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#1401784 --- 05/17/13 01:18 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/On...A+Local+News%29

Albany (WSYR-TV) – The Oneida Nation will get exclusive gaming rights in Central New York and pay the state an estimated $50 million a year under an agreement announced Thursday.

The agreement between New York State, the Oneida Indian Nation, along with Madison and Oneida counties will keep any new casinos from being built in the 10 counties of Central New York.

The Oneida Nation, which runs the Turning Stone Resort and Casino, will pay the state 25 percent of its net revenue from slots. It’s projected to total $50 million annually.

New York State will give 25 percent of the money it receives from the Oneida Nation to Oneida County, where Turning Stone is located, which is projected to total $12.5 million annually.

The agreement includes a one-time $11 million payment to Madison County.

Yearly, New York State will also pay Oneida County $2.5 million and Madison County $3.5 million from the state share of the revenue from this agreement.

As part of the deal, Madison and Oneida counties agree to drop their legal challenges over land claims against the Oneida Nation.

The Oneida Indian Nation agrees to cap its land trust at 25,000 acres.

The Oneidas also agree to charge taxes on cigarettes and gasoline, but the nation will get to keep that money.

Any disputes related to the agreement can be heard in federal court, because the Oneida Nation has agreed to wave its sovereign immunity.


If a separate referendum allowing an expansion of private gaming in New York is approved by the State Senate and Assembly and voters, the other eight counties in Central New York would share 10 percent of the state’s share of money from the Oneidas.

Before the agreement announced Thursday can take effect, it must be approved by the U.S. Department of the Interior, Madison and Oneida counties, and the State Legislature.
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#1401830 --- 05/17/13 01:30 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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#1402073 --- 05/19/13 04:00 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not sure


so the 'tribes' have not received any funding for the past 200 years that could have been used for hurricane sandy relief?

Quote:
John Stossel: Freeloading doesn't help the freeloader Indians
Wednesday, March 30, 2011


"No group has been more "helped" by the American government than American Indians. Yet no group in America does worse.

Almost a quarter of Native Americans live in poverty. 66 percent are born to single mothers. They have short life spans. Indian activists say the solution is -surprise- more money from the government. But Washington already spends about $13 billion on programs for Indians every year.

There are special programs in 20 different Departments and Agencies: Empowering Tribal Nations Initiative, Advancing Nation to Nation Relationships, Protecting Indian Country, Improving Trust Land Management, New Energy Frontier Initiative, Climate Change Adaptation Initiative, Construction, Improving Trust Management, Tribal Priority Allocations, Resolving Land and Water Claims, Indian Land Consolidation Program. This is just a partial list.

I say government already does too much. Indians would be better off without government handouts. I have evidence: tribes not recognized by the federal government, tribes that get no special help, often do better
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#1402074 --- 05/19/13 04:03 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Albany (WSYR-TV) – The Oneida Nation will get exclusive gaming rights in Central New York and pay the state an estimated $50 million a year under an agreement announced Thursday.


NYS would get more money if a taxpaying owner ran the operations
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#1402245 --- 05/21/13 09:10 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Get read for Turning Stone and the surrounding area to be over-run with fans/tourists!

Tiger Woods will play in the sixth annual NB3 Foundation Challenge at Turning Stone on Aug. 28

http://blog.syracuse.com/divots/2013/05/tiger_woods_will_play_in_the_6.html
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#1402283 --- 05/21/13 07:28 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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I wouldn't walk across the street to have lunch with Tiger if he was buying. \:D
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#1402614 --- 05/24/13 08:53 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Get read for Turning Stone and the surrounding area to be over-run with fans/tourists!

Tiger Woods will play in the sixth annual NB3 Foundation Challenge at Turning Stone on Aug. 28

http://blog.syracuse.com/divots/2013/05/tiger_woods_will_play_in_the_6.html

How do you think Turning Stone makes most of it's money, fund-drives with the locals?
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#1402943 --- 05/28/13 07:17 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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so the 'tribes' have not received any funding for the past 200 years that could have been used for hurricane sandy relief?



Really??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA If they have *saved* that money do you really think we would be $16,837,211,832,000 in DEBT??? What about over the past 200 years the BILLIONS being spent on public official raises(that they vote for themselves) wasted money on *pet projects* and the other BILLIONS wasted on medicaid, food stamps, and other social programs???


I feel the John Stossell OPINION article post coming on \:\/
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#1402944 --- 05/28/13 07:29 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Get read for Turning Stone and the surrounding area to be over-run with fans/tourists!

Tiger Woods will play in the sixth annual NB3 Foundation Challenge at Turning Stone on Aug. 28

http://blog.syracuse.com/divots/2013/05/tiger_woods_will_play_in_the_6.html

How do you think Turning Stone makes most of it's money, fund-drives with the locals?




Fund drives with the locals were 20+ years ago when they hosted Bingo games to afford their own fire service after Halbritter's Aunt and Uncle perished in a house fire that wasn't fought because of lack of equipment and resources (water).

