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#1384154 - 01/23/13 10:29 AM Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony
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Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony, as senator urges 'top-to-bottom review'

Published January 23, 2013

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Clinton still recuperating from Inauguration Parties.

More than four months after the deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in eastern Libya, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will deliver long-awaited testimony on the historic security failure.

The secretary, after missing prior sessions before Congress due to illness, is set to take lawmakers' questions Wednesday before a House and Senate committee. As Clinton prepares to leave the department after a busy four years, the hearing is a chance to address what is arguably the biggest controversy of her tenure.

"There's no question there hasn't been the accountability within the department," Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., the incoming top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Fox News. "I think this is going to be the beginning, I hope ... of a top-to-bottom review."

Congress has already held multiple hearings to date, with lower-level officials testifying, on the Benghazi attack. The administration has gradually backed off its position that the attack was spontaneous -- an assertion that drew the ire of congressional lawmakers who said it was clearly planned. An official State Department-sanctioned report has resulted in several officials leaving their current posts, after finding "systemic failures" left the Benghazi compound inadequately protected.

The hearing Wednesday, though, is a forum for lawmakers to question Clinton on what she might have known about requests for security at the Benghazi post -- and what she thinks should be done to improve security going forward, as she prepares to leave the department. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., has been nominated to replace her.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Tuesday "there was no question" that Clinton "considered it her responsibility to learn the lessons from this, and to take the department forward in implementing whatever lessons were learned."

There are also questions about how the Obama administration responded to the crisis during the Sept. 11, 2012 attack. Fox News has learned from senior U.S. defense officials that a FAST team of Marines out of Spain was asked by State Department officials to change out of their Marine uniforms after being asked to leave for Libya to help -- this required them to deplane and delayed them by about 90 minutes, according to Pentagon officials.

Then there is the decision by Clinton and State Department Undersecretary of Management Patrick Kennedy not to mobilize the Counterterrorism Security Group, which is composed of experts on terrorism from across government agencies and makes recommendations to the deputies who assist the president's Cabinet in formulating a response to crises involving terrorism.

Further, there are questions about the perceived delays CIA officials -- stationed in Benghazi -- encountered that night and their frustration that air support was not sent from nearby Sigonella air base. In recent weeks, Fox News has learned that the rescue unit that left Tripoli was told that "fast fliers" -- or air support -- would be above when they landed in Benghazi. They weren't.

Still, the department's review board concluded: "The Board members believe every possible effort was made to rescue and recover Ambassador Chris Stevens and Sean Smith. The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."

Lawmakers have waited months to ask Clinton direct questions about the Benghazi attack, in which U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed. That attack, though, may just be the starting point for Wednesday's hearings amid mounting questions about the hostage crisis in Algeria and the French-led military campaign in neighboring Mali.

Corker told Fox News "there's going to be a lot of questions about just the overall policies of this administration as it relates to" Al Qaeda's affiliate in North Africa.

An Al Qaeda-tied operative has claimed responsibility for the attack at a gas plant in Algeria that left 37 hostages dead, including three Americans.

Corker suggested the developments challenge an administration that was "spiking the ball on Al Qaeda" last year as the U.S. chipped away at the group's leadership in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and took out Usama bin Laden the year before that.

"That's where the core of Al Qaeda (is), but there are all these nodes that are scattered through Africa now that obviously are a threat to Western civilization, and it's as if they've taken their eye off the ball," Corker said.

Clinton was preparing to testify in December, but fell ill and was unable to address Congress.

The State Department has thus far been sparing in its explanation of the separate Algeria attack.

Nuland said last week that Clinton spoke with the Algerian Prime Minister and "talked about the challenge that Algeria has had historically with terrorism."

Clinton later said "it is absolutely essential that we broaden and deepen our counterterrorism cooperation going forward without Algeria and all countries of the region."

She said she made clear to the prime minister that "we stand ready to further enhance the counterterrorism support that we already provide."

Outgoing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta also had tough words, saying those who try to attack Americans "will have no place to hide."

On the House Foreign Affairs Committee, an aide to Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, also said it's likely the Algeria hostage standoff will come up Wednesday.

Clinton plans to testify on the Senate side at 9 a.m. ET Wednesday, and at 2 p.m. on the House side.

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#1384171 - 01/23/13 11:42 AM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: ]
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So far, these Senators have not asked the tough questions. Sounds more like an Academy Awards event. Come on . . . four Americans were murdered.

Who blamed the murders it on a stupid, obsure video? When and what did the President know? Who wrote the talking points for Rice? Who gave the order to "stand down?" Many, many more.
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#1384172 - 01/23/13 12:01 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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We the people thank you, Madam Secretary, for measures taken to prevent this tragety in the future, but tell us what happened that night? What were you, the President, and other administration and security officials doing that night?
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#1384173 - 01/23/13 12:03 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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Where are the Benghazi survivors? What do they have to say?
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#1384174 - 01/23/13 12:07 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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Secretary Clinton on whether government botched Benghazi explanation, ‘What difference does it make!?’
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#1384178 - 01/23/13 12:17 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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Finally . . . Senator McCain, "People don't bring RPGs and mortars to spontaneous demonstrations."
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#1384187 - 01/23/13 12:45 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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Sec. Clinton doesn't know if there was gunrunning in Benghazi. Who does know, Madam Secretary?

