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#1422589 --- 10/18/13 03:08 PM Native Americans sharing with all Americans
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Laker,
Thanks for sharing. I can not speak for all Native Americans, but I love seeing Indian names on Sports Teams. In Syracuse NY the SU team was called the Orange Men. Beautiful fierce Icon. Some non-Indians caused it to be changed. Just like Hitler, inversion of the true nature of a situation was his game plan. He brought death and hate to any ear that listened.

BTW, did you know you can turn off the hate talkers on this forum. I have decided to "turn off" Rich-UCE starting Sunday. He brings nothing to the table but hate talk. My ears and eyes no long have to tolerant him.

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#1423647 --- 10/25/13 03:19 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: HeadlessHorseman]
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Go Rich-UCE. Keep giving us the truth.
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#1423658 --- 10/25/13 04:02 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: HeadlessHorseman]
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HeadlessHorseman,

Are you an American citizen? Do you think you are entitled to pay less taxes than the rest of us? Why in the world would that be? Black people came here as slaves in chains and they don't get a tax break because of that. Lets all be
Americans and pay the same taxes and obey the same laws and join together as one nation, not a bunch of little sovereign nations that could eventually destroy the USA. What about the many people that are half Indian, 1/4 Indian, etc? Get over it and join the greatest nation on earth.
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#1423750 --- 10/26/13 11:19 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: HeadlessHorseman]
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I have decided to "turn off" Rich-UCE starting Sunday.


You seem to have implied that you were going to put him on "ignore". Why tell us? Is some action required on our part? Is that why you were kind enough to give the advance notice? If so, thanks, but what's the action?

BTW, please put me on ignore, too, if you haven't already done so. That way, your tender sensibilities cannot be bruised by anything I might say in the future.

I'm not saying that I ever will say anything, mind you, and on some days, I don't say anything at all; I just observe with rapt interest. You know...sort of like turning over rocks at the beach, to see what's underneath.

But surely, we can't be too careful when we're dealing with feelings. Why, only last year 43 Forons died, just because some other poster(s) wounded their egos by stating contrary opinions!

They were all suicides, unfortunately...I think they may have all been trying to make a big public "statement". But hey...stuff happens, and we move on. Cheerfully, and with hope that someday we'll all be equal before the law. I'm not optimistic, understand, as long as the law is administered inflicted by some (I don't blame all, certainly) other people, with their various personal and/or special interests, but it never hurts to have hope.
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#1423753 --- 10/26/13 11:40 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: VM Smith]
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I noticed that HeadlessHorseman only posted twice, both on 10/18/13. I think he must of put everybody on ignore.
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#1423754 --- 10/26/13 11:47 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: kyle585]
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#1423782 --- 10/26/13 02:15 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Go Rich-UCE. Keep giving us the truth.
Some people just do not like the truth and chose to stick their head in the sand. But people opposing equality under the law have their own agenda.

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#1425795 --- 11/13/13 12:43 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Go Rich-UCE. Keep giving us the truth.
Some people just do not like the truth and chose to stick their head in the sand. But people opposing equality under the law have their own agenda.

If by "agenda" you mean refusing to buy into your thinly disguised anti-Indian racism, then of course you are correct.

Hitler persecuted an entire racial group while dressing-up his true intentions under the guise of "equality under the law", as well.
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#1425821 --- 11/13/13 10:25 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Go Rich-UCE. Keep giving us the truth.
Some people just do not like the truth and chose to stick their head in the sand. But people opposing equality under the law have their own agenda.
If by "agenda" you mean refusing to buy into your thinly disguised anti-Indian racism, then of course you are correct.

Hitler persecuted an entire racial group while dressing-up his true intentions under the guise of "equality under the law", as well.
So anybody that wants equality under the law for everyone is a racist? How ridiculous.
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#1425836 --- 11/13/13 01:36 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Go Rich-UCE. Keep giving us the truth.
Some people just do not like the truth and chose to stick their head in the sand. But people opposing equality under the law have their own agenda.
If by "agenda" you mean refusing to buy into your thinly disguised anti-Indian racism, then of course you are correct.

Hitler persecuted an entire racial group while dressing-up his true intentions under the guise of "equality under the law", as well.
So anybody that wants equality under the law for everyone is a racist? How ridiculous.