Now they make their money buy offering Las Vegas style gambling. 5 diamond accommodations, Top notch Spa services, World class entertainment, High Stakes Bingo that is rated #3 in the WORLD, as well as renting out their ballrooms to companies for annual meetings, holdiay parties, etc.. To Charities for their fundraising galas, and other businesses for trade shows, etc.. as well as private parties/weddings. and thanks to *Prince Andrew* for the liquor license they can now make $$ off of alcohol sales too!
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#1402953 --- 05/28/13 01:54 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Get read for Turning Stone and the surrounding area to be over-run with fans/tourists!

Tiger Woods will play in the sixth annual NB3 Foundation Challenge at Turning Stone on Aug. 28

http://blog.syracuse.com/divots/2013/05/tiger_woods_will_play_in_the_6.html

How do you think Turning Stone makes most of it's money, fund-drives with the locals?

Fund drives with the locals were 20+ years ago when they hosted Bingo games to afford their own fire service after Halbritter's Aunt and Uncle perished in a house fire that wasn't fought because of lack of equipment and resources (water).

Now they make their money buy offering Las Vegas style gambling. 5 diamond accommodations, Top notch Spa services, World class entertainment, High Stakes Bingo that is rated #3 in the WORLD, as well as renting out their ballrooms to companies for annual meetings, holdiay parties, etc.. To Charities for their fundraising galas, and other businesses for trade shows, etc.. as well as private parties/weddings. and thanks to *Prince Andrew* for the liquor license they can now make $$ off of alcohol sales too!

That's my point. It's heavy hitters like Tiger, that make Turning Stone the success that they are.
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#1402964 --- 05/28/13 02:33 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
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so the 'tribes' have not received any funding for the past 200 years that could have been used for hurricane sandy relief?



Really??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA If they have *saved* that money do you really think we would be $16,837,211,832,000 in DEBT???


all that money went to support your 'tribes' for the past 200 years
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#1402970 --- 05/28/13 04:21 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
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so the 'tribes' have not received any funding for the past 200 years that could have been used for hurricane sandy relief?



Really??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA If they have *saved* that money do you really think we would be $16,837,211,832,000 in DEBT???


all that money went to support your 'tribes' for the past 200 years

Yeah, that's just what we did. We supported them, right after we slaughtered them by genocide.
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#1403065 --- 05/29/13 09:18 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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all that money went to support your 'tribes' for the past 200 years


So the Natives are 100% responsisble for the National Debt??? YEAH OK....whatever helps you sleep at night! \:\/
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#1403284 --- 05/30/13 10:43 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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We supported them, right after we slaughtered them by genocide.


and why did YOU do that?
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#1403287 --- 05/30/13 10:50 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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So the Natives are 100% responsisble for the National Debt??? YEAH OK....whatever helps you sleep at night! \:\/


$35,000 over 200 years for each tribal member

how much did you pay to protect this land for the past 200 years?
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#1403358 --- 05/31/13 01:42 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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all that money went to support your 'tribes' for the past 200 years


So the Natives are 100% responsisble for the National Debt??? YEAH OK....whatever helps you sleep at night! \:\/


have you lost your healthcare?

guess who you are paying for?


Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
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#1403359 --- 05/31/13 01:48 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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So the Natives are 100% responsisble for the National Debt??? YEAH OK....whatever helps you sleep at night! \:\/


teedoff27 show us the 'treaty' that says you have to pay for their healthcare

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
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#1403360 --- 05/31/13 01:50 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not sure


so the 'tribes' have not received any funding for the past 200 years that could have been used for hurricane sandy relief?

Quote:
John Stossel: Freeloading doesn't help the freeloader Indians
Wednesday, March 30, 2011


"No group has been more "helped" by the American government than American Indians. Yet no group in America does worse.

Almost a quarter of Native Americans live in poverty. 66 percent are born to single mothers. They have short life spans. Indian activists say the solution is -surprise- more money from the government. But Washington already spends about $13 billion on programs for Indians every year.

There are special programs in 20 different Departments and Agencies: Empowering Tribal Nations Initiative, Advancing Nation to Nation Relationships, Protecting Indian Country, Improving Trust Land Management, New Energy Frontier Initiative, Climate Change Adaptation Initiative, Construction, Improving Trust Management, Tribal Priority Allocations, Resolving Land and Water Claims, Indian Land Consolidation Program. This is just a partial list.

I say government already does too much. Indians would be better off without government handouts. I have evidence: tribes not recognized by the federal government, tribes that get no special help, often do better
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#1403376 --- 05/31/13 02:55 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
So the Natives are 100% responsisble for the National Debt??? YEAH OK....whatever helps you sleep at night! \:\/


teedoff27 show us the 'treaty' that says you have to pay for their healthcare

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot



Where is the treaty that I have to pay for food, clothing, schooling, neccessities, rent and HEALTHCARE for the WELFARE RATS and their plethora of illegitimate kids!
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#1403499 --- 06/01/13 10:41 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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maybe NYS should take over the seneca 'tribes' casino as we thought that the money from the casinos was supposed to pay for the 'tribes' bills
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