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#1335725 - 04/01/12 06:38 AM Re: SFPD [Re: anncramer]
back again
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Registered: 02/23/12
Posts: 259
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: anncramer
Good post, potstirer. What back again described involved the Sheriff's Dept, not the SFPD.
Back again, if you are going to level accusations or bring up past court cases, at least get the name of the law enforcement agency involved correct ! BTW, the word "cop" usually refers to a Police Officer; so the correct word in your examples would have been "Deputy".....The court cases involved Deputies, not Cops.
Ann Cramer \:\(


Ok well i clearly never said that these events were of the current sfpd doing. I said cops around here. Also if ya check back a sfpd cop was relieved of duty and transfered to waterloo for having adult relations in his cruiser with female he pulled over.

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#1335738 - 04/01/12 09:11 AM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
cwanky
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Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 196
Loc: new york
Profile of the Sociopath

(Subtitle there is a rotten pizza in the trunk)


back again post #1335669

Apparently you arent to familiar with cops around here and all they take. Ranging from free booze, to sexual favors from females in town and county owned vehicles. To vending machine, guns and drugs from evidence lock ups. And lets not forget free tires on the tax payer dime, gas and the list goes on and on. Aroun d here being a cop is like a license to steal. And this post shouldnt be edited or erased due to the fact that all the events listed above have been documented in the press and court proceedings over the past 5-6 years.

back again post #1335725
Ok well i clearly never said that these events were of the current sfpd doing. I said cops around here. Also if ya check back a sfpd cop was relieved of duty and transfered to waterloo for having adult relations in his cruiser with female he pulled over.


Edited by cwanky (04/01/12 09:11 AM)

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#1335739 - 04/01/12 09:16 AM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
potstirer
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 304
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: back again
Ok well i clearly never said that these events were of the current sfpd doing. I said cops around here.

You IMPLIED SFPD when you said cops around here..... If you want to be correct it is none of the current SCSD either....


Edited by potstirer (04/01/12 09:18 AM)

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#1335821 - 04/01/12 03:45 PM Re: SFPD *DELETED* [Re: potstirer]
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#1335829 - 04/01/12 04:52 PM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
Top Dog
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Posts: 1524
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Cops don't "transfer" from Seneca Falls to Waterloo.
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#1335837 - 04/01/12 05:57 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Top Dog]
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Posts: 259
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Yeah well about 8 years ago this cop was "transferred" . If we could say names on this forum i would but there are rules and im sick of making new accounts..
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#1335847 - 04/01/12 06:52 PM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
Top Dog
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Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 1524
Loc: On the Dog House.
Sounds like a bad problem to have.
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#1335913 - 04/02/12 09:54 AM Re: SFPD [Re: anncramer]
VM Smith
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The court cases involved Deputies, not Cops.


Not many remarks leave me almost speechless, because, at my age, one tends to think he's seen nearly everything. I'll just say that it's astounding that anyone could actually believe the above. What are Sheriff's deputies, then? Airline pilots? Accountants? Morticians?
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But I'll stand my ground and I won't back down

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#1335919 - 04/02/12 10:19 AM Re: SFPD [Re: VM Smith]
MeRightYouWrong
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Posts: 1478
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Hahahaha. He was referring to only Deputies. Not cops, policemen, or officers. Only Deputies.
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#1335961 - 04/02/12 02:30 PM Re: SFPD [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
123
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Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 845
Loc: From Ga.
Damn I always thought a deputy was a COP?
So just what are they,please splain?
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#1335999 - 04/02/12 04:51 PM Re: SFPD [Re: 123]
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Registered: 02/23/12
Posts: 259
Loc: ny
If a dputy isnt a cop, then a police office is not a cop either, then a trooper isnt a cop, or a police, or a deputy... then y exactly do we have the term cop.
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#1336535 - 04/04/12 06:26 PM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
yeahwhatever
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 9
Loc: new york, seneca county
if you feel the need for the town police force to exist along with state troopers, sherifs, DEC and Park police all in the same area then you got something wrong. why spend so much money over-paying the town police when the job can easily be done by other departments. Half the officers now would probably be hired anyways. people are more concerned that the town cops won't have jobs and that they're good people. well its not about them...sorry. keeping a town police force is going to do nothing but raise taxes in the future and we can avoid that by getting rid of them now.
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#1336547 - 04/04/12 07:50 PM Re: SFPD [Re: yeahwhatever]
potstirer
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 304
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: yeahwhatever
if you feel the need for the town police force to exist along with state troopers, sherifs, DEC and Park police all in the same area then you got something wrong. why spend so much money over-paying the town police when the job can easily be done by other departments.
WHATEVER... I guess that MANY people have "something wrong" with them. Look at all the other towns, villages, cities, etc with their own Police forces.... Using your example, there is no need for anyone other Police force other than the State Police. BTW, I'm pretty sure that it can't be done easily by other departments.

