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#1331651 - 03/12/12 02:05 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: Top Dog]
hearallseeall
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Must agree with you on this one Lusi. $300,000 night be nothing compared to what we could have collected by now. When they decided they didn't want Halftown, elders were saying they felt it wasn't going proper with us.

Thankfully we have Brad protecting our interests. Another great Village leader.

If you could follow along. . .we haven't collected anything!!

We have given them more money than they ever dreamed of giving the taxpayers.

$500,000 in housing assistance JUST ON Spruce Lane alone.

$300,000 OWED to us.

Free education.

Health Care.

We provide an infrastructure for them.

and the list goes on.

If they want something. . .work for it.

Stop begging for handouts and acting like welfare scum.


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#1331985 - 03/13/12 09:11 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Sarcassm Esq
The SENECA COUNTY "LEADERS" and Racial Rebel Rousers must come to their senses and NEGOTIATE. The NA's are ready.



not sure how the tribe can make a 'deal' at the county level when their land claim was about the tribe not being able to make a 'deal' with the state
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#1332543 - 03/15/12 10:55 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: Dr. Sarcassm Esq]
bluezone
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is cuomo positioning NYS to 'take over' turning stone?
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#1332564 - 03/15/12 12:15 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
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Maybe he could do that legally using "eminent domain".
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#1332668 - 03/15/12 06:42 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: SilverFox]
bluezone
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either that way or by foreclosure

if NYS builds a casino next door halbritter may have to close his down
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#1332705 - 03/15/12 08:29 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
Bob Dole
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BLOWZONE,your problem is that you actually take yourself seriously
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#1332774 - 03/16/12 03:17 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
teedoff27
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
either that way or by foreclosure

if NYS builds a casino next door halbritter may have to close his down


Why close down??..... So there is only one casino in Las Vegas or Atlantic City?? COMPETITION is GOOD!

Also the only way it will work is for them to be open 24/7 as well as offering poker and table games. The current Racinos have NO table games and close at 2-3am and don't reopen till 9-10a.m. The hardcore gamblers at Vernon Downs go to Turning Stone during that time and the ones at Batavia Downs go to Seneca Niagara.

By the Racinos not having table games they alienate entire types of gamblers and rely on 80 year olds playing penny slots for 10 hours in hopes of a free buffet to pay the bills!
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#1332833 - 03/16/12 09:30 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: teedoff27]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Also the only way it will work is for them to be open 24/7 as well as offering poker and table games.


you must not have heard the news out of albany
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#1332862 - 03/16/12 10:14 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: teedoff27]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
http://romesentinel.com/news?newsid=20120315-142221
By DAN GUZEWICH Sentinel staff writer

The Oneida Indian Nation issued a warning in response to the state Legislature's approval of a plan to change the state Constitution to allow Las Vegas-style casinos outside of Indian territory.

"As this process moves forward to potential passage by consecutive state legislatures and a statewide referendum, New Yorkers should hold their elected officials accountable by insuring that they do not allow commercial gaming that serves only to drain community resources and cannibalize the success that local economies have achieved under the existing framework," said the Oneidas. "To that end, the Oneida Nation will remain engaged in this process to ensure that the interests of our community and the families of our 4,500 employees are protected."

The Oneida and Seneca are scared to death that they will have competition even though it will not be on a level playing field.

Yes, heaven forbid that tribal casinos siphoning money off to offshore bank accounts have to compete.
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#1333093 - 03/16/12 10:12 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
Bob Dole
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bump
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#1333112 - 03/16/12 11:05 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: Bob Dole]
polar
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#1333162 - 03/17/12 08:12 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
kyle585
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
is cuomo positioning NYS to 'take over' turning stone?
I would sure like to see that!
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#1333171 - 03/17/12 08:51 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: kyle585]
Bob Dole
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: bluezone
is cuomo positioning NYS to 'take over' turning stone?
I would sure like to see that!


I would like to see the Indians take over NYS they have an easier way of getting rid of their leaders than we do.

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#1333364 - 03/17/12 04:06 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: Bob Dole]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Bob Dole
I would like to see the Indians take over NYS they have an easier way of getting rid of their leaders than we do.


they can not even get halftown removed from his 'position'
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#1333423 - 03/18/12 05:16 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
teedoff27
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I am glad that NY finally got their head out of their butts and are considering this. NYS has spent YEARS and hundreds of millions trying to fight them in court over taxes and everything. This is REAL $$ they can base a budget on instead of *quesstimated/*hope* revenue based on the Natives.

I am telling you I am a fan and frequent Turning Stone and their facilities, and I can tell you a little competition wouldn't hurt. It has seemed like their focus is more on getting BIGGER than *BETTER*

Not only that, but if they do build near TS they can get much more revenue from the hotels "Fairfield" Marriot and the Brand new LaQuinta Suites by filling it more often.
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#1333486 - 03/18/12 02:52 PM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: teedoff27]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not only that, but if they do build near TS


or just foreclose on halbritters illegal operations
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#1333598 - 03/19/12 03:52 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
teedoff27
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not only that, but if they do build near TS


or just foreclose on halbritters illegal operations


Will NEVER happen with so many *Albany fingers* in the *cookie jar*

Also how many YEARS and MILLIONS will that take..... why not just "fight fire with fire" and MAKE millions in the process instead of wasting millions!
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#1333649 - 03/19/12 10:25 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: teedoff27]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Also how many YEARS and MILLIONS will that take.....


the foreclosure process is underway
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#1333651 - 03/19/12 10:26 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: teedoff27]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Also how many YEARS and MILLIONS will that take.....


the foreclosure process is underway
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#1333653 - 03/19/12 10:31 AM Re: Cayuga's Land into Trust App Dismissed [Re: bluezone]
back again
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All the dump threads are locked so u guys fire up the indian thread lol
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