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#1364825 - 09/20/12 08:31 PM FOX News Poll
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#1364866 - 09/21/12 05:15 AM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: twocats]
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if I were a supporter of "O" I'd be weeping....his numbers in this poll are terrible for a sitting Pres....even with Romney and his inability to be politically correct..."O" cant really distance himself from Romney.....but what was interesting is that nearly 90% of those polled believe that the economy is the same or worse than it was 4 years ago, still in, or another recession headed our way soon, be proud of the Great Divider twocats.

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#1365034 - 09/21/12 03:50 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: SportsRef1]
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herma...--election.html

by Chris Moody, Yahoo! News

Herman Cain would have a "substantial lead" over President Barack Obama if Republicans had made him their nominee, according to Herman Cain, who spoke at the University of Florida on Thursday.

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#1365491 - 09/24/12 07:11 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: kyle585]
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NASCAR fans favor Obama...

Obama leads Romney among NASCAR fans: Poll
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 9 hrs ago
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President Obama poses with NASCAR driver Tony Stewart at the White House, April 17, 2012. (Getty)
Mitt Romney's recent slide in several polls, including those in the battleground states of Ohio, Virginia and Florida, is troubling enough for the GOP. But, now the Republican nominee appears to be trailing President Barack Obama among a traditionally conservative constituency: NASCAR fans.
Obama leads Romney 49 to 42 percent among NASCAR enthusiasts, according to a new Zogby poll by JZ Analytics.
As the liberal blog PoliticusUSA.com pointed out, Romney was booed at the Daytona 500 in February during a campaign trip ahead of Super Tuesday.
[Also read: Romney says his campaign doesn't need a 'turnaround']
Per the New York Times:
The crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. "I like those fancy raincoats you bought," he said. "Really sprung for the big bucks." And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that "I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners."
NASCAR fans, though, have been known to boo politicians. Last fall, first lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's wife, were booed when they served as grand marshals at a race in Miami.
The online poll of 860 likely voters conducted on Sept. 21 and 22 also found that Obama leads Romney 54 to 40 percent among military families.
Among Catholics, the president's edge—46 to 44 percent—is within the poll's 3.4 percent margin of error. But among voters who "never attend a place of worship," Obama's lead over Romney is 63 to 26 percent.
[Related: New poll shows Obama leads Romney in swing states]
Among voters who identified themselves as "social networkers," Obama is ahead of Romney 55 to 33 percent.
Overall, the president leads the GOP challenger 49 to 41 percent, according to the poll. Obama has a head start of 14 points among independents (46 to 32 percent), 33 points among moderates (60 to 27 percent), 36 points among 18- to 29-year-olds (65 to 29 percent), and 42 points among Hispanics (68 to 26 percent).
Of the 103 likely voters who identified themselves as African-American, 96 said they would vote for Obama—with none indicating they would back Romney.
There are a few voting blocs that favor Romney, according to the poll. Among born-again Christians, Romney leads Obama 48 to 40 percent. The former Massachusetts governor held the same lead among rural voters. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart weekly, Romney is ahead of Obama 46 to 42 percent. And among those sympathetic to the tea party, Romney holds a 75 to 17 percent edge.
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#1365502 - 09/24/12 08:13 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: twocats]
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NASCAR fans favor Obama...

