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#1415623 --- 09/03/13 11:14 AM Judge attacked outside court house
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http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=941784

WATERLOO -- CNY Central has confirmed that Waterloo Village Judge Roger W. Barto has been hospitalized since Friday after being attacked outside the Village Hall.


According Waterloo Judge Dean Mattoon, Barto was attacked as he was locking up the building at 10:00 p.m. Friday night.


Mattoon says Barto had just completed an arraignment, but he does not feel the assault was related to the arraignment.


Mattoon says Judge Barto was struck on the head from behind with the lid of a toilet tank that had been placed outside the building during renovations. Mattoon says Barto was also choked by his assailant.


Judge Barto was taken to Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester where he is currently listed in guarded condition.


The Waterloo Police Department is working with the New York State Police on the investigation. Mattoon says he believes the Seneca County District Attorney's Office is also involved.


Mattoon says that to his knowledge there have been no arrests.

The Waterloo Police Department would neither confirm nor deny the incident.

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#1415637 --- 09/03/13 12:05 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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What is wrong with people?

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#1415639 --- 09/03/13 12:14 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Ethel]
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What! The Waterloo Police Department would neither confirm nor deny the incident. It did or did not happen. What kind of reply is that?
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#1415641 --- 09/03/13 12:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: strangeone]
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It did happen and authority will not comment on and ongoing investigation.

The crazies are coming out of the woodwork.

The Forums will get lots of views with this one as the locals are paranoid as it is.

I hope Roger gets well soon and can describe the men who did this.

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#1415643 --- 09/03/13 12:52 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: seneca dad22]
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Being knocked out one doesn't remember to much of the incident
that took place. Roger is a very strong person and will be back home soon.
God Bless
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#1415644 --- 09/03/13 01:13 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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surprised most judges don't keep a pair of friends with them ........ Smith & Wesson.

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#1415645 --- 09/03/13 01:20 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Bill Gabrial]
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My guess is he was caught totally off guard and wouldn't have had time to enlist the help of Smith & Wesson anyway.

Wishing him a speedy, full recovery and hope the authorities catch these crazy, scumbags quickly.
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#1415646 --- 09/03/13 01:22 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: wallflower]
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#1415647 --- 09/03/13 01:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Festus]
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Village hall on Main St or Town hall on Virginia St?

I also hope that they catch the sleeze bags that did this.

Speedy recovery Roger.

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#1415660 --- 09/03/13 02:45 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Bill Gabrial]
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Originally Posted By: Bill Gabrial
surprised most judges don't keep a pair of friends with them ........ Smith & Wesson.

Maybe, but Smitty & Wesson can't really help you when someone sneaks up from behind and knocks you out.
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#1415673 --- 09/03/13 03:48 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Josephus]
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How could this have happened right next door to a police station?

Oh that's the right, the doors are always locked and there is never anyone there! Our tax dollars at work.

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#1415694 --- 09/03/13 05:51 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Yeah an unlocked door to the police department would have prevented this. DERRR!
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#1415695 --- 09/03/13 05:54 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Hard Corps]
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Maybe now the mayor will give the police department the resources it needs.
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#1415699 --- 09/03/13 06:00 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Hard Corps]
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Hind sight is always 20 / 20; unfortunately. This a problem and it needs to be solved and people protected.

Keep positive thoughts for Judge Barto and in our prayers.

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#1415709 --- 09/03/13 07:20 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: surelyhonest]
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#1415718 --- 09/03/13 08:14 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Hard Corps]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Corps
Yeah an unlocked door to the police department would have prevented this. DERRR!








You really can't figure this one out Joe Bob? Think REAAAALLLLYYY hard now. Maybe if the town rent a cops ever actually worked over night and not 9-5 they would have been there to stop this. We have a village police department that stands locked and deserted most of the time. What kind of police department is that?

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#1415720 --- 09/03/13 08:23 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Village hall on Main St or Town hall on Virginia St?

I also hope that they catch the sleeze bags that did this.

Speedy recovery Roger.


Main St right next to the WPD west side
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#1415722 --- 09/03/13 08:24 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Hard Corps]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Corps
Maybe now the mayor will give the police department the resources it needs.


A good trained K-9 would be my answer.
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#1415732 --- 09/03/13 10:10 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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No Security - really?

Nice job Mayor Young. Great vision and concern for your employees.
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#1415746 --- 09/04/13 04:06 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Sarcassm Esq
No Security - really?