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#1336615 - 04/05/12 12:58 AM Re: SFPD [Re: potstirer]
yeahwhatever
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 9
Loc: new york, seneca county
well theres not really any DEC or park police in cities and seneca falls doesn't have a village so there goes two of the three. what am i suppose to look at? the other towns that don't have their own police forces because they don't have a village? because thats all there is. it can be done easily by other departments if the same funding is put forward to it. it may be a process but well worth it
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#1336814 - 04/06/12 05:55 AM Re: SFPD [Re: yeahwhatever]
potstirer
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 304
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: yeahwhatever
well theres not really any DEC or park police in cities and seneca falls doesn't have a village so there goes two of the three. what am i suppose to look at? the other towns that don't have their own police forces because they don't have a village?
I know SF does't have a Village, and YES DEC and Park Police drive through Cities, just like they drive through Seneca Falls. Cities are in NY State which are in the DEC's and Park Police patrol areas, they don't drive down the road and stop at city limit sign and turn around. There are numerous other Towns that have a PD. Once again, Probably an ex-townie who complained about the Villagers forcing "them" to pay more tax due to the dissolution, but wants to do the same by having SCSD hire more deputies which the whole county will have to pay for.....

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#1336820 - 04/06/12 07:52 AM Re: SFPD [Re: potstirer]
wanabe
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Registered: 03/29/07
Posts: 225
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: potstirer
Originally Posted By: yeahwhatever
well theres not really any DEC or park police in cities and seneca falls doesn't have a village so there goes two of the three. what am i suppose to look at? the other towns that don't have their own police forces because they don't have a village?
I know SF does't have a Village, and YES DEC and Park Police drive through Cities, just like they drive through Seneca Falls. Cities are in NY State which are in the DEC's and Park Police patrol areas, they don't drive down the road and stop at city limit sign and turn around. There are numerous other Towns that have a PD. Once again, Probably an ex-townie who complained about the Villagers forcing "them" to pay more tax due to the dissolution, but wants to do the same by having SCSD hire more deputies which the whole county will have to pay for.....


The whole county would have been paying all along if there never was a SFPD. The way I see it is the former village has been and now the entire town is subsidizing the county. We don't need the SFPD, they are a burden to the tax payers. I keep bringing up the example of the town of Victor (about the same population as Seneca Falls). Their closer to Rochester and have a major mall within it's town limits. They don't have a local police force and there is no anarchy in the streets.


Edited by wanabe (04/06/12 07:53 AM)

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#1336826 - 04/06/12 08:33 AM Re: SFPD [Re: wanabe]
cwanky
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Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 196
Loc: new york


The whole county would have been paying all along if there never was a SFPD. The way I see it is the former village has been and now the entire town is subsidizing the county. We don't need the SFPD, they are a burden to the tax payers. I keep bringing up the example of the town of Victor (about the same population as Seneca Falls). Their closer to Rochester and have a major mall within it's town limits. They don't have a local police force and there is no anarchy in the streets. [/quote]


Well heck fire why didn't we enjoy your wisdom 186 years ago, better yet why do you still get your mail at 13148, Victor has a lt to offer go west young man.
By the way here is some info on Victor, and it is not about the money it is about the management


VICTOR TOWN FACTS
County Ontario
Zip Code – 14564
Population – 10,128
Area – 36 square miles

GOVERNMENT IN VICTOR
Type of Government – Elected Town
Supervisor & Board
Annual Budget – $12 million
Highest Elected Official – Town Supervisor
Town Hall Address
85 E. Main Street, Victor, NY 14564

TAXES
Local Property Tax Rate (per thousand) – $1.17
Tax Assessment Ratio – 100%
Total Property Valuation. $1,010,887,750
– Residential $547,222,450
– Commercial $215,817,500
– Other $247,847,800

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#1336829 - 04/06/12 09:03 AM Re: SFPD [Re: cwanky]
Town Resident
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Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 184
Loc: Seneca Falls
Well, this town board with the exception of a couple is headed in the right direction. Victor is a great model for us to go by. Keep listening to the taxpayers, don, emil, and tj. Bravo!!!
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#1336887 - 04/06/12 02:37 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Town Resident]
yeahwhatever
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Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 9
Loc: new york, seneca county
someones a little cwanky
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#1336899 - 04/06/12 03:57 PM Re: SFPD [Re: wanabe]
potstirer
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 304
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: wanabe
I keep bringing up the example of the town of Victor (about the same population as Seneca Falls). Their closer to Rochester and have a major mall within it's town limits. They don't have a local police force and there is no anarchy in the streets.
Using Victor as an example JUSTIFIES a need for SFPD .The crime index is higher in SF than Victor so OBVIOUSLY there is a need for the SFPD....

http://www.clrsearch.com/Victor_Demographics/NY/Crime-Rate?compare=13148

2010 Crime Rate Indexes
.................Victor....Seneca Falls
Crime Risk ------20 --------- 13
Murder Risk -----13 --------- 29
Rape Risk -------26 --------- 29
Robbery Risk -----4 ---------- 6
Assault Risk -----10 --------- 31
Burglary Risk ----23 --------- 10
Larceny Risk ---- 44 --------- 31
Auto Theft Risk---2 ---------- 2

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