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#1394650 - 03/29/13 04:37 PM North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support
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Chanting “Death to the US imperialists” and “Sweep away the US aggressors,” soldiers and students marched through Kim Il Sung Square in central Pyongyang on Friday during a 90-minute rally.

“We will demonstrate with practical military action the firm will of the army and people of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea,” Mun Kyong Dok, Chief Secretary of the Pyongyang City Party Committee of the Worker’s Party of Korea told the rally, reading out a statement of the Supreme Command of the Korean People’s Army.

State media reported early on Friday that leader Kim Jong-un had called an emergency military meeting to order the army’s rocket unit to prepare to strike the US and South Korea in case of a “reckless provocation” by Washington or Seoul.

A full-blown North Korean attack is unlikely, though there are fears of a more localized conflict.

The threats, while not an indication of imminent war, are most likely aimed at coercing South Korea into softening its policies, to win direct talks and aid from Washington, and to strengthen young leader Kim’s credentials at home.

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#1394663 - 03/29/13 05:46 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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Now this is a good reason to arm all of us US citizens with ARs
100 round drum mags,AKs with the same mag capacity and some Law Rockets. Hell throw in a few Mic-licks with cluster bombs etc.
Line the AO with bouncing betties some clay mores etc.
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#1394666 - 03/29/13 06:00 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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Chanting “Death to the US imperialists” and “Sweep away the US aggressors,” soldiers and students marched through Kim Il Sung Square in central Pyongyang on Friday during a 90-minute rally.
Obama likes to tell us he ended the Iraq War. What he won't tell you is he restarted the Korean War.

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#1394668 - 03/29/13 06:16 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: sands]
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He never tells the whole story. To even think he wants our weapons is a real mistake on his behalf also.
Never slap another person around when they MAY have a CCW!
End of story.
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#1394675 - 03/29/13 07:46 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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RE: Hours Away?

Interesting.

Now that this little megalomaniac has (1) a missile capable of lofting a satellite into permanent orbit and (2) a small nuclear weapon that could be that satellite. I think he could take out DC, LA and Austin, Texas. As well as everything in between. With just one nuke, detonated 250 miles over Omaha, Nebraska.

Ever read a book titled One Second After? It was written by a squid who did the same sort of the work I did in the 80s and 90s.

If you have, then you've got a clue as to just HOW Kim can attack DC, LA and Austin, Texas all at once. Along with all of US in between. With just ONE LITTLE BOMB.

What I've found interesting is that besides North Korea mobilizing for war, it looks like both China and Russia are too.

How can I say this?

For China, they've been (1) moving their mobile missiles into position on the coast near Taiwan and (2) last week they were conducting over-the-water invasion exercises.

For Russia, (1) Putin told his high commands to prepare for war, (2) the Russians have apparently moved a combat naval task force into the eastern Med—something they haven't done in quite some time—and (3) now they're conducting major military exercises in the vicinity of the Black Sea.

For that last one, I'm reminded of Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising and how major Soviet exercises were used as a cover for (1) gearing up their units for war and (2) moving them into position to strike.

Consider this scenario:

[1] Every one of our enemies prepare for war.
[2] US does nothing much.
[3] Mad-dog Kim launches a successful EMP attack against US.
[4] The attack knocks out 90% of all electrical and electronic activity in the lower 48. Effectively knocking US to our knees.
[5] North Korea goes after South Korea.
[6] China goes after Taiwan and possibly later Japan and the PIs.
[7] Russia goes after the Ukraine, Georgia and other areas....maybe even Europe.

As we have little we can do after the initial war stocks in those areas are depleted, our enemies can pretty well do as they want.

It could get 'interesting'. Since without electricity and electronics, One Second After hypothesizes that 50-90% of the US population will be dead within 12 months: Starvation, because we can't raise/transport food, pestilence because there's no electricity to operate hospitals, mayhem, because of the breakdown of social order, murder and even canabalism.

