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#1314017 - 12/28/11 10:22 AM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: fredfred]
lighthouselover
Junior Member


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 6
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: fredfred
I am trying to reach out and find out if anyone else is having trouble with their children or friends of their children who are being bullied. We need to stop it soon. I know it has been on going for years and am tired of being told that it is being handled or that we should teach our kids how to deal with it. Is anyone else feed up?

there are alot of us that are tired of it...feel free to contact me and i will be there with you fighting them on these issues..the more the merrier....

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#1314045 - 12/28/11 12:24 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: lighthouselover]
Red22
Senior Member


Registered: 06/21/06
Posts: 728
Loc: ny
Griping about it on this forum may bring awareness to some extent. However, you need to be more proactive. You need to continue to call, show up or write. You cannot let up. School administrators are very busy, I'm not making excuses, but you need to make your cause one of their priorities or else it gets put on the bottom of the list. I work at a school and I see it all the time, if students/parents are not persistent situations will be overlooked and forgotten about.

I would suggest the power of numbers. Find other students who are being bullied, get in contact with their parents and attend/ask to be put on the agenda for the next board meeting, and after or before that, ask to set up a meeting with administration and counseling. I'm telling you, this will work, but you NEED to follow through.

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#1314048 - 12/28/11 12:39 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Red22]
lighthouselover
Junior Member


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 6
Loc: ny
been there been doing that for 3 months....had meetings after meetings...sat in the office with with 2 other parents and their child who were all attacked by the same group of kids....and like i said....their punishment was 2 dance suspension...have sent numerous emails to each and every board member...i can only be so presistant and spend so much time at the school...every day life has to be taken care of as well...its a sad sitution that the school seems to think we are making a bigger issue out of it then it really is in their eyes..i often wonder if it dont come down to a case of who the bullies parents all...after all in this case in paticular one of the bullies parents works directly with the superintendent....
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#1314076 - 12/28/11 02:51 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: fredfred]
Tobey1
Junior Member


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 2
Loc: Yates County NY
It has been an ongoing problem with each of my 3 children. When I talk to the principal, I get nowhere. I was told that my child must have done something first to provoke the bully. That is BS! At one point, my son was harassed so bad he finally decked the kid. I received a call from the school in which the principal actually admitted to knowing my son was being tormented and only defending himself, but was told he was being suspended because he needs to learn how to handle it differently. After 6 yrs of battling with the school I finally gave my son permission to defend himself. Enough is enough!
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#1314082 - 12/28/11 03:18 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Red22]
BrendaBabe
Member


Registered: 03/16/10
Posts: 61
Loc: NY, Yates
Originally Posted By: Red22
Griping about it on this forum may bring awareness to some extent. However, you need to be more proactive. You need to continue to call, show up or write. You cannot let up. School administrators are very busy, I'm not making excuses, but you need to make your cause one of their priorities or else it gets put on the bottom of the list. I work at a school and I see it all the time, if students/parents are not persistent situations will be overlooked and forgotten about.

I would suggest the power of numbers. Find other students who are being bullied, get in contact with their parents and attend/ask to be put on the agenda for the next board meeting, and after or before that, ask to set up a meeting with administration and counseling. I'm telling you, this will work, but you NEED to follow through.



Give me a break! Why dont you ask the parents to beg? Document, film and record. Put on Youtube, provide the link and you will see action faster than someone can respond to this post. Get an attorney!

The School adminisrators do seem to "busy" and here lies the problem.

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#1314146 - 12/28/11 07:37 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: BrendaBabe]
Red22
Senior Member


Registered: 06/21/06
Posts: 728
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: BrendaBabe
Originally Posted By: Red22
Griping about it on this forum may bring awareness to some extent. However, you need to be more proactive. You need to continue to call, show up or write. You cannot let up. School administrators are very busy, I'm not making excuses, but you need to make your cause one of their priorities or else it gets put on the bottom of the list. I work at a school and I see it all the time, if students/parents are not persistent situations will be overlooked and forgotten about.

I would suggest the power of numbers. Find other students who are being bullied, get in contact with their parents and attend/ask to be put on the agenda for the next board meeting, and after or before that, ask to set up a meeting with administration and counseling. I'm telling you, this will work, but you NEED to follow through.



Give me a break! Why dont you ask the parents to beg? Document, film and record. Put on Youtube, provide the link and you will see action faster than someone can respond to this post. Get an attorney!

The School adminisrators do seem to "busy" and here lies the problem.


I'm not sure what you're getting at because in my original post I said that contacting the media would work in a heartbeat. I get it, you're preaching to the choir. I'm just trying to provide ideas that may not have been thought of yet.