Nice job Mayor Young. Great vision and concern for your employees.


I must agree on that one.
I pray the law gets them before a family member does. Roger comes from a huge family. Never know who is related to whom these days. "Hell is coming"
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#1415750 --- 09/04/13 05:42 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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Probably some crack head that is trying to justify their bad behavior by getting back at the judge who sent them upstate for their bad behavior. Sad to see Waterloo turning into Boyz from the Hood.
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#1415875 --- 09/05/13 12:47 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: village news
Mr RigaMortis:

Your response to my input would be most helpful.

My input: Look at the docket and check-out cases "to be heard" by the judge in the next week or so. And also see if any known associates have any prior convections with Judge Barto.

I am thinking of a drug related trial coming up.

village news


I missed it again. I did not see any reply from you until this post.
Ref: just where are you coming from? How about a person or persona that might of just got out of jail? This whole thing is crazy. But again this is Seneca county. May have been more than one person again who knows? Most likely was wearing gloves or they could of had a set of prints if they already don't. JMO
The judge just might remember what he may have seen?
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#1415937 --- 09/05/13 10:47 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Hard Corps]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Corps
Maybe now the mayor will give the police department the resources it needs.




He is to busy posing for photographs and planning the next memorial day parade

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#1415978 --- 09/05/13 12:45 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Hard Corps]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Corps
Maybe now the mayor will give the police department the resources it needs.


and what would that be......more taxes?

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#1416036 --- 09/06/13 05:32 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Where can I go to see the docket? That's usually the case in these situations. Same thing happened in Seneca Falls, that NYCC kid burnt down the court house over a lousy DWI, or something along those lines. My input is right along with your's. Has to be someone who is recently released and pissed off at the world for his wrong doing, or someone trying to not see upstate in an up coming trial.
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#1416038 --- 09/06/13 05:47 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: RigaMortis]
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Any update on Roger?
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#1416170 --- 09/07/13 10:47 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: strangeone]
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And people wonder why we carry our guns

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#1416197 --- 09/07/13 02:29 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dave Daeffler]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Daeffler
And people wonder why we carry our guns







A "gun" does nothing when someone comes up and hits you from behind.

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#1416210 --- 09/07/13 04:12 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hocks N Rice
Originally Posted By: Dave Daeffler
And people wonder why we carry our guns







A "gun" does nothing when someone comes up and hits you from behind.


But if you hear or see him coming, or if he hits, but doesn't incapacitate, you, or if he doesn't attack from behind, it can do something. I don't know if Barto was carrying a gun this time; I'll bet he will be, next time.
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#1416222 --- 09/07/13 07:02 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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Just like Barto heard and saw him coming this time right? I support the right to bear arms, but this idea that a firearm is the answer to everything is pretty ridiculous. Plenty of people are hurt or killed while carrying. There are plenty of situations where you just can't produce your piece fast enough or where someone is ill-trained to actually use it.

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#1416231 --- 09/07/13 08:11 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hocks N Rice
There are plenty of situations where you just can't produce your piece fast enough or where someone is ill-trained to actually use it.


I heard that about you from your past GF's
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#1416265 --- 09/07/13 11:51 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
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HURRRRRRR what an intelligent joke. How's high school treating you? Get a life.

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#1416715 --- 09/10/13 10:34 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Let me repeat it again a good trained K-9 would be my answer
and by my side 24/7. Ever get attacked by one? I have and never seen it coming and it does hurt like hell.
The late Bill K and his wife Ethel when they lived in the big A-frame house use to have a pair that wouldn't let you onto their property with out real fear of being ripped apart. This I also know for a fact. Now this is a big maybe if he still had them he might still be with us.
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#1416993 --- 09/12/13 11:38 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Just like Barto heard and saw him coming this time right?


No, that's obviously wrong. From what we know, Barto didn't hear and see him coming, in time.

I said "if". Sometimes, one does hear someone coming from behind. In those cases, a gun is a handy thing to have. Even if one doesn't hear the assailant before the assault, one still may have a chance to use it.

Let me say it so you can understand: IF I hear someone coming from behind, and if he intends to do me harm, it's more likely to be a better outcome for me if I am armed. It's quite possible that there will be a better outcome for me even if I don't hear him coming.

