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#1383239 - 01/17/13 09:14 PM

Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver....

sammy-kid
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Registered: 03/01/12
Posts: 143
Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County

has created a designated smoking area at the Drop In. bad enough we pay for their cigarettes and entertainment, now we have to cater to them so they don't hang out in front of houses smoking. what a joke Seneca County is. now maybe with the raid at Skydancer they'll be forced to walk to Lakeside on 89.

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#1383250 - 01/17/13 11:17 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
Jo Jo Cracko Jo Jo Cracko Junior Member Registered: 10/24/12 Posts: 10 Loc: Sigma Iotia	Sammi- If Seneca County is such a joke, why do you draw a taxpayer funding paycheck there?
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#1383280 - 01/18/13 06:01 AM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: Jo Jo Cracko]
sammy-kid sammy-kid Member Registered: 03/01/12 Posts: 143 Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County	is that what you call it? barely covers my cigar bill. _________________________ But For The Grace Of God
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#1383290 - 01/18/13 07:03 AM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
ibepokenmore ibepokenmore Member Registered: 10/21/05 Posts: 450 Loc: waterloo	exactly where do you want them to go hang out? they get verbally criticized here on the forums, so imagine if they tried to hang out somewhere else. _________________________ With God anything is possible.
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#1383320 - 01/18/13 08:24 AM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
kyle585 kyle585 Senior Member Registered: 02/18/09 Posts: 7628 Loc: Somewhere out there	Originally Posted By: sammy-kid is that what you call it? barely covers my cigar bill. Humans require food, shelter, and clothing. Cigars are not a necessity of life as the vast majority of people can tell you. $;\)$ _________________________ Cayugas: $1 million unpaid property taxes by April in SC.
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#1383333 - 01/18/13 09:08 AM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: kyle585]
Sasquatch Sasquatch Member Registered: 10/07/03 Posts: 169 Loc: Waterloo	I've never understood the hostility toward cigar smokers. We even get it from cigarette smokers! I can understand that a lot of people don't like the smell. I have cigars that I bet many of the people who hate the smell alone wouldn't be bothered if I smoked in their living room. The smell is actually pleasant. Generally the cheaper the cigar, the worse the smell. Sure they aren't a necessity of life. I can agree with that but neither is drinking or constant involvement with a cell phone. Don't even say these things don't bother anyone where cigars have smoke which does. If I drive and smoke a cigar no one is in danger. _________________________ "A woman is a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke" - Rudyard Kipling
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#1383345 - 01/18/13 10:12 AM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: Sasquatch]
sammy-kid sammy-kid Member Registered: 03/01/12 Posts: 143 Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County	Sasquatch - that's a nice looking Ave Maria sampler in your avatar. _________________________ But For The Grace Of God
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#1383378 - 01/18/13 01:20 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
Sasquatch Sasquatch Member Registered: 10/07/03 Posts: 169 Loc: Waterloo	Love the Ave's. Been smoking CAO VR Moby. Nice smoke for under $100. $\:\)$ _________________________ "A woman is a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke" - Rudyard Kipling
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#1383405 - 01/18/13 03:27 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: Sasquatch]
sammy-kid sammy-kid Member Registered: 03/01/12 Posts: 143 Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County	Sasquatch - we should probaby start a cigar thread. I smoke an assortment but lean towards Padron, Camacho, Partagas, A.J. Fernandez, Bolivar, and Pepins. _________________________ But For The Grace Of God
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#1383410 - 01/18/13 03:42 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
Sasquatch Sasquatch Member Registered: 10/07/03 Posts: 169 Loc: Waterloo	That sounds good. It'd be great to hear from other cigar smokers in the general area. I know we have to have more than just us. _________________________ "A woman is a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke" - Rudyard Kipling
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#1383414 - 01/18/13 04:35 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: Sasquatch]
sammy-kid sammy-kid Member Registered: 03/01/12 Posts: 143 Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County	agreed. I will work on a cigar thread on the Online Community Chat section tomorrow if I get a minute. _________________________ But For The Grace Of God
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#1385790 - 02/02/13 12:22 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
sammy-kid sammy-kid Member Registered: 03/01/12 Posts: 143 Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County	apparently my post has ruffled a few feathers at work, too bad. I'm entitled to my opinions and my feelings, and I hope I am still protected with the freedom of speech and freedom of press. I know that when The Board voted the ban in that a waiver for the Drop In was asked for and denied. so why all of a sudden was it granted? I really don't mind, but if The Board is going to grant waivers for one, grant it for all. take a look at the Couseling Center on Thurber Drive. it looks like an ashtray. clients either just throw their butts on the ground out front or they go across the road at the bus stop in front of the no smoking sign and smoke. I know the union won't do anything, they have their hands full with contract negotiations. and enforcement. where is The Board when people are breaking the ban? I know where they aren't. _________________________ But For The Grace Of God