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Call or show up at the school every day to speak with the principal. If/when that stops working, go straight to the superintendent and tell them that you are very serious about letting the media know that there is a bullying problem in the school. Tell more parents, write a letter to the editor, contact local newspapers. Trust me, once you start letting them know that you have no intentions of letting up, they will change their tone and start taking it seriously. Not to mention the legal ramifications if/when the principal ignores what is happening and allows children to be harassed in what is supposed to be a SAFE environment. Good luck and whatever you do, don't give up.


See previous post above.

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#1314147 - 12/28/11 07:42 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: lighthouselover]
Red22
Senior Member


Registered: 06/21/06
Posts: 728
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: lighthouselover
been there been doing that for 3 months....had meetings after meetings...sat in the office with with 2 other parents and their child who were all attacked by the same group of kids....and like i said....their punishment was 2 dance suspension...have sent numerous emails to each and every board member...i can only be so presistant and spend so much time at the school...every day life has to be taken care of as well...its a sad sitution that the school seems to think we are making a bigger issue out of it then it really is in their eyes..i often wonder if it dont come down to a case of who the bullies parents all...after all in this case in paticular one of the bullies parents works directly with the superintendent....


I don't know what you consider everyday life, but this is a part of it. So what if the dishes pile up, or the yard goes not mowed, or you have to make a phone call on your lunch hour. This is your child for Christ's sake. Call the cops, press harassment charges. Quit making excuses and FOLLOW THROUGH. I'm not trying to sound harsh but there are things you can do, don't let the school tell you otherwise.

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#1314153 - 12/28/11 08:21 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: lighthouselover]
fredfred
Junior Member


Registered: 06/03/11
Posts: 14
Loc: dundee
Thanks so much for all the input. This is why I posted. I want everyone to know that there is a bigger problem going on that we may not all be aware of since we don't always see all the parents. We should keep talking and letting others know that no one is alone and we should all work on fixing this together. Again thanks.
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#1314155 - 12/28/11 08:51 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Red22]
lighthouselover
Junior Member


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 6
Loc: ny
excuse me i know this is my child....there are school resource officers that are invovled and we can not press harrassment charges due to the age....trust me that avenue has been covered...
Originally Posted By: Red22
Originally Posted By: lighthouselover
been there been doing that for 3 months....had meetings after meetings...sat in the office with with 2 other parents and their child who were all attacked by the same group of kids....and like i said....their punishment was 2 dance suspension...have sent numerous emails to each and every board member...i can only be so presistant and spend so much time at the school...every day life has to be taken care of as well...its a sad sitution that the school seems to think we are making a bigger issue out of it then it really is in their eyes..i often wonder if it dont come down to a case of who the bullies parents all...after all in this case in paticular one of the bullies parents works directly with the superintendent....


I don't know what you consider everyday life, but this is a part of it. So what if the dishes pile up, or the yard goes not mowed, or you have to make a phone call on your lunch hour. This is your child for Christ's sake. Call the cops, press harassment charges. Quit making excuses and FOLLOW THROUGH. I'm not trying to sound harsh but there are things you can do, don't let the school tell you otherwise.

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#1314236 - 12/29/11 10:13 AM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: lighthouselover]
Red22
Senior Member


Registered: 06/21/06
Posts: 728
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: lighthouselover
excuse me i know this is my child....there are school resource officers that are invovled and we can not press harrassment charges due to the age....trust me that avenue has been covered...
Originally Posted By: Red22
Originally Posted By: lighthouselover
been there been doing that for 3 months....had meetings after meetings...sat in the office with with 2 other parents and their child who were all attacked by the same group of kids....and like i said....their punishment was 2 dance suspension...have sent numerous emails to each and every board member...i can only be so presistant and spend so much time at the school...every day life has to be taken care of as well...its a sad sitution that the school seems to think we are making a bigger issue out of it then it really is in their eyes..i often wonder if it dont come down to a case of who the bullies parents all...after all in this case in paticular one of the bullies parents works directly with the superintendent....


I don't know what you consider everyday life, but this is a part of it. So what if the dishes pile up, or the yard goes not mowed, or you have to make a phone call on your lunch hour. This is your child for Christ's sake. Call the cops, press harassment charges. Quit making excuses and FOLLOW THROUGH. I'm not trying to sound harsh but there are things you can do, don't let the school tell you otherwise.


I think that if a group of parents were to go to the media (a newspaper, or the news, post on youtube) you would see some sort of results. There has to be something under the umbrella of not providing a safe place. I feel like it would be the same type of law that employers have to follow. For example, if you tell your boss that someone is harassing you on the job, they have to do something about it or else they can get into a lot of trouble. I would think that there is something like that for schools as well.