Remember that Barto still presented enough of a threat to the asailant, after he had been hit, that the assailant thought it necessary to choke him, which he might not have been able to do if he'd been shot.

You're saying that, since Barto may not have heard the assailant coming, then no one should carry a gun in an attempt to deal with such an assault. That's just plain stupid.
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#1416995 --- 09/12/13 11:46 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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It's just as likely that the assailant could have taken the victim's weapon and killed him with it. It would have been better if the Trooper had hung around a few more minutes.
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#1417001 --- 09/12/13 12:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Festus]
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Originally Posted By: Festus
It's just as likely that the assailant could have taken the victim's weapon and killed him with it.

Very true and that's the part people never think about.
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#1417039 --- 09/12/13 05:08 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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I can't figure out how his attacker knew he was there. It happened at 10 PM Friday night. It seems to me that the only ones that would know he was there would have been His Family, the Police or someone close to the person he arraigned.

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#1417047 --- 09/12/13 05:46 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Oldgzr]
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Originally Posted By: Oldgzr
I can't figure out how his attacker knew he was there. It happened at 10 PM Friday night. It seems to me that the only ones that would know he was there would have been His Family, the Police or someone close to the person he arraigned.

Well... the assailant probably knew he was holding court that day. My guess would be that the assailant probably knew the judge's routine and perhaps knew that he might have been in the habit of staying at work late... and that the assailant was very, very patient.
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#1417048 --- 09/12/13 05:51 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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Let me repeat it again a good trained K-9 would be my answer
and by my side 24/7. Ever get attacked by one? I have and never seen it coming and it does hurt like hell.
The late Bill K and his wife Ethel when they lived in the big A-frame house use to have a pair that wouldn't let you onto their property with out real fear of being ripped apart. This I also know for a fact. Now this is a big maybe if he still had them he might still be with us.

I agree... but like with a firearm, you can't always take your dog everywhere you go. In fact, you can probably be parted with your dog much easier than with you would be with your firearm. And when it comes to courts houses, I don't think you can bring either with you. I'll bet that rule applies to judges as well as to anyone else.
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#1417056 --- 09/12/13 06:25 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house *DELETED* [Re: Josephus]
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#1417062 --- 09/12/13 07:27 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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Might be better having the K9 sitting on top of the judges desk so the judge can confer with the K9 "Smell any drugs on this one boy". \:\)
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#1417063 --- 09/12/13 07:35 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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I'm really not sure at all about how things work in the court house. The judge might be able to bring his dog in, but I'm not sure about anyone else who works in the court house. I was just sort of making a point. For example, you might be able to carry a weapon into a store or a restaurant (if licensed to carry), but your dog is much more likely to be stopped at the door... especially in restaurants. In this country, anyway. I should clarify that a service dog is always an exception to these situations.
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#1417071 --- 09/12/13 07:50 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Josephus]
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Yes, and there are service dogs and therapy dogs. Sadly, therapy dogs do not have the same access as service dogs in all places.

http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm


Edited by twocats (09/12/13 07:51 PM)
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#1417373 --- 09/15/13 04:28 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Festus]
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It's just as likely that the assailant could have taken the victim's weapon and killed him with it.


That's a hypothetical, and since it's always a possibility, every reasonable person always thinks about it. It's also a distinct possibility that someone will immediately be killed by being hit on the head with a tank lid, which is pretty hard and heavy, if it's the typical ceramic kind.

However, that's all irrelevant to my POV, which is that it's always better to have the availability of an adequate means of self defense. Sometimes one doesn't get a chance to use it, but sometimes, one does.

If it's indeed "just as likely", then hey...I'd want that 50% chance.

And as long as we're entertaining possibiities, suppose the trooper had stuck around, and neither man had heard the assailant, and the assailant had managed to kill or completely disable the trooper, with the lid, before having time to start in on Barto. That also would have been a good time for Barto to have had a gun.

There's even a very good chance that he may not have had to fire it; merely looking down the barrel of one has been known to alter some people's plans.
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#1417382 --- 09/15/13 04:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Sallie]
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Might be better having the K9 sitting on top of the judges desk so the judge can confer with the K9 "Smell any drugs on this one boy". \:\)








Make that alcohol included so the dog can smell it on your breath.

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#1417383 --- 09/15/13 04:56 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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You really can't figure this one out Joe Bob? Think REAAAALLLLYYY hard now. Maybe if the town rent a cops ever actually worked over night and not 9-5 they would have been there to stop this. We have a village police department that stands locked and deserted most of the time. What kind of police department is that?


