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#1382767 - 01/15/13 07:36 PM
Illegal stops
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j3668py
Member
Registered: 11/10/10
Posts: 471
Loc: new york
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Over the last several months there has been many reports of motorist being pull over by several rogue cops of the Penn Yan police department for bogus reasons, some of these made up charges are not using turning signals or not signaling soon enough. If you or a friend has experience anything similar please contact the PY police chief or the village board and file a public complaint against these BAD COPS.
Edited by j3668py (01/15/13 07:38 PM)
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#1382773 - 01/15/13 07:52 PM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: j3668py]
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northcat
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Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 125
Loc: pyny
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This is so true. I know of several people who have gone downtown to pick up their kids from the bars and find that they are stopped for not using their signal soon enough. Another friend was followed all the way home when they were going through downtown around 1am and one of pd picked up on them. This is why most of the people I know won't go out anymore downtown.
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#1382810 - 01/16/13 12:14 AM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: Mean Gene]
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S.P. King 4th
Member
Registered: 05/05/11
Posts: 318
Loc: PARTYING!
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Mean Gene, have you ever witnessed someone you wanted to pull over because they didn't commit any violations giving you cause to stop them. You know what, you better not answer, we will probably just get one of your "wishy washy" answers of late.
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#1382811 - 01/16/13 12:37 AM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: Mean Gene]
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S.P. King 4th
Member
Registered: 05/05/11
Posts: 318
Loc: PARTYING!
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Get your video tape rolling, if it is happening as you say then you should be able to document it. Otherwise its a he said, she said situation.
Spoken like a true former penn yan police chief! As we already know in Penn Yan and Yates County you are not presumed innocent until proven guilty. You are guilty unless you can prove yourself innocent,and have the funds to provide a good attorney.
Why are the PYPD cars not rigged to have a camera start rolling a few minutes before a traffic stop to catch the alleged violation?
It would prevent the "he said, she said." But the PYPD already knows they are drunk, and you already assume a majority of the people in court are guilty anyway. Remember, that was your answer to my concern that Brockman wasn't properly defending people, just pushing them into a plea deal the DA wanted. You said a majority of the people were guilty anyway so plea bargaining was an important part of the process.
If someone cannot afford an attorney they are appointed with Brockman. If someone is charged with DWI by the Village Police and contend the police did not have a reason to stop them, or are down right lying saying they didn't use a signal when they did will Brockman challenge the stop? Will he be a good public defender and say his clients rights were violated? Or will he be a good a attorney for the Village, and not bring up liability. What if his "client" wanted to sue the Village afterwards?
Since we know they are guilty anyway and you say it's a "he said, she said" about the credibility of the stop, this is all nonsense and wasting the tax payers money. Why should the PYPD have to prove anything? Why should they have the right to a defense when we know they are guilty. Why not just eliminate court and after someone is charged with DWI in the Village (or any other petty crime) the police knows they are guilty of)be sentenced on site by the Village Police!

The majority of people charged are usually guilty of what they are charged with! Plea Bargaining is an important part of the system.
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#1383152 - 01/17/13 12:58 PM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: j3668py]
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Chris.Mickelsen
Junior Member
Registered: 01/17/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Yates
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This has happened to me twice, once by NYS Troopers and once by PYPD. I live in PY and drive to Gates every day, 120 miles round trip. Both times this happened it was due to a, so called, complaint from an undercover officer I was told. I was driving north on 14A and come up on a car doing 45mph in a 55mph zone just after Hall. I passed the car legally, broken line and never went over 55mph. Driving southbound was the Ontario County prison transport vehicle which flashed their light at me, even though I was back in the North bound lane 1/8 mile before we passed. The next morning there was a NYS trooper waiting for me at the Frontier building just north of hall. He saw me and pulled me over. I asked why and was told that he had received a complaint from an undercover officer that "I was driving dangerously, with the potential to cause an accident”. I denied it and ask why the “undercover” officer didn’t pull me over, I was told that “It’s not their responsibility”, which I argued that if I am dangerous, isn’t that their job. The office held me for 30 min and inspected every inch of my car and asked if my windows were tinted legally. I told the officer they better be as I had told the shop when I bought the car to make them legal. He put the meter on the window and wrote me a ticket for illegally tinted windows even though he would not allow me to see the value on the meter. Ticket cost me $250 and allot of aggravation. The PYPD time was officer AMO, many many years ago and is too long of a story to tell, but was the first time I watched an officer of the law lie, in court, under oath.