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#1314237 - 12/29/11 10:14 AM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: fredfred]
Red22
Senior Member


Registered: 06/21/06
Posts: 728
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: fredfred
Thanks so much for all the input. This is why I posted. I want everyone to know that there is a bigger problem going on that we may not all be aware of since we don't always see all the parents. We should keep talking and letting others know that no one is alone and we should all work on fixing this together. Again thanks.


Write a letter to the editor for the Fingerlakes Times. I bet it would peak some interest.

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#1314240 - 12/29/11 10:23 AM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Red22]
BrendaBabe
Member


Registered: 03/16/10
Posts: 61
Loc: NY, Yates
What are the names of those that have been told in the school system that have done "nothing"?
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#1314250 - 12/29/11 10:48 AM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: BrendaBabe]
cRaZeD
Senior Member


Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 2493
You are not allowed to publish names on this forum in this type of manner. Well, the last I knew, you weren't allowed to!

Originally Posted By: BrendaBabe
What are the names of those that have been told in the school system that have done "nothing"?

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#1314272 - 12/29/11 01:10 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Red22]
fredfred
Junior Member


Registered: 06/03/11
Posts: 14
Loc: dundee
Originally Posted By: Red22
Originally Posted By: fredfred
Thanks so much for all the input. This is why I posted. I want everyone to know that there is a bigger problem going on that we may not all be aware of since we don't always see all the parents. We should keep talking and letting others know that no one is alone and we should all work on fixing this together. Again thanks.


Write a letter to the editor for the Fingerlakes Times. I bet it would peak some interest.

I am working on a letter to the editor now. I am not sure what all to put in there and what not too. I want to make sure it makes sense too. sometimes when i am mad i ramble and make no sense.

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#1314278 - 12/29/11 01:41 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: fredfred]
fredfred
Junior Member


Registered: 06/03/11
Posts: 14
Loc: dundee
If I was to post my letter on here, would anyone like to give feedback before I send it out?
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#1314338 - 12/29/11 08:27 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Red22]
Phil213
Senior Member


Registered: 11/23/07
Posts: 558
Loc: ny
"I think that if a group of parents were to go to the media (a newspaper, or the news, post on youtube) you would see some sort of results. There has to be something under the umbrella of not providing a safe place. I feel like it would be the same type of law that employers have to follow. For example, if you tell your boss that someone is harassing you on the job, they have to do something about it or else they can get into a lot of trouble. I would think that there is something like that for schools as well."

Red..you are misinformed about what employers have to do about bullies in the workplace. Bullies in schools turn into bullies at their job when they are out of school. There are no laws protecting an employee from the attacks of a bully in the workplace. Unless you are from a protected class of citizens(i.e. race,sex,creed,national origin,religion) there is no remedy.Therefore if a male bullies another male...an employer is not obligated to do anything about that. Mind you, a decent employer would, but if he/ she doesn't want to be bothered with it, there is nothing an employee can do. It is a terrible situation to be in. You say find another job. Why should someone that has put in a lot of years in a place and is very close to retirement have to leave and start all over again somewhere else because of the actions of someone else? It is just not right. This is why we go to Albany to lobby for a Healthy Workplace Bill. It's getting very close to being passed. Here is a link to a press conference we did last year in Albany:

http://www.healthyworkplacebill.org/blog/ny-press/

To the parents who are trying to get something done about the bullying in school..don't give up. The bully that gets dealt with now may make it easier for the guy he works with in the future. God bless.

P.S. If you want any support/help please PM us.


Edited by Phil213 (12/29/11 08:31 PM)
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Speaking as a citizen about matters of public concern...

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#1314890 - 01/01/12 05:39 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: lighthouselover]
BrendaBabe
Member


Registered: 03/16/10
Posts: 61
Loc: NY, Yates
you got a video and perhaps some docmentation highlighting when you reported this and to whom? Don't "forgive" Get yourself an attorney and get some people terminated.
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#1315413 - 01/03/12 08:51 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: fredfred]
Tobey1
Junior Member


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 2
Loc: Yates County NY
Check out this website: http://www.bullypolice.org/help_for_parents.html
I'm going to try all of those suggestions for my child.

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#1315501 - 01/04/12 12:58 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: Tobey1]
BrendaBabe
Member


Registered: 03/16/10
Posts: 61
Loc: NY, Yates
Close the Dundee School and use the PY Middle School Space?
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#1315968 - 01/05/12 09:34 PM Re: Bullying in Dundee School [Re: BrendaBabe]
JoeSimmons5
Member


Registered: 10/14/09
Posts: 237
Loc: Yates County
Great idea to cut spending this way.
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