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#1375352 - 12/01/12 10:57 PM
Why Do We Bus Students?
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Lee Alias
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Registered: 07/12/11
Posts: 38
Loc: NY,Seneca, Seneca Falls
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Back in the '50s & '60's the only kids bused to school, lived in the rural/country areas...today we bus students no matter the distances to/from school, why??? Today's kids get less exercise from walking;; my walk to high school was about a 1.5miles (1 way. Elementary school 1/8" mile & 1/2 for Jr. high (Middle school) . Transportation cost keep rising.....is it a safety reason?? Seneca Falls/Waterloo and some other small areas it is not a racial issue...so why?? What do you think??
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#1375380 - 12/02/12 08:16 AM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Lee Alias]
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Here's Johnny
Senior Member
Registered: 11/14/10
Posts: 601
Loc: New York
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The law says kids have to go to school and as a result the school has become involved in making sure they get there. The better the schools can get all kids enrolled to schools the more state aid they get. Attendance in school and the numbers of who is attending each day (and for even part of the day) is used to calculate the actual aid number. More busing means better attendance percentages ergo more state aid.
However transportation costs represent a huge cost. Although mostly subsidized by another state aid program to purchase buses let us not forget who pays for that program - our taxes.
Some school districts contract out the entire operation to private bus companies. We here in Seneca County do not do that. In the end the school district would save some money by contracting out but: 1) we don't have any bus companies nearby that have the resources to start that up (except, perhaps through some federal or state subsidy). 2)Laying off the dozens of people involved in transportation at the school destroys their livelihood. The impact on the local community and economy would be devastating.
Maybe the state laws could be changed. Right now every school must have enough bus capacity to carry all students. This means perhaps we really need fewer and smaller more fuel efficient buses as many kids don't ride the bus. Some obviously don't have to and others who could avoid the bus because of the unpleasant experience engendered there. Point is something might be better than what we have. Good luck on changing the law though, bus manufacturers, transportation workers, advocacy groups, etc. will block that path.
Edited by Here's Johnny (12/02/12 08:21 AM)
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#1375395 - 12/02/12 11:48 AM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Here's Johnny]
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Lee Alias
Member
Registered: 07/12/11
Posts: 38
Loc: NY,Seneca, Seneca Falls
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Interesting.....another case I believe the State should not be involved, like you said probably will not change.
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#1375405 - 12/02/12 01:09 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Josephus]
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Right of Passage
Junior Member
Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 12
Loc: New York
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More kids should walk to school. Especially in small communities. But I've seen a lot of people on here over the years complaining about the quality of individuals (registered sex offenders) in those same communities. With the "flooding" of sex offenders in our society I'd say that's reason enough to scare most away from the idea of limiting walking limits and why they basically grant everyone the opportunity to get bused in.
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#1375406 - 12/02/12 01:10 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Right of Passage]
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Right of Passage
Junior Member
Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 12
Loc: New York
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That's not to say it couldn't work. It just leaves a lot of room for error, and a lot of room for kids safety being put at risk.
Society has changed a ton over the years, and for the worst by a long shot.
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#1375411 - 12/02/12 01:24 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Right of Passage]
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Lee Alias
Member
Registered: 07/12/11
Posts: 38
Loc: NY,Seneca, Seneca Falls
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Great comments PS - I did not grow-up in SF. I agree with the Safety issue with the changing population I would not allow my kids (who are now grown) to walk to school or my grand kids. We either walk them or drive them to & from. Watching some of the bus drivers & kids standing up while the bus is moving: it's not worth the chance someone geting hurt, on the bus and of course there the "Bulling". Thanks for the input.
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#1375412 - 12/02/12 01:28 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Lee Alias]
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thebigfish69
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Registered: 03/03/11
Posts: 42
Loc: seneca
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The kids would sue the parents today for abuse if they HAD to walk to school. LOL
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#1375414 - 12/02/12 01:34 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: thebigfish69]
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Right of Passage
Junior Member
Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 12
Loc: New York
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LA, good point though. Personally, never rode a bus going to or from school unless it was on a field trip. Parents should be making a better effort to get there kids, to and from school themselves if they can.
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#1375427 - 12/02/12 03:04 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Right of Passage]
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Spanky
Senior Member
Registered: 11/19/00
Posts: 1371
Loc: Seneca Falls NY Seneca
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Heck, back when,we walked 3 miles uphill both ways to school and back. Summer-winter and in between,
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#1375462 - 12/02/12 06:14 PM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
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Here's Johnny
Senior Member
Registered: 11/14/10
Posts: 601
Loc: New York
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Less incidences were reported. The laws are more strict now as well so more scrutiny and enforcement. Hard to comprehend that kids would have any trouble walking home from school.
I remember walking to the old First Ward School and then home again as a Kindergartener. I can't believe it now myself but it is a fact. All the way up State St. past Bracht Field and then up Cayuga St. Never had an issue.
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#1375575 - 12/03/12 11:12 AM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Josephus]
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Sketch
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Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 397
Loc: NYS
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I agree with Dr. Sarc. Pedophiles have always been here, and so has incest. Just because it wasn't reported didn't mean it wasn't happening. I think we hear about it now for two reasons.
1. We as a society are encouraged to speak out about and against it now, and
2. We live in a global media today, which wasn't true 50 years ago. All the nasty stuff you see splashed across your TV screen and monitor today on a daily basis was taking place decades ago in equal amounts. You just didn't hear about it as much.
I agree 100%. There's no credible reason to beleive that there are more pervs running around now than, say, in the 70's. We simply know about all of them, and our society now operates in fear. The fact of the matter is, the vast majority of abductions and ne'er do-well behaviors towards the little ones are committed by someone close to the family.
We live holed up in our homes, afraid the Franky down the street is going to snatch up our children.
Keep in mind that many s*x offenders are not of the serious, stalker type.
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#1375576 - 12/03/12 11:14 AM
Re: Why Do We Bus Students?
[Re: Josephus]
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Sketch
Member
Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 397
Loc: NYS
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I agree with Dr. Sarc. Pedophiles have always been here, and so has incest. Just because it wasn't reported didn't mean it wasn't happening. I think we hear about it now for two reasons.
1. We as a society are encouraged to speak out about and against it now, and
2. We live in a global media today, which wasn't true 50 years ago. All the nasty stuff you see splashed across your TV screen and monitor today on a daily basis was taking place decades ago in equal amounts. You just didn't hear about it as much.
I agree 100%. There's no credible reason to beleive that there are more pervs running around now than, say, in the 70's. We simply know about all of them, and our society now operates in fear. The fact of the matter is, the vast majority of abductions and ne'er do-well behaviors towards the little ones are committed by someone close to the family.
We live holed up in our homes, afraid the Franky down the street is going to snatch up our children.
Keep in mind that many s*x offenders are not of the serious, stalker type.
_________________________
God's word declared, it will be so...
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