Obama leads Romney among NASCAR fans: Poll
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 9 hrs ago
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President Obama poses with NASCAR driver Tony Stewart at the White House, April 17, 2012. (Getty)
Mitt Romney's recent slide in several polls, including those in the battleground states of Ohio, Virginia and Florida, is troubling enough for the GOP. But, now the Republican nominee appears to be trailing President Barack Obama among a traditionally conservative constituency: NASCAR fans.
Obama leads Romney 49 to 42 percent among NASCAR enthusiasts, according to a new Zogby poll by JZ Analytics.
As the liberal blog PoliticusUSA.com pointed out, Romney was booed at the Daytona 500 in February during a campaign trip ahead of Super Tuesday.
[Also read: Romney says his campaign doesn't need a 'turnaround']
Per the New York Times:
The crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. "I like those fancy raincoats you bought," he said. "Really sprung for the big bucks." And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that "I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners."
NASCAR fans, though, have been known to boo politicians. Last fall, first lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's wife, were booed when they served as grand marshals at a race in Miami.
The online poll of 860 likely voters conducted on Sept. 21 and 22 also found that Obama leads Romney 54 to 40 percent among military families.
Among Catholics, the president's edge—46 to 44 percent—is within the poll's 3.4 percent margin of error. But among voters who "never attend a place of worship," Obama's lead over Romney is 63 to 26 percent.
[Related: New poll shows Obama leads Romney in swing states]
Among voters who identified themselves as "social networkers," Obama is ahead of Romney 55 to 33 percent.
Overall, the president leads the GOP challenger 49 to 41 percent, according to the poll. Obama has a head start of 14 points among independents (46 to 32 percent), 33 points among moderates (60 to 27 percent), 36 points among 18- to 29-year-olds (65 to 29 percent), and 42 points among Hispanics (68 to 26 percent).
Of the 103 likely voters who identified themselves as African-American, 96 said they would vote for Obama—with none indicating they would back Romney.
There are a few voting blocs that favor Romney, according to the poll. Among born-again Christians, Romney leads Obama 48 to 40 percent. The former Massachusetts governor held the same lead among rural voters. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart weekly, Romney is ahead of Obama 46 to 42 percent. And among those sympathetic to the tea party, Romney holds a 75 to 17 percent edge.



Ahahahahahahahahaha...the real polls have Romney by 8+ to 10+.

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#1365528 - 09/25/12 02:18 AM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
NASCAR fans favor Obama...

Obama leads Romney among NASCAR fans: Poll
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 9 hrs ago
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President Obama poses with NASCAR driver Tony Stewart at the White House, April 17, 2012. (Getty)
Mitt Romney's recent slide in several polls, including those in the battleground states of Ohio, Virginia and Florida, is troubling enough for the GOP. But, now the Republican nominee appears to be trailing President Barack Obama among a traditionally conservative constituency: NASCAR fans.
Obama leads Romney 49 to 42 percent among NASCAR enthusiasts, according to a new Zogby poll by JZ Analytics.
As the liberal blog PoliticusUSA.com pointed out, Romney was booed at the Daytona 500 in February during a campaign trip ahead of Super Tuesday.
[Also read: Romney says his campaign doesn't need a 'turnaround']
Per the New York Times:
The crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. "I like those fancy raincoats you bought," he said. "Really sprung for the big bucks." And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that "I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners."
NASCAR fans, though, have been known to boo politicians. Last fall, first lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's wife, were booed when they served as grand marshals at a race in Miami.
The online poll of 860 likely voters conducted on Sept. 21 and 22 also found that Obama leads Romney 54 to 40 percent among military families.
Among Catholics, the president's edge—46 to 44 percent—is within the poll's 3.4 percent margin of error. But among voters who "never attend a place of worship," Obama's lead over Romney is 63 to 26 percent.
[Related: New poll shows Obama leads Romney in swing states]
Among voters who identified themselves as "social networkers," Obama is ahead of Romney 55 to 33 percent.
Overall, the president leads the GOP challenger 49 to 41 percent, according to the poll. Obama has a head start of 14 points among independents (46 to 32 percent), 33 points among moderates (60 to 27 percent), 36 points among 18- to 29-year-olds (65 to 29 percent), and 42 points among Hispanics (68 to 26 percent).
Of the 103 likely voters who identified themselves as African-American, 96 said they would vote for Obama—with none indicating they would back Romney.
There are a few voting blocs that favor Romney, according to the poll. Among born-again Christians, Romney leads Obama 48 to 40 percent. The former Massachusetts governor held the same lead among rural voters. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart weekly, Romney is ahead of Obama 46 to 42 percent. And among those sympathetic to the tea party, Romney holds a 75 to 17 percent edge.



