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#1324427 --- 02/12/12 12:47 AM Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl
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NY State Sen. Grisanti, wife 'beaten' by Seneca nation businessmen

A New York state senator and his wife were jumped by a pair of Seneca nation businessmen last night during a wild brawl in a Niagara Falls Indian casino following a black tie gala where the lawmaker had been a guest.

Republican State Sen. Mark J. Grisanti was punched in the ribs and back of the head, and his wife Maria was beaten so severely about her head and face that she sought medical attention.

According to witnesses, the melee that erupted when the Senator attempted to make peace between two Native American businessmen who were loudly arguing in a lobby bar after the event at Seneca Niagara Casino and Hotel Events Center.

Grisanti allegedly said: "Hey guys, calm down. This is a nice event. Relax, cool down," said a source close Grisanti told The Post.

When one of the men asked Grisanti who he was, the senator identified himself.

Then, the businessman, "punches Mark in the ribs and says, 'You're no [blanking] good. You hate the Indians!'" the person close to Grisanti said.

"You haven't done anything for us," another source said Grisanti was told.

The senator then was punched in the back of the head.

When Maria came to her husband's aid, at least one of the women began attacking her, the source said.

"The women started jumping on her, pulling her hair," one source said. "Mark tried to pull the women off his wife, who's on the ground, getting kicked and punched."

"They were banging his wife's head on the floor," the source said. "Grisanti then went off on them."

One of the businessmen and two women involved in the fight have been arrested, the other was still being sought by cops.

Niagara Falls police declined to comment or provide any further information.

By DON KAPLAN
NY Post
Last Updated: 7:02 PM, February 11, 2012

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#1324470 --- 02/12/12 01:50 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: newsman38]
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WHY was a State Senator at and supporting a Casino that owes NYS MILLIONS????..... I guess *everyone* is NOT "up in arms" about the Native Americans like Kyle and Bluezone like to think \:\/

"You haven't done anything for us," another source said Grisanti was told.

The senator then was punched in the back of the head".


Sounds to me like he didn't fulfill his *quiet money* promises \:\/
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#1324549 --- 02/12/12 10:41 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Weird.
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#1324609 --- 02/13/12 11:42 AM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: WilllOWisp]
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If such an assault occurs in a sovereign nation, do US laws apply?
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#1324610 --- 02/13/12 11:44 AM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
WHY was a State Senator at and supporting a Casino that owes NYS MILLIONS????..... I guess *everyone* is NOT "up in arms" about the Native Americans like Kyle and Bluezone like to think
You are not upset that they owes NYS millions?
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#1324612 --- 02/13/12 11:51 AM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: kyle585]
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Not upset at all

#1 NYS was dumb enough to get involved in a joint operation with them

#2 They are withholding the $$ in retaliation for the Native American Cig tax
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#1324633 --- 02/13/12 02:25 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not upset at all

#1 NYS was dumb enough to get involved in a joint operation with them

#2 They are withholding the $$ in retaliation for the Native American Cig tax


incorrect on both
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#1324663 --- 02/13/12 03:33 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: newsman38]
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Originally Posted By: newsman38
"You haven't done anything for us," another source said Grisanti was told.


and what has porter done for NY/US citizens?
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#1324802 --- 02/13/12 09:00 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
WHY was a State Senator at and supporting a Casino that owes NYS MILLIONS????..... I guess *everyone* is NOT "up in arms" about the Native Americans like Kyle and Bluezone like to think \:\/

"You haven't done anything for us," another source said Grisanti was told.

The senator then was punched in the back of the head".


Sounds to me like he didn't fulfill his *quiet money* promises \:\/


Just for the record, I believe he was there to support the Diabetes Foundation, not the casino.
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#1324925 --- 02/14/12 05:38 AM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: newsman38
"You haven't done anything for us," another source said Grisanti was told.


and what has porter done for NY/US citizens?


I don't know....ask the Senator and his wife...they were at his inauguration in 2010! \:\/

"Seneca Nation President Robert Odawi Porter released a statement Saturday expressing regret over the fight. He said he hoped Maria Grisanti was recovering quickly and noted that she had attended his inauguration in 2010".

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/state_senator_wife_attacked_at.html
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#1324926 --- 02/14/12 05:40 AM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: Greymane]
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just for the record, I believe he was there to support the Diabetes Foundation, not the casino.


WRONG

"The Grisantis attended because their daughter was part of the entertainment for the night, performing with the Buffalo singing act, the Scintas. They were in a lobby area around 11:30 p.m. when they encountered two men arguing loudly".

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/state_senator_wife_attacked_at.html
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#1324927 --- 02/14/12 05:55 AM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not upset at all

#1 NYS was dumb enough to get involved in a joint operation with them

#2 They are withholding the $$ in retaliation for the Native American Cig tax


incorrect on both



BUFFALO, N.Y. - Governor Paterson's office is threatening to terminate the gaming compact between New York State and the Senecas if the Senecas do not come forward with the casino funds owed for 2009 and 2010.

http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=89860
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#1325086 --- 02/14/12 07:26 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
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just for the record, I believe he was there to support the Diabetes Foundation, not the casino.


WRONG

"The Grisantis attended because their daughter was part of the entertainment for the night, performing with the Buffalo singing act, the Scintas. They were in a lobby area around 11:30 p.m. when they encountered two men arguing loudly".

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/state_senator_wife_attacked_at.html


Was the group performing for the fundraiser (because the NYT article said they were at the Diabetes Foundation fundraiser)?
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#1325088 --- 02/14/12 07:29 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
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just for the record, I believe he was there to support the Diabetes Foundation, not the casino.


