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#1337050 - 04/07/12 08:47 PM
Re: will it go on
[Re: PY tax Payer]
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McLovin'
Senior Member
Registered: 05/02/09
Posts: 1247
Loc: In the land of freedom
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1) How many volunteers did the PYFD have in 2000 when PY's LOSAP was passed, and how many are there now. It is my understanding the number have dropped a lot. (I could be wrong, but that is what I've heard) If LOSAP was to entice new members, It think it hasn't work.
Also, I believe the state wanted the point system to be almost uniform across the state so that if a firefighter mover from one part of New York to another the points would follow him/her and the system would be similar.
The volunteers firefighters from every fire department in the state has to deal with gas prices, being taken away from dinners, or those 3 AM calls. How many departments have LOSAP in the state? Branchport/Keuka Park does not. Himrod does not. Dresden does not. Dundee does, and they follow the state's point system, they have their board approve the list on time.
2) I agree that it is not healthy to have a majority of the Village Board as firefighters. As a Trustee and a firefighter it must be very difficult not to be bias when making a decision about the Fire Department.
In two years firefighters Mayor Church, Trustee Winslow and Trustee Allison's seats will be up for re-election. There will also be Trustee Dave Reeve's seat will be up. Plenty of time to find candidates.
3) I'm not sure a second Article 78 will be filed. If it is, I hope the Judge rules on the Merit of the program.
If it goes towards the Village--good--the fire department has been following the law/rules.
If it go against the Village there needs to be an answer to other questions---what happens next? Will the fire fighters who didn't qualify in certain years lose that credit? Will the firefighter who are being paid monthly lose their monthly checks? Will the whole Program be done away with? And most important---Will the fire fighters sue the Village?
4) Does anyone know when the filing of the new Article 78 needs to be done by if there is going to be one?
Edited by McLovin' (04/08/12 01:17 AM)
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The PY Village Board is too LIBERAL with OUR money!
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#1337092 - 04/08/12 06:22 AM
Re: will it go on
[Re: McLovin']
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outlet
Member
Registered: 03/04/12
Posts: 125
Loc: penn yan ny
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1) How many volunteers did the PYFD have in 2000 when PY's LOSAP was passed, and how many are there now. It is my understanding the number have dropped a lot. (I could be wrong, but that is what I've heard) If LOSAP was to entice new members, It think it hasn't work.
Also, I believe the state wanted the point system to be almost uniform across the state so that if a firefighter mover from one part of New York to another the points would follow him/her and the system would be similar.
The volunteers firefighters from every fire department in the state has to deal with gas prices, being taken away from dinners, or those 3 AM calls. How many departments have LOSAP in the state? Branchport/Keuka Park does not. Himrod does not. Dresden does not. Dundee does, and they follow the state's point system, they have their board approve the list on time.
2) I agree that it is not healthy to have a majority of the Village Board as firefighters. As a Trustee and a firefighter it must be very difficult not to be bias when making a decision about the Fire Department.
In two years firefighters Mayor Church, Trustee Winslow and Trustee Allison's seats will be up for re-election. There will also be Trustee Dave Reeve's seat will be up. Plenty of time to find candidates.
3) I'm not sure a second Article 78 will be filed. If it is, I hope the Judge rules on the Merit of the program.
If it goes towards the Village--good--the fire department has been following the law/rules.
If it go against the Village there needs to be an answer to other questions---what happens next? Will the fire fighters who didn't qualify in certain years lose that credit? Will the firefighter who are being paid monthly lose their monthly checks? Will the whole Program be done away with? And most important---Will the fire fighters sue the Village?
4) Does anyone know when the filing of the new Article 78 needs to be done by if there is going to be one? Yes, by the 18 of April and two will be filed.
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#1337250 - 04/09/12 10:18 AM
Re: will it go on
[Re: yatesgirl]
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molly rose
Member
Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 92
Loc: USA
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#1. members of the fire dept. #2. can`t be answered. #3 can`t be answered. #4. can`t be answered. No one now on the board can answer. I see that trustee allison was elected to the board in the spring of that year.I see that he abstained from the vote.
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#1337252 - 04/09/12 10:28 AM
Re: will it go on
[Re: rj1]
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molly rose
Member
Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 92
Loc: USA
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I never saw anyplace where it was called a salary. You call them thieves. Robbery ? Oh, thats right, the DA. and comptroller do not know their jobs either. They did not find it true yet you bh, and all your other identities on here call it what you do because you did not get the answer you wanted. Where do you get off ?
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#1337261 - 04/09/12 10:57 AM
Re: will it go on
[Re: molly rose]
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PY tax Payer
Member
Registered: 07/24/11
Posts: 84
Loc: Penn Yan, NY USA
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You have it right molly sue..... thanks
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#1337300 - 04/09/12 12:41 PM
Re: will it go on
[Re: PY tax Payer]
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Outsidelookingin
Member
Registered: 09/13/11
Posts: 198
Loc: NY
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She certainly does!!
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#1337407 - 04/09/12 11:21 PM
Re: will it go on
[Re: outlet]
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Outsidelookingin
Member
Registered: 09/13/11
Posts: 198
Loc: NY
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Stick a fork in BH, he's done No Jihad here! We will protect the one's who protect us!
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#1337422 - 04/10/12 06:44 AM
Re: will it go on
[Re: yatesgirl]
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Outsidelookingin
Member
Registered: 09/13/11
Posts: 198
Loc: NY
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Did BH cut and paste and send to you, (note above)? Only someone with an enormous amount of free time on their hands would care about the nonsense above.
I also heard Trustee Winslow said the Yankees where going to win the pennant in 2002, did they?
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#1337436 - 04/10/12 11:22 AM
Re: will it go on
[Re: yatesgirl]
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molly rose
Member
Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 92
Loc: USA
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You missed it.Yes, those people are still around that were on the VB, so what ? The VB did question the people that were involved. BH did not. VFIS was instrumental in developeing it.Again, it was not done to rip anybody off. The system worked to benefit the community, and those that qualified. Don`t throw away everything because of a procedure error by the VB. This is a vendetta, because someones feelings got hurt and he did not get his way.
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