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#1312273 --- 12/18/11 07:34 AM Furnace problems..any ideas?
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Blowing out cold air for about 20-30 minutes then gets warm..that was yesterday..now it won't come out hot at all and will only get up to 63..any suggestions and someone to call?..THANK YOU!!!
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#1312277 --- 12/18/11 07:48 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Interstate Heating and cooling. They repaired my old furnace until I finally got a new one installed. Professional quick service.
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#1312682 --- 12/20/11 08:25 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Blowing out cold air for ...


if it has a standing pilot make sure it has not gone out

does this have an ignitor? (meaning no standing pilot)
ignitor needs to be cleaned or changed

if you have a high-efficient model that vents with PVC then check and make sure there is not anything blocking the outside vents (intake and exhuast)
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#1312777 --- 12/20/11 04:01 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: twocats]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
Interstate Heating and cooling. They repaired my old furnace until I finally got a new one installed. Professional quick service.


LMAO yes acll interstate they`ll stick up so far you have to get warm .beside they installed the thing .The problem was the way it was installed. Now our pour girl has to buy the motherboard herself. DO NOT trust Interstate with quality installations it won`t happen Hang in there Sparky.
Trust me I`m the Dr.
Heat is a coming
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#1312831 --- 12/20/11 07:00 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: twocats]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
They repaired my old furnace until I finally got a new one installed.


hope the total cost for repair & replace was below $3,000
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#1312859 --- 12/20/11 08:35 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Done she has heat cost was a gift. Interstate did not help had all kind of excuses and was only 5yrs old. Bottom line it`s working fine after replacing the control board which water had dripped on because of poor installation.
Merry Christmas Sparkey
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#1312877 --- 12/20/11 10:29 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: twocats
They repaired my old furnace until I finally got a new one installed.


hope the total cost for repair & replace was below $3,000


It was. Included removal too.


Edited by twocats (12/20/11 10:29 PM)
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#1312892 --- 12/21/11 05:15 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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Originally Posted By: 123
Done she has heat cost was a gift. Interstate did not help had all kind of excuses and was only 5yrs old. Bottom line it`s working fine after replacing the control board which water had dripped on because of poor installation.
Merry Christmas Sparkey


THANK YOU!!..I will be taking the damaged motherboard to them today..they will send it out to see if it was their fault or not..I'm sure it will NOT be their fault..LOL
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#1312932 --- 12/21/11 08:05 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Bottom line it`s working fine after replacing the control board which water had dripped on because of poor installation.



the newer units need to be installed very level or this water issue will occur
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#1312962 --- 12/21/11 08:43 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Bottom line it`s working fine after replacing the control board which water had dripped on because of poor installation.



the newer units need to be installed very level or this water issue will occur


whookee do.
Level wasn`t the problem. The hose clamp was not tighted to specs. Just glad I got the family heat before Christmas.
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#1312965 --- 12/21/11 08:50 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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Originally Posted By: 123
The hose clamp was not tighted to specs.


water from the condesation pump would fry the motherboard
poor install
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#1313320 --- 12/22/11 04:01 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: 123
The hose clamp was not tighted to specs.


water from the condesation pump would fry the motherboard
poor install



Just what I said. poor workman ship Haste makes waste oh well Sparkey and family have heat now.
I do hope Interstae makes it right with her.
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#1313416 --- 12/23/11 08:15 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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they may claim that the drain line was kinked or restricted after their install

should be covered by the warranty if it was recently installed
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#1313561 --- 12/23/11 07:41 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Originally Posted By: 123
Done she has heat cost was a gift. Interstate did not help had all kind of excuses and was only 5yrs old. Bottom line it`s working fine after replacing the control board which water had dripped on because of poor installation.
Merry Christmas Sparkey


THANK YOU!!..I will be taking the damaged motherboard to them today..they will send it out to see if it was their fault or not..I'm sure it will NOT be their fault..LOL


I service a lot of heating stoves and if they send it out, you will not know the out come until you get the bill, look at your warranty and hold them to it!!!!!