Ridiculous? Only if the white-laced Doc Marten's fit; as they do in THIS case Kyle. UCE/Seneca Cayuga Chapter has it's philosophical roots in Wisner Kinne's virulent anti-Indian Seneca County Liberation Organization.

Check out the UCE's piece-of-work Vickers as he tripped over his trigger-fingered tongue:

Oneidas accuse UCE head of racism
David Vickers defends "these people can't be shot" comment on radio show.


Friday, December 08, 2006
By Peter Lyman
Staff writer

The Oneida Indian Nation has accused Upstate Citizens for Equality President David Vickers of stirring racial hatred with comments he made this week on a Syracuse radio show.

Vickers and WSYR talk show host Jim Reith were discussing the U.S. Supreme Court's refusal to hear an appeal of a state court ruling that the Oneidas' Turning Stone casino is operating illegally. UCE opposes land claims and American Indian sovereignty.

"We'll have to follow the legal channels," Vickers said. "We live in a modern society. These people can't be shot, so we have to try to do what we can legally."

Reith interrupted, "Not that you would want them shot."

"No, of course not," Vickers said. "But the kind of lawlessness that's taking place is absurd, and previous generations would not have tolerated their leadership doing things like this."

A statement Thursday from the Oneidas said, "Vickers is seeding the language of racial hatred throughout Upstate New York and stirring up threats of violence. . . . (UCE's) words show they intend harm, and their actions threaten Indian people."

Vickers said Thursday evening he was "making a comparison to how we do behave in a civilized society. . . . We seek to have laws enforced. That's all."

Contending the casino is illegal, Vickers said, "We're not anti-Indian; we're pro-equality."

(c) 2006 The Post-Standard. Used with permission.



Pro-equality? BS. It's about UEC's racist anti-Indian sovereignty stance:

"Nationally, both the National Congress of American Indians and the United South and Eastern Tribes, have challenged Potocki's organization, UCE, as anti-Indian and as a hate group. UCE voices strongly deny the hate label and point to their inclusion of a few distressed and confused Indian individuals among their supporters. But whether expressed racially or legalistically or politically, the direct and completely hostile attack by groups such as UCE on the economic and political base of Indian tribes is truly impossible to ignore. Gone is the obvious snarl of yesteryear; and no one wants to be too quick with accusations of racism, but is perhaps now the noose simply hiding behind a smile of civility and the claim of "nothing personal?" Ever since David Duke replaced his white robes for the legitimate veneer of suit and tie, organizations taking aim at peoples of color have become increasingly sophisticated. They are now much more cleverly attuned to image and language.

It may not be racist in the sense of a KKK mob burning your house and lynching your men, but the clear outright call for the eradication of all the rights your ancestors retained for you, of everything that gives you identity and legal recognition, everything that gives your children and future generations an opportunity at economic justice in America, this is clearly a hostile intention, directed specifically at the destruction of Indian governments and, therefore, at the very existence of our peoples."



Peel back it's veneer; UCE reveals itself as nothing but another Euro-centric hate group poisoning the waters.

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#1425987 --- 11/14/13 08:30 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Teonan]
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Usually the biggest racists are the ones that scream racism the most. Right Teonan?

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#1426015 --- 11/15/13 08:22 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Teonan]
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Perhaps Timbo can enlighten us as to Hitler promoting equality under the law. But I highly doubt that Timbo has ANY facts.

Prior to 1938, when Hitler's new restrictions were put in place, the earlier Weimar Republic government had already enacted gun registration. "The laws adopted by the Weimar Republic intended to disarm Nazis and Communists were sufficiently discretionary that the Nazis managed to use them against their enemies once they were in power," says Clayton Cramer, author of the book Firing Back, as told to the website The Straight Dope. So what Hitler essentially did was strengthen existing German law (which was aimed primarily at preventing Jews from being armed).

And that is the all-important difference. Bernard E. Harcourt, writing for the University of Chicago Law School and Political Science Department, notes:

If you read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation – as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation – several conclusions become clear. First, with regard to possession and carrying of firearms, the Nazi regime relaxed the gun laws that were in place in Germany at the time the Nazis seized power. Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms.

The point was, Hitler had it in for the Jews, so he first disarmed them before carrying out his murderous campaign against them. And, unable to resist, millions died.

Perhaps Timbo or Teonan can explain how applying laws differently to different races is not racist or un-American. Of course they can't without looking like the fools that they are because applying laws differently to different races is racist.