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#1385798 - 02/02/13 01:30 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
VM Smith VM Smith Diamond Member Registered: 11/28/05 Posts: 34295 Loc: Reality	Quote: I hope I am still protected with the freedom of speech and freedom of press. You "hope"? Does that mean you're afraid you might be fined or jailed, by government, for criticising the ban, or how it's implemented, or that FL1's owners might be so punished for allowing you to write about it? That must be what you mean, because "freedom of speech, and of the press" does not mean that any given venue is required to publish anyone, concerning any given topic. It means that government can't interfere with the right to speak or publish. _________________________ The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. John Hay (1872)
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#1385803 - 02/02/13 03:33 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
I did it! I did it! Senior Member Registered: 06/26/12 Posts: 1960 Loc: West Coast 29 Palms	Originally Posted By: sammy-kid has created a designated smoking area at the Drop In. bad enough we pay for their cigarettes and entertainment, now we have to cater to them so they don't hang out in front of houses smoking. what a joke Seneca County is. now maybe with the raid at Skydancer they'll be forced to walk to Lakeside on 89. I'd walk a mile for a Camel _________________________ “The manner in which it is given is worth more than the gift”.
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#1386072 - 02/04/13 02:35 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: I did it!]
RigaMortis RigaMortis Member Registered: 07/11/12 Posts: 312 Loc: Seneca Falls	You don't want them smoking outside? But you also don't want them smoking inside? Where would you like these people to smoke? How are you paying for their cigarettes, do you give them cash? EBT cards don't buy smokes as far as I know. And most public assistance comes in the form of rent, which directly deposits into the landlords bank account. Is their landlords buying them smokes? No, I think they are using their own SSD monthly benefit money for that. Which isn't against the law, cigarettes are perfectly legal. Is it okay to stand away from the no smoking sign and smoke? What if the wind drifts my smoke into your non smoking area? Do you have a plan to stop this? Or is this just some anti-smoking banter this county picked up from Cayuga county commercials. _________________________ SUPER TROLLING
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#1386080 - 02/04/13 02:57 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: RigaMortis]
VM Smith VM Smith Diamond Member Registered: 11/28/05 Posts: 34295 Loc: Reality	I agree. I haven't smoked for several years, but most of these anti-smoking laws are overreach by government; it is not government's legitimate business to regulate or restrict smoking where it is harming the adult smoker, only. I can see a need for banning it in enclosed public spaces, which are paid for by all of the public, including non-smokers, and where there is no real alternative but for everyone to use those spaces to conduct their business. But banning it outside, or in the mere vicinity, just because some don't approve of it, and wish to dictate how other people live? Or in bars, FI, which are private businesses, and where people have a choice as to whether to be in that place? That doesn't respect either individual rights, or the constitution, remembering that, for many years now, it has been held that the state and local governments are also bound by the constitution. And the constitution should mean something, because it's printed on genuine paper. _________________________ The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. John Hay (1872)
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#1386081 - 02/04/13 03:02 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: VM Smith]
sammy-kid sammy-kid Member Registered: 03/01/12 Posts: 143 Loc: Finger Lakes, Seneca County	'The Policy' is specific: No Smoking On County Owned/Leased Property (period) _________________________ But For The Grace Of God
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#1386082 - 02/04/13 03:12 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
VM Smith VM Smith Diamond Member Registered: 11/28/05 Posts: 34295 Loc: Reality	I know that; what I'm saying is that the policy is discriminatory, and is a typical example of government overreach. Smokers pay for that property, too, and whether they smoke is none of government's legitimate business, as long as they aren't harming anyone else. Being stupid, smoking, and/or being addicted, aren't properly crimes, as there is no unwilling victim; they are personal choices, vices, or weaknesses. _________________________ The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. John Hay (1872)
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#1386085 - 02/04/13 03:17 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: sammy-kid]
RigaMortis RigaMortis Member Registered: 07/11/12 Posts: 312 Loc: Seneca Falls	Isn't the drop in a privately owned building that receives state-funds through grants for its services to the community? Much like a non-profit organization? Oh VM constitution was written on Parchment, making it more legit than regular paper :p _________________________ SUPER TROLLING
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#1386088 - 02/04/13 03:28 PM Re: Seneca County Smoking Ban Waiver.... [Re: RigaMortis]
RigaMortis RigaMortis Member Registered: 07/11/12 Posts: 312 Loc: Seneca Falls	I can understand not smoking inside some establishments like government buildings, restaurants or around children and babies. But seriously I don't see the big deal anywhere else, it is someones choice whether to smoke or not, in this age of information if you choose to smoke you know the consequences. If you choose to regulate an establishment that allows smoking, you know the consequences. Like at Dewey's Party house, there are ashtrays on every table outside- last summer someone asked me to put out my cigarette while watching the band. When I told them no they got angry and called me disrespectful. I told them there are plenty of other tables around with no one smoking, you choose to sit next to mine. _________________________ SUPER TROLLING
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