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#1373973 - 11/20/12 02:38 PM Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War
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November 16, 2012 by Kevin Fobbs
Obama Effort to strip constitutional gun rights may start American Civil War


51-US-senators-voice-concerns-with-UN-arms-treatyAre you ready to wake up in an America where your family is defenseless against enemies foreign or domestic? This reality is right around the corner. A day after his reelection, Barack Obama signaled the United Nations that he is ready to sign an Arms Treaty to strip you of your U.S. Second Amendment Constitutional right to bear arms.

Obama’s move to sign a United Nations’ Gun Ban Treaty will escalate states’ effort for seceding from America.
This is not new. The United Nations made earlier attempts during the administration of former President George W. Bush. But, President Bush soundly rejected the measure. Now, President Obama, fresh off of this presidential win, feels emboldened to go forward with his design to unilaterally dismember the guaranteed constitutional protections citizens of this nation are entitled to.

Do you feel comfortable with the idea that the U.S. State Department under the control of either Ambassador Hillary Clinton will truly represent your interest? What about her possible replacement nominee, America’s United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice? This is the same Ambassador Rice who went on five television network shows to cover up the truth of what happened to four Americans murdered on 9/11 in Benghazi, Libya.

Where does that leave Americans?

The real question is what are you prepared to do in order to defend your right to defend your family? Will you wait to see what happens? Or will you take the necessary steps to make certain that you will not have to wait and see if United Nations gun control officials knock at your door and demand “Gun license and registration, please!”

The right to control your guns is not open for debate or for negotiation. It is a sovereign right that no foreign organization, including the United Nations has the right or the authority to undertake, because a president gives the go ahead.

When any president decides to destroy the nation’s U.S. Constitutional rights afforded to its citizens, which he has sworn to uphold, he no longer has the authority to represent the nation’s citizens. He must be impeached!

The U.S. Constitution says with great clarity in Article II, Section 4:
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

Your signed petitions should be forwarded to John Boehner, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives.

The impeachment process begins in the House of Representatives according to Article I, Section 2: “The House of Representatives . . . shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.”

You do not need the permission of the White House nor do you need the permission of the mainstream media to determine your course of action to demand the impeachment of Barack Obama. Develop a list of particulars that petitioners in all fifty states will sign. The secessionist movement has already gotten the ball rolling.

Several hundred thousand petitioners representing all fifty states, including battleground state Ohio have signed to secede from the union. This is far more serious than a group of Hollywood actors and entertainers who threatened to vacate and move to Canada after President Bush was reelected in 2004.

This is a significant and determined first step in the process to take back this nation from a president who has made numerous attempts to circumvent the U.S. Constitution.

Impeachment for the purposes of clarification comes from English law and was used in 1640 case against Thomas Wentworth, Earl of Strafford. He had, “traiterously endeavored to subvert the Fundamental Laws and Government of the Realms . . . and instead thereof, to introduce Arbitrary and Tyrannical Government against Law.”

Obama has moved to subvert the fundamental laws and government of the United States, by refusing to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) which is congressional legislation passed and signed into law by President Bill Clinton. He has issued an executive order which circumvents federal immigration law, granting nearly a million illegal immigrants the right to be protected from removal which the law demands. These are just a few of his attempts to subvert the U.S. Constitution.

So in plain English, President Obama should face impeachable offenses that can be determined in the House of Representatives.

Begin now to take your first steps of many to protect the integrity of your Second Amendment U.S. Constitution’s right to protect your family. Today, tonight and tomorrow consider: what are you prepared to do


Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/11/obama-.../#ixzz2CnD8bRFx

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#1373975 - 11/20/12 02:50 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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#1373976 - 11/20/12 02:55 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: I did it!]
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what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.

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#1373980 - 11/20/12 03:07 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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Just more fear mongering (with a dash of sour grapes and whining) from the losers in the last election. There is ZERO chance of this administration or any other administration being able to successfully pass laws to "strip gun rights" regardless of any treaty, which of course must be approved by the Senate. The GOP has been very successful in blocking everything else in the Senate, so I'm sure this wouldn't be any different, even assuming that Democrats were willing to pass it. .

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#1373985 - 11/20/12 03:12 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Cuzi Sedso]
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Originally Posted By: Cuzi Sedso
The GOP has been very successful in blocking everything else in the Senate


So dirty Harry is trying to change the rules in the Senate - coincidence? I think not. Never say never, Cuz.
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#1373989 - 11/20/12 03:33 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/still-no-international-gun-ban-treaty/

A chain email that we debunked back in 2009 is making the rounds again. But nothing has changed in more than two years that would make the message any more true.

Its author claims that President Barack Obama “intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.” That’s a reference to a potential United Nations treaty to regulate the global trade of conventional weapons.

“On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States,” the author of the chain email writes, referring to the Obama administration’s announcement in October 2009 that it would support a process that could lead to a treaty. “By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments.”

First, we should note that Obama has said that the Second Amendment “does provide for Americans the right to bear arms for their protection, for their safety, for hunting, for a wide range of uses.” But if Obama actually wanted to “ban all firearms in the United States,” the strategy outlined in this email would be a curious way of trying to accomplish that goal.