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#1313563 --- 12/23/11 07:41 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Originally Posted By: 123
Done she has heat cost was a gift. Interstate did not help had all kind of excuses and was only 5yrs old. Bottom line it`s working fine after replacing the control board which water had dripped on because of poor installation.
Merry Christmas Sparkey


THANK YOU!!..I will be taking the damaged motherboard to them today..they will send it out to see if it was their fault or not..I'm sure it will NOT be their fault..LOL


I service a lot of heating stoves and if they send it out, you will not know the out come until you get the bill, look at your warranty and hold them to it!!!!!

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#1313583 --- 12/23/11 10:12 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: MSmith]
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Bluezone they may claim that the drain line was kinked or restricted after their install.

They may but it wasn`t installed properly from the start.
Hose was never put on all the way onto the collar and clamp wan`t even tightend. Again "Haste Makes Waste" just to much in a hurry to check all work before closing the cabinet up.
If it was checked it wouldn`t of happened,period.
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#1313613 --- 12/24/11 08:15 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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Originally Posted By: 123
They may but it wasn`t installed properly from the start.


I agree

was a yearly inspection done on the unit?

it has been in service for 5 years
they may say that you never had them do a yearly inspection
or if someone else did the yearly inspection then the other person could have altered that clamp


it is good that you got their heat back on as the weather is colder

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#1315224 --- 01/03/12 09:06 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Now it`s acting up again. Thermostat might be at fault of little fingers playing around . Heats then wants to cool. It`s a centeral air furnace/airconditing unit. going to install a new control as that`s what she wants but it will be boxed in and locked the mood seems to change when I see it. Tiny fingers is my guess.
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#1315254 --- 01/03/12 12:22 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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has the thermostat been changed in the last 5 years?
does it use batteries?
the thermostat can be by-passed to see if it is acting up
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#1315255 --- 01/03/12 12:23 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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Originally Posted By: 123
Now it`s acting up again. Heats then wants to cool.


does the a/c come on or just the burner goes off for a short time?
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#1315308 --- 01/03/12 03:25 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Nope fresh air limit switch is bad. Batts were replaced last week.
$24.00 replaced new switch
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#1315469 --- 01/04/12 08:38 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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make sure there is not a blockage in the fresh air supply - snow, leaves, childrens toys, debris blown around in the wind...

make sure you test the flame sensor, heat exchanger sensor and the pressure switch for the power vent as they are usually connected

do you think that was the original problem or was the main board also bad?

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#1315470 --- 01/04/12 08:39 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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Nope fresh air limit switch is bad.


sounds correct
check all seals
the flame color will usually change prior to the valve being closed for safety
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#1315471 --- 01/04/12 08:40 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone

if you have a high-efficient model that vents with PVC then check and make sure there is not anything blocking the outside vents (intake and exhuast)
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#1315634 --- 01/04/12 07:47 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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[quote=bluezone]make sure there is not a blockage in the fresh air supply - snow, leaves, childrens toys, debris blown around in the wind...

make sure you test the flame sensor, heat exchanger sensor and the pressure switch for the power vent as they are usually connected

do you think that was the original problem or was the main board also bad?

[/quotYes on mother board. It worked up till a few days ago then crazy things started to happen. The mother board had three fried diodes. But again there had been no maintaince on it at all
so it might have been avoided as for the board issue
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#1315721 --- 01/05/12 07:36 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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The mother board had three fried diodes.


not a good sign
is the new mother board a direct match to the old one?

how long are the intake and exhaust pvc piping?
how many elbows are on each one?
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#1315995 --- 01/05/12 09:31 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: 123
The mother board had three fried diodes.


not a good sign
is the new mother board a direct match to the old one?

how long are the intake and exhaust pvc piping?
how many elbows are on each one?


