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#1426866 --- 11/24/13 06:57 PM
Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans
[Re: Timbo]
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Senior Member
Registered: 01/19/03
Posts: 5586
Loc: Greeneville, TN
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It is you that want the NA isolated, segregated and above the law. Most people recognize your use of pseudo-science, cherry picking of facts and clear intent to eliminate Native American sovereignty while demanding your own exclusive sovereignty as you just implied above. Exclusive this: http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.co...od-whole-152358 When should tribal sovereignty for all trump the sovereignty of one tribe? That's a question many in Indian country are pondering as the U.S. Supreme Court sets its sight on a case that could trump tribal sovereign immunity and off-reservation gaming for all tribes. Indian country beyond Bay Mills has found itself in a difficult position. The easiest way to make the larger gaming and immunity problems go away would be for Bay Mills to waive its immunity, let Michigan sue it, and then let lower courts decide the immunity issue and/or the legality of the casino. Tribes, lobbyists and Indian legal experts have implored Bay Mills to do something – anything – to keep the case away from this clutch of justices. “Stay away from the Supreme Court!” John Echohawk, director of NARF, and Jefferson Keel, former president of the NCAI, said in a joint commentary released in early September—yes, even if that means waiving sovereign legal immunity, the legal doctrine that prevents a sovereign tribe from being sued without the sovereign tribe's consent and one of the major tenets of tribal sovereignty. [Note: That's what OIN did in the OIN Foreclosure case because they knew they were going to lose and if they lost, tribes everywhere would lose their sovereign immunity. The sovereign immunity defense was a fluke established by SCOTUS as Common Law. It’s based on the federal trust relationship and without the federal sovereign, which is what the tribal sovereignty depends on as an incompetent ward, then tribes have no real sovereignty. That’s why their lawsuits go nowhere unless the feds join with them. I.e.: Cayuga land claim, Onondaga land claim, . . . Hopefully the Cayuga are as arrogant as you are and refuse to drop their sovereign immunity in their Foreclosure case. Then say adieu to the tribal sovereignty facade and YOUR racist claim to their "entitlements". ] Nobody owes you a darn thing. So stop your crybaby whining and get over it.
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#1427057 --- 11/26/13 04:36 AM
Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans
[Re: VM Smith]
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Silver Member
Registered: 07/18/12
Posts: 14706
Loc: CNY
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Riiight... because Conservatives have such a stellar reputation and spotless historical record of supporting "Equality Under the Law". Ah, yes...the historical record. Educate yourself on the aggregated percentages, aye and nay, by party, on this hugely important part of that record. If you can put aside your feelings long enough to actually look at facts, that is: http://curricublog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/1964_cr_n-s.pdf Try educating yourself. The links I posted previously have some insight on the subject will put to rest some of your preconceived notions about party support of equal rights during the sixties. Another point you may want to keep in mind is that the argument you're attempting to assert, happened a half century ago and most everything about party politics since then has no bearing on them today. To suggest that conservative political history over the past 50 years is not replete with discrimination in ways that dwarf similar actions by liberal politics, is obscenely false. Facts of the kind you provided are meaningless without context.
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