Ahahahahahahahahaha...the real polls have Romney by 8+ to 10+.

What polls are you reading, or what are you smoking? Everything I've seen has Obama up by at least 5%.
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#1365633 - 09/25/12 02:09 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: twocats
NASCAR fans favor Obama...

Obama leads Romney among NASCAR fans: Poll
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 9 hrs ago
Email
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President Obama poses with NASCAR driver Tony Stewart at the White House, April 17, 2012. (Getty)
Mitt Romney's recent slide in several polls, including those in the battleground states of Ohio, Virginia and Florida, is troubling enough for the GOP. But, now the Republican nominee appears to be trailing President Barack Obama among a traditionally conservative constituency: NASCAR fans.
Obama leads Romney 49 to 42 percent among NASCAR enthusiasts, according to a new Zogby poll by JZ Analytics.
As the liberal blog PoliticusUSA.com pointed out, Romney was booed at the Daytona 500 in February during a campaign trip ahead of Super Tuesday.
[Also read: Romney says his campaign doesn't need a 'turnaround']
Per the New York Times:
The crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. "I like those fancy raincoats you bought," he said. "Really sprung for the big bucks." And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that "I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners."
NASCAR fans, though, have been known to boo politicians. Last fall, first lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's wife, were booed when they served as grand marshals at a race in Miami.
The online poll of 860 likely voters conducted on Sept. 21 and 22 also found that Obama leads Romney 54 to 40 percent among military families.
Among Catholics, the president's edge—46 to 44 percent—is within the poll's 3.4 percent margin of error. But among voters who "never attend a place of worship," Obama's lead over Romney is 63 to 26 percent.
[Related: New poll shows Obama leads Romney in swing states]
Among voters who identified themselves as "social networkers," Obama is ahead of Romney 55 to 33 percent.
Overall, the president leads the GOP challenger 49 to 41 percent, according to the poll. Obama has a head start of 14 points among independents (46 to 32 percent), 33 points among moderates (60 to 27 percent), 36 points among 18- to 29-year-olds (65 to 29 percent), and 42 points among Hispanics (68 to 26 percent).
Of the 103 likely voters who identified themselves as African-American, 96 said they would vote for Obama—with none indicating they would back Romney.
There are a few voting blocs that favor Romney, according to the poll. Among born-again Christians, Romney leads Obama 48 to 40 percent. The former Massachusetts governor held the same lead among rural voters. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart weekly, Romney is ahead of Obama 46 to 42 percent. And among those sympathetic to the tea party, Romney holds a 75 to 17 percent edge.



Ahahahahahahahahaha...the real polls have Romney by 8+ to 10+.

What polls are you reading, or what are you smoking? Everything I've seen has Obama up by at least 5%.
Open your eyes and your shall see blind man!

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#1365641 - 09/25/12 02:43 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: Josephus]
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Romney Double Digit Lead?
Kyle Becker September 21, 2012 12:57 pm

The war of the polls gets a little wearisome for non-wonks, but we’ll keep this short and sweet. The mainstream media are rigging the polls. No headliner there, but just how bad is it? It could mean that Romney has as much as a double-digit lead of 54-44 in Realityville. How, you ask? Because the Democrats are fooling themselves in terms of likely voter party identification and voter enthusiasm.

An Ipsos/Reuters poll trumpets a five point lead for Barack Obama, and since the rest of the media keeps tight as a herd of cows before a thunderstorm, millions believe it. Such “rainmaking,” or using polls to make results instead of report them, is common in the pro-Democrat mainstream media.

But these polls are bogus, to put it mildly. Simply put, the mainstream media are mixing in registered voters (which skews Democrat, even though many might not vote), and playing games with the Republican-Democrat-Independent breakdown.