OEM replacement, it`s all working again.Thank you
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#1316074 --- 01/06/12 10:43 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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it`s all working again.Thank you


good news

you may want to check to rest of the install if it was not done properly from the start

too long of run for the intake or exhuast or too many elbows will create problems with the vent motor/pressure and too much condensation
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#1318546 --- 01/17/12 08:47 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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Originally Posted By: 123
Thank you


check for a seperate single fuse just before it is wired to the unit to keep the main circuit from getting damaged from any surges

best to have a spare electronic ignitor as they tend to fail when the stores are closed
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#1318598 --- 01/17/12 12:19 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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no it`s been working for 5 yrs but no maint was ever done.
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#1318779 --- 01/18/12 07:41 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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can't find a way to lessen up the cold, even turning the thermostat down it wont work. why?
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#1318788 --- 01/18/12 09:11 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: richard]
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can't find a way to lessen up the cold, even turning the thermostat down it wont work. why?


not sure what you are asking
need more details
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#1318819 --- 01/18/12 12:28 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: richard]
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can't find a way to lessen up the cold, even turning the thermostat down it wont work. why?



On crack??
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#1318967 --- 01/19/12 12:25 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: 123]
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my air conditioner just wont work .=(
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#1319047 --- 01/19/12 09:12 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: richard]
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what is the outside temperature?
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#1319357 --- 01/20/12 11:33 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Interstate installed my new furnace 6 yrs ago, when it rained it leaked around the piping they supposedly fixed it ha it still leaks. When it rains I have to keep a towel on top of my furnace to catch the rain drips.

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#1319380 --- 01/20/12 02:00 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Creeper]
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Originally Posted By: Creeper
When it rains I have to keep a towel on top of my furnace to catch the rain drips.


is this from the vent pipe?
is the vent pipe metal or pvc?
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#1496640 --- 03/16/17 09:23 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Blowing out cold air for ...


if it has a standing pilot make sure it has not gone out

does this have an ignitor? (meaning no standing pilot)
ignitor needs to be cleaned or changed

if you have a high-efficient model that vents with PVC then check and make sure there is not anything blocking the outside vents (intake and exhuast)


snow drifts may block the intake or exhaust pvc line
clear the snow away from either one
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#1496669 --- 03/16/17 01:58 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Creeper]
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Originally Posted By: Creeper
Interstate installed my new furnace 6 yrs ago, when it rained it leaked around the piping they supposedly fixed it ha it still leaks. When it rains I have to keep a towel on top of my furnace to catch the rain drips.

Ventilation, roof flashing and pipe insulation and blow-back may also bring "leaks".

As BZ points outs, if there isn't proper 'flow-through' condensation inside duct/pipes, could be the culprit.

Interstate should be happy [willing] to check it out.
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#1497089 --- 03/28/17 07:40 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Creeper
When it rains I have to keep a towel on top of my furnace to catch the rain drips.


if rain is getting in then 'heated' air is leaking out causing higher heat bills

if the vent goes thru the roof then water is damaging the wood sections of your roof
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#1497109 --- 03/29/17 05:50 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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The fact that the furnace is 6 years old, there's a 100% likelihood that it's a high energy furnace with no chimney but utilizing PVC piping, the "rain" is more than likely condensation which the new furnaces produce. I'm also thinking that since this person posted this several month ago, the problem has since been resolved and the tech found a malfunctioning CPU.
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#1497118 --- 03/29/17 08:09 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The fact that the furnace is 6 years old, there's a 100% likelihood that it's a high energy furnace


incorrect
they still sell 80% furnaces - $500

Originally Posted By: Formermac
the "rain" is more than likely condensation which the new furnaces produce.


it sounds like it only happens when it rains
most likely not condensation based on the limited information provided

Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'm also thinking that since this person posted this several month ago, the problem has since been resolved and the tech found a malfunctioning CPU.


the motherboard has nothing to do with rain or condensation

if the motherboard failed the furnace would NOT work and there would be NO condensation on a non-running furnace
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#1497135 --- 03/29/17 04:43 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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No contest, I'm a electrician who have installed and wired hundreds of furnace, I bet the ranch that you don't even know how to diagnose a motherboard or secondary fan. BTW, 80% or 95%, neither requires a chimney and both produces condensation. whistle
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#1497136 --- 03/29/17 04:47 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: 123
The mother board had three fried diodes.


not a good sign
is the new mother board a direct match to the old one?

how long are the intake and exhaust pvc piping?
how many elbows are on each one?



