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#1338941 - 04/16/12 10:38 AM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: Ayuveda]
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MeRightYouWrong
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Larry Silverstein
"We made the decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse."
Pulling is a term demolition crews use for taking down a building.
BBC reports Building 7 has collapsed 20 minutes before it collapses. Watch the video and you can see Building 7 still standing behind the reporter while she is reporting its collapse.
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#1339542 - 04/19/12 10:29 AM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: VM Smith]
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MeRightYouWrong
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Forget the soda cans. We should use Jenga to prove the WTC collapses. 
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#1339564 - 04/19/12 12:53 PM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: Hard Corps]
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VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
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How come the FBI never, even until the day he died, a decade later, had Osama on its "most wanted" list, for the WTC crime, bearing in mind that he was put on that list for the 1998 African embassy bombings? Why no indictment?
Those bombings happened in 8/98; he was indicted in 6/99. Why the difference? Why was he never indicted in a decade, for the far more serious, destructive, and intricately designed 9/11 crime? Considering the necessarily more complex plan and number of people involved, I'd think the FBI/DoJ would have found enough evidence to indict and put him on the list, and fairly quickly, too. They couldn't do it in 10 long years.
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The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it.
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#1339711 - 04/20/12 12:16 PM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: Hard Corps]
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Ayuveda
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Registered: 04/05/10
Posts: 6367
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Our government isn't and hasn't been working with the muslims to destroy this country and us Americans. The muslims are doing this all on their own.
Unfortunately it does.
Through outright aggression instilling hate, or secretive nefarious deeds - the American empire created the ugly narrative you've obviously bought into.
"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ." -- Pierre-Henri Bunel
The US government trained, armed, funded and supported Osama bin Laden
and his followers in Afghanistan during the cold war. With a huge
investment of $3,000,000,000 (three billion US dollars), the CIA effectively
created and nurtured bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network using American
tax-payers money. Afghanistan is one of the world's poorest countries,
where such an enormous sum sum of money would have had extraordinary
value.
ABC News article:
"In the 1980s, bin Laden left his comfortable
Saudi home for Afghanistan to participate in the
Afghan jihad, or holy war, against the invading
forces of the Soviet Union - a cause that,
ironically, the United States funded, pouring
$3 billion into the Afghan resistance via the CIA."
ABC News, "Osama Bin Laden: Profile of a Terror Leader", 20 March 2002.
[ http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/binladen_profile.html ]
BBC news article:
"...Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight
against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The
Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars
and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi
Arabia and Pakistan. He received security
training from the CIA itself."
BBC News, "Who is Osama Bin Laden?", 18 December 2002.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/155236.stm ]
Forbes business information service article:
"...[Osama bin Laden] received military and
financial assistance from the intelligence services
of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the United States."
Forbes, "Who Is Osama Bin Laden?" 14 September 2001.
[ http://www.forbes.com/charitable/2001/09/14/0914whoisobl.html ]
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#1339991 - 04/21/12 08:02 PM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: Hard Corps]
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VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
Posts: 34254
Loc: Reality
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Osama bin Laden was already #1 on the FBI's Most Wanted List. He couldn't go any higher no matter how many indictments.
You're missing the point entirely. Who cares about the other crime, in the context of this thread? I mentioned it only to show that, for a separate crime which killed 200 people, instead of 3,000, they had him on the list in 10 months. The FBI didn't indict him for the WTC because they couldn't. They said that there was insufficient evidence. For TEN YEARS, they couldn't find sufficient evidence. If they could have found sufficient evidence, they would indicted, and put it with his name on the list, with the other indicted for crimes.
It's simple: They put a PERSON on the list. It's a most wanted PERSON list, not a most wanted crime list. One person, one listing, with everything he's wanted for, even if he's been indicted for 1000 crimes. Jesus!
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The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it.
John Hay (1872)
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#1340009 - 04/21/12 08:40 PM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: VM Smith]
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Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 845
Loc: From Ga.
