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#1332949 - 03/16/12 02:20 PM

Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]

Zealot
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Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5

Since approximately 22% of total world petroleum consumption is based here in our country, I believe we shoulder some responsibility in term of global energy efficiency

I agree - we should tap into some of the 1.5 trillion barrels that we have on our own land. We should supply our own needs leaving what the rest of the world produces to be used by those countries that don't have their own abundant supply. That would be the only sensable and considerate thing to do.

Edited by Zealot (03/16/12 02:22 PM)

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#1332958 - 03/16/12 02:40 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Zealot]
Fingerlakes5 Fingerlakes5 Member Registered: 01/19/12 Posts: 377 Loc: global	Originally Posted By: Zealot Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Since approximately 22% of total world petroleum consumption is based here in our country, I believe we shoulder some responsibility in term of global energy efficiency I agree - we should tap into some of the 1.5 trillion barrels that we have on our own land. We should supply our own needs leaving what the rest of the world produces to be used by those countries that don't have their own abundant supply. That would be the only sensable and considerate thing to do. Asian Highways America's Highway _________________________ How can you have a war on terrorism when war itself is terrorism? Howard Zinn
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#1333002 - 03/16/12 03:28 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Zealot]
cwjga cwjga Senior Member Registered: 11/06/08 Posts: 3699 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By: Zealot Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Since approximately 22% of total world petroleum consumption is based here in our country, I believe we shoulder some responsibility in term of global energy efficiency I agree - we should tap into some of the 1.5 trillion barrels that we have on our own land. We should supply our own needs leaving what the rest of the world produces to be used by those countries that don't have their own abundant supply. That would be the only sensable and considerate thing to do. But drilling for our own oil would not make a difference for another 5 years. Wait didn't they use that arguement 5 years ago? $;\)$ Guess it would have started making a difference now, to bad Obama is making less production available. _________________________ "Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." Calvin Coolidge
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#1333026 - 03/16/12 03:51 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]
Zealot Zealot Senior Member Registered: 07/29/08 Posts: 1888 Loc: Yates	Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Originally Posted By: Zealot Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Since approximately 22% of total world petroleum consumption is based here in our country, I believe we shoulder some responsibility in term of global energy efficiency I agree - we should tap into some of the 1.5 trillion barrels that we have on our own land. We should supply our own needs leaving what the rest of the world produces to be used by those countries that don't have their own abundant supply. That would be the only sensable and considerate thing to do. Asian Highways America's Highway Sucks to be them! When the come up with a scooter that can pull a travel trailer, carry two adults, two children, and a dog, then maybe I will try it out. _________________________ "The best argument against Democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter" - unknown
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#1333043 - 03/16/12 05:23 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: cwjga]
twocats twocats Silver Member Registered: 02/09/10 Posts: 10731 Loc: NYS	Avoid facts at all costs. _________________________ Dismiss whatever insults your own soul. Walt Whitman
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#1333045 - 03/16/12 05:47 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: twocats]
Fingerlakes5 Fingerlakes5 Member Registered: 01/19/12 Posts: 377 Loc: global	Originally Posted By: twocats Avoid facts at all costs. Well how do you expect the GOP to win if they are force to use facts? $;\)$ _________________________ How can you have a war on terrorism when war itself is terrorism? Howard Zinn
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#1333070 - 03/16/12 09:38 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]
sands sands Senior Member Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 6005 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Well how do you expect the GOP to win if they are force to use facts? $;\)$ Wow! Posting graphs with no source and calling them facts really is fun! $;\)$
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#1333071 - 03/16/12 09:40 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]
Zorn Zorn Senior Member Registered: 09/06/06 Posts: 1376 Loc: ny	http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/opinion/krugman-natural-born-drillers.html?_r=1&ref=opinion "For the truth is that we’re already having a hydrocarbon boom, with U.S. oil and gas production rising and U.S. fuel imports dropping. If there were any truth to drill-here-drill-now, this boom should have yielded substantially lower gasoline prices and lots of new jobs. Predictably, however, it has done neither." _________________________ "I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security". - Tea Party Member
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#1333076 - 03/16/12 09:55 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: sands]
Fingerlakes5 Fingerlakes5 Member Registered: 01/19/12 Posts: 377 Loc: global	Originally Posted By: sands Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Well how do you expect the GOP to win if they are force to use facts? $;\)$ Wow! Posting graphs with no source and calling them facts really is fun! $;\)$ Playing little kiddie games can always be fun as well http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/25/news/economy/oil_drilling_gas_prices/index.htm http://www.plugincars.com/increasing-dom...ces-107081.html http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=us&v=88 _________________________ How can you have a war on terrorism when war itself is terrorism? Howard Zinn
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#1333106 - 03/16/12 10:50 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]
sands sands Senior Member Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 6005 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Playing little kiddie games can always be fun as well http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/25/news/economy/oil_drilling_gas_prices/index.htm http://www.plugincars.com/increasing-dom...ces-107081.html http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=us&v=88 If you say so http://www.policymic.com/articles/5379/high-gas-prices-are-president-obama-s-fault/category_list http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/03/16/obama-owns-gas-prices http://abcnews.go.com/watch/world-news-w...oblem-for-obama http://www.journal14.com/2012/03/15/sena...es-faultpart-2/ http://blog.beaumontenterprise.com/think/2012/03/16/should-obama-be-blamed-for-high-gas-prices/