I hope there's a flotilla of Aegis/SM3 equipped US Naval vessels off the coast of North Korea and if there's a missile launch that looks to be going ANYWHERE, they knock it down. That is if the commander has the personal fortitude to do that on his own initiative. Because if he has to get Obama's 'permission', I doubt he'll get it in a timely manner.

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[Be Prepared.....]

P.S. Another 'indicator', as we say in the Army. The week before Putin meet with Xi, his Chinese counterpart. It could be that at that meeting they decided to give Kim the 'go ahead'.

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#1394687 - 03/29/13 10:17 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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And the USG and Cuomo wants are assault weapons fat chance of that ever happening. This does sound as good a plan as it gets to me. Maybe explains why the Gov agentcys are stock pilling ammo.
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#1394692 - 03/29/13 10:41 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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I think you've been watching too many Red Dawn reruns, Comrade!

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#1394696 - 03/29/13 11:12 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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I think you've been watching too many Red Dawn reruns, Comrade!

Here's Tammy and Timbo's hero!

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#1394697 - 03/29/13 11:23 PM Update: North Korea Has Entered “State Of War” [Re: ]
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North Korea Announces Today It Has Entered “State Of War” Against South Korea


EOUL, March 29 (Yonhap) — North Korea announced Saturday that it has entered a state of war against South Korea.

In a special statement, the North said it will deal with every inter-Korean issue in a wartime manner.

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#1394798 - 03/30/13 11:19 PM Update: 30 March 2013 North Korea [Re: ]
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Aggressive talk from North Korea concerns U.S. leaders
By Ernesto Londoño and Karen DeYoung, Published: March 29

The latest round of threats exchanged by North Korea and the United States is dragging on longer and taking on a more virulent tone than in the past, provoking deep concerns among American officials and their allies.

Following blustery warnings by Kim Jong Un, North Korea’s 30-year-old leader, and videos depicting North Korean attacks on the United States, the Obama administration took the unprecedented step this week of sending two stealth bombers to South Korea as part of an ongoing military training exercise.

But despite the escalating tensions, U.S. officials said they have focused more closely on what North Korea is doing than on what it is saying.

“Putting on a show is not the same as taking action,” said a senior administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the volatile situation. “Describing the situation as akin to war is not to be remotely confused with wanting a war, let alone going to war.”

The senior official and others said that U.S. military commanders are closely watching the situation, which has escalated since North Korea conducted a nuclear weapons test in December. In addition, officials cited new levels of cooperation and mutual confidence between the United States and allies in South Korea and Japan.

While a direct attack on U.S. forces on the mainland or in the Pacific seems unlikely, nongovernment analysts said the rising tensions increase the risk of some form of limited armed conflict. North Korea recently cut off its military phone line with the South, which is used to coordinate logistics along the demilitarized border buffer.

In a new escalation of rhetoric early Saturday, North Korea’s official KCNA news agency reported that the country was entering a “state of war” with South Korea and that “all issues raised between the North and the South will be handled accordingly.”

Some experts noted that South Korea also has adopted a more aggressive rhetorical posture. Senior officials quoted anonymously in the media have suggested that plans have been drawn up for “surgical strikes” against North Korea.

“The level and scope of the rhetoric [in North Korea] is stronger than in the past,” said Scott A. Snyder, a Korea expert at the Council on Foreign Relations. “This time we’ve seen a higher level of threat, delivered at a higher level.”

He added, “There’s room for miscalculation right now.”

Earlier this month, the Pentagon announced it was significantly bolstering America’s missile defense capabilities on the West Coast. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel said Thursday that the United States has no option but to take Pyongyang’s threats seriously.

But the decision to include B-2 bombers flown from Missouri in the military exercise with South Korea was made some time ago, the senior official said, adding that U.S. “strategic air assets” would be a part of the annual exercise “from this point forward.”

“It’s not something that just came up last week” in response to Kim’s verbal and video threats, the official said. “But it is certainly the case that following North Korea’s decision in December to conduct a nuclear test . . . both the United States and our allies recognized the need to ensure that there were consequences and that our deterrence was visible.”

