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#1418938 --- 09/26/13 12:22 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
What makes you think that I disagree with her?


choose ONLY 1:

defund obamacare
or
eliminate all 'tribal' funding

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#1419079 --- 09/27/13 02:18 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
What makes you think that I disagree with her?


choose ONLY 1:

defund obamacare
or
eliminate all 'tribal' funding

False choices.
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#1419623 --- 09/30/13 11:27 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Quote:
John Stossel: Freeloading doesn't help the freeloader Indians
Wednesday, March 30, 2011


"No group has been more "helped" by the American government than American Indians. Yet no group in America does worse.

Almost a quarter of Native Americans live in poverty. 66 percent are born to single mothers. They have short life spans. Indian activists say the solution is -surprise- more money from the government. But Washington already spends about $13 billion on programs for Indians every year.

There are special programs in 20 different Departments and Agencies: Empowering Tribal Nations Initiative, Advancing Nation to Nation Relationships, Protecting Indian Country, Improving Trust Land Management, New Energy Frontier Initiative, Climate Change Adaptation Initiative, Construction, Improving Trust Management, Tribal Priority Allocations, Resolving Land and Water Claims, Indian Land Consolidation Program. This is just a partial list.

I say government already does too much. Indians would be better off without government handouts. I have evidence: tribes not recognized by the federal government, tribes that get no special help, often do better


you have stated only the interior 'tribes' were affected
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#1421695 --- 10/13/13 03:33 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
bluezone Offline
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
What makes you think that I disagree with her?


choose ONLY 1:

defund obamacare
or
eliminate all 'tribal' funding

False choices.


false?

you have yet to provide a 'treaty' for any NYS 'tribe' that states they are to get free healthcare
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#1422583 --- 10/18/13 06:50 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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how's this make you feel Kyle.....I'll bet your just all warm and fuzzy inside now about ole King Barry............


http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/17/average-american-indian-has-no-co-pays-under-obamacare/

there wont be any abuses here.....

Keep up the good fight though!

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#1422604 --- 10/18/13 09:16 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
how's this make you feel Kyle.....I'll bet your just all warm and fuzzy inside now about ole King Barry............

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/17/average-american-indian-has-no-co-pays-under-obamacare/

there wont be any abuses here.....

Keep up the good fight though!
I don't agree with Obama on this point. I think they should pay the same taxes as everyone else but you have argued they shouldn't have to.
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#1422607 --- 10/18/13 09:26 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
Timbo Offline
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
What makes you think that I disagree with her?
choose ONLY 1:

defund obamacare
or
eliminate all 'tribal' funding

False choices.
false?

you have yet to provide a 'treaty' for any NYS 'tribe' that states they are to get free healthcare

Likely, because I never made the claim that there WAS. You on the other hand, have not provided any evidence that there ISN'T.
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#1422674 --- 10/19/13 09:56 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
What makes you think that I disagree with her?
choose ONLY 1:

defund obamacare
or
eliminate all 'tribal' funding

False choices.
false?

you have yet to provide a 'treaty' for any NYS 'tribe' that states they are to get free healthcare

Likely, because I never made the claim that there WAS.


you stated false choices

make sure you have obama eliminate all 'tribal' funding for the 'tribes' in NYS
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#1422692 --- 10/19/13 11:40 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
Timbo Offline
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Registered: 07/18/12
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Quote:
John Stossel: Freeloading doesn't help the freeloader Indians
Wednesday, March 30, 2011


"No group has been more "helped" by the American government than American Indians. Yet no group in America does worse.

Almost a quarter of Native Americans live in poverty. 66 percent are born to single mothers. They have short life spans. Indian activists say the solution is -surprise- more money from the government. But Washington already spends about $13 billion on programs for Indians every year.

There are special programs in 20 different Departments and Agencies: Empowering Tribal Nations Initiative, Advancing Nation to Nation Relationships, Protecting Indian Country, Improving Trust Land Management, New Energy Frontier Initiative, Climate Change Adaptation Initiative, Construction, Improving Trust Management, Tribal Priority Allocations, Resolving Land and Water Claims, Indian Land Consolidation Program. This is just a partial list.

