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#1315062 --- 01/02/12 08:33 PM Re: "Entitlements" [Re: Ayuveda]
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January 02, 2012 12:40 PM
For no reason, Santorum ‘singled out blacks’
By Steve Benen
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Over the weekend, Rick Santorum told an Iowa audience, “Diversity creates conflict. If we celebrate diversity, we create conflict.” It seemed like an odd thing for a presidential candidate to say.

The line does, however, help explain a bit about how the Republican presidential candidate thinks. (via Jamil Smith)

“Having that strong foundation of the faith and family allows America to be in a position where we can be more free,” Santorum says. “We can be free because we are good decent moral people.”

For Santorum that means cutting government regulation. Making Americans less dependent on government aid. Fewer people getting food stamps, Medicaid and other forms of federal assistance — especially one group.

“I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money,” Santorum begins. “I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families.”

Santorum did not elaborate on why he singled out blacks who rely on federal assistance. The voters here didn’t seem to care [emphasis added].

Why didn’t Ron Paul’s racist screed undermine his campaign in Iowa? This might have something to do with it.

As for Santorum, this is the sort of subtle racism — much like Newt Gingrich’s recent comments about low-income youth — that Republicans often don’t recognize as being racist. In Santorum’s mind, when he thinks of programs like food stamps, he automatically associates them with “black people’s lives.”

Why? Just because.

Also note the substance behind the policy position: Santorum thinks he’ll improve “black people’s lives” just as soon as he makes it harder for low-income families to eat and get medical care.

There’s a reason this guy lost re-election by 19 points in his home state
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#1315065 --- 01/02/12 08:58 PM Re: "Entitlements" [Re: twocats]
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Sweet guy. Iron fist in a velvet glove.

Santorum: Curtail Single Motherhood "To Reduce The Democratic Advantage"

Brian Tashman

October 14, 2011

While speaking with Family Research Council president Tony Perkins on yesterday’s edition of Today’s Issues, Rick Santorum argued that single mothers were the “political base” of the Democratic Party, and that Republicans should work to lessen single motherhood in order to score political points against their Democratic rivals. The Democratic Party, Santorum said, relies on “single mothers who run a household” and have a “desire for government” as their voter base, and concluded that building “two parent families” is necessary “to reduce the Democratic advantage.”

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#1315162 --- 01/03/12 03:29 AM Re: "Entitlements" [Re: twocats]
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Ron Paul addresses charges of racism on CNN - 12/22/2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk3EhCmhEJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXKKf0wZ69M

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#1315165 --- 01/03/12 04:22 AM Re: "Entitlements" [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Ron Paul addresses charges of racism on CNN - 12/22/2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk3EhCmhEJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXKKf0wZ69M



Team Doc Ron are scurrying for damage control, as well they should.

The Bigots and Billionaires in Ron Paul’s Orbit

Posted on Dec 22, 2011

By Joe Conason

The latest evidence of simmering racial resentment on the American political fringe showed up Monday in a Facebook post by a California man who urged the assassination of the president and his two daughters in obscene, racist language. Aside from the Secret Service, there was little reason for most of us to pay attention to this sick boob—except that he was identified as a local political leader of the tea party and an avid supporter of Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas Republican who now seems likely to place first in the Iowa presidential caucuses.

To those who have followed Paul’s long career as a failed presidential candidate—these campaigns have become a family business—the appearance of yet another racist nut job in his orbit is scarcely news. The newsletters that earned millions of dollars for him from gullible subscribers over the decades were often soiled with vile invectives against blacks and other minorities. He is a perennial favorite of the John Birch Society and kindred extremists on the right. He once refused to return a donation from a leader of the Nazi-worshipping skinheads in the Stormfront movement.

What is it about the kindly old doctor that attracts some of the most violent and reactionary elements in society to his banner?

For many years, Paul was merely an outlying crank in the ranks of the Republican Party—a “libertarian” who courted the paranoid bigots in the John Birch Society, whose monthly magazine featured his name on its masthead as a “contributing editor.” More than a decade ago, during his 1996 campaign for Congress, the racist ravings in his newsletters were first exposed—the same series of articles that besmirched Martin Luther King and Barbara Jordan and encouraged every racist stereotype about African-Americans as criminals and welfare dependents. He disowns those words now, but back then a spokesman defended them as merely “taken out of context.”