Ok I thought about a couple of your idiotic ramblings and I have come up with a few things. Rent a cops are security guards not the cops themselves. The police department is staffed 24/7. The doors are kept locked for security reasons. I'm sure you don't keep your doors unlocked when you are not there. The police department is understaffed. The mayor won't allow the chief to hire people. One officer recently retired and one went to the state police. Two full time officers are gone and not replaced. You can't keep an officer inside their building 24/7 when you have as much low income places like Elizabeth Crossing that takes a majority of their time.

When your momma told you 'don't get smart' she didn't mean literally.
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#1417384 --- 09/15/13 05:04 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Corps
Maybe now the mayor will give the police department the resources it needs.


and what would that be......more taxes?


The police department runs on a budget covered by taxes. 2 full time officers recently left and 1 part time officer just left and were not replaced. Did your taxes go down? The mayor wants the chief to cut a shift that had an officer overlapping 2 shifts during peak busy times on weekends. The mayor should support the police chief more and spend less time wanting to be police chief which is exactly what ole Teddy wants.
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#1417548 --- 09/16/13 08:25 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr117]
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Waterloo deserves Ted Young.

He is the best of what Waterloo has to offer - HA!
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#1430338 --- 12/23/13 02:17 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
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Wow. Unbelievable.

Breaking news.

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12/23/13 @ 2:34 pm

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On August 31, 2013, Acting Waterloo Village Justice Roger Barto claimed that he was assaulted by two persons as he exited the Village Municipal building after conducting a court arraignment. Barto alleged that he was strangled and was struck over the head with a porcelain toilet tank top that had been removed from the building as part of court renovations.

A thorough investigation was conducted by the Village of Waterloo Police Department, the New York State Police, the Seneca County District Attorney’s Office and other State agencies with the assistance of expert medical authorities. As a result of that investigation, it has been determined that there is no credible evidence to substantiate Barto's assault claim.

On September 16, 2013, Barto stopped cooperating with the investigation and his attorney has prohibited the police from questioning his client.
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#1430343 --- 12/23/13 03:12 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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oh no…i smell a lawsuit evaporating into thin air….

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#1430355 --- 12/23/13 04:18 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Sallie]
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Police: No evidence to support assault claim by Waterloo justice

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12/23/13 @ 2:34 pm



On August 31, 2013, Acting Waterloo Village Justice Roger Barto claimed that he was assaulted by two persons as he exited the Village Municipal building after conducting a court arraignment. Barto alleged that he was strangled and was struck over the head with a porcelain toilet tank top that had been removed from the building as part of court renovations.

A thorough investigation was conducted by the Village of Waterloo Police Department, the New York State Police, the Seneca County District Attorney’s Office and other State agencies with the assistance of expert medical authorities. As a result of that investigation, it has been determined that there is no credible evidence to substantiate Barto's assault claim.

On September 16, 2013, Barto stopped cooperating with the investigation and his attorney has prohibited the police from
questioning his client.
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#1430356 --- 12/23/13 04:20 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: polaris]
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Originally Posted By: polaris
oh no…i smell a lawsuit evaporating into thin air….


Silly me. And here I thought it was all about getting the attention. LOL
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#1430381 --- 12/23/13 06:00 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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§ 240.50 Falsely reporting an incident in the third degree.
A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the third
degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to
be false or baseless, he or she:
1. Initiates or circulates a false report or warning of an alleged
occurrence or impending occurrence of a crime, catastrophe or emergency
under circumstances in which it is not unlikely that public alarm or
inconvenience will result; or
2. Reports, by word or action, to an official or quasi-official agency
or organization having the function of dealing with emergencies
involving danger to life or property, an alleged occurrence or impending
occurrence of a catastrophe or emergency which did not in fact occur or
does not in fact exist; or
3. Gratuitously reports to a law enforcement officer or agency (a) the
alleged occurrence of an offense or incident which did not in fact
occur; or (b) an allegedly impending occurrence of an offense or
incident which in fact is not about to occur; or (c) false information
relating to an actual offense or incident or to the alleged implication
of some person therein; or
4. Reports, by word or action, an alleged occurrence or condition of
child abuse or maltreatment or abuse or neglect of a vulnerable person
which did not in fact occur or exist to:
(a) the statewide central register of child abuse and maltreatment, as
defined in title six of article six of the social services law or the
vulnerable persons' central register as defined in article eleven of
such law, or
(b) any person required to report cases of suspected child abuse or
maltreatment pursuant to subdivision one of section four hundred
thirteen of the social services law or to report cases of suspected
abuse or neglect of a vulnerable person pursuant to section four hundred
ninety-one of such law, knowing that the person is required to report
such cases, and with the intent that such an alleged occurrence be
reported to the statewide central register or vulnerable persons'
central register.
Falsely reporting an incident in the third degree is a class A
misdemeanor.

