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#1330629 - 03/07/12 12:37 PM Unreal!
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We are all in shock over the allegations against Tom S out in Canandaigua! We are sick to our stomachs.
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#1330631 - 03/07/12 12:39 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: Sketch]
back again
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Yeah try the ontario county forums for this ontario county topic.
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#1330635 - 03/07/12 01:02 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: back again]
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i agree, backagain. however, I would still like to comment...this doesn't appear to be Tom S.'s first time.

"Kadien added that further charges of a similar nature are anticipated. These additional charges stem from a similar alleged incident with a different 15-year-old girl"
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#1330645 - 03/07/12 01:29 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: back again]
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Originally Posted By: back again
Yeah try the ontario county forums for this ontario county topic.


I did consider this option, but having know Tom from several years back during our schooldays, we simply cannot believe it. We all wish it were untrue.

I did see the news coverage, and understand that another student may have been propositioned in some fashion. I have a daughter a year older than the victim, so it raises concerns.
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#1330646 - 03/07/12 01:30 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: pepper]
talula13
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Why you in shock, because of his last name???
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#1330661 - 03/07/12 01:46 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: talula13]
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Originally Posted By: talula13
Why you in shock, because of his last name???


I'm unsure of your intent here. Tom was a great kid.
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#1330664 - 03/07/12 01:55 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: Sketch]
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Thomas Spina
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#1330717 - 03/07/12 06:08 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: tubby]
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I think that if you really knew Tom then you would give him the benefit of the doubt. I honestly don't believe it, there just has to be some explanation. I know it sounds bad, but it makes absolutely no sense. He has a daughter the same age at that same school, why in the world would he do that. I say there is more to this story, at least I hope there is.
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#1330718 - 03/07/12 06:14 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: matsar]
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Originally Posted By: matsar
I think that if you really knew Tom then you would give him the benefit of the doubt. I honestly don't believe it, there just has to be some explanation. I know it sounds bad, but it makes absolutely no sense. He has a daughter the same age at that same school, why in the world would he do that. I say there is more to this story, at least I hope there is.


IF he indeed did it, then you'd have to ask him why. It never makes any sense. Of course, complaints have been known to be false, before. Everyone will just have to wait and see.
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#1330744 - 03/07/12 07:58 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: matsar]
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Originally Posted By: matsar
I think that if you really knew Tom then you would give him the benefit of the doubt. I honestly don't believe it, there just has to be some explanation. I know it sounds bad, but it makes absolutely no sense. He has a daughter the same age at that same school, why in the world would he do that. I say there is more to this story, at least I hope there is.


Why do any sex offenders do it? More to the story? Do you mean like the young Girls (bc it is plural complainants now) were asking for it? I really hope thats not what you were implying.

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#1330785 - 03/07/12 09:33 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: back again]
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I just don't believe it's true and I am totally basing that on the fact I have known Tom since we were kids. If I am wrong then I will be the first to admit it. If this is true it will the most shocked I have been in my entire life. It just can't be.
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#1330787 - 03/07/12 09:34 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: back again]
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Yep, Always because he/she was a "nice" a person, or if only you knew that person...hmmm but DO YOU REALY KNOW that person. Has to be some other reason why, never the offenders fault....Oh I am sure the girls were asking for it was the reason why..right?
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#1330793 - 03/07/12 09:46 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: talula13]
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Just like the little league coach who was convicted of a sex crime from july 2010 for having forcible sex with his sons girlfriend, and forcibly touching her friend on two diff occasions? I love how people are like omg i never would of thought, theyare so nice and seemed so normal. News flash thats there job is to blend in u think they want to walk around with a shirt on that says hey im a pedophile lets hang out? No ,,,
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#1330795 - 03/07/12 10:00 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: back again]
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It is unfortunate that the news portrays it the way they do, and notes biases based on their opinions of what the texts might have meant. In all reality, a joke with inappropriate language can be used as sexual harassment. What I do know of the accused, is that he has a huge heart, and has always been willing to help others out. He works in a vulnerable position, and it is possible that some of the things he is accused of were taken out of context, but unfortunately, everyone want to judge already without all the facts.
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#1330796 - 03/07/12 10:02 PM Re: Unreal! [Re: back again]
talula13
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Exactly
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#1330811 - 03/08/12 04:14 AM Re: Unreal! [Re: matsar]
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Originally Posted By: matsar
I just don't believe it's true and I am totally basing that on the fact I have known Tom since we were kids. If I am wrong then I will be the first to admit it. If this is true it will the most shocked I have been in my entire life. It just can't be.


Coach B at SU had known Bernie Fine for 40+ years...it doesn't mean Bernie didn't have eye for the ball boys!
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#1330813 - 03/08/12 04:26 AM Re: Unreal! [Re: roofclimber]
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Originally Posted By: roofclimber
It is unfortunate that the news portrays it the way they do, and notes biases based on their opinions of what the texts might have meant. In all reality, a joke with inappropriate language can be used as sexual harassment. What I do know of the accused, is that he has a huge heart, and has always been willing to help others out. He works in a vulnerable position, and it is possible that some of the things he is accused of were taken out of context, but unfortunately, everyone want to judge already without all the facts.


Seeing how he works in a *vulnerable position* like you claim.... That is even MORE reason NOT to befriend or text the students MALE or FEMALE!!!!

for those who were as confused as me here is the article

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012303060024
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#1330843 - 03/08/12 09:09 AM Re: Unreal! [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Originally Posted By: roofclimber
It is unfortunate that the news portrays it the way they do, and notes biases based on their opinions of what the texts might have meant. In all reality, a joke with inappropriate language can be used as sexual harassment. What I do know of the accused, is that he has a huge heart, and has always been willing to help others out. He works in a vulnerable position, and it is possible that some of the things he is accused of were taken out of context, but unfortunately, everyone want to judge already without all the facts.


Seeing how he works in a *vulnerable position* like you claim.... That is even MORE reason NOT to befriend or text the students MALE or FEMALE!!!!

for those who were as confused as me here is the article

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012303060024


Absolutely true Teed! Do you happen to know Tom? We knew him in school. I personally cannot believe it, but stranger things have surely happened. People change over time, and things happen that drive some individuals to make very bad choices. The girl stated that he was asking her to move in with him, and he was giving her all kinds of gifts. Of course, that means he wants to eventually bed her.
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#1330880 - 03/08/12 10:45 AM Re: Unreal! [Re: Sketch]
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dont judge what you dont know. in fact it could be your family next! this guy has lost a job, a mother, a father all in the same year. lets not even think that maybe some personal issues at home might be going on. he has given to society for years and has a family. all the gossip in the world doesnt put the answers or facts in your hands. some of you calling radio stations should not throw rocks when your homes are made of glass. good luck to tom spina and his wife and children. i hope its not what has been protrayed, although the damage has been done.
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#1330889 - 03/08/12 11:18 AM Re: Unreal! [Re: #1defender]
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Unfortunately, the news is not too promising. Police will not provide such details to news outlets unless they have the evidence at hand. We continue to pray.
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