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#1334897 - 03/26/12 01:53 PM Re: SFPD [Re: DeReRustica]
Sammi
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Registered: 03/03/11
Posts: 31
Loc: seneca 		We are 3 hard working taxpayers and fully support the SF police dept. Whatever the chief is asking for is what he needs to protect all of us. The chief is a great guy and is working super hard to meet the needs of the community. Go talk with him like we have...he is the REAL DEAL!
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#1334976 - 03/27/12 06:41 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Sammi]
Ranger
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Loc: GOD's 1/2 acre 		Let's try not to make this about personalities. The Village dissolved because of the tax burden imposed upon them, plain and simple. Now they are trying to spread the expense out upon the Town at Large. The Town wasn't given the option of voting whether or not we wanted additional police protection, which many if not most didn't want or need. Now the department wants to expand to meet the area. So where is the savings the Villagers sought by dissolving, if the Department is going to increase? Almost sounds like it wants to be doubled. This is purely financial in my mind. Let's try to keep it that way. This point has been expressed before, but still others try to make this out to be personal.
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#1334984 - 03/27/12 08:47 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Ranger]
Ambient
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Loc: Seneca Falls 		Seems to me that before any action is taken there should be a bit of research involving the other law enforcement agencies as well as the SFPD to determine what degree of policing is projected. The result might be better cooperation between the Troopers (Ugh!), Park Police, Sheriff and SFPD to map out coverage patterns etc. The results of the research should be publicized. Then a determination should be made with public input about SFPD staffing and equipment. Without that type of research, no qualified decision can be made.
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#1334986 - 03/27/12 09:08 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Ambient]
Town Resident
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Loc: Seneca Falls 		park police - real easy - stay in the damn parks and tend to campfires. stay off the highways - if i call for a cop i dont want no darn park rangers. why is it they are allowed to roam all over the roads not near parks. most of them are wannabee's who couldnt get a real police job.
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#1334988 - 03/27/12 09:38 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Town Resident]
Dizzyt
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Registered: 03/09/12
Posts: 925
Loc: NY 		What an ignorant Post. NYS DEC have full police status. They can arrest you just the same as any other law enforcement office. Their office focuses on environmental illegal activity.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/2744.html

http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/746.html

Try watching some of the Poaching shows that air on NATGEO and see what they deal with and the ignorant people that kill animals illegally, just to kill and then leave them all over to rot.

Edited by Dizzyt (03/27/12 09:40 AM)
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#1334998 - 03/27/12 11:26 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Dizzyt]
deadphilosopher
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Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 17
Loc: New York 		Actually the Park Police are not part of the DEC. They are part of the NYS Parks, Recreation, and Historic Preservation.

http://nysparks.com/employment/park-police/default.aspx
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#1335004 - 03/27/12 11:45 AM Re: SFPD [Re: deadphilosopher]
Ambient
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Registered: 02/07/05
Posts: 147
Loc: Seneca Falls 		The Park Police are State Police. Same academy, training and authority.
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#1335034 - 03/27/12 03:48 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Dizzyt]
123
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Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 845
Loc: From Ga.
Originally Posted By: Dizzyt
What an ignorant Post. NYS DEC have full police status. They can arrest you just the same as any other law enforcement office. Their office focuses on environmental illegal activity.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/2744.html

http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/746.html

Try watching some of the Poaching shows that air on NATGEO and see what they deal with and the ignorant people that kill animals illegally, just to kill and then leave them all over to rot.


That`s correct 100%. Dec officers are SP with a specialty so they are one step ahead of a SP officer.Trust me I`m the Dr. and know
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#1335038 - 03/27/12 04:10 PM Re: SFPD [Re: 123]
deadphilosopher
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Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 17
Loc: New York 		I knew that use to be the case for Park police but wasn't sure if that still held true.
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#1335057 - 03/27/12 06:10 PM Re: SFPD [Re: Ambient]
potstirer
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 304
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: Ambient
The Park Police are State Police. Same academy, training and authority.
They are State Park Police not State Police. They have their own training academy and are trained differently than the State Police. They receive snowmobile operation, basic boat operation, rope rescue as well as Park and Recreation law. They actually have more training than the SP but are paid far less.....
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#1335063 - 03/27/12 07:26 PM Re: SFPD [Re: potstirer]
outwithsfpd
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Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 116
Loc: Seneca Falls, NY 		Then maybe we would be better off with the park police patrolling our town. It's not personal, it's business. They say stew is a good guy, but that should not matter. It is about our taxes, our voice, and our future for our families. We deserve to vote and deserve to have a say. I voted for you, don earl.
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#1335083 - 03/28/12 05:43 AM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
potstirer
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Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 304
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: outwithsfpd
Then maybe we would be better off with the park police patrolling our town..... I voted for you, don earl.
You really think they have time to patrol the old Village and Town? They would have to hire many more Officers to patrol "our" area. They are too busy with their Park issues to be bothered with "Bob's" complaint about people driving too fast down Lower Lake rd. I voted for Don Earl also and say KEEP THEM.
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#1335094 - 03/28/12 08:03 AM Re: SFPD [Re: potstirer]
outwithsfpd
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Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 116
Loc: Seneca Falls, NY 		Well they have time to "patrol" burger king EVERYDAY.
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#1335095 - 03/28/12 08:09 AM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
outwithsfpd
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Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 116
Loc: Seneca Falls, NY 		Simple point: put some sfpd officers in sheriff cars and save a ton of money. Nothing would change. A couple sfpd flunkies would be unemployed and there are a few that should be. stoo should be forced to move here also but don earl is sitting on his hands. Don, you are acting like pete. No more votes for you.
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#1335100 - 03/28/12 09:04 AM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
back again
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Registered: 02/23/12
Posts: 259
Loc: ny 		If they need new cars why dont we just buy them ferraris. I mean we want the people protecting us to not only have new cars wouldnt we want them to have the best of the best..
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#1335105 - 03/28/12 09:26 AM Re: SFPD [Re: outwithsfpd]
Get Real People
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Registered: 02/26/12
Posts: 55
Loc: Seneca Falls NY 		Funny, i have lived here for seven years and never had seen a Town cop there ever...can't say the same for State Park Police who are there everyday...
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#1335106 - 03/28/12 09:29 AM Re: SFPD [Re: back again]
Get Real People
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Registered: 02/26/12
Posts: 55
Loc: Seneca Falls NY 		We can't do that cause we would REALLY have to listen to you whine...blah blah blah SFPD blah blah blah can't afford my taxes blah blah blah I have nothing important to say blah blah blah
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#1335107 - 03/28/12 09:35 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Ranger]
Get Real People
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Registered: 02/26/12
Posts: 55
Loc: Seneca Falls NY 		Again with the Town Police and Taxes, People you live in New York everything cost money GET A CLUE....Right now nobody even knows the cost to have them but yet let's cry about it because we have nothing better to do.......Get A Life...
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#1335109 - 03/28/12 09:40 AM Re: SFPD [Re: Get Real People]
wanabe
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Registered: 03/29/07
Posts: 225
Loc: NY 		With a 2% tax cap where is the funding for all these new officers and equipment coming from? As soon as the town board tries to exceeds the tax cap I think you will see people stirred into action.
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#1335114 - 03/28/12 10:56 AM Re: SFPD [Re: wanabe]
Rooster Cogburn
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Registered: 01/17/11
Posts: 436
Loc: Fort Smith
Originally Posted By: wanabe
With a 2% tax cap where is the funding for all these new officers and equipment coming from? As soon as the town board tries to exceeds the tax cap I think you will see people stirred into action.


I hope so, adding officers will nullify the cost savings we were looking for.

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