Back then, his rhetorical flirtations with the White Citizens Councils hardly mattered. Almost nobody bothered to listen seriously to his urgings that America return to the gold standard, repeal the income tax and the direct election of U.S. senators and erase all of the advances of the past century in protecting the public from cyclical depressions, poisonous food, water, air and drugs, and the insecurities of poverty, old age and ill health. Most Americans still could remember when this Darwinian ideology influenced policy and knew that the nation was not better off—except for a few robber barons—back in the days before Theodore Roosevelt inaugurated the Progressive Era, beginning a century of reform.

On the far right, including wealthy figures such as the Koch family that once supported the Birch Society and now backs the tea party, there are many who share Paul’s brand of political nostalgia. Kindly and gentle as he appears, Paul has always known how to sound the dog whistle that excites them, whether it was in the race-baiting that adorned his newsletters for years, the claims that medicine served us better before Medicare and Medicaid or the campaign against the Federal Reserve. Although Paul has occasionally disavowed his supporters on the ultra-right when political expediency demanded it, they have never abandoned him—and they won’t, because whether or not he is actually a racial bigot, he shares their disdain for the 20th century.

There is little reason to worry about the policies of a Paul administration, despite his current lead in the Iowa polls. But the rise of the tea party and the vacuum of leadership in the Republican Party have created a space for Paul’s lethal fantasies, which if enacted would return us to the bad old days of mass poverty, rampant pollution, racial supremacy and all the other ills that characterized the America of the robber barons.


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#1315974 --- 01/06/12 02:54 AM Re: "Entitlements" [Re: Ayuveda]
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The Die Hard Occupants



Holding the ground till crocuses bloom next Spring.
05 Jan 2012

In Auckland. In London. In Newfoundland. In Austin, Boulder, Delaware, Buffalo and DC, they’re hanging in there against all odds, defending sacred ground for what will surely be the magical soil of Spring. As we indoors continue brainstorming, networking and tactical planning for the actions to come, lets take a moment to celebrate those inspirational die hards hanging in there through Winter. Our hearts go out to you … you are our heroes … we are in awe of your resolve.

Here is a message from Occupy Newfoundland, Canada's last-standing encampment:

"Day 83. We have survived critique from politicians, citizens and media. Been pelted with rain, sleet and snowstorms. Endured the cold, damp and windy conditions that only the turbulent Atlantic Ocean can offer. We have tolerated and embraced the difference of opinion on the major issues we as people and as a society are now facing, for we believe only dialogue and communication without violence is the key to our success. Occupy has more to do with becoming engaged in your community, city, country and own personal ambitions and beliefs than it does with Occupying a park or a tent. It’s the reflection of the desire and hope inside the people of this planet. This is why we remain, this is why we will persevere … Occupy Newfoundland/Everywhere 2012 and beyond."
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#1317127 --- 01/11/12 12:51 PM ML King Day [Re: Ayuveda]
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#J15 Worldwide Candlelight Vigil for Unity

Jan. 9, 2012 by OccupyWallSt


Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Birthday
January 15th, 2012 @ 7:00pm in Each Time Zone Globally

Via J15global.com: On his birthday and in the spirit of Dr. King's vision for racial and economic equality, peace, and non-violence, we are holding candlelight vigils to unite our world in a global movement for systemic change.

Wherever we may be, whether in our homes, in city squares, online, Occupies, or at work, we lift a beautiful message high above the political dialogue. We light the dream of a more equitable world in our hearts. We can overcome!

Dr. King said "A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and say: 'This is not just.' "

Vigils are being organized around the world -- from California to Cairo, New York to New Orleans, Germany to Nova Scotia. Pete Seeger, K'naan, Ramy Essam, Sol Guy, Joan Baez, Steve Earle and many more have committed their support.

We gather to empower a great and global dream, a dream we have all dreamt of for thousands of years. We will sing, because freedom songs are the soul of the movement.. Together, we will make the dream a reality.