MY MY, you just made an idiot of yourself by posting the problem found.
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#1497138 --- 03/29/17 07:09 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
No contest, I'm a electrician who have installed and wired hundreds of furnace,




wiring a furnace is far different than installing the entire unit

wiring 101

black wire to black wire (hot)
white wire to white wire (common)
ground wire to ground wire (bare copper wire)

LOL


Originally Posted By: Formermac
I bet the ranch that you don't even know how to diagnose a motherboard or secondary fan.


inducer...

you will lose your ranch... grin
is it a motherboard or a
Originally Posted By: Formermac
CPU
?

LOL

Originally Posted By: Formermac
BTW, 80% or 95%, neither requires a chimney and both produces condensation.


80% requires a metal vent pipe (flue) to a chimney or double wall exhaust pipe as the temperatures are too high and it will melt a pvc/plastic exhaust pipe

20% of the heat the 80% furnace produces goes out the exhaust and that is why the rating is 80% (100%-80%=20%)

the exhaust temps are much higher compared to a 95% furnace

the 95% can be vented with pvc/plastic line as the exhaust temperatures are low enough that it will not melt the pvc exhaust line

only 5% of the heat the 95% furnace produces goes out the exhaust and that is why the rating is 95% (100%-95%=5%)

a 'chimney' is required if the exhaust lacks a fan aka 'chimney effect'

but of course you knew all that grin
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#1497140 --- 03/29/17 07:24 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: 123
The mother board had three fried diodes.


MY MY, you just made an idiot of yourself by posting the problem found.


Quote:
Originally Posted By: 123
The mother board had three fried diodes.
Originally Posted By: Creeper
When it rains I have to keep a towel on top of my furnace to catch the rain drips.


poster '123' and poster 'Creeper' had two different unrelated problems

one (123) had a bad motherboard and the other (Creeper) has a condition when it rains

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#1497142 --- 03/29/17 09:28 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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yes I'm laughing son, ever run a furnace without electricity?
Once again, we won't get into a nonsensical debate for the reason that the furnace is fix and I've forgotten more then you'll every comprehend. Post your electrical license and DBA....what? you don't have either? Not surprising none whatsoever. We're done here. whistle
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#1497147 --- 03/30/17 09:04 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The fact that the furnace is 6 years old, there's a 100% likelihood that it's a high energy furnace


Originally Posted By: Formermac
BTW, 80% or 95%, neither requires a chimney and both produces condensation.



thought you state that it was 100% a high 'energy' furnace and not an 80% furnace?

the term is high EFFICIENCY furnace not a a high 'energy' furnace...

an 80% furnace can not be vented with a plastic pipe because it will melt the pipe

if you have a natural gas water heater it most likely is vented into a metal pipe
because it is most likely an 80% water heater

better not touch the metal vent pipe of the water heater when the unit is on or you will lose some skin blush
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#1497148 --- 03/30/17 09:12 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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ROTFLMAO, funny how one post sends a squirrely individual to village idiot heaven. Tell me Blue, explain a diode and what is it's purpose, explain the mechanics of a onan generator, tell me how would you wire a disconnect switch and would your install it on the generator or service box? In regard to a 100% furnace, show me where I stated something as stupid as what you implied. Finally, on your test, explain a copper magnet function? grin
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#1497149 --- 03/30/17 09:17 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
yes I'm laughing son,


good for you


Originally Posted By: Formermac
ever run a furnace without electricity?


if you go over to a clients home because their light fixture is not working
you determine that the fixture only has one bulb and that the one bulb is blown
you replace the bulb

do you then go home and tell your friends that becuase you replaced one bulb in a light fixture that you have the knowledge to build that entire home?

LOL

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Once again, we won't get into a nonsensical debate for the reason that the furnace is fix and I've forgotten more then you'll every comprehend.



keep backtracking...