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#1430384 --- 12/23/13 07:27 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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I smell a Breaking Bad episode.....we all have always wondered where he gets his $$$

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#1430388 --- 12/23/13 09:04 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: seneca dad22]
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But still, if he had had a handgun, he could have stopped the perp before it got out of hand.
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#1430398 --- 12/23/13 11:39 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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if it smells like fish:
Two house fires
Fell down the court house steps
Was forced off the road in a car AND a motor cycle
Now this.
It is fish!!
Has me wondering.

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#1430401 --- 12/24/13 09:26 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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I hope before he arms himself with a gun he reads article 35 of the NYS penal law.

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#1430402 --- 12/24/13 11:38 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: polaris]
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Which part are you thinking of, that he should read?
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#1430406 --- 12/24/13 12:20 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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all of it. you can never know too much. 35.10 is a good starting place.


Edited by polaris (12/24/13 12:24 PM)

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#1430407 --- 12/24/13 12:22 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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so someone is saying the judge caused those injuries himself? come on, really?

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#1430411 --- 12/24/13 01:22 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: polaris]
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Originally Posted By: polaris
all of it. you can never know too much. 35.10 is a good starting place.


Okay...if he reads all of it, how would any of it pertain to him? What is he supposed to learn? What, in it, should affect his behavior? What is your implication?
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#1430412 --- 12/24/13 01:29 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Bill Gabrial]
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so someone is saying the judge caused those injuries himself? come on, really?


Barto said he was assaulted, including being choked and hit with a tank lid. The cops and the doctors have determined that there is no credible evidence that he was assaulted. You imply that you don't think he did the injuries to himself, so you must have some other theory. What is it?
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#1430415 --- 12/24/13 02:06 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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VM do you know what article 35 is? It"s pretty self explanatory. If you're going to carry a firearm you should know this section of law. I'm not saying anything will change his behavior…but it will give him the information he needs to know to help influence his decision making process.

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#1430416 --- 12/24/13 02:08 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Sounds like he's in a Fight Club.


Apparently it's only got one member, so it's got to be sort of embarrassing to lose.

It looks like it's been concluded that there was no assault. I wonder what else has been concluded, if anything. And if something else has been concluded, such as false reporting, then why no mention of it? If you or I falsely reported something, would we get a pass?

Possibly nothing illegal occurred, but if so, investigators owe the public a satisfactory explaination. One may yet be coming, but Sept. 16 is getting to be quite a while ago.
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#1430417 --- 12/24/13 02:19 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: polaris]
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VM do you know what article 35 is? It"s pretty self explanatory.


I do, and it is. Since anyone who has a gun should obviously read it, I was wondering why you felt it necessary to point out that he, in particular, should read it. I'm still wondering.

What behavior did he engage in, in your opinion, that reading Art. 35 might change? How does Art. 35 pertain, in the slightest way, to his decision making process? How would it influence him to change what about it? Holy non-sequitur!
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#1430419 --- 12/24/13 03:36 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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Regardless of anyone's reading or application of same, it is a code that applies to all people. There is no separate code that applies to one particular group. It applies to ALL. This entire incident stinks to high heaven and merits further investigation. Especially if you are a judge, police officer, elected official.....ALL who should be held to the highest standards and should be beyond reproach.

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#1430422 --- 12/24/13 04:05 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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vm, I'll try to make this clear, it seemed that several people on this forum thought the judge should arm himself, i was implying that if he chose to arm himself he should know article 35, thats all.

