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#1391553 --- 03/12/13 09:37 PM What is Bullying?
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Not every conflict is an instance of bullying. Read how bullying has become a catch-all and how that will not help solve the problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/12/opinion/defining-bullying-down.html?_r=1&


"One way to better identify real bullying is to listen to how teenagers themselves describe their interpersonal conflicts. Most teenagers can identify bullying, but they can also distinguish it from what they often call “drama,” which, the researchers Danah Boyd and Alice Marwick have shown, is an accurate and common name for the ordinary skirmishes that mark most children’s lives. In fact, it’s drama that’s common, and bullying, properly defined, that’s less so."


Edited by twocats (03/12/13 09:46 PM)
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#1391636 --- 03/13/13 11:14 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: twocats]
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Oh nowadays, some love to classify everything as bullying. Gheesh can't even look at someone the wrong way without it being called bullying. Sometimes it does get a bit ridiculous. I understand what real bullying is, but I know of many instances where I've heard parents take it too far to complain their child is being bullied. Back in my day of growing up, it was told by our parents that it would make us become stronger individuals. Not sure what some of these kids will do when they grow up and God forbid join the Military and/or workforce.
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#1391786 --- 03/13/13 10:47 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Dizzyt]
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Let me try this \:o
#1 Timbo
#2 Lucinda Knotts
#3 Dr. Sarcassm Esq

do you all know that 2nd place is nothing more than a 1st place looser.


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#1426739 --- 11/23/13 01:52 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: I did it!]
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I don't know what you call bullying but I consider young children ganging up on another child and berating them with foul language on a public website is bullying. This nonsense needs to stop. It happens more than you know in our quiet little towns and judging by some of the comments made about one another on this forum, it is easily understood where it comes from. This world is in a lot of trouble when people can no longer be civil to one another and can express whatever they want about someone anonymously and not be held accountable for it. It's happening with younger and younger groups and with all the technology these days there is no end in sight. We all should be ashamed of ourselves that this continues to be tolerated. There should be laws to protect the innocent from the hatred and harrassment that has become part of our everyday society.

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#1426742 --- 11/23/13 03:03 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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young children ganging up on another child and berating them with foul language on a public website is bullying. This nonsense needs to stop.


It can stop immediately. The child can go to another website. Or, just ignore those comments, and those who make them.
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#1426745 --- 11/23/13 05:43 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: VM Smith]
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Mr. Sensibility! You have an answer forr everything. You are the Dear Abbey of the forums!

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#1426830 --- 11/23/13 09:55 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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Otoh, you apparently think that she was forced to be on those sites, and therefore there was no way she could choose to not be bullied. Just exactly like being bullied in school, which the state forces a student to attend, with no practical possibility of being able to easily escape them, as is possible online.

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You are the Dear Abbey of the forums!


Thanks! Would you like help with your other problems?
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#1426845 --- 11/24/13 01:47 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: VM Smith]
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Thank you, no. You would be the last person I would ask for advice. You think you know it all but sadly you don't. Just voicing my opinion about the state of society. Not asking you to pretend to solve it. Go back doing whatever it is you do. Have a nice day.

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#1426870 --- 11/24/13 01:23 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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You think you know it all but sadly you don't.


That's interesting. In order for you to know that I don't know it all, you must know it all.
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#1427029 --- 11/25/13 04:31 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: VM Smith]
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VM smith just likes to be right all the time. Can't you see he has the last say in every post. Self absorbed individual.

Maybe VM and the rest of the crew can meet up and tell each other how great they all are. LOL

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#1427680 --- 12/02/13 02:49 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: SunRunner]
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VM smith just likes to be right all the time. Can't you see he has the last say in every post. Self absorbed individual.


Translation:

"Anyone who has the absolute temerity to disagree with the obvious truth of my pronouncements, or with anyone else's thoughts, can only be someone who just likes to be right all the time. Of course, that can only indicate self-absorption, because I'm too stupid and insecure to admit any other possibility".