Originally Posted By: Formermac
Post your electrical license and DBA....what? you don't have either?


ever heard of a LLC?
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#1497150 --- 03/30/17 09:25 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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I own an electrical business and you?
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#1497151 --- 03/30/17 09:30 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: richard]
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Originally Posted By: richard
my air conditioner just wont work .=(


sometimes the easiest thing to check first is if the thermostat has batteries to check/replace the batteries
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#1497152 --- 03/30/17 09:30 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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BTW, I had a house built in 2013, guess who designed it, wired it, installed the boiler, ran the tubing, hot water heater, kitchen etc. It's a pretty cheap proposition when someone else can dig the basement, build the blocks, frame, roof, sidings, windows, insulation, drywall and you take it from there, now once again, your expertise is what?
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#1497154 --- 03/30/17 09:46 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: richard
my air conditioner just wont work .=(


sometimes the easiest thing to check first is if the thermostat has batteries to check/replace the batteries


Better yet, grab a fluke meter to see if 220 is there, if there's no current, check the breaker. wink
They call your style of operation "A##%$ Backward."
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#1497180 --- 03/31/17 07:33 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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I own an electrical business


thought you were a HVAC installer? whistle

Originally Posted By: Fomermac
I'm a electrician who have installed and wired hundreds of furnace
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#1497183 --- 03/31/17 07:59 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: richard
my air conditioner just wont work .=(


sometimes the easiest thing to check first is if the thermostat has batteries to check/replace the batteries


Better yet, grab a fluke meter to see if 220 is there,


furnaces run on 120 volts not 220 volt grin
most homeowwners do not own a meter for testing voltage wink or know how to use it

Originally Posted By: Formermac
if there's no current, check the breaker.


or just check the breaker first because most homeowners do not own a test meter

Originally Posted By: Formermac
They call your style of operation "A##%$ Backward."


the batteries in the thermostat are more likely to run out of a charge before your situtation would present itself especially if the thermostat operates the furnace and the air conditioning functions

but you knew all that...

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#1497184 --- 03/31/17 08:17 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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One problem, idiot (you) fails to acknowledge that new furnaces have mother boards which have the ability to do self diagnosis, which reveals another fact, said idiot do not know the codes being displayed on the motherboard. Tell me, do you test your batteries by the old method of tongue being placed on battery terminal? grin
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#1497186 --- 03/31/17 08:23 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: richard
my air conditioner just wont work .=(


sometimes the easiest thing to check first is if the thermostat has batteries to check/replace the batteries


Better yet, grab a fluke meter to see if 220 is there,


furnaces run on 120 volts not 220 volt grin
most homeowwners do not own a meter for testing voltage wink or know how to use it

Originally Posted By: Formermac
if there's no current, check the breaker.


or just check the breaker first because most homeowners do not own a test meter

Originally Posted By: Formermac
They call your style of operation "A##%$ Backward."


the batteries in the thermostat are more likely to run out of a charge before your situtation would present itself especially if the thermostat operates the furnace and the air conditioning functions

but you knew all that...



What happens if the batteries are proven to be good? secondly, a thermostat is wired to 24 volts DC and the batteries are solely for the benefit of maintaining your preset programs. You know what they call people like your self? Fool or emergency room patients.
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#1497193 --- 03/31/17 09:01 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
One problem, idiot (you) fails to acknowledge that new furnaces have mother boards which have the ability to do self diagnosis,


when I reference the thermostat it was regarding the air conditioner problem

air conditioners do not have self diagnosis codes

it is you that has gotten off track - yet again


Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: richard
my air conditioner just wont work .=(

sometimes the easiest thing to check first is if the thermostat has batteries to check/replace the batteries


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#1497194 --- 03/31/17 09:09 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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False once again, ACs all have mother boards, look it up before embarrassing yourself once again. Solenoids, switches, resisters are now integrated into the motherboard. In your case, you must first first get on track before derailing yourself.
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#1497196 --- 03/31/17 09:20 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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What happens if the batteries are proven to be good?


some brands of thermostat are known to be unreliable

unmount the thermostat from the wall and then connect the two wires going to the furnace or use a jumper

if the furnace activates then the thermostat has failed

the older mercury thermostats were far more reliable than the newer non-mercury ones


Originally Posted By: Formermac
a thermostat is wired to 24 volts DC and the batteries are solely for the benefit of maintaining your preset programs.


incorrect

the 24 volts only runs thru the thermostat to activate the relay in the furnace
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#1497197 --- 03/31/17 09:21 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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I must ask you a simple question, how old is your AC unit and furnace?
Also tell me the difference between digital and analog and how they determine motherboard adverse to mechanical?
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#1497198 --- 03/31/17 09:28 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
What happens if the batteries are proven to be good?