What Wisner Kinney did, through the SCLO, was nix the deal with the Seneca Army Depot giving the Cayuga tribe a SEVENTH FINAL settlement by getting our government representative in congress to represent us. He was a Naval officer and had a PhD through Harvard. I'd say that's a mite bit more than King Ray who merely attended Harvard to get an idea how to become a better scam artist. Wisner was a leader and motivator who promoted equality under the law. He was obviously very good at it because those who promote special privileges based on race and those who support equality under the law both remember him well.

Wisner spoke at our first rally. But we were unaware of the SCLO when the Seneca-Cayuga UCE chapter formed. The Seneca-Cayuga chapter of UCE voted to change from NYSCER to become a chapter of UCE through the Oneida UCE in January 1999. Thanks to the SCLO and Wisner we hadn't lost before we started.

It's just as well no one knows your names so you don't feel the need to hide when you're in public.

The Oneida King of Racism itself crying racism is all he has to obscure his own actions of bulldozing the homes and kidnapping the kids of the Oneida tribal members who oppose him. He is neither the tribal government or even an Oneida. King Ray is just a mob boss beneficiary of the Warrior Society. For the wolf to cry wolf is the biggest joke of all. It's always about him even though none of it's about him or even the Indians.

Dave Vicker's comment was in reference to the politicians who refused to enforce the law. Our lawsuit was against the State, not the Indians. We won in court against the State, not the Indians. The Governor refused to enforce the law after he lost. The reference to not shooting them and following legal channels was in reference to the politicians, not the Indians.

But King Ray jumped on it and Dave didn't clarify explicitly after the fact because the whole thing was absurd. We had won in court and King Ray had bought the Governor. It was the Governor's job to enforce the law. Ray's inference to shooting Indians was preposterous.


I.e.: "Reith interrupted, 'Not that you would want them shot.'"

"No, of course not," Vickers said. "But the kind of lawlessness that's taking place is absurd, and previous generations would not have tolerated THEIR LEADERSHIP doing things like this."

Goooollllieeee Mr. Toeman, ya think UCE President Dave Vicker's reference to "their leadership" referred to Indians?

As for the NCA and USET's label, that was just another rubber stamp introduced by King Ray's cronies who were USET officers that year. And the NCA would oppose anyone who had successfully enlightened politicians and courts to repeatedly defeat scams to perpetuate their agenda of special rights for one race of Americans.

The only thing racist and un-American is your own diatribe.

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#1426094 --- 11/16/13 03:31 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: RJFDdriver]
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Originally Posted By: RJFDdriver
Usually the biggest racists are the ones that scream racism the most. Right Teonan?

Do you have any evidence to support that hypothesis, or is that statement just another knee-jerk defense of racism to draw attention away from the ugly facts?

That's NOT a rhetorical question. Please feel free to take a stab at explaining away the obvious ludicrousness of your assertion.
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#1426095 --- 11/16/13 04:06 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Perhaps Timbo can enlighten us as to Hitler promoting equality under the law. But I highly doubt that Timbo has ANY facts.

Prior to 1938, when Hitler's new restrictions were put in place, the earlier Weimar Republic government had already enacted gun registration. "The laws adopted by the Weimar Republic intended to disarm Nazis and Communists were sufficiently discretionary that the Nazis managed to use them against their enemies once they were in power," says Clayton Cramer, author of the book Firing Back, as told to the website The Straight Dope. So what Hitler essentially did was strengthen existing German law (which was aimed primarily at preventing Jews from being armed).

And that is the all-important difference. Bernard E. Harcourt, writing for the University of Chicago Law School and Political Science Department, notes:

If you read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation – as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation – several conclusions become clear. First, with regard to possession and carrying of firearms, the Nazi regime relaxed the gun laws that were in place in Germany at the time the Nazis seized power. Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms.

The point was, Hitler had it in for the Jews, so he first disarmed them before carrying out his murderous campaign against them. And, unable to resist, millions died.


Perhaps Timbo or Teonan can explain how applying laws differently to different races is not racist or un-American. Of course they can't without looking like the fools that they are because applying laws differently to different races is racist.