Help turn this moment into a world-wide wave of light:

Like our Facebook page and share with your friends.
Follow @J15global on Twitter.
Call a friend and make a plan to light a candle together.
Organize a vigil on your block or in your town.
Return to Facebook to post your ideas and see what others are planning.
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#1318194 --- 01/16/12 03:40 PM Re: ML King Day [Re: Ayuveda]
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'They took my place!' Single dad trying to take back home occupied by OWS

By CANDICE M. GIOVE

Last Updated: 1:33 PM, January 15, 2012

Posted: 1:03 AM, January 15, 2012
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EXCLUSIVE

They’re occupying his home.

Occupy Wall Street protesters announced with great fanfare last month that they moved a homeless family into a “foreclosed” Brooklyn home — even though they knew the house belonged to a struggling single father desperately trying to renegotiate his mortgage, The Post has learned.

“They’re trying to take a house and say the bank is robbing the people because the mortgage is too high — so contact the owner!” fumed Wise Ahadzi, 28, who owns the home at 702 Vermont St. in East New York.

Occupiers “reclaimed” the row house on Dec. 6 and ceremoniously put out the welcome mat for a homeless family.
THE OWNER: Wise Ahadzi, with daughters Imani, 3, and Kwazha, 10, is fighting to reclaim his home from OWS.
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THE OWNER: Wise Ahadzi, with daughters Imani, 3, and Kwazha, 10, is fighting to reclaim his home from OWS.
THE OCCUPIER: With the help of OWS, Alfredo Carrasquillo (top, center) “moved in” with kids Alfredo Jr. and Tanisha. but he was nowhere to be seen when The Post visited last week.
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THE OCCUPIER: With the help of OWS, Alfredo Carrasquillo (top, center) “moved in” with kids Alfredo Jr. and Tanisha. but he was nowhere to be seen when The Post visited last week.

But Bank of America, which has been in and out of foreclosure proceedings against Ahadzi since 2009, confirmed to The Post that he is still the rightful owner.

Meanwhile, the family that OWS claimed to be putting into the vacant house has not yet permanently moved in. And it turns out the family is not a random victim of the foreclosure crisis, but cast for the part, thanks to their connection to the OWS movement.

OWS last week said it has spent $9,500 breaking into the house and setting it up for the homeless Carrasquillo family. A photo of the smiling family covers a window, under the slogan, “A place to call home.”

The head of the family, Alfredo Carrasquillo, 28, is an organizer for VOCAL- NY, a group that works with OWS. His Facebook page shows him in a “99 Percent” T-shirt at an OWS protest in November.

The Post visited the Vermont Street home last week — six weeks after OWS announced that the Carrasquillos were moving in — and the family was nowhere to be found.

In fact, the only people occupying the house were occupiers themselves.

“They only stay here sometimes,” a protester named Charlie said of the Carrasquillos. “There’s not enough room for the kids.”

The occupier refused to say how many others were inside, but at least two more protesters could be seen at the house, along with mattresses on the floor, during The Post visit.

“We’re almost done with the basement,” he said of the renovations.

The real property owner is livid because he could be raising his two little girls, Imani, 3, and Kwazha, 10, in the two-story home instead of in a meager, two-bedroom rental in Brownsville while he tries to sort out his mortgage nightmare.

Police notified him in early December that the vigilante vagrants moved into his East New York digs, he said. He immediately ran over to the house to see for himself.

“Oh, don’t call the police!” an occupier begged him.

OWS leaders and Brooklyn Councilman Charles Barron, an OWS supporter, met with Ahadzi before the press conference to discuss the future of his property, he said. Ahadzi hoped that the group would help him regain his footing.

“Why can’t you fight for me?” he asked them.

“They told me I don’t qualify,” he said. “So my lawyer asked what the qualifications are. [They said] I have to be with an organization and they’ll deal with the bank and you have to be homeless.

“They said they couldn’t help me,” he added.

Ahadzi explained that he purchased the house for $424,500 in 2007 before the housing bubble burst and the market price plummeted to $150,000. He claimed he lost his job as a day trader in 2009 and couldn’t meet his mortgage payments.

He packed up and left after foreclosure proceedings began in 2009, he said.

“I paid the mortgage on the house for two years,” he added.

Ahadzi even attended the Dec. 6 press conference at the house when the Carrasquillos were introduced. He wanted to tell reporters his story.

“[OWS] told me not to talk to them [reporters] because they [OWS] had an offer for me,” he said.

At a second meeting after the press conference, however, organizers said they would not pay him for the house. At that point, he told them to leave.