some brands of thermostat are known to be unreliable

unmount the thermostat from the wall and then connect the two wires going to the furnace or use a jumper

if the furnace activates then the thermostat has failed

the older mercury thermostats were far more reliable than the newer non-mercury ones


Originally Posted By: Formermac
a thermostat is wired to 24 volts DC and the batteries are solely for the benefit of maintaining your preset programs.


incorrect

the 24 volts only runs thru the thermostat to activate the relay in the furnace

the batteries operate the micro electronics functions of the thermostat as the mercury switch has been removed



ROTFLMAO, I thought that at least you even Google it, somewhat basic laymen term but what you post is hilarious. I see you as someone that talks with the doctor just prior to going under anesthesia and tell the physician where and how to make the incision. Keep responding because I'm stir crazy today and need a little entertainment.
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#1497199 --- 03/31/17 09:33 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
What happens if the batteries are proven to be good?


some brands of thermostat are known to be unreliable

unmount the thermostat from the wall and then connect the two wires going to the furnace or use a jumper

if the furnace activates then the thermostat has failed

the older mercury thermostats were far more reliable than the newer non-mercury ones


Originally Posted By: Formermac
a thermostat is wired to 24 volts DC and the batteries are solely for the benefit of maintaining your preset programs.


incorrect

the 24 volts only runs thru the thermostat to activate the relay in the furnace

the batteries operate the micro electronics functions of the thermostat as the mercury switch has been removed



ROTFLMAO, I thought that at least you even Google it, somewhat basic laymen term but what you post is hilarious. I see you as someone that talks with the doctor just prior to going under anesthesia and tell the physician where and how to make the incision. Keep responding because I'm stir crazy today and need a little entertainment.


Why would you dismount the thermostat when the terminals are right in front of you and a piece of wire can be used as a jumper? Better yet, when using your logic, why not just touch the correspondent wires together to operate the furnace or AC? Ever hear of a multi functional thermostat which control the AC and furnace? Ever hear of a remote thermostat than can be regulated from a different location, ever seen an RTU system?
It's disturbing that you give advice on a subject that you know nothing about, ALL thermostats are reliable whether you purchase it from Walmart or spend $200.00 at the plumbing and heating store. The basic function is there, you pay for the added features and capability.
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#1497223 --- 03/31/17 03:16 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I had a house built in 2013, guess who designed it, wired it, installed the boiler, ran the tubing, hot water heater, kitchen etc. It's a pretty cheap proposition when someone else can dig the basement, build the blocks, frame, roof, sidings, windows, insulation, drywall and you take it from there, now once again, your expertise is what?


one would think that if you dug the basement you would have also installed a geo
thermal heat pump thereby reducing your heating and cooling costs by nearly 80%

the major expense to a geothermal heat pump is digging the area to bury the lines and if you had the equipment and the know how to dig your own area then the cost to install would be far less than the boiler

with a boiler you do not get the air conditioning aspect

but of course you already knew that...
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#1497224 --- 03/31/17 03:34 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
ROTFLMAO, I thought that at least you even Google it,


what is there to google?

the fact that you think that a forced air furnace runs on 220 volts is completely false
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#1497225 --- 03/31/17 03:48 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Why would you dismount the thermostat when the terminals are right in front of you


the manufacture would not leave exposed terminals

the thermostat is mounted to a wall plate

you unscrew the thermostat from the wall plate to expose the wires

Originally Posted By: Formermac
ALL thermostats are reliable


there are a few that are less reliable and rather then call for service an individual can do some very basic steps before needing a service call/charge
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#1497226 --- 03/31/17 03:54 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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I'm stir crazy today


you are like that EVERDAY whistle
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#1497228 --- 03/31/17 04:06 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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For the most part, I'm have an even temperament, so you're partially correct but my attitude is in regard to a fool that attempts to debate with a 34 year electrician. Now once again, your expertise is in what area? there's a reason that Home depot and Lowes place certain employees in the paint department and bar them from any form of technical service or advice. What is is disconnect switch?