Wow . . . go Sen. Rand Paul!
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#1384188 - 01/23/13 12:46 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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#1384189 - 01/23/13 12:48 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Timbo]
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All the liberals I follow on Twitter are saying Clinton is wiping the floor with Rand.

All the conservatives I follow are saying Rand is doing the same with her.

And round and round we go.

Everything stays the same.
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#1384190 - 01/23/13 12:48 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Timbo]
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#1384192 - 01/23/13 12:53 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense
All the liberals I follow on Twitter are saying Clinton is wiping the floor with Rand.

All the conservatives I follow are saying Rand is doing the same with her.

And round and round we go.

Everything stays the same.


Wow! Who would have thought?
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#1384196 - 01/23/13 12:59 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Timbo]
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Just emphasizes her lack of leadership! People do care why and how four Americans were murdered.
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#1384198 - 01/23/13 01:03 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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Well, she did say, "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."

I suspect she agrees with you.

Excerpts are fun.
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#1384199 - 01/23/13 01:09 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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"Just emphasizes her lack of leadership!"

Explain how.

"People do care why and how four Americans were murdered."

She never SAID people don't care. She asked what DIFFERENCE it makes.


Let me ask YOU a question. Why has the House repeatedly denied aid to the very consulates who have requested added support that might have helped on 9/11/12 and CONTINUE to freeze those funds?

WHY?

Hypocrites All.
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#1384200 - 01/23/13 01:14 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Timbo]
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You can't really deny it was a poor phrasing choice. I think she meant, "it makes no difference now b/c the outcome is the same" but I still find it insensitive and those predisposed to disliking Clinton will see it as indicative of callousness at best, and some sort of premeditated malice at worst. The fact that her next sentence was the need to investigate and find out the truth won't matter to those people. She obviously isn't saying that those folks didn't matter, nor that what happened didn't matter, just that no matter which of those two scenarios it was, the poop hit the fan.

No one who thinks there was a cover-up is going to be convinced otherwise no matter what Clinton testifies to, no matter how well or poorly she phrases anything. Everything stays the same.
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#1384203 - 01/23/13 01:17 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: past tense]
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I think she does too.

My personal opinion is that, although she states that she accepts responsibility, by dodging answers and making excuses (regarding what lead up to the tragedy and especially the blatant lies immediately afterwards) in her testimony, says otherwise.

I do think she is taking the fall for a security failure that ended in the murder of four Americans. ANYTHING, including lies and cover-up, to protect this administration and her party.
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#1384205 - 01/23/13 01:21 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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Yeah, and that's where we part ways.

Who is going to hold the hearing and ask the members of Congress who denied more funds to testify?

Everything is broken. Everything stays the same.

This whole conspiracy theory of lies/coverup post-Benghazi are the same as the whole conspiracy theory of lies/coverup post-Newtown. The media has 24 hours to fill now, and a "live-Tweet/coverage" situation that allows them to stream a continuous narrative that can be corrected with the click of a button. Got it wrong? We'll just Tweet it or blog it or run a correction. There's no accountability for media--an even bigger problem, I think, since their the ones who are supposed to be holding the govt. accountable.
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#1384206 - 01/23/13 01:26 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense
You can't really deny it was a poor phrasing choice. I think she meant, "it makes no difference now b/c the outcome is the same" but I still find it insensitive and those predisposed to disliking Clinton will see it as indicative of callousness at best, and some sort of premeditated malice at worst. The fact that her next sentence was the need to investigate and find out the truth won't matter to those people. She obviously isn't saying that those folks didn't matter, nor that what happened didn't matter, just that no matter which of those two scenarios it was, the poop hit the fan.

No one who thinks there was a cover-up is going to be convinced otherwise no matter what Clinton testifies to, no matter how well or poorly she phrases anything. Everything stays the same.


Of course that's what she meant, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows it. I don't think she's obligated to be diplomatic, considering she's being run through the meat grinder on trumped-up allegations by the very people who ignored the multiple warnings leading up to the attacks in NY and were complicit in potentially treasonous activities, themselves. The administration, currently has the support of the public and is busy trying to contend with FAR more pressing issues.

This is nothing more than political gamesmanship, intended to gain leverage, as to offset the self-inflicted head wound, currently suffered by the Republican party.
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#1384207 - 01/23/13 01:30 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Timbo]
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I don't think the hearings are, in and of themselves, unwarranted.

I do think the far-right conspiracy fringe has added this to their list of insane beliefs about the administration and Clinton.

If the hearings were to actually get to the bottom of things, not "dig up dirt and smear it on the President/Clinton" I think Clinton would be a lot less defensive, and those with questions would get better answers. Instead, Rand Paul is giving us his "If I were hypothetically the President" speech. Partisan accusations will get a defensive partisan response.

Everything stays the same.
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#1384210 - 01/23/13 01:35 PM Re: Clinton set for long-awaited Libya testimony [Re: Ghosts]
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The old drunk Hillary is trying to cover Obama's butt. Will she do? Will she keep her master out of the soup?

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