Rasmussen has this breakdown as about 37.6% Republican (and a record number since November 2002), 33.3% Democrat, and 29.2% “Other.” As the Examiner reports, the Reuters/Ipsos poll has “52.5 percent Democrats, 37.6 percent Republicans and 9.2 independents among the 2,078 registered voters and 1,437 likely voters.”

Thus, Reuters/Ipsos is oversampling Democrats by about 15% and undersampling and misrepresenting Independents. Independents are favoring Romney, not “leaning Democrat,” so it is dishonest to lump together Independents and Democrats.

Many more strongly disapprove of the president’s job in office than strongly approve, the majority dislike big government policies, and most believe the country is on the wrong track. More trust Mitt Romney on the economy, which is overwhelmingly this election’s most important issue, and the president’s lead on foreign policy is shriveling.

If anything, the presidential polling should be neck-in-neck. The only landslide here is the mainstream media’s reputation crumbling and their continued slide into irrelevance
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#1365649 - 09/25/12 03:05 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: cwjga]
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You do realize we are doing all this debating about President for the fun of it, don't you? We are not changing one voters mind. There is no one reading this who lives outside of NY state and NY is not a battleground state.

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#1365661 - 09/25/12 04:00 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: cwjga]
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Just who/what do you see as being included in the "mainstream media?" Everything other than Fox News? The problem with maligning everything that doesn't agree with the conservative position is that it seems to leave out the majority of America. And also suggests a belief in some huge conspiracy between news outlets -- hardly likely because of the competitive nature of the news business.

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#1365663 - 09/25/12 04:03 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga

Romney Double Digit Lead?
Kyle Becker September 21, 2012 12:57 pm

Who the heck is Kyle Becker?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/d...ry.html?hpid=z1

By Dan Balz and Jon Cohen, Updated: Tuesday, September 25, 8:00 AM

President Obama has grabbed a significant lead over Mitt Romney in Ohio and holds a slender edge in Florida, according to two new polls by The Washington Post, indicating that there are fresh hurdles in the way of the Republican challenger’s best route to victory in the Electoral College.

Among likely voters, Obama is ahead of Romney in Ohio 52 percent to 44 percent. In Florida, the president leads 51 percent to 47 percent, a numerical but not statistically significant edge. Among all registered Florida voters, Obama is ahead by nine percentage points.

The new numbers come one week after a Washington Post poll in Virginia showed Obama with a clear lead there. More than half of all money spent in the campaign has focused on these three states, and many analysts say Romney has to win two of the three to capture the White House.

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#1365665 - 09/25/12 04:09 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: kyle585]
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I wouldn't be so sure about no one reading this outside of NYS. There are lots of folks who maintain a residence here in the Finger Lakes, are registered to vote here, who are temporarily on assignment elsewhere, military or otherwise, and they like to keep up with the local news. But you're right in that NY isn't a state that's in play -- it will go for Obama. What's interesting is the role that voters in a few counties, even in a relatively small number of precincts, in a few "swing states" will play in the election. Think of it -- a few hundred voters in a couple of dozen counties will be the ones who elect the next president.

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#1365679 - 09/25/12 05:17 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: twocats
NASCAR fans favor Obama...

Obama leads Romney among NASCAR fans: Poll
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 9 hrs ago
Email
3
Print