Never met anyone that can make 12 posts and all 12 are misconceptions and misinformation......SCARY to say the least, not to mention dangerous.
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#1497229 --- 03/31/17 04:09 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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How many electric motors have you wired, how do you convert AC to DC or vice versa? How do you step down voltage?
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#1497231 --- 03/31/17 04:13 PM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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What's the difference between a Square D or red dot breaker? what value would you use for a furnace or AC unit? how do you daisy chain a kitchen while utilizing GFIs .
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#1497255 --- 04/01/17 08:04 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
debate with a 34 year electrician.


you claim to have 34 years of experience but you stated that a forced air furnace runs off of 220 volts

that is completely false

Originally Posted By: Formermac
I own an electrical business


you own an electrical business but yet you do not know the difference between 120 volts and 220 volts...

Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'm a electrician who have installed and wired hundreds of furnace


you claim to have installed hundreds of furnaces but you stated that the furnace runs off of 220 volts which is completely incorrect

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Better yet, grab a fluke meter to see if 220 is there, if there's no current


a furnace DOES NOT run off of 220 volts

it runs off of 120 volts just like a natural gas clothes dryer
the major electrical component in a natural gas dryer is the motor to drive the drum and blower
the major electrical component in a natural gas furnace is a similar motor for the blower - that is why it is called a forced air furnace

an electric clothes dryer runs off of 220 volts and the higher voltage is for the heating elements

a natural gas clothes dryer does not need 220 volts because the natural gas heat dries the clothes

but of course you knew all of that...
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#1497257 --- 04/01/17 08:43 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
new furnaces have mother boards which have the ability to do self diagnosis

the codes being displayed on the motherboard.


the 80% furnaces are basic models and do not need codes

either the gas valve and blower is working or they are not

but of course you knew that...
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#1497258 --- 04/01/17 08:52 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
ACs all have mother boards

Solenoids, switches, resisters are now integrated into the motherboard.


circuit board

there are not codes needed for an a/c unit

the a/c consists of the outside condensor and the inside coil

if you can not determine the fault at either one of those components you need to ask hillary for a job grin

(ps - it is resistors not resisters)
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#1497259 --- 04/01/17 09:30 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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I would say that you're in need of an medication adjustment, where you come up with some of these supposed thing I've said speaks volume to your mental state. Now if you think that I have anything to prove to a person a works behind a counter and ask the question "You want fries with that" In the final analogy, I'm getting a royal laugh out of the fact that I receive a nice pension and comfortable lifestyle out of NOT doing for a living that which you do. It's obvious that in your mind you know something but in reality, there's a reason that you lived off menial jobs all your life. BTW, don't forget to pick up a few copper magnets at your local hardware store. grin
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#1497277 --- 04/02/17 07:54 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
where you come up with some of these supposed thing I've said speaks volume to your mental state


what are you confused about?

your 'quotes' are directly from your own posts

see the interesting thing about a forum where you have to type in your response is that when you type out your response it can be viewed at a later date to show the conflict in your own statements

Originally Posted By: Formermac
Now if you think that I have anything to prove to a person a works behind a counter


who said you had to 'prove' anything?

you made a number of statements that lacked any merit

a furnace does NOT run off of 220 volts was one of many incorrect statements you made

you stated you installed hundreds of furnaces

one does not install hundreds of furnaces and then state a furnace is connected to a 220 volt electric line

a 220 volt line would damage the furnace

you stated that your an electrician with 34 years of 'experience'

an electrician with 34 years of 'experience' would know that there is 120 volts, 240 volts, 360 volts , 480 volts...

sometimes people refer to 240 volts as 220 volts

but of course you knew all that...
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#1497279 --- 04/02/17 08:11 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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yes I'm laughing my butt off because you've just perjured yourself by stating that I said this or that. Now for a little education my son, on a fluke meter showing a live graph of AC, the voltage values are more realistically 120 and 219 respectively because a dummy like yourself knows that voltage has the tendency to "sag" and "peak" what happens to a electrical component when this scenario exist. Now here is your chance to redeem any credibility you think you possess, a lack of response only confirms what most of us already know, your expertise in the area of mechanical is limited to possibly changing a light bulb.
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#1497281 --- 04/02/17 08:20 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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I'll help you out son, what is line conditioning? why do we need it? what's the value of a resistor having a painted stripe of purple and gold... remember son, no cheating by asking Google.
I don't need to make a fool of you solely for the fact that you've done that ALL BY YOURSELF.
lastly, one more question, how do you mount a thermostat on a wall if you can't take the front cover off.......I'm getting my body cast off Wednesday and this will allow me to roll on the floor laughing by blank off.
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#1497283 --- 04/02/17 08:31 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Now for a little education my son


