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#1332123 - 03/13/12 04:13 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: Chicago Jesus]
Fingerlakes5
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Jesus, stop it because you’re short of groveling. If you were “smart” you would refrain from responding, it gives the impression that I am on to something, if you know what I mean. ;\)
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#1332128 - 03/13/12 04:56 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: Chicago Jesus]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
smart guy.


Harley's resorting to his patented "smart guy" retort.

In mixed martial arts parlance - dude is about to 'TAP'.


Wonder why? ;\)


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#1332137 - 03/13/12 06:31 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: Chicago Jesus]
sands
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
"The biggest driver of these high gas prices is speculation about possible war in the Middle East..." Obama told WFTV





YEA! Because until last week, there was never the possibility of war in the Middle East!

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#1332139 - 03/13/12 06:38 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: sands]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: sands
Because until last week, there was never the possibility of war in the Middle East!



Until last week??

You're not serious.

Industry upping gas prices is a political hit-job.
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#1332168 - 03/13/12 09:14 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: Ayuveda]
sands
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"Drivers are paying a heavy price for the Bush administrations failure to enact comprehensive energy strategy" - Nancy Pelosi 2007 (gas was $3.07 a gallon)

You see, to Democrats, gas prices are only the fault of the President when a Republican is President. ;\)

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#1332183 - 03/13/12 09:49 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: Ayuveda]
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You're not serious.


Sometimes you'll have that, when someone is being ironic...
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#1332190 - 03/13/12 11:51 PM Re: Obama Blames [Re: VM Smith]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
is being ironic...



Point taken. But Sands is no Alanis Morissette.
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#1332221 - 03/14/12 07:54 AM Re: Obama Blames [Re: Ayuveda]
Chicago Jesus
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Originally Posted By: VM Smith
is being ironic...



Point taken. But Sands is no Alanis Morissette.
And neither are you...smart guy.
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#1332638 - 03/15/12 04:27 PM O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Chicago Jesus]
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Rush: Obama Aims to Release Oil to Make Himself Hero

Thursday, 15 Mar 2012 01:35 PM

By Michelle Lopata




Democrats “create a bunch of victims” and then “ride to the rescue as the savior,” Rush Limbaugh says, adding that President Barack Obama is setting himself up to be the ultimate hero.

Even though Obama consistently has opposed domestic oil drilling, he now says he will tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to play the hero and save his re-election campaign, Limbaugh said on his radio show on Thursday.

“Obama has just announced that the United States and Britain are going to release oil from their strategic reserves,” Limbaugh said. “This is going to have absolutely no impact whatsoever. It is a purely political move from the guy who says we can’t drill.”

President Jimmy Carter established the oil reserve in the late 1970s following the OPEC embargo to ensure that the United States always would have oil in the event of a cutoff or shortage.

However, Limbaugh insists there is no shortage.

“The purpose of the strategic oil reserve is to provide the nation an emergency capacity,” Limbaugh said. “We don’t have an emergency, other than Obama’s re-election is in trouble. That’s the emergency. There is no shortage of oil. The emergency is the price of gasoline going up and the toll that is taking on Obama’s approval numbers. That’s the emergency.”

“The strategic oil reserve does not exist to lower gasoline prices. That’s not its purpose. The strategic reserve is to have a supply of oil when this nation is cut off, or is being threatened with a cut off of imported oil, or when there is a genuine shortage and when our national security depends on it.”

“We don’t have an emergency! There is not a shortage. There’s not an oil shortage. There’s not a crisis. This is simply a flailing attempt to get the price down,” Limbaugh insisted.

“Doing this now — releasing oil from our strategic reserves — is a sign of pure panic. The truth of the matter is the left is in a state of panic. Those two polls — The New York Times and The Washington Post this week — have shaken them to their core.”

To bolster his point, Limbaugh cited the state dinner Obama hosted at the White House Wednesday night in honor of British Prime Minister David Cameron.

“There were 34 Obama fundraisers at this state dinner — bundlers, people who have either donated or raised . . . a minimum of $500,000.

“It was a campaign event,” and Cameron was simply a pawn, Limbaugh said.

“They used this guy, purely and simply, as an Obama campaign moment, as an election ploy. And releasing oil from the strategic reserves is nothing more than theater. This is not even a short-term solution. All this really means is that we’re going to have to refill the reserves at a much higher price. This is an action that is going to cost us money. Not that anybody in the regime cares about that.”