Edited by Chris.Mickelsen (01/17/13 02:26 PM)
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#1383174 - 01/17/13 02:35 PM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: Mean Gene]
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Chris.Mickelsen
Junior Member
Registered: 01/17/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Yates
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I want to be clear that I am just offering instances where this does happen and that I am not pooping on PYPD as there have been several really good officers we have been lucky to have working on our behalf, specifically officers Morehouse and Donovan.
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#1383213 - 01/17/13 05:11 PM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: Chris.Mickelsen]
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j3668py
Member
Registered: 11/10/10
Posts: 471
Loc: new york
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[quote=Chris.Mickelsen]This has happened to me twice, once by NYS Troopers and once by PYPD. I live in PY and drive to Gates every day, 120 miles round trip. Both times this happened it was due to a, so called, complaint from an undercover officer I was told. I was driving north on 14A and come up on a car doing 45mph in a 55mph zone just after Hall. I passed the car legally, broken line and never went over 55mph. Driving southbound was the Ontario County prison transport vehicle which flashed their light at me, even though I was back in the North bound lane 1/8 mile before we passed. The next morning there was a NYS trooper waiting for me at the Frontier building just north of hall. He saw me and pulled me over. I asked why and was told that he had received a complaint from an undercover officer that "I was driving dangerously, with the potential to cause an accident”. I denied it and ask why the “undercover” officer didn’t pull me over, I was told that “It’s not their responsibility”, which I argued that if I am dangerous, isn’t that their job. The office held me for 30 min and inspected every inch of my car and asked if my windows were tinted legally. I told the officer they better be as I had told the shop when I bought the car to make them legal. He put the meter on the window and wrote me a ticket for illegally tinted windows even though he would not allow me to see the value on the meter. Ticket cost me $250 and allot of aggravation. The PYPD time was officer AMO, many many years ago and is too long of a story to tell, but was the first time I watched an officer of the law lie, in court, under oath. [/quote There are good cops and bad cops, PYPD has a few dirty cops who lie all the time just to pull someone over hoping they will make a BIG BUST. These cops are scum who use their badge to harass and set up law abiding citizens, the PY police chief and the other officers on the force know which cops are dirty yet they take no corrective action against them. The Yates county sheriff's department recently force one of these bad cops to retire but then turned around and hire him back as a part time deputy.
Edited by j3668py (01/17/13 05:12 PM)
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#1383440 - 01/18/13 10:58 PM
Re: Illegal stops
[Re: j3668py]
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Honestly
Member
Registered: 06/24/12
Posts: 152
Loc: Penn Yan
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[quote=Chris.Mickelsen]This has happened to me twice, once by NYS Troopers and once by PYPD. I live in PY and drive to Gates every day, 120 miles round trip. Both times this happened it was due to a, so called, complaint from an undercover officer I was told. I was driving north on 14A and come up on a car doing 45mph in a 55mph zone just after Hall. I passed the car legally, broken line and never went over 55mph. Driving southbound was the Ontario County prison transport vehicle which flashed their light at me, even though I was back in the North bound lane 1/8 mile before we passed. The next morning there was a NYS trooper waiting for me at the Frontier building just north of hall. He saw me and pulled me over. I asked why and was told that he had received a complaint from an undercover officer that "I was driving dangerously, with the potential to cause an accident. I denied it and ask why the undercover officer didnt pull me over, I was told that Its not their responsibility, which I argued that if I am dangerous, isnt that their job. The office held me for 30 min and inspected every inch of my car and asked if my windows were tinted legally. I told the officer they better be as I had told the shop when I bought the car to make them legal. He put the meter on the window and wrote me a ticket for illegally tinted windows even though he would not allow me to see the value on the meter. Ticket cost me $250 and allot of aggravation. The PYPD time was officer AMO, many many years ago and is too long of a story to tell, but was the first time I watched an officer of the law lie, in court, under oath. [/quote There are good cops and bad cops, PYPD has a few dirty cops who lie all the time just to pull someone over hoping they will make a BIG BUST. These cops are scum who use their badge to harass and set up law abiding citizens, the PY police chief and the other officers on the force know which cops are dirty yet they take no corrective action against them. The Yates county sheriff's department recently force one of these bad cops to retire but then turned around and hire him back as a part time deputy. And round and round we go in Yates County! Hey, Cook are you reading these strings???
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