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#1324171 --- 02/10/12 07:19 PM Gulf of America
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posted at 10:25 am on February 10, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

People like to blame Mexico for all sorts of things. Drug trafficking, gastrointestinal disorders, stealing our jobs… and now, stealing our international bodies of water. Or at least that seems to be the opinion of one Mississippi Democrat, a Mr. Steve Holland by name, and he’s not going to take it any more. In fact, he’s introduced legislation to rename the Gulf of Mexico to something more… American.

If a Mississippi lawmaker gets his way, the Gulf of Mexico will become the “Gulf of America.”

Mississippi State Rep. Steve Holland, a Democrat, has introduced a bill calling for the part of the Gulf of Mexico that is bordered by Mississippi to be renamed the “Gulf of America.”

The measure, known as HB 150 and introduced to the state House Marine Resources Committee, says the body of water will have its new name beginning July 1.

The predictable and immediate response was not to call this idea stupid. Perish the thought! Why do that when we can call it… (say it with me…) racist.

The proposed name change has drawn criticism from various groups, including a Latino GOP organization known as Café Con Leche, which sent Holland a letter demanding that he withdraw the bill and calling HB 150 anti-Mexican.

“If this bill passes the legislature and is signed into law, perhaps it is time to rename the Mississippi River,” wrote Bob Quasius, Café Con Leche’s president, in the letter. “After all, sharing a name with a state that wants to rewrite maps out of disdain for Mexicans would be a disgrace to the rest of the nation.”

I’m not entirely sure where one state legislature comes up with the power to start renaming international bodies of water, but I still find this idea really exciting. Imagine the possibilities! In a tit for tat move, Mexico could rename the Gulf of California. (Take a look at the map… the Gulf of California doesn’t even touch California. It’s entirely bounded by Mexico.) And for those of you who never really trusted out neighbors to the north, we could rename Lake Huron to something like… Lake Ted Nugent. (Suck it, Canada!)

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#1324184 --- 02/10/12 08:01 PM Re: Gulf of America [Re: ]
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Well... I'm certainly one that will call it a stupid idea. Especially since anything past three miles is international waters. Also, I'm betting that Mexico has more of a coastline on the Gulf of Mexico than the US does, and most certainly more than Mississippi.

I think we all know that congress has more important issues to deal with than this crack pot idea.
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#1324188 --- 02/10/12 08:08 PM Re: Gulf of America [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus


In a tit for tat move, Mexico could rename the Gulf of California. (Take a look at the map… the Gulf of California doesn’t even touch California. It’s entirely bounded by Mexico.)

Actually, yes it does touch California... Baja California. It was named when all of California was Spanish territory, and California was divided into Baja (lower) California and Alta (upper) California... the present US state, plus Nevada, Arizona, and Utah at that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_California

Still a stupid idea though...
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#1324192 --- 02/10/12 08:16 PM Re: Gulf of America [Re: Josephus]
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Well, stupid...yes, but there is precedence. Look at the Persian Gulf...er, I mean the Arabian Gulf. Then, there are those countries in eastern Europe that change name everytime some group storms across them with a convoy of tanks.

The trade of Gulf of Mexico for Gulf of California is not a bad idea, though. Much more real estate for us. I have to say, I love the Lake Ted Nugent comment.
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#1324193 --- 02/10/12 08:21 PM Re: Gulf of America [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Chicago Jesus


In a tit for tat move, Mexico could rename the Gulf of California. (Take a look at the map… the Gulf of California doesn’t even touch California. It’s entirely bounded by Mexico.)

Actually, yes it does touch California... Baja California. It was named when all of California was Spanish territory, and California was divided into Baja (lower) California and Alta (upper) California... the present US state, plus Nevada, Arizona, and Utah at that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_California

Still a stupid idea though...


You would think that someone who lobbies for Mexican causes would know that. Of course, ask someone from Georgia where Athens is located, then ask someone from Greece. It is all in the perspective.
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#1325066 --- 02/14/12 07:03 PM Re: Gulf of America [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Well... I'm certainly one that will call it a stupid idea. Especially since anything past three miles is international waters. Also, I'm betting that Mexico has more of a coastline on the Gulf of Mexico than the US does, and most certainly more than Mississippi.

I think we all know that congress has more important issues to deal with than this crack pot idea.
Especially since anything past three miles is international waters.[/quote]
Wrong again comrade know it all. Try 12nm and that's about 14 mile.

"1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. As a result, the three-mile limit has become largely obsolete. As of 2007[update], only Gibraltar, Jordan, Palau, and Singapore retain it."

You need to lay off the polish at the museum comrade Stalin, you are getting burned out from it! Soon you may not know your butt from a tea cup.

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#1325085 --- 02/14/12 07:26 PM Re: Gulf of America [Re: ]
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Once again, much ado over very little. Do we actually think that every country calls every body of water the same thing.

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