Inside the house the walls are knocked down and all of his belongings, including a stove, refrigerator and bedroom furniture, have been moved to the basement.

“I’m pissed off,” he said.

“I’m trying to get my house back, and they’re trying to take it from me.”

cgiove@nypost.com

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/ows_home_invasion_z9ApqDP6Q0boFviq8CjvAL#ixzz1jdURDr3x
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#1318211 --- 01/16/12 04:36 PM Re: ML King Day [Re: Hemphead]
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That's just strange.
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#1318396 --- 01/16/12 09:00 PM Re: ML King Day [Re: Hemphead]
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Just goes to show the OWS has nothing to do with what is right. They only care about what they can get.

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#1318466 --- 01/17/12 12:50 AM Re: ML King Day [Re: cwjga]
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Just goes to show the OWS has nothing to do with what is right. They only care about what they can get.


Back off the Riesling trierarch. It's your privileged ruling-class that mastered the art of exploitation and greed.
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#1318543 --- 01/17/12 02:38 PM Re: The Day After [Re: Ayuveda]
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Mayor gives Occupy Syracuse 24 hours to shut down



1/17/12 9:24 AM

Syracuse (WSYR-TV) – Mayor Stephanie Miner has ordered Occupy Syracuse to vacate its location in the city’s downtown area.

According to the city, fire personnel have raised safety concerns about the protest site.

The Syracuse Fire Department says it has found a 20 gallon propane tank at the site, along with two 16.4 ounce propane tanks and propane heaters.

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#1318560 --- 01/17/12 03:38 PM Re: The Day After [Re: DeadDave]
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AMERICA OCCUPIES THE CAPITAL


occupycongress

January 17 at 9 am
Capitol Hill

Washington, DC—On January 17 Americans from across the nation and the world will assemble in the shadows of a broken system to participate in real democracy.

At 9 am on the opening day of Congress, Occupy Congress will convene for a day of action against a corrupt political institution. Actions include a multi-occupational General Assembly, teach-ins, an OCCUParty, a pink slip for every congressional “representative” and a march on all three branches of a puppet government that sold our rights and our futures to the 1%.

This is an illegitimate system. Around half of the nation’s population doesn’t participate in electoral politics. More than 6 million Americans who want to vote are disenfranchised, including the entire populace of the District of Columbia. There is consensus that we are on the wrong track and that our “leaders” do not have our interests at heart.

All “elected” officials bought their way into gerrymandered seats with Wall Street money. These bankers’ henchmen have shown themselves both unwilling and unable to take on the tremendous, systemic issues in our country, our place in this world.

In the face of this endemic corruption, the Occupy movement is about organizing locally to discuss and change these problems from the ground up. We came to show the 1%’s Congress what democracy looks like.

Our nation, and our world, is in crisis and our “elected” officials have failed us. They refused to hold their bankrollers—Wall Street—responsible for the financial crimes that bankrupted our nation and destroyed the global economy. This last legislative cycle was the least productive in recorded U.S. history; 90% of the country disapproves of these “elected” officials.

We refuse to accept the grim future that Wall Street’s cronies have designed. We refuse to be the 1%’s captive citizenry. We stand together to show that the 99% are creating a better world.

The 99% will no longer be complacent. Our many voices will be amplified on the steps of Capitol Hill. We shall have a nation by, for, and powered by the people once again. We are building it.

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#OccupyCongress is a part of the Occupy movement, which began with Occupy Wall Street on Sept. 17, 2011, in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District. #Occupy is a people powered movement that has spread to sustained occupations in hundreds of cities in the United States and actions in thousands of cities globally. #Occupy is fighting back against the corrosive power major banks and multinational corporations have over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest depression in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt, Tunisia, Spain, Greece, Italy and the UK, and aims to expose how the richest 1% are writing the rules of the global economy and the laws of the land, imposing an agenda of neoliberalism and economic inequality that is foreclosing on our future.
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#1318709 --- 01/18/12 12:41 AM Re: The Day After [Re: Ayuveda]
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Handful of protesters arrested during ‘Occupy Congress’; march moves from Capitol Hill to Supreme Court to White House



 Protesters affiliated with Occupy Wall Street waved signs and chanted against a barrier of police on the U.S. Capitol grounds Tuesday.