For starters, Obama wouldn’t be able to “bypass” Congress, as the author of this email claims. All international treaties that the U.S. agrees to require the approval of two-thirds of the senators present before the treaties can be ratified. Those would surely be tough votes to get if the treaty banned all firearms. Last year, in fact, 13 Democratic senators, led by Jon Tester of Montana, wrote a letter to Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying that they wouldn’t support a treaty unless they were guaranteed that it wouldn’t “in any way regulate the domestic manufacture, possession or sales of firearms or ammunition” in the U.S.

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#1373990 - 11/20/12 03:39 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/still-no-international-gun-ban-treaty/

A chain email that we debunked back in 2009 is making the rounds again. But nothing has changed in more than two years that would make the message any more true.

Its author claims that President Barack Obama “intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.” That’s a reference to a potential United Nations treaty to regulate the global trade of conventional weapons.

“On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States,” the author of the chain email writes, referring to the Obama administration’s announcement in October 2009 that it would support a process that could lead to a treaty. “By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments.”

First, we should note that Obama has said that the Second Amendment “does provide for Americans the right to bear arms for their protection, for their safety, for hunting, for a wide range of uses.” But if Obama actually wanted to “ban all firearms in the United States,” the strategy outlined in this email would be a curious way of trying to accomplish that goal.

For starters, Obama wouldn’t be able to “bypass” Congress, as the author of this email claims. All international treaties that the U.S. agrees to require the approval of two-thirds of the senators present before the treaties can be ratified. Those would surely be tough votes to get if the treaty banned all firearms. Last year, in fact, 13 Democratic senators, led by Jon Tester of Montana, wrote a letter to Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying that they wouldn’t support a treaty unless they were guaranteed that it wouldn’t “in any way regulate the domestic manufacture, possession or sales of firearms or ammunition” in the U.S.
You mean to say Kevin Fobbs didn't write this, its a chain letter?

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#1373994 - 11/20/12 04:07 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: I did it!
what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.


More like a sacred pact of honoring the Republican's play book ;\)

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
― Adolf Hitler

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#1373995 - 11/20/12 04:15 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Ohithere]
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Originally Posted By: Ohithere
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: I did it!
what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.


More like a sacred pact of honoring the Republican's play book ;\)

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
― Adolf Hitler


Tell that to Obama.

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#1373997 - 11/20/12 04:38 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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No....I believe that was a Romney/Ryan problem. They thought that voters would accept their misinformations,lies and partial truths as fact but the intelligent voters saw through the entire platform. Remember the Republicans stating that they would not be dictated by fact checks? Now that is funny seeing that facts were their downfall.

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#1373998 - 11/20/12 04:53 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: I did it!
what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.


Is that because you never saw combat?
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#1373999 - 11/20/12 05:08 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Harley Bob Tale]
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Originally Posted By: Harley Bob Tale
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: I did it!
what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.


Is that because you never saw combat?
They will still need potato peelers and latrine cleaners. That contract is renewable!
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#1374007 - 11/20/12 05:58 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Mr. Krabs]
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Krabs
Originally Posted By: Harley Bob Tale
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: I did it!
what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.


Is that because you never saw combat?
They will still need potato peelers and latrine cleaners. That contract is renewable!
HeyMom why do you switch user names to bash?

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#1374012 - 11/20/12 06:06 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Ohithere]
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No....I believe that was a Romney/Ryan problem. They thought that voters would accept their misinformations,lies and partial truths as fact but the intelligent voters saw through the entire platform. Remember the Republicans stating that they would not be dictated by fact checks? Now that is funny seeing that facts were their downfall.
Romney/Ryan problem?
What does Romney/Ryan have to do with Obama /Biden the lies that never stop flowing from Hussein?

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#1374014 - 11/20/12 06:12 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: I did it!
what are you prepared to do? Fight again


I'm still under contract.
Chic Jesus, first. thank you for your service, second, you are a Great American and I love reading your attempts to educate others on what it means to be a Great American.
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#1374015 - 11/20/12 06:14 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Zealot]
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I agree with you, the GOP is not our friend. If they vote with the dems to unarm us, they will think of that as a win for them too.
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#1374018 - 11/20/12 06:20 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: Ohithere
No....I believe that was a Romney/Ryan problem. They thought that voters would accept their misinformations,lies and partial truths as fact but the intelligent voters saw through the entire platform. Remember the Republicans stating that they would not be dictated by fact checks? Now that is funny seeing that facts were their downfall.
Romney/Ryan problem?
What does Romney/Ryan have to do with Obama /Biden the lies that never stop flowing from Hussein?


lOL, Their lies helped Obama/Biden win the election
One thing I'll admit,Obama will lie as any politician,one of the reasons that I did not vote for him. In your case if Bozo the Clown was the Presidential candidate and BOO BOO the Fool was his running mate....they have your full support, based on the fact that they're Republicans and nothing else. They call you guys, uninformed voters...look up the def.

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#1374023 - 11/20/12 06:47 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: Ohithere]
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#1374025 - 11/20/12 06:52 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: twocats]
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#1374026 - 11/20/12 06:57 PM Re: Obama to strip gun rights may start Civil War [Re: I did it!]
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Originally Posted By: I did it!
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Thoughts for my reply is that I'm still in the jungle,never really left. No matter of a AO taken up there will always be
a jungle. That's life
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