This whole thing is “nothing more than a cheap political ploy that’s going to end up costing money,” he said.

“There is not enough oil in the strategic reserves to last long enough . . . to have any kind of permanent, meaningful impact on the price of gasoline,” Limbaugh said.

The Obama administration knows “this is not going to affect the price of gasoline. Not for the long term and not significantly.

“The strategic reserve is like a thimble compared to the daily or weekly use of oil in this country,” Limbaugh said.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Rush: Obama Aims to Release Oil to Make Himself Hero
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
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#1332658 - 03/15/12 06:26 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Chicago Jesus]
sands
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Rush: Obama Aims to Release Oil to Make Himself Hero



Wow! Just last week Obama was saying the President had no control over gas prices? He wasn't lying, was he?

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#1332763 - 03/15/12 10:27 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Chicago Jesus]
Josephus
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus
Rush: Obama Aims to Release Oil to Make Himself Hero

Even though Obama consistently has opposed domestic oil drilling, he now says he will tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to play the hero and save his re-election campaign, Limbaugh said on his radio show on Thursday.

I'm pretty sure that Obama is smart enough to know that you could have all the oil you ever wanted, but that it would do you no good unless you have enough refineries to quickly turn enough of it into gasoline to bring prices down. What's more... most people (or smart ones, anyway) know it too.
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#1332785 - 03/16/12 05:06 AM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Josephus]
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yes that's somewhat true, and... They have been saying that since the 70's and yet have done little to nothing to establish the oil wells and refineries needed to make the USA energy efficient. Of course it can't be done tomorrow, but let another 40 years go by before they finally get off their backsides, and make this country non-dependant on any other nation for our energy needs. I'd almost be willing to bet there wouldn't be an energy crisis anymore if that were the case.
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#1332804 - 03/16/12 07:57 AM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Ranger]
Fingerlakes5
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Originally Posted By: Ranger
yes that's somewhat true, and... They have been saying that since the 70's and yet have done little to nothing to establish the oil wells and refineries needed to make the USA energy efficient. Of course it can't be done tomorrow, but let another 40 years go by before they finally get off their backsides, and make this country non-dependant on any other nation for our energy needs. I'd almost be willing to bet there wouldn't be an energy crisis anymore if that were the case.



Interestingly these articles were written better than a year ago. Some of American’s mindset tends to lean toward gas guzzling luxury and heavy SUV/Pickups. If more oil is produced we will realize hopefully a drop in gas prices, only to return back toward the previous buying trends. Here are some of the popular vehicles the middle class buys or at least would love to own.

Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG (14 mpg Audi R8 Spider (14 mpg combined) Nissan Titan (14 mpg combined) Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon 2500 (12 mpg combined

http://money.msn.com/market-news/post.aspx?post=81485486-6879-49a7-8b5a-451c87bc9d68
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/15016/obama-dont-like-high-gas-prices-trade-in-your-gas-guzzler/
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#1332829 - 03/16/12 09:25 AM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Fingerlakes5]
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Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5
Originally Posted By: Ranger
yes that's somewhat true, and... They have been saying that since the 70's and yet have done little to nothing to establish the oil wells and refineries needed to make the USA energy efficient. Of course it can't be done tomorrow, but let another 40 years go by before they finally get off their backsides, and make this country non-dependant on any other nation for our energy needs. I'd almost be willing to bet there wouldn't be an energy crisis anymore if that were the case.


Interestingly these articles were written better than a year ago. Some of American’s mindset tends to lean toward gas guzzling luxury and heavy SUV/Pickups. If more oil is produced we will realize hopefully a drop in gas prices, only to return back toward the previous buying trends. Here are some of the popular vehicles the middle class buys or at least would love to own.

Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG (14 mpg Audi R8 Spider (14 mpg combined) Nissan Titan (14 mpg combined) Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon 2500 (12 mpg combined

http://money.msn.com/market-news/post.aspx?post=81485486-6879-49a7-8b5a-451c87bc9d68
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/15016/obama-dont-like-high-gas-prices-trade-in-your-gas-guzzler/

So its up to you to control market trends and to tell the citizens what to buy and what drive?
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#1332925 - 03/16/12 01:05 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Ross Falk]
Josephus
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Originally Posted By: Ross Falk
Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5
Originally Posted By: Ranger
yes that's somewhat true, and... They have been saying that since the 70's and yet have done little to nothing to establish the oil wells and refineries needed to make the USA energy efficient. Of course it can't be done tomorrow, but let another 40 years go by before they finally get off their backsides, and make this country non-dependant on any other nation for our energy needs. I'd almost be willing to bet there wouldn't be an energy crisis anymore if that were the case.


