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#1340864 - 04/25/12 08:44 PM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
Get Real People
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Registered: 02/26/12
Posts: 55
Loc: Seneca Falls NY
Nope sorry im not a cop, i just prove everytime you lie on here about the town cops i can tell the truth about the county sheriff's....
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#1340876 - 04/25/12 09:03 PM Re: SFPD [Re: VM Smith]
Dr. Sarcassm Esq
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Registered: 03/03/12
Posts: 418
Loc: Seneca Falls
The new trio gave away the gas, the car and the residency rule.
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#1340881 - 04/25/12 09:08 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
Posts: 34332
Loc: Reality
One government isn't generally exchanged for another made of Boy Scouts and Einsteins, even though even though enough voters can be convinced of that so that the change is made, with much hope; it's still government, and the incubus still does what it does.
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#1340906 - 04/25/12 09:54 PM Re: SFPD [Re: VM Smith]
outwithsfpd
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Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 116
Loc: Seneca Falls, NY
This is not a personal attack on the police department. It is a personal attack on the unfair way an unnecessary service was forced upon taxpayers without so much as a vote. I am sure you understand, officer.
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#1340930 - 04/25/12 10:42 PM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
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Quote:
It is a personal attack on the unfair way an unnecessary service was forced upon taxpayers without so much as a vote.


That is also the basis of my personal attack on the PD (I don't feel the need to enlist a posse before I speak out), which is not at all the same as an attack on its personnel.
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#1340988 - 04/26/12 05:48 AM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
ExVillager
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Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 94
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: outwithsfpd
This is not a personal attack on the police department. It is a personal attack on the unfair way an unnecessary service was forced upon taxpayers without so much as a vote. I am sure you understand, officer.
You sound just like the Indians you detest so much , C.O.

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#1341120 - 04/26/12 03:45 PM Re: SFPD [Re: ExVillager]
Dr. Sarcassm Esq
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Loc: Seneca Falls
No personal attacts allowed. Part of the FL1 Agreement.
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#1341137 - 04/26/12 04:56 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
Posts: 34332
Loc: Reality
I meant an attack by me, personally, on an agency, and not any of its included persons, as opposed to, say, a drone strike. I am guilty of misusing the word. I knew I was doing so, but got a little too cute, and imprecise, in trying to make a distinction.

But, a personal attack has, by definition, to be against a person. If it's against an agency, it's not a personal attack. An ad hominem attack is usually called a personal attack

I think this is useful:

Ad Hominem , "against the person"

Description: Reverse of the Appeal to Authority . The Ad Hominem argument rejects an idea based on who subscribes to or promotes it. It is also more commonly called a "personal attack"; instead of attacking the argument or position, the arguer is attacked. Note that all personal attacks are not fallacious. Sometimes the personal character of person does matter in an argument. For example, the fact that a politician is a known white collar criminal may just be relevant to a discussion of his re-election, even though that does not, in and of itself, invalidate the bill (his ideas) he has just introduced.

Example: "I hear that the Texas senate passed a bill allowing the building of a governor's chapel in Austin. Texans sure are dumb."

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Ad Hominem-circumstantial

Description: Form of Ad Hominem . This is a case where the argument is rejected, not on the personality of an opponent but, on some circumstances which supposedly makes the arguer an unreliable source. While it is extremely important to understand the point of view of the person presenting an argument, where a person comes from, their social and economic situation and background, or even education level, these things do not directly effect the quality of the argument itself.

Example: "Hey, I hear our governor was once homeless. How could a homeless person know how to balance a budget, more less a multi-million dollar one?"
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#1341147 - 04/26/12 05:50 PM Re: SFPD [Re: 123]
Town Resident
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Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 184
Loc: Seneca Falls

just why? Isn`t there a 2nd in command when the chief isn`t right on the spot? I hope so! [/quote]

Yes there is a 2nd in command when the Chief is not available.. I
talked to a friend yesterday who told me that he was told by Sgt Snyder that he is 2nd in command when the Chief is not there. He said that is why he wears a white shirt and the rest of the sgts wear blue one. Sgt. Tim is capable as 2nd in charge.

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#1341830 - 04/30/12 07:22 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Town Resident]
outwithsfpd
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Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 116
Loc: Seneca Falls, NY
I was wondering why he wears a white shirt. Is he still a sargent or is he something else now?
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#1341997 - 05/01/12 06:54 PM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
Thaymez
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Registered: 04/06/12
Posts: 52
Loc: Seneca Falls NY
Originally Posted By: back again
Good!! How about a new position of unemployment. The sheriffs and troopers can more then cover the area . They can be parking police, bc the only thing they dont screw up is writing simple traffic tickets.


Oh this is great hahaha

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#1342188 - 05/02/12 05:27 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Thaymez]
Town Resident
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Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 184
Loc: Seneca Falls
I read in the paper the results are in for police chief. whoever the new chief is, I certainly hope he/she will be required to live in the Town that pays his/her salary. Enough of this small town nonsense. We pay the freight, the train should be parked in our Town and not another County. But, we will see if the Town Board has the guts to make a tough decision if Chief Stu is the chosen one.
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#1342287 - 05/03/12 07:30 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Town Resident]
Bambino
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Registered: 09/09/07
Posts: 86
Loc: Little Italy
bottom line his salary goes to another county to be spent .and he contributes nothing to the tax base which pays for his dept ,sucks .
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#1342297 - 05/03/12 08:58 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Town Resident]
Jseemore
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Registered: 12/01/11
Posts: 252
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: Town Resident
I read in the paper the results are in for police chief. whoever the new chief is, I certainly hope he/she will be required to live in the Town that pays his/her salary. Enough of this small town nonsense. We pay the freight, the train should be parked in our Town and not another County. But, we will see if the Town Board has the guts to make a tough decision if Chief Stu is the chosen one.

FTR I am neither a proponent nor opponent of the PD, but thought it ironic you made the statement "enough of this small town nonsense" ...quite a juxtaposition really.
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#1342406 - 05/03/12 05:32 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Jseemore]
The REAL SF HERO
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Registered: 04/22/12
Posts: 247
Loc: Seneca Falls
Well, if you cannot say you are for the SFPD then you are against them.
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#1342415 - 05/03/12 06:20 PM Re: SFPD [Re: The REAL SF HERO]
Town Resident
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Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 184
Loc: Seneca Falls
Hey, whadda know, I saw first hand that 119 car running radar on East Bayard Street extension - thank you deputy for keeping us safe down here in the Town, cuz the PD sure ain't gettin it done catching the speeders - in fact its mostly them speedin - guess they arent used to driving over 30. thank you, thank you, thankyou. Come on down Statie's help us out too.. I honked as I went by and he waved, unlike the mush face PD's
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#1342446 - 05/03/12 09:39 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Town Resident]
Ambient
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Registered: 02/07/05
Posts: 147
Loc: Seneca Falls
Nice to see someone's policing, Town Resident. Now, if they'd just start cracking down on the speeding tractor trailers who don't belong on the street to begin with. I'm starting to believe with some others here that the SFPD has outlived its usefulness. Allowing unhindered speeding, oversize trucks, hot-rodding etc... diminishes the quality of life for all who live in the area.
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