President Obama poses with NASCAR driver Tony Stewart at the White House, April 17, 2012. (Getty)
Mitt Romney's recent slide in several polls, including those in the battleground states of Ohio, Virginia and Florida, is troubling enough for the GOP. But, now the Republican nominee appears to be trailing President Barack Obama among a traditionally conservative constituency: NASCAR fans.
Obama leads Romney 49 to 42 percent among NASCAR enthusiasts, according to a new Zogby poll by JZ Analytics.
As the liberal blog PoliticusUSA.com pointed out, Romney was booed at the Daytona 500 in February during a campaign trip ahead of Super Tuesday.
[Also read: Romney says his campaign doesn't need a 'turnaround']
Per the New York Times:
The crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. "I like those fancy raincoats you bought," he said. "Really sprung for the big bucks." And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that "I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners."
NASCAR fans, though, have been known to boo politicians. Last fall, first lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden, Vice President Joe Biden's wife, were booed when they served as grand marshals at a race in Miami.
The online poll of 860 likely voters conducted on Sept. 21 and 22 also found that Obama leads Romney 54 to 40 percent among military families.
Among Catholics, the president's edge—46 to 44 percent—is within the poll's 3.4 percent margin of error. But among voters who "never attend a place of worship," Obama's lead over Romney is 63 to 26 percent.
[Related: New poll shows Obama leads Romney in swing states]
Among voters who identified themselves as "social networkers," Obama is ahead of Romney 55 to 33 percent.
Overall, the president leads the GOP challenger 49 to 41 percent, according to the poll. Obama has a head start of 14 points among independents (46 to 32 percent), 33 points among moderates (60 to 27 percent), 36 points among 18- to 29-year-olds (65 to 29 percent), and 42 points among Hispanics (68 to 26 percent).
Of the 103 likely voters who identified themselves as African-American, 96 said they would vote for Obama—with none indicating they would back Romney.
There are a few voting blocs that favor Romney, according to the poll. Among born-again Christians, Romney leads Obama 48 to 40 percent. The former Massachusetts governor held the same lead among rural voters. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart weekly, Romney is ahead of Obama 46 to 42 percent. And among those sympathetic to the tea party, Romney holds a 75 to 17 percent edge.



Ahahahahahahahahaha...the real polls have Romney by 8+ to 10+.

What polls are you reading, or what are you smoking? Everything I've seen has Obama up by at least 5%.
Open your eyes and your shall see blind man!

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#1365810 - 09/26/12 08:56 AM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: Josephus]
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#1365811 - 09/26/12 09:06 AM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: Zealot]
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Romney's 'path to victory'?

Dream on.
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#1366102 - 09/27/12 08:52 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: Teonan]
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Here are a few more jobs.

Bureau Of Labor Statistics Revises Job Growth Upward By A Huge 386,000 Jobs
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(Image credit: AFP/Getty Images via @daylife)

As if to pile on to what may be the worst two week period a presidential campaign has ever suffered, Governor Mitt Romney has now lost one of the campaign’s key narratives.

Romney can no longer claim that President Obama’s first term in office has resulted in a loss of jobs.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics is out with its annual update to benchmark unemployment numbers (for the more cynical among you, the BLS does this every fall so this is not a number being ‘timed’ for the election), and the numbers reveal that 386,000 more non-farm jobs were actually created between March, 2011 and April 2012 than what had been originally reported.

The figures represent a variance from the previous data of 0.3 which sits right at the norm for annual benchmark adjustments which are typically up or down by 0.3 percent.

As a result of the revision, the Obama administration can now claim a net job increase of 125,000 rather than what had previously been believed to be a net loss of 261,000 jobs.

While this may not seem like a lot of jobs to show for the first four years of the Obama presidency, it must be remembered that an astonishing 4.316 million jobs were lost in the first 13 months of the Obama presidency—including 800,000 lost in the first month along—creating a hole that was virtually impossible to climb out of in four short years. The turn-around is not only something of a marvel but puts a significant crimp in the argument for a Romney presidency.

Alan Krueger, chairman of the President’ Council of Economic Advisors had this say:

“The revisions announced in today’s reports are a reminder that economic data are subject to large revisions. As a whole the pattern of revisions suggest that the recession that began at the end of 2007 was deeper than initially reported, and the jobs recovery over the last 2.5 years has been a bit stronger than initially reported, although much work remains to be done to return to full employment.”