What Wisner Kinney did, through the SCLO, was nix the deal with the Seneca Army Depot giving the Cayuga tribe a SEVENTH FINAL settlement by getting our government representative in congress to represent us. He was a Naval officer and had a PhD through Harvard. I'd say that's a mite bit more than King Ray who merely attended Harvard to get an idea how to become a better scam artist. Wisner was a leader and motivator who promoted equality under the law. He was obviously very good at it because those who promote special privileges based on race and those who support equality under the law both remember him well.

Wisner spoke at our first rally. But we were unaware of the SCLO when the Seneca-Cayuga UCE chapter formed. The Seneca-Cayuga chapter of UCE voted to change from NYSCER to become a chapter of UCE through the Oneida UCE in January 1999. Thanks to the SCLO and Wisner we hadn't lost before we started.

It's just as well no one knows your names so you don't feel the need to hide when you're in public.

The Oneida King of Racism itself crying racism is all he has to obscure his own actions of bulldozing the homes and kidnapping the kids of the Oneida tribal members who oppose him. He is neither the tribal government or even an Oneida. King Ray is just a mob boss beneficiary of the Warrior Society. For the wolf to cry wolf is the biggest joke of all. It's always about him even though none of it's about him or even the Indians.

Dave Vicker's comment was in reference to the politicians who refused to enforce the law. Our lawsuit was against the State, not the Indians. We won in court against the State, not the Indians. The Governor refused to enforce the law after he lost. The reference to not shooting them and following legal channels was in reference to the politicians, not the Indians.

But King Ray jumped on it and Dave didn't clarify explicitly after the fact because the whole thing was absurd. We had won in court and King Ray had bought the Governor. It was the Governor's job to enforce the law. Ray's inference to shooting Indians was preposterous.


I.e.: "Reith interrupted, 'Not that you would want them shot.'"

"No, of course not," Vickers said. "But the kind of lawlessness that's taking place is absurd, and previous generations would not have tolerated THEIR LEADERSHIP doing things like this."

Goooollllieeee Mr. Toeman, ya think UCE President Dave Vicker's reference to "their leadership" referred to Indians?

As for the NCA and USET's label, that was just another rubber stamp introduced by King Ray's cronies who were USET officers that year. And the NCA would oppose anyone who had successfully enlightened politicians and courts to repeatedly defeat scams to perpetuate their agenda of special rights for one race of Americans.

The only thing racist and un-American is your own diatribe.

Not nearly as racist as the Venom spewing filth that you lifted straight from Alex Jones' INFOWARS Ultra-Rightist Bureau of Propaganda and Conspiracy Mindspeak.

http://www.infowars.com/yes-hitler-reall...r-gas-chambers/

Then there are the thinly veiled illicitations by Bernard E. Harcourt couching his hidden agenda to deregulated business laws, typical of the Chicago School of Economics adjunct education model.

Nothing but a steaming heap of neo-corporatist horse hockey, loosely wrapped in warm, fuzzy new-agey academic gobbledygook.

It's also a shame that NONE of this has to do with the thread topic nor does that tired old gun-rights historical argument address the fact that Hitler most CERTAINLY DID portray the Germanic Arians as the victims of racial subjugation and discrimination by the "Jewish Elite".
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#1426156 --- 11/16/13 11:04 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Timbo]
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Sure Timbo. No proof to your claim of Hitler promoting equality under the law so your only rebuttal is an attack on a source without proving them wrong. Regardless, enforcing the same laws differently based on race is racist. That's what you promote while claiming those promoting equality under the law regardless of race are racist. If it looks like a duck . . . .

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#1426216 --- 11/18/13 04:14 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Sure Timbo. No proof to your claim of Hitler promoting equality under the law so your only rebuttal is an attack on a source without proving them wrong. Regardless, enforcing the same laws differently based on race is racist. That's what you promote while claiming those promoting equality under the law regardless of race are racist. If it looks like a duck . . . .

Nonsense. I claim no such thing.

I'm claiming that you and UCE, CERA/CERF, et al, use the idiom of "equality under the law" as a subterfuge in order to promote your true motives, of de-empowerment of Native Americans as a way to serve the interests of racists, corporatists, commercial developers and other various parties who stand to benefit the most by denying the sovereign rights of those who's land was previously taken from them by theft, manipulation, murder, war, genocide and most currently, legal chicanery.

Hitler repeatedly accused Jews of manipulating the system to lord control over the world's wealth and policies, thereby denying the "rightful Arian masters", their ascendancy over the rest of the world.