Christopher R. Hill, a former U.S. diplomat who served as ambassador in Seoul in 2004 and later led a negotiating team that sought to eliminate the North Korean nuclear threat, said the current standoff appears “more serious” than past ones. It also comes as the North appears to be attempting to bolster Kim’s military credentials.

The doughy, boyish-looking Kim has been an enigma since he took the helm of the country in December 2011 after his father’s death. The country’s leaders have taken great pains in recent months to bill the world’s youngest head of state as a capable commander in chief, granting him additional titles and medals.

“The explanation could be that this is linked to trying to give this third-generation camp a little more of a profile,” Hill said. “I don’t think he has really connected with the North Korean people. They could be looking to show he’s a tough guy.”

The senior official agreed that Kim’s style is sharply different from his father’s, “including putting himself out in front of the cameras. He’s got a sort of assertive, outgoing and more egocentric character. His father was very reclusive and preferred to shove other people out into the limelight.”

But “fundamentally, the patter is eerily the same,” the official said. “It’s a very familiar North Korean playbook that some of us who have worked on North Korea have seen repeatedly. Right around now, during the winter training cycle, the leadership injects a huge dose of urgency. . . to mobilize the population. It’s invariably a counterpoint to the U.S.-South Korean exercises.”

Behind the sudden decision to strengthen mainland American defenses against North Korean missiles is a fear that Pyongyang’s biggest benefactor, China, may no longer be able to act as a guarantor of baseline stability on the Korean Peninsula.

In the past month, North Korea has ignored Chinese warnings by threatening a nuclear strike on the United States and renouncing the 60-year armistice with South Korea. The rhetorical escalation followed advances in missile technology and a nuclear weapons test that China had opposed.

North Korea also appears to be paying less heed to the possibility of South Korean or U.S. retaliation for any provocation. Top military officials said North Korea probably can’t make good on its most extreme threats but suggested that the old rubric of deterrence might be crumbling.

Deterrence involves both prevention and punishment, Adm. James Winnefeld, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said when the Pentagon announced the new missile defense plans.

“We believe that this young lad ought to be deterred,” Winnefeld said, referring to Kim. “And if he’s not, we’ll be ready.”

Anne Gearan contributed to this report.

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#1394888 - 03/31/13 09:12 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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N. Korea vows to strengthen nukes amid tensions
This photo taken on March 28, 2013 and released by North Korea's official news agency shows leader Kim Jong-Un in Pyongyang. North Korea has vowed to strengthen its nuclear weapons, a day after announcing it is in a "state of war" with South Korea, and said it would never trade its atomic deterrent for aid.
This photo taken on March 28, 2013 and released by North Korea's official news agency shows leader Kim Jong-Un in Pyongyang. North Korea has vowed to strengthen its nuclear weapons, a day after announcing it is in a "state of war" with South Korea, and said it would never trade its atomic deterrent for aid.

AFP - North Korea vowed Sunday to strengthen its nuclear weapons, a day after announcing it is in a "state of war" with South Korea, and said it would never trade its atomic deterrent for aid.

Tensions have risen sharply on the peninsula since the United Nations tightened sanctions in response to the North's nuclear and missile tests, and the United States and South Korea launched military drills south of the border.

On Saturday the North declared it was in a "state of war" with the South and warned Seoul and Washington that any provocation would swiftly escalate into an all-out nuclear conflict.

A meeting Sunday of the central committee of the ruling Workers' Party, guided by leader Kim Jong-Un, decided that the country's possession of nuclear weapons "should be fixed by law", the official KCNA news agency reported without elaborating.

The nuclear armed forces "should be expanded and beefed up qualitatively and quantitatively until the denuclearisation of the world is realised", it added.

Members also decided to develop a light water reactor as part of a civilian nuclear power industry to ease electricity shortages, KCNA said.

The North in 2010 disclosed the existence of a uranium enrichment facility and light water reactor, purportedly to generate power. Experts said it could easily be reconfigured to make fuel for nuclear weapons.