WRONG

"The Grisantis attended because their daughter was part of the entertainment for the night, performing with the Buffalo singing act, the Scintas. They were in a lobby area around 11:30 p.m. when they encountered two men arguing loudly".

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/state_senator_wife_attacked_at.html


Not to gety in the middle of things, but even the article says it was For the Diabetes Foundation.

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#1325092 --- 02/14/12 07:40 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Seneca leader: Uh, what I meant to say was …
Posted on February 11, 2012

Seneca Nation President Robert Odawi Porter decided to take a second pass at his statement about the altercation in which Buffalo-area Sen. Mark Grisanti, shown at right, and his wife were allegedly beaten up at at Seneca Niagara Casino on Friday night after an event sponsored by the Seneca Diabetes Foundation.

As the Buffalo News reported, “The beating occurred as Grisanti tried to calm down two Seneca Nation businessmen who were arguing in a downstairs bar after the event. At least one of them then criticized the Buffalo Republican for his supposed lack of support for the Nation, sources said.”

Porter’s first statement was released just before 1 p.m.:

“The Seneca Nation has no formal ties to the Diabetes Foundation, nor does Seneca Gaming Corp. and therefore no connection to the events that occurred Friday night under the Foundation’s auspices. The Nation and I will have no further official comment, other than to say we abhor this sort of behavior.”

First of all, it’s pretty safe to say that “the events that occurred Friday night” (the alleged beating of the Grisantis, that is) didn’t occur “under the Foundation’s auspices” — if they did, we want to talk to the event planner.

When an update to the News’ story revealed that the incident had resulted in Maria Grisanti heading to the hospital on Saturday for an MRI and other treatment, Porter decided a slightly more, um, sympathetic tone might be in order.

This “updated” statement was released just after 4 p.m.:

“The Seneca Nation has no formal ties to the Diabetes Foundation, nor does Seneca Gaming Corp. and therefore no direct connection to the events that occurred Friday night after the Foundation’s gala.”

“Early this morning, I spoke to Sen. Grisanti to express my concern.

“I was upset to hear about what transpired at our Niagara Falls property in the incident involving several individuals from the Seneca Nation. I want to express my personal sympathies to the senator and his wife Maria, who attended my inauguration on the senator’s behalf in November 2010. We hope she is faring well and is on a speedy path to recovery.

“I would hope for better behavior and conduct from everyone at such an event as this, although it transpired sometime after the gala ended. Sadly, one cannot control individual behavior. On behalf of the Seneca Nation, I extend my heartfelt sympathy to Sen. Grisanti, his wife Maria and their family.”



do as the tribe would do
SUE.....
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#1325094 --- 02/14/12 07:42 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not upset at all

#1 NYS was dumb enough to get involved in a joint operation with them

#2 They are withholding the $$ in retaliation for the Native American Cig tax

incorrect on both

BUFFALO, N.Y. - Governor Paterson's office is threatening to terminate the gaming compact between New York State and the Senecas if the Senecas do not come forward with the casino funds owed for 2009 and 2010.

http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=89860


a compact does not mean NYS is a co-owner
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#1325095 --- 02/14/12 07:44 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: bluezone]
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rescind the senecas treaty
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#1325096 --- 02/14/12 07:48 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: bluezone]
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#1326323 --- 02/20/12 02:15 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: newsman38]
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Originally Posted By: newsman38
NY State Sen. Grisanti, wife 'beaten' by Seneca nation businessmen

A New York state senator and his wife were jumped by a pair of Seneca nation businessmen last night during a wild brawl in a Niagara Falls Indian casino following a black tie gala where the lawmaker had been a guest.

By DON KAPLAN
NY Post
Last Updated: 7:02 PM, February 11, 2012
http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/crime/senator-grisanti-to-file-charges
Senator Grisanti files charges in attack
Senator Grisanti and wife pressing charges
Sunday, 19 Feb 2012
• Aga Dembinska

Niagara Falls, N.Y- - Senator Mark Grisanti and his wife Maria are pressing charges against the women who they say attacked Maria on February 10 at the Seneca Niagara Casino.
He is also encouraging the Seneca Niagara Casino to release the surveillance tapes.

In a statement released Sunday morning, the Senator says "It is time to let the law enforcement and judicial systems do its job."
Last week, the Grisantis were just heading home after they watched their daughter sing with The Scintas at the Seneca Diabetes Foundation black-tie gala.

As they walked through the lobby, Senator Grisanti says he noticed two Native American men looking like they were about to fight. After he tried to get between them, Grisanti was attacked . As he was being attacked, two women brutally beat Maria Grisanti.

Senator Grisanti has stated since the attack that he does not hold the Seneca Nation, Seneca President, or the Seneca Tribal Council responsible for the "isolated and unfortunate event."
Grisanti says he has always taught that when you make a mistake or do something wrong apologies are in order but they "will not apologize for the vicious attack" that took place against his wife.

"We did not do anything wrong. All of my actions were instinctive to protect my wife, and are what any other man would have done under these circumstances. As far as I'm concerned the incident was not over until my wife was safely in my arms."



They may well get charges filed because the incident was not supported by the tribe. State laws apply to these state reservations - when the State WANTS to enforce them.

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#1326350 --- 02/20/12 04:13 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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He is also encouraging the Seneca Niagara Casino to release the surveillance tapes.


the tribe must be hiding something or they would have released them earlier
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#1326373 --- 02/20/12 05:40 PM Re: Indians Assault State Senator in Casino Brawl [Re: bluezone]
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He is also encouraging the Seneca Niagara Casino to release the surveillance tapes.


the tribe must be hiding something or they would have released them earlier
Does it really matter the State Senator probably deserves a good beat down anyway.

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