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#1337114 - 04/08/12 12:01 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Ayuveda]
rj1
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Originally Posted By: rj1
Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
No attack. Just pointing out your redundancy.


As if people's activism to defend their environment is a bad thing.

Sure big guy.





You are acknowledging that bad information was used in the past to pursue your causes. All I ask is you base your arguments on facts not what if's and scare tactics. such as the Guardian Glass fiasco.



You're mixing your talking points. I've never once mentioned Guardian OR windmills in these forums.








My comments weren't directed at you directly but at enviromental activism in general and how 90% of their comments are way off base.


Edited by rj1 (04/08/12 12:04 PM)

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#1337118 - 04/08/12 12:52 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: rj1]
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It doesn't matter who hes talking to...its all the same...
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#1337132 - 04/08/12 04:12 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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Originally Posted By: Genevan
It doesn't matter who hes talking to...its all the same...


You don't like it because I point out all your inaccuracies which you can't defend.

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#1337143 - 04/08/12 06:10 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: rj1]
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Wow, at least it appears that you may have consulted a dictionary using words like "refute" and "purport". Good for you!
In this thread, at least, I have to say it appears to me that it is you who is in "attack" mode with your use of name calling and derogatory statements.
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#1337144 - 04/08/12 06:13 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Gluskap]
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http://www.observer-review.com/news.php?viewStory=2996

Inergy wants confidential ruling for project
READING—The firm Bond Schoeneck & King, PLLC has submitted an appeal on behalf of Inergy to the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation concerning the company’s quantitative risk analysis (QRA).
Inergy, parent company of Finger Lakes LPG Storage, had agreed to do a QRA of its proposed $40 million liquid petroleum gas storage and transfer facility in Reading. However, Inergy also wanted that QRA to be kept confidential when it was submitted on March 9. The DEC initially ruled the document would not be confidential, but gave Inergy time to file an appeal. Linda Vera, DEC citizen specialist, said Bond Schoeneck & King submitted that appeal on March 29 and that it is currently under review; no date is available for when the review will be complete.
David Bimber, DEC regional permit administrator, previously explained Inergy’s “letter did not adequately support withholding the (QRA) document from public disclosure.” He said Inergy claimed the QRA contained confidential commercial information and/or critical infrastructure data. He said that infrastructure information is kept confidential to prevent vandalism or terrorism. However, after looking at the document Bimber said the state “disagreed with both ascertains on the part of the company.”
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#1337150 - 04/08/12 06:39 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Gluskap]
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Garbage in garbage out.


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#1337151 - 04/08/12 06:41 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Gluskap]
rj1
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Originally Posted By: Gluskap
Wow, at least it appears that you may have consulted a dictionary using words like "refute" and "purport". Good for you!
In this thread, at least, I have to say it appears to me that it is you who is in "attack" mode with your use of name calling and derogatory statements.


If pointing out past blunders is derogatory then so be it. That's why your numbers will always be minimal. People know most of the stuff you push is crap at best.

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#1337155 - 04/08/12 06:43 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: rj1]
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wiseguy, gasguy, dieselman, brainman...when's the next ban coming?
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#1337157 - 04/08/12 06:44 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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Originally Posted By: Genevan
Garbage in garbage out.




Next you had better make sure your statements are accurate before you run your mouth. Your statements will follow you forever. Can't dismiss them can you? I won't let you forget!

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#1337159 - 04/08/12 06:49 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: rj1]
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If you go to this can you talk about how melting diapers will save the world?

Geneva, New York – April 5, 2012 – David and Helen Slottje, founders of the Community Environmental Defense Council, Inc. (CEDC), will present a public forum on how to use local government land-use authority to protect public health, safety, and community assets in the face of high-impact land uses such as gas drilling. The forum will be held at Albright Auditorium on the campus of Hobart and William Smith Colleges on Tuesday, April 24th from 6:30-8:30 p.m.
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#1337160 - 04/08/12 06:52 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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Ooopsy...they dont want it...wonder why?

Grisanti's Hydro-Fracking Legislation
11:21 PM, Apr 7, 2012
Grisanti hopes to prevent wastewater from the fracking process from being trucked to Western New York to be treated, and made safe. Gristanti's District currently includes both Buffalo and Niagara Falls.
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#1337161 - 04/08/12 06:54 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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Oh no, they dont want it either eh?
Kinda like gasification, leachate lines and injection wells...no one wants it...

The Canadian province of Quebec has moved from a de facto ban on shale gas development to a complete and total moratorium after a report issued by a special body.
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#1337164 - 04/08/12 07:00 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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Originally Posted By: Genevan
Ooopsy...they dont want it...wonder why?

Grisanti's Hydro-Fracking Legislation
11:21 PM, Apr 7, 2012
Grisanti hopes to prevent wastewater from the fracking process from being trucked to Western New York to be treated, and made safe. Gristanti's District currently includes both Buffalo and Niagara Falls.



It's grandstanding people like you. It's a moot point becuse all wastewater will be recycled very soon.


Edited by rj1 (04/08/12 07:01 PM)

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#1337166 - 04/08/12 07:02 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: rj1]
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Soon eh...sure....
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#1337167 - 04/08/12 07:04 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
rj1
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Originally Posted By: Genevan
Oh no, they dont want it either eh?
Kinda like gasification, leachate lines and injection wells...no one wants it...

The Canadian province of Quebec has moved from a de facto ban on shale gas development to a complete and total moratorium after a report issued by a special body.


Gasification is doing well shows how much you know. The other two are subject to people like you and your buddies using scare tactics and lies to alarm people. Now because of people like you everybody in Geneva pays.

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#1337168 - 04/08/12 07:06 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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Originally Posted By: Genevan
Soon eh...sure....



The numbers speak for themselves. Oh I forgot you have trouble interpretating numbers. Remember the wind data and saying the windmills will never turn. OOOOOOPSY ON YOUR PART! LOL!

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#1337170 - 04/08/12 07:11 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
rj1
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Originally Posted By: Genevan
Garbage in garbage out.





Rember this posting?


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Loc: Geneva They wont spin because this region has been classified as a "marginal" wind power area. It doesn't matter if they are a few hundred feet off the ground or not. 5 year return, LOL. Notice how there is no discussion of local meteorology and generation rates?

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#1337173 - 04/08/12 07:25 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: rj1]
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Just looked out my window...no spinning.

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#1337175 - 04/08/12 07:32 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Genevan]
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I might be mistaken, but in high winds the blades are locked. I have seen them turn in wind I thought was light, and must say was impressed. IMHO I think they are actually quite nice! Wish I had a residential on my property!
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#1337176 - 04/08/12 07:37 PM Re: DEC public hearing on LPG storage Sept 27 [Re: Roadtrip2nowhere]
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Locking in high winds...just when they can harness the most power...brilliant...
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