Interestingly these articles were written better than a year ago. Some of American’s mindset tends to lean toward gas guzzling luxury and heavy SUV/Pickups. If more oil is produced we will realize hopefully a drop in gas prices, only to return back toward the previous buying trends. Here are some of the popular vehicles the middle class buys or at least would love to own.

Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG (14 mpg Audi R8 Spider (14 mpg combined) Nissan Titan (14 mpg combined) Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon 2500 (12 mpg combined

http://money.msn.com/market-news/post.aspx?post=81485486-6879-49a7-8b5a-451c87bc9d68
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/15016/obama-dont-like-high-gas-prices-trade-in-your-gas-guzzler/

So its up to you to control market trends and to tell the citizens what to buy and what drive?

I'd say not really... but if people do buy such vehicles and then gas prices zooms up to, say, $6.00 a gallon, they don't have much ground to stand upon to bitch about the high price of gasoline. They obviosly made their bed and now must lay in it, with no reason to complain.
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#1332941 - 03/16/12 01:55 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Ross Falk]
Fingerlakes5
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Originally Posted By: Ross Falk
Originally Posted By: Fingerlakes5
Originally Posted By: Ranger
yes that's somewhat true, and... They have been saying that since the 70's and yet have done little to nothing to establish the oil wells and refineries needed to make the USA energy efficient. Of course it can't be done tomorrow, but let another 40 years go by before they finally get off their backsides, and make this country non-dependant on any other nation for our energy needs. I'd almost be willing to bet there wouldn't be an energy crisis anymore if that were the case.


Interestingly these articles were written better than a year ago. Some of American’s mindset tends to lean toward gas guzzling luxury and heavy SUV/Pickups. If more oil is produced we will realize hopefully a drop in gas prices, only to return back toward the previous buying trends. Here are some of the popular vehicles the middle class buys or at least would love to own.

Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG (14 mpg Audi R8 Spider (14 mpg combined) Nissan Titan (14 mpg combined) Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon 2500 (12 mpg combined

http://money.msn.com/market-news/post.aspx?post=81485486-6879-49a7-8b5a-451c87bc9d68
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/15016/obama-dont-like-high-gas-prices-trade-in-your-gas-guzzler/

So its up to you to control market trends and to tell the citizens what to buy and what drive?


Since approximately 22% of total world petroleum consumption is based here in our country, I believe we shoulder some responsibility in term of global energy efficiency
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#1332944 - 03/16/12 02:00 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Josephus]
sands
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
They obviosly made their bed and now must lay in it, with no reason to complain.



YEA! Shame on the middle class for stopping offshore drilling, blocking ANWAR, and rejecting the Keystone Pipeline!

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#1332945 - 03/16/12 02:02 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Ross Falk]
sands
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Originally Posted By: Ross Falk
So its up to you to control market trends and to tell the citizens what to buy and what drive?



No. That's Obama's job. Telling the citizens what to eat is Michelle's job.

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#1332947 - 03/16/12 02:16 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: Josephus]
Zealot
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
I'd say not really... but if people do buy such vehicles and then gas prices zooms up to, say, $6.00 a gallon, they don't have much ground to stand upon to bitch about the high price of gasoline. They obviosly made their bed and now must lay in it, with no reason to complain.


I highly doubt that it is the folks buying the big ticket SUV's who are doing the complaining. I would wager more along the lines of the lower income folks, maybe driving older models because they can't afford a new higher efficiency model, people who have very few disposal income dollars left for the week after paying the bills who will be hit harder by the $6 per gallon price. Or perhaps the person who does not have a car at all because they can't afford to insure and maintain it, but whom are none the less paying for the higher gas prices in the form of higher grocery bills because everything at their local grocery store must be trucked in. I really can't foresee people being concerned about the big truck and SUV drivers.
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#1332948 - 03/16/12 02:17 PM Re: O'bama the Hero...ahahahaha [Re: sands]
Josephus
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Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: Josephus
They obviosly made their bed and now must lay in it, with no reason to complain.



YEA! Shame on the middle class for stopping offshore drilling, blocking ANWAR, and rejecting the Keystone Pipeline!

Once again... it's not so much the supply of oil. It's the ability to refine it into gasoline. Rather than continually searching for oil sources (short term fix), we should be doing research and exploring options for renewable resources... not finite ones.
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