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#1333119 - 03/16/12 11:39 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: twocats]
VM Smith VM Smith Diamond Member Registered: 11/28/05 Posts: 34290 Loc: Reality	Originally Posted By: twocats Avoid facts at all costs. It's well known that Shrub failed disastrously at every business he tried, requiring the Spook's friends to bail him out. There was no reason to think that oil production wouldn't follow the same pattern just because he'd been selected President. _________________________ The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. John Hay (1872)
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#1333120 - 03/16/12 11:52 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: sands]
mimi33 mimi33 Member Registered: 01/30/02 Posts: 423 Loc: seneca falls, ny, usa	I think it's interesting that based on a rumor that the government was going to tap into the oil reserves, oil prices dropped on the futures markets. if you insist that the price of oil is controlled by one person, wow, that's just crazy. no one sane could possibly believe that one person had sole control of oil prices. if you don't understand how the markets work, it's easy to research. maybe you should do some research and educate yourself before your blame the price of commodities on one individual. is obama in control of corn, soybeans, milk, and everything on the futures markets, or just oil? i mean, really, get a a grip on yourself. you give this one person too much power. oh, and sorry for the lack of capitals, just not feeling it right now.
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#1333122 - 03/17/12 12:33 AM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: mimi33]
sands sands Senior Member Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 6005 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By: mimi33 is obama in control of corn, soybeans, milk, and everything on the futures markets, or just oil? Obama canceled leases on federal lands in Utah, suspended them in Montana, delayed them in Colorado, canceled lease sales off the Virginia coast, stopped offshore drilling, blocked ANWAR, and rejected the Keystone Pipeline. What has he done for the corn, soybean, and milk market?
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#1333689 - 03/19/12 04:17 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: sands]
Chicago Jesus Chicago Jesus Senior Member Registered: 01/16/12 Posts: 6126 Loc: Cocktails with Regie and Tiger	_________________________ Liberty anywhere is a threat to Collectivism everywhere. Remember.... Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl
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#1333702 - 03/19/12 05:37 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: sands]
VM Smith VM Smith Diamond Member Registered: 11/28/05 Posts: 34290 Loc: Reality	Quote: What has he done for the corn, soybean, and milk market? Sweet Jesus...don't give him any ideas! _________________________ The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. John Hay (1872)
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#1334029 - 03/21/12 12:19 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: VM Smith]
TurdyPointer TurdyPointer Member Registered: 04/03/10 Posts: 105 Loc: Oswego	Hows dem wind farms doing for the lives of birds lately?
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#1334057 - 03/21/12 04:01 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: TurdyPointer]
sands sands Senior Member Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 6005 Loc: NY
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#1334058 - 03/21/12 04:02 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: sands]
sands sands Senior Member Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 6005 Loc: NY
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#1334140 - 03/22/12 07:47 AM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]
Chicago Jesus Chicago Jesus Senior Member Registered: 01/16/12 Posts: 6126 Loc: Cocktails with Regie and Tiger	Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Originally Posted By: Zealot Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5 Since approximately 22% of total world petroleum consumption is based here in our country, I believe we shoulder some responsibility in term of global energy efficiency I agree - we should tap into some of the 1.5 trillion barrels that we have on our own land. We should supply our own needs leaving what the rest of the world produces to be used by those countries that don't have their own abundant supply. That would be the only sensable and considerate thing to do. Asian Highways America's Highway Chinese Traffic Jam Comes to an End — 22 Days Later Or does it? As I began writing this post, several news stations began reporting that the motorway connecting Beijing and Tibet has begun congesting again. Either way, if you haven’t heard, all you need to know is this: On August 14th, a traffic jam started in China — it soon consisted of 14,000 vehicles spread over 75 miles — and didn’t clear up until this Sunday. In case you needed further evidence of China’s overpopulation, look no further. How does this happen? It’s as simple as too large of a population and too little infrastructure. Sure, Chinese industry can be impressive in many ways, but ultimately China’s population is too large of a burden for the country to overcome. Not to say anything of the pollution. I hate to get political on you with this blog, but it’s happening in this post. I’ve been to Beijing — picture the foggiest day you’ve ever seen, and call that your average Wednesday. It’s gross man. And everyone is hustlin’ – when I first arrived in Beijing (in 2009) a colleague of mine was offered a 2008 Beijing Olympics hat for $20. He walked away with 10 hats for $10. Oh, and then there was the naked baby being held out shivering in the cold by a fully clothed man asking for money. Needless to say, China’s got some issues. Just my opinion. I think this traffic jam is further evidence of this fact. 22 days? 14,000 cars? 75 miles? Are you kidding me? PS: FL5, you need to get out of Stinky Falls. Edited by Chicago Jesus (03/22/12 07:50 AM) _________________________ Liberty anywhere is a threat to Collectivism everywhere. Remember.... Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl
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#1334148 - 03/22/12 08:08 AM Re: Obama's Not Accept Responsibility For Soaring gas [Re: twocats]
sands sands Senior Member Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 6005 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By: twocats This is not about supply and demand. Obama just figured out he's toast in this election. Too late. Obama to fast track southern portion of Keystone XL Pipeline http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/...ne-xl-pipeline/
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