By Annie Gowen and Katie Rogers, Updated: Tuesday, January 17, 6:06 PM

Four people were arrested as hundreds of protesters from the Occupy movement gathered Tuesday on the west lawn of the Capitol, chanting, singing, marching and disrupting congressional offices throughout the day.

The demonstrators came from across the country for Occupy Congress, billed as the first nationwide gathering for the movement that began in September as a protest against corporate greed on Wall Street.

Occupiers from around the United States joined forces for “Occupy Congress,” part of a day of action in the movement. The group marched to the Hill, where four protesters were arrested.

Occupiers from around the United States joined forces for “Occupy Congress,” part of a day of action in the movement. The group marched to the Hill, where four protesters were arrested.

Two groups of demonstrators have entrenched themselves in Freedom Plaza and McPherson Square downtown. Patience with the protests seems to be wearing thin for some local officials.

Mid-afternoon, dozens of the protesters swarmed into the Rayburn and other House office buildings, waving banners and chanting, “We are the 99 percent!” At 6:30 p.m., the group marched from the Capitol to the Supreme Court to the White House.

Organizers had said they expected many arrests at the White House, but by late last night, none were reported.

At one point, protesters surged against the White House fence. Someone climbed to the top of the barrier. Smoke was seen at the fence on Pennsylvania Avenue, and media reports said it might have been a smoke bomb. Tension rose as police donned riot helmets. Protesters were told to leave, and it appeared that most or all did.

Organizers had hoped that thousands would come for Tuesday’s event, but it was more like 500 — riding buses and hitching rides from cities including Orlando, Nashville, Los Angeles and New Haven, Conn. That swelled to about 1,000 when night fell.

They arrived just as members of Congress began returning from winter break, finding their disapproval rating at an all-time high. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that a record high of 84 percent of Americans disapprove of the job Congress is doing.

Participant and organizer Mario Lozada, a lawyer from Philadelphia, said Occupy Congress was born out of this frustration and began as a grass-roots movement last year, with one protester creating a Facebook page that has drawn more than 11,000 “likes.”

“Congress is not paying attention to ordinary citizens because of corporate money in politics. This is the general message: Our voices aren’t being heard,” said Lozada, 25.

A cold early rain yielded to afternoon sun as Occupiers gathered on the west lawn, withstanding mud, eating free bagels and oatmeal, and clutching signs that said “Congress for Sale” and “I’m Mad as Hell and I’m Not Going to Take It Anymore.” During occasional clashes with U.S. Capitol Police, four people were arrested: One was charged with assaulting a police officer, the others with crossing a police line.

“I’m tired of the fat cats getting all the money,” said Barry Sipple, 62, a disabled Vietnam veteran, explaining why he drove from the Occupy encampment in Lexington, Ky., for the day’s events. “It seems like the right thing to do.”

During the day, Occupiers had a general assembly meeting, then broke up into groups to network and make plans for the spring.

“It’s the next step. A lot of Occupations are losing their space, so we need to keep the momentum going from the relationships built in those encampments,” said Robby Diesu, 23, part of the Occupy camp at McPherson Square.

The future of the encampments at McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza is by no means secure. The office of Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said Tuesday that the House Oversight panel on the District will hold a hearing about the McPherson Square camp Tuesday, with the police chief, city health director and officials from the National Park Service testifying.

Deb Van Poolen, 42, an organic farmer who is living in the Occupy camp at Freedom Plaza, glowed as she described the guerrilla theater she and others pulled off in the office of Sen. Carl M. Levin (D), from her home state of Michigan. The costumed Occupiers staged a play with mock terrorists and a mock “Levin” behind bars before real police arrived and warned that they would be arrested.

“The theme of today is letting Congress know we are here and we’ll have a presence and they need to listen to us,” she said.
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#1318773 --- 01/18/12 01:13 PM Re: The Day After [Re: Ayuveda]
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Government Rents Port-A-Potties For Occupy Congress Protests, Taxpayers Stuck With The Bill…

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#1318774 --- 01/18/12 01:23 PM Re: The Day After [Re: Ross Falk]
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#1318873 --- 01/18/12 10:41 PM Re: The Day After [Re: Ayuveda]
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VA AG Fears DC Law May Relocate Rat 'Families' to Virginia
By Christopher Goins
January 13, 2012

(CNSNews.com) - Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says he is worried that a new District of Columbia law that governs how pest control operators must handle rats may result in entire rodent "families" being relocated across the Potomac River into Virginia by D.C. pest control personnel.