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#1430423 --- 12/24/13 04:33 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: polaris]
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You're right, he obviously should, if he wants to arm himself. I don't know, or say, if he should, or shouldn't, arm himself, but I do know that if he'd been armed, he could have made short work of the perp.
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#1430424 --- 12/24/13 04:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: driver21]
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Originally Posted By: driver21
Regardless of anyone's reading or application of same, it is a code that applies to all people. There is no separate code that applies to one particular group. It applies to ALL. This entire incident stinks to high heaven and merits further investigation. Especially if you are a judge, police officer, elected official.....ALL who should be held to the highest standards and should be beyond reproach.


Of course article 35 applies to everyone, but it has nothing to do with this case, so it of course has nothing to do with how anyone may read it, for the purpose of this thread.
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#1430427 --- 12/24/13 06:12 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
You're right, he obviously should, if he wants to arm himself. I don't know, or say, if he should, or shouldn't, arm himself, but I do know that if he'd been armed, he could have made short work of the perp.


What perp would that be?
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#1430428 --- 12/24/13 06:26 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Or they could have knocked him out with a toilet tank lid, stole his firearm and shot him.

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#1430429 --- 12/24/13 06:52 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
Originally Posted By: Bill Gabrial
so someone is saying the judge caused those injuries himself? come on, really?


Barto said he was assaulted, including being choked and hit with a tank lid. The cops and the doctors have determined that there is no credible evidence that he was assaulted. You imply that you don't think he did the injuries to himself, so you must have some other theory. What is it?


Well some thing is very wrong? Was he not on life support in strong? Damn to do that to yourself has to be a very strong person who needs help .JMO
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#1430433 --- 12/24/13 07:51 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Festus]
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What perp would that be?


Who was there?
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#1430434 --- 12/24/13 08:05 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: young guns]
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Damn to do that to yourself has to be a very strong person who needs help


If he did it, he might need help...it would depend on his reason for doing it. A play for sympathy wouldn't be the only possibility.

We really don't know. He quit cooperating with the investigation on Sept. 16. His lawyer has forbidden the cops to question him. To me, that means charges haven't been filed. Whether they will be, or should be...who knows? At some point, we should have a fuller explaination, from one or more of those involved in the incident, or the investigation, of what has been or will be decided or surmised, and what has been discovered.
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#1430435 --- 12/24/13 08:16 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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What perp would that be?


Who was there?


From the news release, it could be Barto was the only person present.
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#1430438 --- 12/24/13 08:27 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Festus]
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From the news release, it could be Barto was the only person present.


If that's true, and I tend to believe that, based on what the investigators have made public, then you have the answer.

Perp doesn't necessarily refer to a criminal, btw:

per·pe·trate (pűrp-trt)
tr.v. per·pe·trat·ed, per·pe·trat·ing, per·pe·trates
To be responsible for; commit: perpetrate a crime; perpetrate a practical joke.
[Latin perpetrre, perpetrt-, to accomplish : per-, per- + patrre, to bring about
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#1430440 --- 12/24/13 09:32 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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From the news release, it could be Barto was the only person present.


If that's true, and I tend to believe that, based on what the investigators have made public, then you have the answer.

Perp doesn't necessarily refer to a criminal, btw:

per·pe·trate (pűrp-trt)
tr.v. per·pe·trat·ed, per·pe·trat·ing, per·pe·trates
To be responsible for; commit: perpetrate a crime; perpetrate a practical joke.
[Latin perpetrre, perpetrt-, to accomplish : per-, per- + patrre, to bring about


Are you suggesting he could have avoided injury by shooting himself?
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#1430441 --- 12/24/13 09:37 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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To put yourself in to a comma?
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#1430442 --- 12/24/13 11:31 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Festus]
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Are you suggesting he could have avoided injury by shooting himself?


No. I didn't say anything about injury, or avoiding it. I merely suggested that if he'd had a gun, he could have dealt with the one who appears to have been the perp.

The way this conversation is going, I figure you'll ask if I think he should have, if he'd had a gun. That would have been his decision to make. It might have partly depended on how bad the beating was that the perp was giving him. Of course, offing the perp might have made moot the point of inflicting the injuries, if there was a point. wink

This is like Strange Detective Stories, by Kafka. If Kafka didn't write that, he should have.
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#1430443 --- 12/24/13 11:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: young guns]
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Originally Posted By: young guns
To put yourself in to a comma?