Tip: If you didn't spend so much time being self-absorbed, and being envious, to the point of blind, spitting rage, when you realize that someone is less ignorant than you are, maybe you'd have a worthwhile life.

I figure that you'll reply, because you're just the type of weirdo who enjoys initiating ad hominem attacks, and then insists on having "the last say". You want it your way, all of the time. Good luck with that, fool.
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#1427689 --- 12/02/13 03:43 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: VM Smith]
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I figure that you'll reply, because you're just the type of weirdo who enjoys initiating ad hominem attacks, and then insists on having "the last say". You want it your way, all of the time. Good luck with that, fool.


Funny!!!!!! Description matches you and kyle to a "T". Read it again and look at the majority of the threads. You both need the last word and kyle is over the top by posting two or three times to make his point.

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#1427732 --- 12/03/13 05:36 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: SunRunner]
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I only wish that I could have gone to school with the old geezer for a year so I could have had the chance to show him what real bullying is. This senior citizen isn't worth the time or the energy. He makes himself feel good through his verbal masturbation. Is there a thread on here he hasn't responded to?

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#1427740 --- 12/03/13 05:54 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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Of course there isn't, he has to get his 2 cents in every post. I think he may live alone and has no one to talk to so he considers this website to be his only friends.

Time to step away from the computer and have some interaction with real humans. But then he would actually have to listen to people and would have to show some compassion towards someone else.



Edited by SunRunner (12/03/13 05:59 AM)

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#1427976 --- 12/05/13 11:41 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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Is there a thread on here he hasn't responded to?


No, Big Limpy. But please tell me...which threads do I have your permission to post on, Commissar? What is the limit, according to you? What number would satisfy your pathetic, dictatorial need to control?

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so I could have had the chance to show him what real bullying is.


Ah..back to topic. Thanks for demonstrating what kind of deviant has a pathological need to engage in bullying. Namely, someone who has nothing worthwhile in his life, and so desires to make others as miserable as he is, to compensate. So sorry...I'm one happy camper, as you would be...if you were me, that is. But you're not me, and you'll just have to live with that, although I'm not sure I'd call it "living", exactly. ;\)

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old geezer


LOL...sputter and whine all you want, if it makes you feel better...just keep working hard, so you can keep paying my SS, sonny. Say...I'm thinking of going to Mexico for a month. Would you like a postcard?
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#1427977 --- 12/05/13 11:46 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: SunRunner]
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he has to get his 2 cents in every post.

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You both need the last word


Three cents. LOL...you just had to come back and try to get the last word, as always, didn't you? \:D

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would have to show some compassion towards someone else.


LOL...so you say, as you initiate attacks on people, for sport.
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#1427979 --- 12/06/13 01:16 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: VM Smith]
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Can't be getting much from SS VM. Need a couple of bucks? Mexico doesn't sound all that appealing to me. I'll be cruising in another six weeks. That's more to my taste. I was admiring your wealth of knowledge on virtually any and every subject...Bullying, divorce, children's self esteem, potty training, food, torque... Does it ever end? Do you sleep on The World Book Encyclopedia each night? When I get old and have absolutely nothing else to do with my life, then I want to be just like you. Can we hang sometime? Maybe sit in your rocking chairs on your front porch and talk about everything? I would like that. I may not be able to add as much as you to the conversation but I am a good listener. Let me know. Just curious. What does the VM stand for? I'm guessing Viagra Man. Is that close? My name is in honor of my favorite baseball player.

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#1427981 --- 12/06/13 01:24 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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PS. I love it when you dissect sections of people's responses and analyze and comment on each of them. That is cool.

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#1427985 --- 12/06/13 03:06 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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I love it!!!!!! "Viagra Man", for the old geezer. Perfect!!!!!!!



LOL...sputter and whine all you want, if it makes you feel better...just keep working hard, so you can keep paying my SS, sonny. Say...I'm thinking of going to Mexico for a month. Would you like a postcard? ( Quote by Viagra Man )


This is a very interesting statement? You MO is of an anarchist, but your existence hinges upon other people working and you collecting Social Security. Understandably you did contribute to the system while you were working pumping gas your whole life but now your are living off other people's work.