so how many furnaces did you connect to a 220 volt line?
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#1497284 --- 04/02/17 08:33 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Why m I not surprise in regard to your lack of knowledge? grin
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#1497285 --- 04/02/17 08:35 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
the voltage values are more realistically 120


ever heard of 360 volts and 480 volts?
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#1497286 --- 04/02/17 08:36 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Have you ever utilized 208 voltage?
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#1497288 --- 04/02/17 08:43 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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I think that my work is done, you're avoiding all the pertinent questions for the obvious, you ask questions that within itself shows a lack of understanding. One more question, what happens when I parallel 2 sets of 120 volts on BUSS bar?
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#1497290 --- 04/02/17 08:53 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
220


Originally Posted By: Formermac
208


and which voltage is your answer?
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#1497291 --- 04/02/17 08:57 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
One more question


how many furnaces did you connect to a 220 line?
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#1497292 --- 04/02/17 08:59 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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ROTFLMBO, you tell me son, today I'm the student and you're the instructor but be warned, if I show any signs of disbelief or doubt please don't take it personally.
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#1497293 --- 04/02/17 09:03 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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ROTFLMAO, the fool asked approximately 50 questions but never construe baseboard heating as a source of heating, which is primarily wired to what? yes you are that stupid by virtue of being just who you are.
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#1497294 --- 04/02/17 09:04 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
ROTFLMBO


Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Deflection. Oldest game in the book.
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#1497295 --- 04/02/17 09:10 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
never construe baseboard heating as a source of heating, which is primarily wired to what?


so now you are stating that when you connected a furnace to a 220 volt line that it was not a furnace but rather electric baseboard heat

electric baseboard heat does NOT require a furnace

odd that there was never any mention of electric baseboard heat on this thread until just now you brought it up to cover your tracks

LOL

there are two forms of baseboard heat
electric and hot water

hot water is related to a boiler and not a furnace
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#1497296 --- 04/02/17 09:24 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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No I'm implying that we have before us today, one great big idiot who reminds me a an incident which is actually true. A customer called and stated that his wall receptacle was dead and his PC wouldn't fire up. Upon arriving there, he lead me to the "malfunctioning culprit but can you imagine my surprise when he moved the couch to expose a unplugged power strip connecting his PC and printer? Well, you can be compared to said individual but only one difference, he had the humor to laugh at himself whereas, you'll spend several days attempting to say that you unplugged it intentionally because in your area of expertise, you start there to diagnose the problem. Usually most experts like myself can spot an idiot by not what they say but more so by what they fail to mention which in this case, you missed several opportunities to be construed at minimal an amateur.
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#1497299 --- 04/02/17 09:36 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
A customer called and stated that his wall receptacle was dead and his PC wouldn't fire up.


did you run a 220 volt line to his computer? grin
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#1497301 --- 04/02/17 09:43 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Nope, I let him replug the power strip to the outlet and turned on his computer, after that ,charged him $75.00 bucks callout. Now that I've played you for a fool many time over, I am actually feeling guilty about patronizing you and will leave you with 2 points

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

Never argue with fool because they win ever time because they are so proficient in the area of buffoonery.
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#1497303 --- 04/02/17 10:06 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I let him replug the power strip to the outlet and turned on his computer, after that ,charged him $75.00 bucks callout.


Originally Posted By: Forermac
I'm getting a royal laugh out of the fact that I receive a nice pension and comfortable lifestyle


one would think that with your 'nice pension and comfortable lifestyle' you would not need to charge him $75
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#1497319 --- 04/03/17 07:15 AM Re: Furnace problems..any ideas? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: richard
my air conditioner just wont work .=(


sometimes the easiest thing to check first is if the thermostat has batteries to check/replace the batteries
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