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Osama bin Laden was already #1 on the FBI's Most Wanted List. He couldn't go any higher no matter how many indictments. You're missing the point entirely. Who cares about the other crime, in the context of this thread? I mentioned it only to show that, for a separate crime which killed 200 people, instead of 3,000, they had him on the list in 10 months. The FBI didn't indict him for the WTC because they couldn't. They said that there was insufficient evidence. For TEN YEARS, they couldn't find sufficient evidence. If they could have found sufficient evidence, they would indicted, and put it with his name on the list, with the other indicted for crimes. It's simple: They put a PERSON on the list. It's a most wanted PERSON list, not a most wanted crime list. One person, one listing, with everything he's wanted for, even if he's been indicted for 1000 crimes. Jesus!
VM you got my support. Why because someone was on the take.
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#1340011 - 04/21/12 08:42 PM
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
[Re: VM Smith]
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Ayuveda
Senior Member
Registered: 04/05/10
Posts: 6367
Loc: Imagine
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[quote=VM Smith]
It's simple: They put a PERSON on the list. It's a most wanted PERSON list, not a most wanted crime list. One person, one listing, with everything he's wanted for, even if he's been indicted for 1000 crimes. Jesus!
"They put a PERSON on the list."
Exactly. One that may have been already dead.
Love him or hate him Alex Jones and Kurt Nimmo provide enough speculative evidence to give even the most Doubting Thomas reason to pause.
Osama bin Laden Has Been Dead For Years
Kurt Nimmo and Alex Jones
Infowars.com
May 2, 2011
CNN and the corporate media report this evening that purported CIA asset Osama bin Laden has been killed by the U.S. military in a mansion outside the Pakistani capital of Islamabad along with other family members.
In an address to the nation, Obama said he ordered the strike that allegedly killed Osama. The remainder of his speech followed the standard war on terror propaganda script.
A small team of Americans killed bin Laden in a firefight at a compound in Pakistan, the president said in a dramatic late-night statement at the White House, the Associated Press reported following Obama’s address.
Obama said the military took custody of his remains. It remains to be seen if the government will attempt to provide evidence that the remains are indeed those of Osama bin Laden.
“The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done,” said former president Bush. In 2006, Bush admitted that capturing Osama was not a top priority.
In February, 2004, Iranian state radio claimed Osama bin Laden had been captured in Pakistan’s border region with Afghanistan “a long time ago.” Pentagon and Pakistani officials denied the report. “Osama bin Laden has been arrested a long time ago, but Bush is intending to use it for propaganda maneuvering in the presidential election,” the radio report said.
Osama bin Laden died of kidney failure soon after the September 11, 2001, attacks. In 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said bin Laden had kidney disease, and that he had required a dialysis machine when he lived in Afghanistan. That same year, the FBI’s top counterterrorism official, Dale Watson, said, “I personally think he is probably not with us anymore.”
A Taliban leader told the Pakistan Observer on December 21, 2002, that Bin Laden was suffering from a serious lung complication and died in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief, according to Fox News.
Alex Jones was told live on the radio in 2002 by high-level Council on Foreign Relations members that Osama Bin Laden had died of kidney failure in early 2002.
“I have it from high level [sources] from inside the Bush administration…that bin Laden died of natural causes and that his family has given the body to the CIA, that they’re gonna roll him out right before the election, that he’s on ice right now. They will claim they killed him right before the election,” Alex said at the time.
“Jones gave a caution that the intelligence could be disinformation but claimed that his base in Austin was extremely close to the Bush administration and similar information received in the past had been credible,” Paul Joseph Watson wrote in August of 2002.
During the 2004 election, CNN reported that Democratic insiders had been told that George W. Bush was going to use the Bin Laden body as an ace-in-the-hole if he thought he was in danger of losing the 2004 election. This confirmed the evidence that Jones had been given by the CFR and others.
In 2003, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told Fox News Channel analyst Morton Kondracke she suspected Bush knew the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and was waiting for the most politically expedient moment to announce his capture.
Benazir Bhutto, who was killed in a suicide attack at the end of 2007, stated that Osama bin Laden had been killed by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, a man convicted of kidnapping and killing journalist Daniel Pearl.
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