Interesting!!!!! How do you explain this to your fascist friends when you sit around the table bad mouthing the government? I guess it is ok because you need it to live, eat and pay your rent on your one bedroom apartment in the projects, so anything you can get your hands on you will take. Do you wait by the mail box for the check every month or is it deposited directly into your account so you don't have to wait for the community bus to take you to the bank?

Are you also on Medicare ?

Oh we'll, Have fun in Mexico. Viagra Man!!!!!!!!!!


Edited by SunRunner (12/06/13 03:25 AM)

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#1428042 --- 12/06/13 10:57 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: SunRunner]
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It's more like a one room apartment located at 55 W Bayard Sreet with all of his other "friends".

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#1428067 --- 12/07/13 10:44 AM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: twocats]
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They call it hazing on college campuses. We have become a nanny state.
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#1428372 --- 12/10/13 11:11 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: SunRunner]
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but your existence hinges upon other people working and you collecting Social Security.


You can say that all you want, but that doesn't make it true. Well,maybe if you put it in shouting caps, and click your heels at the same time, like that other poster, it'll be true for you.

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Understandably you did contribute to the system while you were working


Dawn breaks over Marblehead. That's exactly how people become eligible. Who finally told you, just out of curiosity?

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How do you explain this to your fascist friends when you sit around the table bad mouthing the government?


Fascists don't bad mouth government; they buddy right up to it, to the point where they're blended with government, and together, as one cozy, badly-tuned unit, they oppress people, such as anarchists, and, uhmnn...well, people just like you, even if you haven't yet figured out what a fascist is.

And why shouldn't I take it? Do you imagine that if I don't, then the government will think, "Geeze...VM is right...we'd better end this Ponzi scheme, pronto!"? It's too late for selfless, heroic, useless principle, youngster. It would be for naught; the whole rotten structure crumbles, and SS will go with it.

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Do you wait by the mail box for the check every month or is it deposited directly into your account


Obama drops it off, bows, kisses my hand, hops back on his unicorn, and trots off...it's the darndest thing...I'm so liking geezerhood.

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Are you also on Medicare ?


Not yet, but I may be, so keep working and contributing. I'll be wanting to stock up on some potent meds, so I can chill as I watch this sucker implode.

Viagra's for wimps; I use a Popsicle stick, and staples to keep it from getting lost.
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#1428373 --- 12/10/13 11:33 PM Re: What is Bullying? [Re: Big Floppy]
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Does it ever end?


No. For you, it'll always be Groundhog day.

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Need a couple of bucks?


No

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Mexico doesn't sound all that appealing to me.


Then don't go. If I go, I'll be sure to ask the Mexicans if you appeal to them. They can be pretty picky, though, so just tell me, in 4 words or fewer, what you taste like. Are you hot? They like hot things.

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I'll be cruising in another six weeks. That's more to my taste.


Better you than me, that's for sure. The port calls have to be like dropping off a carrier, with 6,000 other guys, into Disney's World of the Caribbean. Say hello to the flying fish for me. And the tuna.

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I want to be just like you


Sorry...if you're not like me from the beginning, you can never be like me. You're in luck, though; I am a ventriloquist for hire. That's right...as long as you promise to keep working like a dog, to pay for my SS, then, for a fee, I'll stand next to you and say smart things. It'll be a Change They Can Believe In, because your friends will never catch on. Heck, they probably don't know what "fascist" is, either...I'll just tell them he was the drummer for the Rory and the Hurricanes.

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What does the VM stand for?


Valentine Michael. Valentine was my dad, and Michael was my mother. Winston was my cousin. A horrible end...but at least he achieved his dream, and died famous. Or, famously died, at least, so at least he did something with his miserable life. And at the end, his constant nose-picking was cured...not an inconsequential thing.

If he were to be reincarnated, he'd probably look like a lot Tim Straw. Not everybody gets to be famous twice!
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