If this has anything to do with a comma splicing batman, you should run it by Lusi...it's getting more confusing by the day. wink
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#1430451 --- 12/25/13 03:49 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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A little fuller explaination of the present situation:


Cops, DA: Credible evidence lacking, but Barto’s family claims otherwise

Posted: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:33 am | Updated: 11:39 am, Tue Dec 24, 2013.
By JULIE ANDERSON janderson@fltimes.com and JIM MILLER jmiller@fltimes.com | 0 comments
WATERLOO — Investigators say they have no credible evidence to support Village Justice Roger Barto’s claim that he was assaulted outside village court in August.
In a press release issued Tuesday, village police said Barto stopped cooperating with the investigation Sept. 16 and that his attorney prohibited investigators from questioning his client. The release did not say what police believe actually happened to Barto.
However, an attorney representing Barto, Gary Muldoon of Rochester-based Muldoon & Getz, said he is the one who advised the justice to stop cooperating.
“The investigation was less than evenhanded and, frankly, was bungled,” Muldoon said. “As a result, I advised my client to not discuss the case further.”
Barto could not be reached for comment. However, his daughter, Crystal Barto, insisted that her father had been assaulted, saying he suffered from a shattered wrist, had “boot-print” bruises on his back and neck and was banged up.
“What a wonderful thing for the police department to do,” Crystal Barto said. “Two days before Christmas they release this. ... This is a man who was on life support. A lot of stuff was covered up, and their claim the evidence couldn’t be substantiated is not true.”
Village Police Chief Doyle Marquart could not be reached for comment yesterday or this morning. County District Attorney Barry Porsch said this morning he could not comment on the matter.
The press release did not explain Barto’s injuries.
Village police said Barto claimed two people attacked him Aug. 31 as he left the village Municipal Building after an arraignment. Barto claimed he was strangled and struck over the head with the top of a porcelain toilet tank that had been removed from the building during renovations, police said.
Barto spent more than a week at Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester and initially was listed in guarded condition.
In the press release, authorities said their investigation was thorough and involved village and state police, the Seneca County District Attorney’s Office and “other State agencies with the assistance of expert medical authorities.”
Crystal Barto said she phoned her father yesterday after she saw the press release online.
“He was at the grocery store,” she said. “He had no idea that the press release was out there.”
She said her father was baffled and couldn’t believe that “his claim was unsubstantiated.”
Crystal Barto said police questioned her father about the incident for nearly two hours.
“It went nowhere,” she said. “It just went in circles.”
At that point, she said, her father asked for an attorney.
“He didn’t stop working with the police,” she said. “He just wanted an attorney present.”
Crystal Barto said a drug and alcohol toxicology test was performed on her father, and the results came back negative
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#1430452 --- 12/25/13 05:02 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Maybe the "attack" didn't happen at that location!!

Seriously, this is just like a "Breaking Bad" episode.

When money and... are a factor people go to great lengths to protect themselves/invesent.
Shady. Sad thing is we will never know the truth. Karma.

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#1430453 --- 12/25/13 06:00 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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He was in the hospital, doesn't that provide evidence that something occurred?

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#1430454 --- 12/25/13 07:54 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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I wasn't referring to one part of the penal code. I was referring to ALL of it....which is meant for all citizens and is not and should not be discriminatory. What's good for one is good for all and should not be subject to arbitrary parsing of what part applies to me....or what part applies to 'them'.

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#1430455 --- 12/25/13 09:40 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
[quote=young guns]To put yourself in to a comma?


If this has anything to do with a comma splicing batman, you should run it by Lusi...it's getting more confusing by the


Bad spelling " Coma" how's that professor.
Now teach do I get an "A" please?

So wasn't this man in a coma? Or is that another rumor that was started. Come on for a person to cause this much harm to themselves is something unreal. "Twilight Zone"

VM aren't you and him cousins some how?
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#1430459 --- 12/25/13 02:43 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Besides his off the books dealings his money also comes from all the insurance claims he has filed following his unfortunate string of bad luck... wait wasn't there a guy in Romulus who got caught killing ppl, and horses for insurance money.

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#1430462 --- 12/25/13 05:42 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: 1moreagain]
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That is cheap comparing him to that animal.

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#1430464 --- 12/25/13 06:52 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: 1moreagain]
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Originally Posted By: 1moreagain
Besides his off the books dealings his money also comes from all the insurance claims he has filed following his unfortunate string of bad luck... wait wasn't there a guy in Romulus who got caught killing ppl, and horses for insurance money.


