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#1323077 - 02/06/12 03:18 PM
The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
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cRaZeD
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Registered: 06/16/04
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http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S2484697.shtml?cat=566
My daughter works at a hospital and said they see many teenagers that come in with seizures/paralysis and sometimes even coma. When testing is performed, these (legal) substances don't show up. Another reason to just legalize marijuana.
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#1323442 - 02/07/12 07:11 PM
Re: The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
[Re: cRaZeD]
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selscott
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 64
Loc: new york
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There is a test Urine test for the Legal stuff...http://www.aitlabs.com/
13650 Synthetic Cannabinoids, Urine Spice,K2
Specimen Type: Urine
Analytes Included: JWH-018 monohydroxyl metabolite,JWH-073 monohydroxyl metabolite
Reporting Limit: 1 ng/mL
Minimum Specimen Volume: 5 mL
Special Instructions: None
Method of Analysis: UPLC-MS/MS
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#1323999 - 02/09/12 06:31 PM
Re: The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
[Re: bluezone]
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Frisco kid
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Registered: 12/25/11
Posts: 323
Loc: NY
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As Teedoff stated the so called "fake" weed products need to be used cautiously. Sometimes you can do a couple hits and feel nothing. Sometimes a couple feels just right. And sometimes a couple is way too much. It is because of how these products are made. The leafy stuff is just what they apply the chemicals to and it's not uniform at all thus the difference is the amount needed to get high.
The thing I wanted to mention is what is also being sold and marketed as "bath salts". This is clearly being sold as fake cocaine. This stuff is dangerous and if you know anyone using this beg them to stop. Healthy high school and college kids are being rushed to ER having heart attacks because of this crap.
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#1324887 - 02/13/12 07:41 PM
Re: The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
[Re: teedoff27]
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Frisco kid
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Registered: 12/25/11
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Loc: NY
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Senator Supports Legislation to Ban Synthetic Drugs
The use of synthetic marijuana and the number of those being treated for medical problems because of it, has exploded. As YNN reported last month, the products are easily bought in local convenience stores or smoke shops. They're known by a variety of names including K2 or Spice.
They're labeled as incense or potpourri and not for human consumption, but people are smoking them. That causes intense highs followed by hallucinations, psychotic episodes, rapid heart rate, even seizures.
Rochester medical experts say area hospitals are treating nearly a person a day for side effects from those synthetic drugs.
"There's a perception that these are safe and legal alternatives to marijuana and in some other cases the designer drugs, drugs like cocaine and meth," said Dr. Timothy Wiegand, Director of Toxicology at the University of Rochester Medical Center. "And from what I've seen, they're anything but safe; often with much more significant toxicity and unintended consequences."
In 2009, poison control centers reported 13 calls related to the product. That number jumped to more than 1,000 in 2010 and more than 6,500 last year.
"The high is cheap, the cost is low, the consequences are deadly," said Senator Charles Schumer, (D). "We need to put a stop to it."
Schumer is pushing for legislation to ban the products. He supports the David Mitchell Rozga Act that would ban synthetic marijuana and make it illegal to sell even advertised as something else. The ban would be widespread, thus stopping manufacturers from simply altering one banned chemical and putting it back on store shelves.
"What our legislation does is it much more broadly defines what the drug is," said Schumer. "We are no longer banning compound by compound. Compounds will be banned but they will allow be allowed to ban new and unforseen compounds that have the same effect."
Schumer says that bill has made it way through the House but was stopped in the Senate. He says he's putting pressure on fellow senators to get it passed there as well.
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_sto...ynthetic-drugs/
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#1325186 - 02/14/12 10:40 PM
Re: The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
[Re: teedoff27]
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Frisco kid
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Registered: 12/25/11
Posts: 323
Loc: NY
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Perhaps because they can collect sales tax on this stuff and not the $20 bag you buy in an alleyway. 
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#1326206 - 02/19/12 10:31 AM
Re: The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
[Re: teedoff27]
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cRaZeD
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Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 2493
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I have heard that exact same thing. Actually, the states that legalized medicinal marijuana prescribe it for the chemo side effects. I had a friend that had Chron's disease, and she was really bad off having had 2 colectomys. She told her doctor that she smoked every time her pain was bad and her doctor told her that if it was working for her then to continue.
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#1326298 - 02/20/12 01:23 AM
Re: The Legal (???) High - more dangerous effects
[Re: cRaZeD]
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teedoff27
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Registered: 10/11/11
Posts: 1681
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I agree. In my opinion by NYS not legalizing Medical Marijuana it is a great disservice to cancer patients and others with chronic disease!
When I worked in Oncology I used to *room* the patients and go over their medications, and some had up to 20 different medications with half of them being to counteract the side effects of all the others.
Most cancer patients are on anti-anxiety meds, pain meds, nausea meds, appetite meds, sleeping pills and anti-constipation meds for the constipation the pain meds cause.
With Marijuana can reduce anxiety, help you sleep, increase your appetite, help with pain, and stop nausea. It is 100% ALL NATURAL and has NO side effects. Just be sure to have enough Ho-Ho's, Doritos, and pickle juice on hand for the *munchies* and weird cravings like mayonnaise and jelly sandwiches 
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