The North in April 2009 formally abandoned six-party talks offering it economic and security benefits in return for denuclearisation.

On Sunday it reiterated that its atomic weapons are not a bargaining chip.

"They are a treasure of a reunified country which can never be traded with billions of dollars," KCNA quoted the central committee members as saying.

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#1394892 - 03/31/13 09:42 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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The idiot Kim Jong-Un is doing to many drugs.
I truely hope that war doesn't start over his BS?

Because I'd be all for eliminating North Korea completely off
the face of the earth once and for all. Enough is Enough.

Why live in fear when fear can be eliminated?
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#1394896 - 03/31/13 09:48 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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I think you've been watching too many Red Dawn reruns, Comrade!


Nah! This is as real as it gets.

Don't expect to keep poking the hive and not get stong.

Let a fool talk long enough and he'll get followers.

Like no one ever expected 911 to happen now did they?
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#1394928 - 03/31/13 10:52 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: I did it!]
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Originally Posted By: I did it!
The idiot Kim Jong-Un is doing to many drugs.
I truely hope that war doesn't start over his BS?

Because I'd be all for eliminating North Korea completely off
the face of the earth once and for all. Enough is Enough.

Why live in fear when fear can be eliminated?
You've got to be kidding. Isn't the whole idea of preemptive war what got us into the decade of war that we still haven't finished? And you want to launch an attack that would almost guarantee a nuclear response from the RNK and possibly touch off a global nuclear exchange?

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#1394933 - 03/31/13 11:16 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: I did it!
The idiot Kim Jong-Un is doing to many drugs.
I truely hope that war doesn't start over his BS?

Because I'd be all for eliminating North Korea completely off
the face of the earth once and for all. Enough is Enough.

Why live in fear when fear can be eliminated?
You've got to be kidding. Isn't the whole idea of preemptive war what got us into the decade of war that we still haven't finished? And you want to launch an attack that would almost guarantee a nuclear response from the RNK and possibly touch off a global nuclear exchange?


You sound scared?

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#1394935 - 03/31/13 11:17 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Originally Posted By: I did it!
The idiot Kim Jong-Un is doing to many drugs.
I truely hope that war doesn't start over his BS?

Because I'd be all for eliminating North Korea completely off
the face of the earth once and for all. Enough is Enough.

Why live in fear when fear can be eliminated?
You've got to be kidding. Isn't the whole idea of preemptive war what got us into the decade of war that we still haven't finished? And you want to launch an attack that would almost guarantee a nuclear response from the RNK and possibly touch off a global nuclear exchange?


You sound scared?

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#1394939 - 03/31/13 11:35 PM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
[quote=I did it!]The idiot Kim Jong-Un is doing to many drugs.
I truely hope that war doesn't start over his BS?

Because I'd be all for eliminating North Korea completely off
the face of the earth once and for all. Enough is Enough.

Why live in fear when fear can be eliminated?
You've got to be kidding. Isn't the whole idea of preemptive war what got us into the decade of war that we still haven't finished? And you want to launch an attack that would almost guarantee a nuclear response from the RNK and possibly touch off a global nuclear exchange?


You sound scared?

They are now. Besides those that strike first will most likely win no matter what the match is. If we ever were stupid enough to make the move first they wouldn't have time or even be alive to give any exchange what so ever.
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#1394942 - 04/01/13 12:00 AM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: I did it!]
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OK, let's say we're lucky and the RNK doesn't get off a shot. What do you suppose will be the reaction from China (in case you don't know, they're allies)? Hmmmmmmm?

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#1394947 - 04/01/13 01:12 AM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Ok now that's a good quetion that I can not even attempt to answer sorry.
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#1394973 - 04/01/13 10:41 AM Re: North Korea Has Thousands Come Out To Show Support [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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OK, let's say we're lucky and the RNK doesn't get off a shot. What do you suppose will be the reaction from China (in case you don't know, they're allies)? Hmmmmmmm?
China's Reaction

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