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#1338770 - 04/15/12 08:34 PM 9/11 conspiracy
Rich_Tallcot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmbPh3u7_q0

9/11 conspiracy A bit over simplified, but food for thought.

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#1338786 - 04/15/12 08:59 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
twocats
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That was good.
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#1338798 - 04/15/12 09:30 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: twocats]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: twocats
That was good.
What do you believe?
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#1338802 - 04/15/12 09:37 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: twocats]
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Absolutely perfect! Thanks, Rich!
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#1338807 - 04/15/12 09:49 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: VM Smith]
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I remember 9/11. I was watching the news on TV after one of my chat groups alerted us to the first plane hitting the tower. I was so scared, but when the buildings went straight down, I thought that wasn't right. Why didn't they fall to the side destroying more buildings beside them? Nothing is that perfect in chaos is it?
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#1338808 - 04/15/12 09:56 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: WilllOWisp]
VM Smith
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And how about bldg 7, which went down just as perfectly, and hadn't been hit by a plane? How about the fact that no other steel-framed high rise, some of which have had much worse fires, has ever come down due to them? So, 3 in one day?
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#1338814 - 04/15/12 10:14 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: Chicago Jesus]
twocats
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: twocats
That was good.
What do you believe?

What do I believe?
I believe we were all lied to and we'll never know the truth.
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#1338837 - 04/15/12 10:37 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: twocats]
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I think we know enough so that another investigation is order, particularly since the 9/11 Commission says the administration lied to them, and one member quit because of that. I'd be surprised if another investigation is held any time soon, though. There are too many people still alive whose testimony could be very damaging to those who don't want it heard. I think Cheney, Shrub, and AIPAC know quite a bit about it.

Cui bono? Who stood to benefit from sucking the US into the Mid East?

Definition of CUI BONO
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: a principle that probable responsibility for an act or event lies with one having something to gain
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#1338843 - 04/15/12 10:43 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: VM Smith]
twocats
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IOW, follow the money.
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#1338861 - 04/15/12 11:01 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: twocats]
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#1338871 - 04/15/12 11:51 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
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Stand on an empty soda can then tap one side with you finger -- you will go straight down. No trick. No conspiracy. Just science. It is a game most of us played as a kid.

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#1338872 - 04/15/12 11:53 PM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: PO'ed Moderate]
MeRightYouWrong
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Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
Stand on an empty soda can then tap one side with you finger -- you will go straight down. No trick. No conspiracy. Just science. It is a game most of us played as a kid.


Shall we call you Professor?

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#1338875 - 04/16/12 12:04 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
Rich_Tallcot
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Excellent. Unfortunately the clip is so long even though it needs to be to get the point across.
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#1338922 - 04/16/12 09:32 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: twocats]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: twocats
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Originally Posted By: twocats
That was good.
What do you believe?

What do I believe?
I believe we were all lied to and we'll never know the truth.
Let me get this straight, you believe in the 9/11 conspiracy?
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#1338929 - 04/16/12 09:46 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: PO'ed Moderate]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
Stand on an empty soda can then tap one side with you finger -- you will go straight down. No trick. No conspiracy. Just science. It is a game most of us played as a kid.

Ahahahahahahaha... you can't do that anymore. The cans are make of Aluminum not tin!
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#1338931 - 04/16/12 10:00 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: PO'ed Moderate]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
Stand on an empty soda can then tap one side with you finger -- you will go straight down. No trick. No conspiracy. Just science. It is a game most of us played as a kid.


Comparing the structural integrity of a soda can with that of the WTC in your 'scientific' analogy?

Wow...
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#1338932 - 04/16/12 10:05 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: Chicago Jesus]
MeRightYouWrong
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Not to mention the can is only a few inches tall, not 70+ stories tall. When you're talking about 70+ stories, even a tiny fraction of an inch toward one side would topple the structure over. The fact that three buildings collapsed completely into their own footprints is virtually impossible because all the supports would have had to have snapped at exactly the same time, meaning the first floor that fell would've had to have been completely level as it collapsed onto the floor below it, which would've then had to have had its supports all snap at the same exact time, allowing that floor to fall perfectly level down into the next, for all 70+ floors.

Then there is building 7 that collapsed, though nothing hit it.

Then you have jet fuel, which doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel but supposedly did. The jet fuel would've burned up very quickly, so the only materials supplying the flames that weakened the steel would be office furniture, plastics, and many other things that burn cooler than jet fuel.

Then you have to consider the Pentagon, the world's most heavily protected military HQ, that allowed a plane to crash into it. When Payne Stewart's jet failed to reply to air traffic control there were fighter jets sent immediately to intercept it. Why did it not happen on 9/11?

Then you have to consider that it was public information that Bush was in that school in Florida that morning. Yet, the Secret Service let him remain in the school for half an hour after it was known the country was under attack. Somehow the Secret Service knew the school would not be a target or they would've, and should've, gotten him out of there as quick as possible.

Then you have a skyscraper in Madrid that was a raging inferno that burned for more than 24 hours and did not collapse. In fact, no steel-frame building has ever collapsed due to fire. but on 9/11 we saw three of them do the impossible.

I don't know, the more I think of things the more I'm convinced I'm not being told the truth. Questions are not allowed to be asked on this topic. We're supposed to let the government investigate itself, return a verdict that they had no foresight or complicity, and accept it as fact. That would be like if we had let Nixon investigate Watergate. I wonder how that verdict would've turned out.

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#1338934 - 04/16/12 10:15 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
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The jet fuel would've burned up very quickly,


The fires had nearly burned out when the 1st 2 collapses occurred. If we apply a little parsimony to the whole day's events, then the official government-floated conspiracy theory just doesn't add up.
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#1338936 - 04/16/12 10:21 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
VM Smith
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I'm convinced I'm not being told the truth.


We're supposed to be citizens, but we're treated like mushrooms.
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#1338937 - 04/16/12 10:24 AM Re: 9/11 conspiracy [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong

I don't know, the more I think of things the more I'm convinced I'm not being told the truth. Questions are not allowed to be asked on this topic. We're supposed to let the government investigate itself, return a verdict that they had no foresight or complicity, and accept it as fact.



The Warren Commission Report on the JFK Assassination, The 9/11 Commission Report - inside jobs whitewashed for public consumption.

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