While the upward revision does not impact on the sluggish job growth experienced during the summer months, there was more good news out today, in that regard, as we learn that individuals filing for unemployment benefits this week dropped by 26,000 to a seasonally adjusted 359,000—the best showing in two months. Better still, the four week average, the preferred indicator of job market trends, dropped 4,500 to 374,000 after rising for the past six weeks.

This milestone represents a significant number as many economist believe that the number had to drop below 375,000 to produce a lowered unemployment rate and it has now done so.
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#1366115 - 09/27/12 09:51 PM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: twocats]
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he numbers reveal that 386,000 more non-farm jobs were actually created between March, 2011 and April 2012 than what had been originally reported.

The figures represent a variance from the previous data of 0.3 which sits right at the norm for annual benchmark adjustments which are typically up or down by 0.3 percent.

As a result of the revision, the Obama administration can now claim a net job increase of 125,000 rather than what had previously been believed to be a net loss of 261,000 jobs.


If that's an 18 month period, there'd have to have been about 3.6 M net jobs gain just to keep up with population growth.

There will be no recovery; the economy's been hollowed out. Sure, there'll be ups and downs, but things are going to trend down for a long time.
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#1366145 - 09/28/12 06:14 AM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: twocats]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
Here are a few more jobs.

Bureau Of Labor Statistics Revises Job Growth Upward By A Huge 386,000 Jobs
+ Comment now

(Image credit: AFP/Getty Images via @daylife)

As if to pile on to what may be the worst two week period a presidential campaign has ever suffered, Governor Mitt Romney has now lost one of the campaign’s key narratives.

Romney can no longer claim that President Obama’s first term in office has resulted in a loss of jobs.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics is out with its annual update to benchmark unemployment numbers (for the more cynical among you, the BLS does this every fall so this is not a number being ‘timed’ for the election), and the numbers reveal that 386,000 more non-farm jobs were actually created between March, 2011 and April 2012 than what had been originally reported.

The figures represent a variance from the previous data of 0.3 which sits right at the norm for annual benchmark adjustments which are typically up or down by 0.3 percent.

As a result of the revision, the Obama administration can now claim a net job increase of 125,000 rather than what had previously been believed to be a net loss of 261,000 jobs.

While this may not seem like a lot of jobs to show for the first four years of the Obama presidency, it must be remembered that an astonishing 4.316 million jobs were lost in the first 13 months of the Obama presidency—including 800,000 lost in the first month along—creating a hole that was virtually impossible to climb out of in four short years. The turn-around is not only something of a marvel but puts a significant crimp in the argument for a Romney presidency.

Alan Krueger, chairman of the President’ Council of Economic Advisors had this say:

“The revisions announced in today’s reports are a reminder that economic data are subject to large revisions. As a whole the pattern of revisions suggest that the recession that began at the end of 2007 was deeper than initially reported, and the jobs recovery over the last 2.5 years has been a bit stronger than initially reported, although much work remains to be done to return to full employment.”

While the upward revision does not impact on the sluggish job growth experienced during the summer months, there was more good news out today, in that regard, as we learn that individuals filing for unemployment benefits this week dropped by 26,000 to a seasonally adjusted 359,000—the best showing in two months. Better still, the four week average, the preferred indicator of job market trends, dropped 4,500 to 374,000 after rising for the past six weeks.

This milestone represents a significant number as many economist believe that the number had to drop below 375,000 to produce a lowered unemployment rate and it has now done so.
contact Rick at thepolicypage@gmail.com and follow me on Twitter @rickungar



the Great Divider must be proud now.....keep the spin going.

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#1366189 - 09/28/12 10:18 AM Re: FOX News Poll [Re: SportsRef1]
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Here are the kinds of jobs being created:


Low-wage work force grows 30% as the number of jobs shrinks

http://www.suntimes.com/15379932-761/low-wage-work-force-grows-30-as-the-number-of-jobs-shrinks.html

Way to go oh great ruler!
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