Please, feel free to continuing to deny the well-understood and indisputable historical record, so that you may continue to expose your true and nearly transparent racist efforts. If that fails, just point everyone in the direction of the CERF/CERA website and I'm sure that the sugar-coated, cryptic racism contained within will soon become crystal clear to anyone with eyes and a brainstem... and actually, eyes are optional.
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#1426217 --- 11/18/13 04:24 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: HeadlessHorseman]
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Originally Posted By: HeadlessHorseman
Laker,
Thanks for sharing. I can not speak for all Native Americans, but I love seeing Indian names on Sports Teams. In Syracuse NY the SU team was called the Orange Men. Beautiful fierce Icon. Some non-Indians caused it to be changed. Just like Hitler, inversion of the true nature of a situation was his game plan. He brought death and hate to any ear that listened.

BTW, did you know you can turn off the hate talkers on this forum. I have decided to "turn off" Rich-UCE starting Sunday. He brings nothing to the table but hate talk. My ears and eyes no long have to tolerant him.

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"If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out!" -Mathew 5:29-30
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#1426227 --- 11/18/13 09:09 AM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Regardless, enforcing the same laws differently based on race is racist.
Absolutely. Keep up the good work Rich.
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#1426236 --- 11/18/13 02:05 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Sure Timbo. No proof to your claim of Hitler promoting equality under the law so your only rebuttal is an attack on a source without proving them wrong. Regardless, enforcing the same laws differently based on race is racist. That's what you promote while claiming those promoting equality under the law regardless of race are racist. If it looks like a duck . . . .

Nonsense. I claim no such thing.

I'm claiming that you and UCE, CERA/CERF, et al, use the idiom of "equality under the law" as a subterfuge in order to promote your true motives, of de-empowerment of Native Americans as a way to serve the interests of racists, corporatists, commercial developers and other various parties who stand to benefit the most by denying the sovereign rights of those who's land was previously taken from them by theft, manipulation, murder, war, genocide and most currently, legal chicanery.

Hitler repeatedly accused Jews of manipulating the system to lord control over the world's wealth and policies, thereby denying the "rightful Arian masters", their ascendancy over the rest of the world.

Please, feel free to continuing to deny the well-understood and indisputable historical record, so that you may continue to expose your true and nearly transparent racist efforts. If that fails, just point everyone in the direction of the CERF/CERA website and I'm sure that the sugar-coated, cryptic racism contained within will soon become crystal clear to anyone with eyes and a brainstem... and actually, eyes are optional.

The de-empowerment of Native Americans??? And your ASSUMPTION that Native Americans are "EMPOWERED" is based on what? That they were here first? So your ASSUMPTION that they are "empowered" resulting in the same laws being applied differently to different races is not racist? You deny claiming just that and then argue why it should be so. Your denial is facetious and bogus. You're a duck.

Your generalizations of theft, manipulation, murder, war, genocide, and most currently legal chicanery do not apply to tribes in NYS unless you are referring to the tribal wars amongst themselves and the tribes they stole the lands from and committed genocide on. Legal chicanery is an interesting one though being it is the tribes themselves which have promoted such through millions of whitewashed taxpayer dollars into lobbying and campaign funds, likely to include brown paper bags of bribery.

The interests of racists, corporatists, commercial developers and other various parties who stand to benefit the most are those using the system to operate on tribal lands where the laws based on race apply differently.

The only thing crystal clear is that you're in self denial that you are the racist.

It's unfortunate that you did not learn anything from the CERA/CERF website. CERF/CERA does not tolerate racial prejudice of any kind. We don't knowingly associate with anyone who discriminates against people based on race. CERF/CERA supports and defends the constitutional rights of Indians and non-Indians. Our mission is to change federal Indian policies that restrict or threaten the individual rights of Indians and non-Indians living on or near Indian reservations.

Our position is critical of discriminatory federal policies and laws that deny Indian reservation residents their Constitutional rights. It is our intent to raise awareness and debate over these federal policies, regulations and the poorly understood body of "Indian Law". Our criticism of these federal policies and laws should not be construed as prejudice against Indian people or culture.

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#1426239 --- 11/18/13 03:33 PM Re: Native Americans sharing with all Americans [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Great post Rich. You put so much time and effort into this it is unbelievable.
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