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#1337646 - 04/11/12 07:02 AM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
DeadDave
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
Originally Posted By: DeadDave
Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5
Strangely, I was going to ask you the same question


Hypocrite!


You better be careful. He might tell you he obtained your IP address through these forums and now knows where you live. If he does, ignore it. He's a phoney.

I hope he's not hooked up with one of my ex's ...

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#1337660 - 04/11/12 08:47 AM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: DeadDave]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: DeadDave
Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
Originally Posted By: DeadDave
Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5
Strangely, I was going to ask you the same question


Hypocrite!


You better be careful. He might tell you he obtained your IP address through these forums and now knows where you live. If he does, ignore it. He's a phoney.

I hope he's not hooked up with one of my ex's ...


Aren't they all in jail on solicitation charges?
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#1338603 - 04/15/12 10:21 AM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Chicago Jesus]
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Another election year and another surge in gas prices. What are you voters going to do about it?
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#1338876 - 04/16/12 12:18 AM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Hard Corps]
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http://www.GasBuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?city1=USA Average&city2=Canada Average&city3=&crude=y&tme=96&units=us


Interesting how when Pres. Bush was in office, Democrats said he was to blame and the Republicans said it was the market. Now in 2012, Republicans are saying it is Pres. Obama's fault and the Democrats have reversed as well by blaming the market.

The President as little control over the retail price of gasoline. Easy to see when you compare the average price in the US, average price in Canada and the average price for crude.

edit: Link only sort of worked. Add in Canada, click the crude oil price and then go to the eight year interval. Sorry that the whole link didn't work as intended.


Edited by PO'ed Moderate (04/16/12 12:21 AM)

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#1338894 - 04/16/12 07:19 AM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: PO'ed Moderate]
sands
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Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
The President as little control over the retail price of gasoline.



Exactly! How can canceling leases on federal lands in Utah, suspending them in Montana, delaying them in Colorado and Utah, canceling lease sales off the Virginia coast, stopping offshore drilling, blocking ANWAR, and rejecting the Keystone Pipeline effect the retail price of gasoline?

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#1338951 - 04/16/12 12:18 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: sands]
Cuzi Sedso
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How much would all that influence the world price of oil? May drive down refined gasoline by as much as 3 cents per gallon?
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#1338953 - 04/16/12 12:28 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Cuzi Sedso]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: Cuzi Sedso
How much would all that influence the world price of oil? May drive down refined gasoline by as much as 3 cents per gallon?



Shamus O'Bama has a lot of influence on the price of oil. With all the worthless money he has printed up, he's making our worthless dollars even more worthless!


Edited by Chicago Jesus (04/16/12 01:15 PM)
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#1338967 - 04/16/12 02:12 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Chicago Jesus]
MeRightYouWrong
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Shamus O'Bama has a lot of influence on the price of oil. With all the worthless money he has printed up, he's making our worthless dollars even more worthless!


That is a valid point to make because when more money is printed up, the spending power goes down. It's known as inflation. It is taking more dollars to buy the same things because the Federal Reserve has printed trillions of dollars in recent years. the economic "boom" in the 80's, under Reagan, was a result of the same thing. The government borrowed more money, it went into circulation, and people thought they were richer because they had more dollars in their pockets. Then the inflation caught up and we had the recession of the 90's.

Years ago, when the price of gold was starting to go up, I asked a friend if it was a result of the value of gold going up or the value of the dollar going down. Naturally, his cluelessness said it was the value of gold going up. to this day he still doesn't get it.

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#1338969 - 04/16/12 02:17 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Shamus O'Bama has a lot of influence on the price of oil. With all the worthless money he has printed up, he's making our worthless dollars even more worthless!


That is a valid point to make because when more money is printed up, the spending power goes down. It's known as inflation. It is taking more dollars to buy the same things because the Federal Reserve has printed trillions of dollars in recent years. the economic "boom" in the 80's, under Reagan, was a result of the same thing. The government borrowed more money, it went into circulation, and people thought they were richer because they had more dollars in their pockets. Then the inflation caught up and we had the recession of the 90's.

Years ago, when the price of gold was starting to go up, I asked a friend if it was a result of the value of gold going up or the value of the dollar going down. Naturally, his cluelessness said it was the value of gold going up. to this day he still doesn't get it.