[color:#990000]Please? Are you off your rocker today. Come on you can not be serious?[/color]
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#1430479 --- 12/26/13 07:56 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: why us]
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Originally Posted By: why us
if it smells like fish:
Two house fires
Fell down the court house steps
Was forced off the road in a car AND a motor cycle
Now this.
It is fish!!
Has me wondering.


You forgot one.. "Getting hit by a car" in Coe-Genungs parking lot. Has me wondering too, I'm trying to wrap my head around this one.

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#1430480 --- 12/26/13 08:29 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Yeah lots of insurance claims, I would say that's very fishy. Also who torched his old buddies house, the p
ast judge.

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#1430495 --- 12/26/13 02:26 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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I heard from a credible source that Barto cannot read! So asking him to brush up/read on the penal code-worthless!!

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#1430498 --- 12/26/13 02:38 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Maybe, just maybe his attorney can read it to him. He was already told not to converse with law enforcement.

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#1430501 --- 12/26/13 04:32 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Things happen in small communities, such as toilet tank cover attacks on judges as the larger cities seem to have all the illegal guns.

The evidence yard at the WATERLOO PD is filling up and soon will have an auction:


The closest we ever came to this alleged crime was when the Plunger suffacator from Ovid was on the loose. The PD could never get any suction evidence.




Could this be the same person?
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#1430502 --- 12/26/13 04:42 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Aunt Money]
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I heard from a credible source that Barto cannot read!
How can a judge not read? Isn't that a big part of his job?
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#1430511 --- 12/26/13 08:13 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Can not read??? You all mean after this assault don't you? I hope so?
I mean come on one has to be able to read in order to enforce the laws don't they??
just love reading all the rumors. Better that Payton Place.

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#1432031 --- 01/08/14 11:40 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Village hall on Main St or Town hall on Virginia St?

I also hope that they catch the sleeze bags that did this.

Speedy recovery Roger.


Hey Dr. D are you related to this man? Just curious?

I always and still believe he's an upstanding citizen of the community. Also hope for a full speedy recovery.
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#1432032 --- 01/08/14 11:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Aunt Money]
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Originally Posted By: Aunt Money
I heard from a credible source that Barto cannot read! So asking him to brush up/read on the penal code-worthless!!



Smell the love! What the matter you get a fine from the judge
at one maybe two times.

OBTW your credible source must be as dumb as you are to even post such a stupid remark. Re: Can't read" ROTFLMBO
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#1432034 --- 01/09/14 03:31 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: young guns]
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Originally Posted By: young guns

Hey Dr. D are you related to this man? Just curious?


No I am not related.

Is there some strange reason that you selected an old posting of mine and brought it up months later?

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#1432339 --- 01/11/14 07:26 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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He will always be known as the judge that had a ceramic toilet tank lid smashed over his head and then refused to talk to authorities.

His rulings could be refered to as "hard headed cracked pot decision"

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#1432517 --- 01/13/14 07:44 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: VM Smith]
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Perhaps there is a pain medication addiction... No easier and LEGAL way to get them than to present to your doc with significant injuries!

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#1432522 --- 01/13/14 08:30 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: Stellar]
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Originally Posted By: Stellar
Perhaps there is a pain medication addiction... No easier and LEGAL way to get them than to present to your doc with significant injuries!


Or perhaps something invoving space aliens!
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#1432566 --- 01/14/14 09:02 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fritz
Originally Posted By: VM Smith
Originally Posted By: Stellar
Perhaps there is a pain medication addiction... No easier and LEGAL way to get them than to present to your doc with significant injuries!

Or perhaps something invoving space aliens!
I agree Mr. Smith.

I've been saying this for years, the north end of Seneca County is a known hangout for Space Aliens! I'm not saying everyone is an Alien, but the north end has a large infestation of them!
They hide all day and after dark they come out of the ooze known as a meadow(Seneca Meadow that is)
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#1432567 --- 01/14/14 09:27 AM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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Real Sad, oh! my frigging head hurts.

I for one just can't see someone doing this to one self no matter what. What does one think they would get out of this escapade if it's true?
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#1432581 --- 01/14/14 12:43 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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One more asinine post about each other, this thread is gone. I'm really sick of it.

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#1432722 --- 01/15/14 07:08 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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You are not talking to me? I hope?
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#1432741 --- 01/15/14 08:30 PM Re: Judge attacked outside court house [Re: drgnfly02]
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That explains the shortage of Tylenol in Waterloo before the attack.

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