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#1394801 --- 03/31/13 07:42 AM
Re: Veterans disability payments
[Re: Sasquatch]
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Registered: 07/18/12
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Well, it sure didn't change under Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush2. But for some reason you seem to hold President Obama to a different standard. You would think that Bush2, the war planner who got us into a decade of war, would have had the foresight to ramp up the VA to handle the millions of veterans his wars would produce. I don't hold him to a different standard. I agree it should have been done way before now. The thing is, he's in office now and nothing's changed. He could have taken some initiative and corrected the problem there seems to be about how long it takes for vets to get what they deserve. I believed the same when GWB was in office but I didn't expect much from him. I think he only just learned to tie his shoes the day before he left. Barry's still finding crayons and legos all over the White House.  You're right about one thing, Veterans assistance has a Looong way to go and needs a LOT of improvement, however you are 101% wrong about aid to vets under Obama. He signed in to law, dozens of new programs and benefits to help returning veterans. The number of benefits, amount available, time to assistance and especially medical, housing and mortgage, family assistance and counseling are FAR improved, than what existed under Bush. Since Obama took office, Republicans have on several occasions, proposed cutting pay by more than 20%, cutting Psych benefits by almost 50% (including length of benefits, cutting funding for prosthetics and cosmetic surgery and cutting 100% of family counseling. House republicans have stopped several bill that would have allocated tens of millions of dollars for career training and medical assistance for wounded veterans. It would appear that you do indeed, hold him to a different standard, because things most certainly HAVE changed for the better. But there needs to be much more improvement and Republicans are FAR more to blame for current deficits in care and aid to veterans than Obama will ever be.
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#1394804 --- 03/31/13 12:44 PM
Re: Veterans disability payments
[Re: Timbo]
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Registered: 01/16/12
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Well, it sure didn't change under Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush2. But for some reason you seem to hold President Obama to a different standard. You would think that Bush2, the war planner who got us into a decade of war, would have had the foresight to ramp up the VA to handle the millions of veterans his wars would produce. I don't hold him to a different standard. I agree it should have been done way before now. The thing is, he's in office now and nothing's changed. He could have taken some initiative and corrected the problem there seems to be about how long it takes for vets to get what they deserve. I believed the same when GWB was in office but I didn't expect much from him. I think he only just learned to tie his shoes the day before he left. Barry's still finding crayons and legos all over the White House. You're right about one thing, Veterans assistance has a Looong way to go and needs a LOT of improvement, however you are 101% wrong about aid to vets under Obama. He signed in to law, dozens of new programs and benefits to help returning veterans. The number of benefits, amount available, time to assistance and especially medical, housing and mortgage, family assistance and counseling are FAR improved, than what existed under Bush. Since Obama took office, Republicans have on several occasions, proposed cutting pay by more than 20%, cutting Psych benefits by almost 50% (including length of benefits, cutting funding for prosthetics and cosmetic surgery and cutting 100% of family counseling. House republicans have stopped several bill that would have allocated tens of millions of dollars for career training and medical assistance for wounded veterans. It would appear that you do indeed, hold him to a different standard, because things most certainly HAVE changed for the better. But there needs to be much more improvement and Republicans are FAR more to blame for current deficits in care and aid to veterans than Obama will ever be. All that took place under the Democratic controlled house.
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#1394811 --- 03/31/13 02:21 PM
Re: Veterans disability payments
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Registered: 07/18/12
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Well, it sure didn't change under Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush2. But for some reason you seem to hold President Obama to a different standard. You would think that Bush2, the war planner who got us into a decade of war, would have had the foresight to ramp up the VA to handle the millions of veterans his wars would produce. I don't hold him to a different standard. I agree it should have been done way before now. The thing is, he's in office now and nothing's changed. He could have taken some initiative and corrected the problem there seems to be about how long it takes for vets to get what they deserve. I believed the same when GWB was in office but I didn't expect much from him. I think he only just learned to tie his shoes the day before he left. Barry's still finding crayons and legos all over the White House. You're right about one thing, Veterans assistance has a Looong way to go and needs a LOT of improvement, however you are 101% wrong about aid to vets under Obama. He signed in to law, dozens of new programs and benefits to help returning veterans. The number of benefits, amount available, time to assistance and especially medical, housing and mortgage, family assistance and counseling are FAR improved, than what existed under Bush. Since Obama took office, Republicans have on several occasions, proposed cutting pay by more than 20%, cutting Psych benefits by almost 50% (including length of benefits, cutting funding for prosthetics and cosmetic surgery and cutting 100% of family counseling. House republicans have stopped several bill that would have allocated tens of millions of dollars for career training and medical assistance for wounded veterans. It would appear that you do indeed, hold him to a different standard, because things most certainly HAVE changed for the better. But there needs to be much more improvement and Republicans are FAR more to blame for current deficits in care and aid to veterans than Obama will ever be. All that took place under the Democratic controlled house. Wrong again, Slick. Just look at how many cuts and cut-proposals have been floated by Republicans during Obama's tenure.
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#1394831 --- 03/31/13 03:48 PM
Re: Veterans disability payments
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Registered: 08/25/00
Posts: 11561
Loc: NYS
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Well, it sure didn't change under Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush2. But for some reason you seem to hold President Obama to a different standard. You would think that Bush2, the war planner who got us into a decade of war, would have had the foresight to ramp up the VA to handle the millions of veterans his wars would produce. I don't hold him to a different standard. I agree it should have been done way before now. The thing is, he's in office now and nothing's changed. He could have taken some initiative and corrected the problem there seems to be about how long it takes for vets to get what they deserve. I believed the same when GWB was in office but I didn't expect much from him. I think he only just learned to tie his shoes the day before he left. Barry's still finding crayons and legos all over the White House. You're right about one thing, Veterans assistance has a Looong way to go and needs a LOT of improvement, however you are 101% wrong about aid to vets under Obama. He signed in to law, dozens of new programs and benefits to help returning veterans. The number of benefits, amount available, time to assistance and especially medical, housing and mortgage, family assistance and counseling are FAR improved, than what existed under Bush. Since Obama took office, Republicans have on several occasions, proposed cutting pay by more than 20%, cutting Psych benefits by almost 50% (including length of benefits, cutting funding for prosthetics and cosmetic surgery and cutting 100% of family counseling. House republicans have stopped several bill that would have allocated tens of millions of dollars for career training and medical assistance for wounded veterans. It would appear that you do indeed, hold him to a different standard, because things most certainly HAVE changed for the better. But there needs to be much more improvement and Republicans are FAR more to blame for current deficits in care and aid to veterans than Obama will ever be. All that took place under the Democratic controlled house. Only for the first two years Obama was in office. I think everything Timbo is talking about has happened since John Boehner was elected Weeper of the House in 2010.
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