No such thing as inflation in the Shamus O'Bama's economic model.
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#1338970 - 04/16/12 02:24 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Chicago Jesus]
MeRightYouWrong
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I agree. To our government, inflation equals bigger and better economy simply because more dollars are floating around.
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#1338975 - 04/16/12 02:47 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
I agree. To our government, inflation equals bigger and better economy simply because more dollars are floating around.


Some time in the future the interest rate will have to go up to get the toilet paper money off the street.
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#1338977 - 04/16/12 02:51 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Chicago Jesus]
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They will get the paper money off the street by forcing us into becoming a cashless society. At that point nobody will really know how much money is out there or its true value. The whole world's "wealth" will be digits in a database while the bankers will own all the real assets.
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#1338984 - 04/16/12 03:12 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
They will get the paper money off the street by forcing us into becoming a cashless society. At that point nobody will really know how much money is out there or its true value. The whole world's "wealth" will be digits in a database while the bankers will own all the real assets.

What countries have gone with paperless money?
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#1338987 - 04/16/12 03:16 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: Chicago Jesus]
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No countries have gone cashless yet. It would be pretty hard to convince the majority of people to trust their wealth in the form of digits in a database. But, as with all things, they will take baby-steps until it gets implemented.

As it is, we almost live in a cashless society. We can swipe a card for any purchases. About the only things left that cash is predominantly used for are gambling, prostitution, and drugs. I wouldn't be surprised if it is that tidbit they use to justify going cashless.

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#1338993 - 04/16/12 03:31 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
No countries have gone cashless yet. It would be pretty hard to convince the majority of people to trust their wealth in the form of digits in a database. But, as with all things, they will take baby-steps until it gets implemented.

As it is, we almost live in a cashless society. We can swipe a card for any purchases. About the only things left that cash is predominantly used for are gambling, prostitution, and drugs. I wouldn't be surprised if it is that tidbit they use to justify going cashless.
I was thinking Norway or Sweden went paperless, but I don't know for sure?
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#1339084 - 04/16/12 09:27 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
sands
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Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong
About the only things left that cash is predominantly used for are gambling, prostitution, and drugs.



Most bribes and ransoms are still paid in cash. I also like to leave tips in cash even if I pay the bill with a credit or debt card.

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#1339090 - 04/16/12 10:12 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: sands]
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Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
The President as little control over the retail price of gasoline.



Exactly! How can canceling leases on federal lands in Utah, suspending them in Montana, delaying them in Colorado and Utah, canceling lease sales off the Virginia coast, stopping offshore drilling, blocking ANWAR, and rejecting the Keystone Pipeline effect the retail price of gasoline?


So why were the gas prices higher under Pres. Bush?

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#1339101 - 04/16/12 11:26 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: PO'ed Moderate]
sands
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Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
The President as little control over the retail price of gasoline.



Exactly! How can canceling leases on federal lands in Utah, suspending them in Montana, delaying them in Colorado and Utah, canceling lease sales off the Virginia coast, stopping offshore drilling, blocking ANWAR, and rejecting the Keystone Pipeline effect the retail price of gasoline?


So why were the gas prices higher under Pres. Bush?


The national average price of regular unleaded was $1.83 per gallon on the day Obama was inaugurated. Gas tonight was $4.14 a gallon. Of course that's after Obama's "hope and change" started to "fundamentally transform America".

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#1339107 - 04/16/12 11:46 PM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: sands]
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Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: PO'ed Moderate
The President as little control over the retail price of gasoline.



Exactly! How can canceling leases on federal lands in Utah, suspending them in Montana, delaying them in Colorado and Utah, canceling lease sales off the Virginia coast, stopping offshore drilling, blocking ANWAR, and rejecting the Keystone Pipeline effect the retail price of gasoline?


So why were the gas prices higher under Pres. Bush?


The national average price of regular unleaded was $1.83 per gallon on the day Obama was inaugurated. Gas tonight was $4.14 a gallon. Of course that's after Obama's "hope and change" started to "fundamentally transform America".



National average in July 2008 under Pres. Bush $4.12

National average today under Pres. Obama $3.87

Lots of things to blame on current administration but gas prices are yet another distraction from the extreme fringe, either Right or Left. Until you look at real problems, you will continue to be distracted by shiny objects while the rich get richer.

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#1339111 - 04/17/12 12:34 AM Re: Gas Prices Grow More Under Jimmy Obama [Re: PO'ed Moderate]
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Until you look at real problems, you will continue to be distracted by shiny objects while the rich get richer.


What are the real problems?
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