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#1363089 --- 09/09/12 10:36 AM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch
Auburn rejected it as well. However they have a new proposal in conjunction with Cayuga County College to install such a field but have to raise about $5mil. Guess where that money will come from?

In about 8 years when Bracht field is looking sad and tired, it will then become apparent to local taxpayers how expensive it is to maintain such a field. You can't just "throw down a little seed" the whole field will have to be replaced. Guess where that money will come from?


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#1363091 --- 09/09/12 11:16 AM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch
Auburn rejected it as well. However they have a new proposal in conjunction with Cayuga County College to install such a field but have to raise about $5mil. Guess where that money will come from?

In about 8 years when Bracht field is looking sad and tired, it will then become apparent to local taxpayers how expensive it is to maintain such a field. You can't just "throw down a little seed" the whole field will have to be replaced. Guess where that money will come from?


In 8 years the appreciation of how its increased utility to hold more games and accommodate more teams will have demonstrated that it was worth it. Throwing down a little seed is not exactly all that has to be done to maintain a turf field not to mention that a turf field can't be used anywhere near as often as this new field will get used.

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#1363098 --- 09/09/12 12:18 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Projection is no way to live life Keep paying your taxes like a good American.


Edited by sox fan (09/09/12 12:21 PM)

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#1363183 --- 09/10/12 10:01 AM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: Ranger]
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Originally Posted By: Ranger
Every other school has been upgraded like this, so why should Mynderse be any different? Course now there's higher upkeep costs and maintenance. Will the State take on those costs, or is that left to the School District? I'm pretty sure I know what the answer to that is.


in either case it is still the taxpayer
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#1363184 --- 09/10/12 10:08 AM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: sox fan]
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Originally Posted By: sox fan
Who cares about taxes! its time to live in the now.


good
we will send you our school tax bills and you can cover them
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#1363230 --- 09/10/12 04:57 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: bluezone]
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When are you going to understand taxes are part of living in America. Of course we don't like them, but getting worked up about them is stupid. Every president says no new taxes, lower them them, never happens, ever! I guess its your right to complain about them, but your only alternative is to leave this country. No disrespect, just reality

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#1363257 --- 09/10/12 06:22 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: sox fan]
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Oh I understand, as do countless others. What this thread is about is the use of those tax monies. In many eyes the new football field is an extravagant waste of taxpayer money.

Paying taxes is one thing, no argument, but taxpayers must remain vigilant and speak out when those collecting and spending those funds are wasteful.

Leaving this country is not the only alternative, keeping a watchful eye and speaking out when one believes he is being overtaxed is another. This forum, as well as communicating your thoughts to the BOE is another. There also is the ballot box.

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#1363260 --- 09/10/12 06:31 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch
Oh I understand, as do countless others. What this thread is about is the use of those tax monies. In many eyes the new football field is an extravagant waste of taxpayer money.

Paying taxes is one thing, no argument, but taxpayers must remain vigilant and speak out when those collecting and spending those funds are wasteful.

Leaving this country is not the only alternative, keeping a watchful eye and speaking out when one believes he is being overtaxed is another. This forum, as well as communicating your thoughts to the BOE is another. There also is the ballot box.
The Voters did vote FOR the new fields. Them voting for it WAS communicating with the BOE

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#1363265 --- 09/10/12 06:44 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: potstirer]
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The school faculty and parents voted, a tough block to overcome. Total vote was what, less than 500 or so?

Again no argument, voter apathy is what it is. That does not not preclude people discussing this subject intending to influence perhaps more to scrutinize such proposals closely and take the time to voice their opinion.


The proposal was keyed in with worthwhile expenditures and it was either take one or reject all. Not much of a choice.

In my opinion, expending funds for this portion of the project was an extravangance and short sighted in view of the fact Waterloo and Seneca Falls will merge either voluntarily or by pressure from the State very shortly.

Some one mentioned they can have more games on this field now. Are they going to extend the football season? The markings on the field all seem to point to football.


Edited by grinch (09/10/12 06:45 PM)

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#1363266 --- 09/10/12 06:50 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: potstirer]
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Originally Posted By: potstirer
The Voters did vote FOR the new fields. Them voting for it WAS communicating with the BOE


and why did you and others vote for the village dissolution?

seems like a contradiction
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#1363268 --- 09/10/12 06:53 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: potstirer]
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Originally Posted By: potstirer
The Voters did vote FOR the new fields. Them voting for it WAS communicating with the BOE


tell all your younger family members that when medicare and social security run out of money that they can always use the field...

wasted money is wasted money
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#1363283 --- 09/10/12 07:36 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: potstirer
The Voters did vote FOR the new fields. Them voting for it WAS communicating with the BOE


and why did you and others vote for the village dissolution?

seems like a contradiction
Not a contradiction at all.... I voted to allow the expenditures from the Capital Reserve Fund with NO taxy levy increase.... Where is the contradiction you speak of ? Seems like money well spent to me.
How did you vote? OH that's right you don't live in MY district!!!!!!

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#1363302 --- 09/10/12 08:36 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch
The school faculty and parents voted, a tough block to overcome. Total vote was what, less than 500 or so?

Again no argument, voter apathy is what it is. That does not not preclude people discussing this subject intending to influence perhaps more to scrutinize such proposals closely and take the time to voice their opinion.


The proposal was keyed in with worthwhile expenditures and it was either take one or reject all. Not much of a choice.

In my opinion, expending funds for this portion of the project was an extravangance and short sighted in view of the fact Waterloo and Seneca Falls will merge either voluntarily or by pressure from the State very shortly.

Some one mentioned they can have more games on this field now. Are they going to extend the football season? The markings on the field all seem to point to football.


Boys and girls soccer are using the field as well as football right now, it is also marked for lacrosse.
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#1363308 --- 09/10/12 09:48 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: Carerinoa]
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Don't forget the youth programs as well. It will be well utilized by the entire community.

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#1363374 --- 09/11/12 03:56 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: grinch]
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Yeah, you can see the goal posts, thats football. Take a walk up to the field your tax money paid for, and look at the outlines for a lacrosse,soccer,field hockey fields. Get out of your car and appreciate what the field looks like, they won't raise your taxes for that.

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#1363401 --- 09/11/12 06:04 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: potstirer]
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Originally Posted By: potstirer
Not a contradiction at all.... I voted to allow the expenditures from the Capital Reserve Fund with NO taxy levy increase.... Where is the contradiction you speak of ?


will your school taxes go up for the $18 million spent?
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#1363425 --- 09/11/12 09:14 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: bluezone]
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No they will not.

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#1363451 --- 09/12/12 06:52 AM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: Family Man]
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and where does the $18 million come from?
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#1363514 --- 09/12/12 11:49 AM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Fart in the Wind
You probably did not understand.
There are 50 states.


are you sure you did not forget one?



If your referring to Puerto Rico...That is a common wealth of the U.S. it is not a state. It uses our currency but the residents do not pay federal taxes back into our country. It might as well be a state and taxed fairly like the rest, it would only help support the re-growth of our economy. On the other hand. the 18 Mil came from various sources and not all of it went to the field. The threads in the past explain where it came from and how it was spent.
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#1363523 --- 09/12/12 01:15 PM Re: 18 Million $$ for a football field!! [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
and where does the $18 million come from?
Do some research yourself for once and quit complaining about something that doesn't pertain to you....

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