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#1337348 - 04/09/12 05:16 PM
very disappointed in seneca falls town board
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Town Resident
Member
Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 184
Loc: Seneca Falls
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I hate to beat a dead horse, but I have to disagree with our town board allowing our police chief to drive a seneca falls police car to and from his house in syracuse every day. That is a slap in the face to the hard-working town residents. If he lived in the town, I would be totally fine with it, but this is outrageous. This is our police car with our fuel.
This town board was doing good in my opinion, but this was a mistake. The paper did not disclose what board members voted and how they voted, but I would like to find out. I understand our chief needs to respond out of his house at times, but he lives in syracuse. Kind of defeats the purpose in this dumb old man's opinion.
Our chief should live here, but now he gets to live in syracuse and drive to and from on our dime. Amazing.
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#1337362 - 04/09/12 06:28 PM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: Town Resident]
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educated voter
Member
Registered: 08/29/11
Posts: 117
Loc: ny
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Another sfpd thread haha. I heard that chief stew was driving the car home then the board yelled at him and now they okay it. This board is crazy and will let "our" police department do whatever it wants.
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#1337419 - 04/10/12 06:01 AM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: 123]
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educated voter
Member
Registered: 08/29/11
Posts: 117
Loc: ny
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Pretty close to the city, but the point is simple. He is our chief and should live here. Instead, he lives almost two counties away and commutes in our taxpayer funded car. I don't believe it is right. This new sfpd has been full of problems since the start. My mind is made up.
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#1337439 - 04/10/12 11:45 AM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: Jseemore]
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ProAct
Senior Member
Registered: 07/19/10
Posts: 1192
Loc: New York State, Seneca County
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Believe he lives in Sennett, near Auburn. Yes, I also believe he should live here in SF. Also, did this not occurr under the old Board - changing residency requirements for the position of Chief SFPD?
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#1337444 - 04/10/12 11:55 AM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: ProAct]
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sassyone
Silver Member
Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 11377
Loc: Seneca Falls,NY,
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Hell of a difference between Sennett and Syracuse.
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#1337462 - 04/10/12 01:11 PM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: Jseemore]
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VM Smith
Diamond Member
Registered: 11/28/05
Posts: 34290
Loc: Reality
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The voters have spoken, and the majority are obviously happy that the old board is gone; I think the Same. The new board would do well to do some damage remediation and change this particular situation.
I don't necessarily think that the PC should be required to live in the town; you want the widest selection of applicants practically possible, in order to get good personnel.
It would also be discrimination to require the PC to live in SF, unless all other town employees are also required to live in the town. IDK, but I think that's not the case. IOW, just because he's a supervisor doesn't make the essential principle any different than it is regarding any other town employee.
But, I draw the line at providing personal transportation for the Chief; if he wants the job, and if he chooses to take a job in a place relatively far from home, or to establish a home in a place far from work, then he should be required to figure out how to get to work on his own dime.
In this case, even the old excuse saying, "Well, he's on patrol from the moment he leaves his house." is even more baloneysome than usual, because he's not paid to be a cop in those other counties.
And since that's the case, and to illustrate the absurdity of the unnecessary, featherbed perk, then why not ditch the cruiser and provide a limo, so he can ride to work in style? Nothing but the best for our boys 'n girls in blue, because they protect us against criminals, terrorists, Godless commies, and...uhmnn...oh, yeah...bats. Criminal, terroristic, Godless commie bats, no doubt. Maybe the new motto should be "To serve and exterminate household pests". Don't laugh; pest extermination is a great career booster; just look at what it did for Tom Delay. 
Edited by VM Smith (04/10/12 01:41 PM)
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The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it.
John Hay (1872)
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#1337484 - 04/10/12 02:39 PM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: VM Smith]
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ProAct
Senior Member
Registered: 07/19/10
Posts: 1192
Loc: New York State, Seneca County
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Funny and true.
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#1337502 - 04/10/12 03:55 PM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: Greymane]
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VM Smith
Diamond Member
Registered: 11/28/05
Posts: 34290
Loc: Reality
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I would have to respectfully disagree on this point, VM. I do believe that the position of CoP has responsibilities that should make it a requirement for the applicant to be "readily available" in certain circumstances.
Good point, sir, but is the department's organization so weak, and the other personnel so incompetent, that there are no others qualified to stand in for him temporarily, immediately and ably, in the relatively rare event of an emergency? I don't think that's any more true in any decent PD than it is on an aircraft carrier, when the Captain is OOC. And it's not as if we're discussing a 2 man squad, in Mayberry, say; it does seem that they have at least enough people. At least... 
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The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it.
John Hay (1872)
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#1337518 - 04/10/12 04:33 PM
Re: very disappointed in seneca falls town board
[Re: Town Resident]
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ExVillager
Member
Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 94
Loc: NY
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"I have a problem with the police chief living outside the community," said William Sweeting, referring to interim police chief Stuart Peenstra, who lives east of Auburn in the town of Sennett, Cayuga County. "We pay him and he can't even support the community that pays him by residing in the town."
Incoming board member Emil Bove said the police chief should live in the village. He said local residency requirements for the chief should not be imposed now but later, saying there likely will be a referendum to decide if the town wants to have a police department.
Robert Wayne also objected.
"The police chief will not get to know the people. This would allow the entire police department to live outside the community. If there is an emergency, it would take a long time to get here," he said. "They should at least be required to live in the county."
Look at the spins they put on things. Mr. Wayne on one hand is worried about the response time, Sennett is 16 miles away, but he wants the Chief to live in the county, Lodi is 23 miles away.... Lets see how long it takes him and his brother to start another petition. They are just planting seeds at the moment hoping they grow....
I don't see him complaining about his 2009 - $107,000 salary, his 2010 - $110,000 or his 2011 - $108,000 that the State Taxpayers front him... not bad for a $65,000/yr base salary
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