I say government already does too much. Indians would be better off without government handouts. I have evidence: tribes not recognized by the federal government, tribes that get no special help, often do better


you have stated only the interior 'tribes' were affected

Show me where I EVER said such a stupid thing. Oh right, you're lying... AGAIN.
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#1422847 --- 10/21/13 02:22 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
how's this make you feel Kyle.....I'll bet your just all warm and fuzzy inside now about ole King Barry............

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/17/average-american-indian-has-no-co-pays-under-obamacare/

there wont be any abuses here.....

Keep up the good fight though!
I don't agree with Obama on this point. I think they should pay the same taxes as everyone else but you have argued they shouldn't have to.


I have never argued they shouldn't pay taxes....I've argued that there are enough taxes paid period and that Govt. should learn to live within their means.....but that would be a philosophy that Liberals do not understand.....

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#1422851 --- 10/21/13 03:20 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: SportsRef1]
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#1424367 --- 10/31/13 03:28 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 33792
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Quote:
John Stossel: Freeloading doesn't help the freeloader Indians
Wednesday, March 30, 2011


"No group has been more "helped" by the American government than American Indians. Yet no group in America does worse.

Almost a quarter of Native Americans live in poverty. 66 percent are born to single mothers. They have short life spans. Indian activists say the solution is -surprise- more money from the government. But Washington already spends about $13 billion on programs for Indians every year.

There are special programs in 20 different Departments and Agencies: Empowering Tribal Nations Initiative, Advancing Nation to Nation Relationships, Protecting Indian Country, Improving Trust Land Management, New Energy Frontier Initiative, Climate Change Adaptation Initiative, Construction, Improving Trust Management, Tribal Priority Allocations, Resolving Land and Water Claims, Indian Land Consolidation Program. This is just a partial list.

I say government already does too much. Indians would be better off without government handouts. I have evidence: tribes not recognized by the federal government, tribes that get no special help, often do better


you have stated only the interior 'tribes' were affected

Show me where I EVER said such a stupid thing. Oh right, you're lying... AGAIN.


explain your post below

Originally Posted By: Timbo


How about the fact that virtual every plains indian tribe/nation was removed from the interior.
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#1424368 --- 10/31/13 03:30 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 33792
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
What makes you think that I disagree with her?


choose ONLY 1:

defund obamacare
or
eliminate all 'tribal' funding

False choices.



did you know obamacare was going to fail?



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#1431262 --- 01/03/14 07:50 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo


How about the fact that virtual every plains indian tribe/nation was removed from the interior.


when do you plan on giving your land back to the 'tribes'?
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#1431284 --- 01/03/14 08:38 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo

How about the fact that virtual every plains indian tribe/nation was removed from the interior.

when do you plan on giving your land back to the 'tribes'?

I don't live in Wyoming.
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#1431288 --- 01/03/14 08:51 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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is your logic that only wyoming is 'owed' to the 'tribes'?
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#1431293 --- 01/03/14 09:08 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
is your logic that only wyoming is 'owed' to the 'tribes'?

You're really not very bright, are you?
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#1431302 --- 01/03/14 09:42 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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keep chasing your tail...
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#1431654 --- 01/06/14 10:10 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo

How about the fact that virtual every plains indian tribe/nation was removed from the interior.

when do you plan on giving your land back to the 'tribes'?

I don't live in Wyoming.


then tell obama to cut all funding for 'tribes' in all other states except wyoming.
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#1431705 --- 01/07/14 05:49 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo

How about the fact that virtual every plains indian tribe/nation was removed from the interior.

when do you plan on giving your land back to the 'tribes'?

I don't live in Wyoming.

then tell obama to cut all funding for 'tribes' in all other states except wyoming.

Why should I? I'm not the one with the issue, am I, Barbie?
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