Lately, there have been reports of growing rat infestations around the Occupy DC protests at Freedom Plaza and McPherson Square.

Cuccinelli said D.C.'s new rat law--the Wildlife Protection Act of 2010 (Wildlife Protection Act of 2010.pdf) --is "crazier than fiction" because it requires that rats and other vermin not be killed but captured, preferably in families; no glue or snap traps can be utilized; the rodents must be relocated from where they are captured; and some of these animals may need to be transferred to a "wildlife rehabilitator" as part of their relocation process.

The law does not allow pest control professionals "to kill the dang rats," Cuccinelli told CNSNews.com. "They have to capture them--then capture them in families. [Not sure] how you're going to figure that out with rats. And then you have to relocate them. That brings us to Virginia. Now, if you don't relocate them about 25 miles away, according to experts, rodents will find their way back. Well, an easy way to solve that problem is to cross a river, and what’s on the other side of the river? Virginia."

"So we have real concerns about this ridiculous--ridiculous!--law and we've been pretty genial about dealing with D.C. on it," said Cuccinelli. "But when you see an article like the 'Rats Occupy Occupy DC,' it points up the problem that we’re going to have in Virginia because of that--and because D.C's really outrageous--outrageous!--treatment of these varmints who, for those who don’t remember their history, carried things like bubonic plague. I mean, these are true vermin."

The law (Wildlife Protection Act of 2010.pdf) specifically says that wildlife “shall include any free-roaming wild animal, but shall not include: (A) Domestic animals; (B) Commensal rodents; (C) Invertebrates; and (D) Fish." Commensal rats include the House mouse (Mus musculus), the Norway rat (Rattus norvegicus), and the Roof rat (Rattus rattus).

In an e-mail to CNSNews.com, Brian Gottstein, communications director for Attorney General Cuccinelli, said, "While certain commensal rodents are exempted from the law, the rice rat and the deer mouse are species that wildlife control experts note are within the District that are NOT defined as commensal rodents, so they would appear not to be exempt from the law."

Gene Harrington, governmental affairs director for the National Pest Management Association said, "I suspect once the Occupy DC protesters eventually leave there will be an overly aggressive squirrel population that has gotten too used to being fed by humans. Under the Wildlife Protection Act, the only legal method pest and wildlife management professionals can use to manage these squirrels will be to live-trap them. Since the squirrels will associate humans with food there is really no place to relocate them where they would not eventually become a nuisance."

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#1318886 --- 01/18/12 11:20 PM Re: The Day After [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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CNSnews.com
VA AG Fears DC Law May Relocate Rat 'Families' to Virginia
By Christopher Goins
January 13, 2012

(CNSNews.com) - Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says he is worried that a new District of Columbia law that governs how pest control operators must handle rats may result in entire rodent "families" being relocated across the Potomac River into Virginia by D.C. pest control personnel.

Lately, there have been reports of growing rat infestations around the Occupy DC protests at Freedom Plaza and McPherson Square.

Cuccinelli said D.C.'s new rat law--the Wildlife Protection Act of 2010 (Wildlife Protection Act of 2010.pdf) --is "crazier than fiction" because it requires that rats and other vermin not be killed but captured, preferably in families; no glue or snap traps can be utilized; the rodents must be relocated from where they are captured; and some of these animals may need to be transferred to a "wildlife rehabilitator" as part of their relocation process.

The law does not allow pest control professionals "to kill the dang rats," Cuccinelli told CNSNews.com. "They have to capture them--then capture them in families. [Not sure] how you're going to figure that out with rats. And then you have to relocate them. That brings us to Virginia. Now, if you don't relocate them about 25 miles away, according to experts, rodents will find their way back. Well, an easy way to solve that problem is to cross a river, and what’s on the other side of the river? Virginia."

"So we have real concerns about this ridiculous--ridiculous!--law and we've been pretty genial about dealing with D.C. on it," said Cuccinelli. "But when you see an article like the 'Rats Occupy Occupy DC,' it points up the problem that we’re going to have in Virginia because of that--and because D.C's really outrageous--outrageous!--treatment of these varmints who, for those who don’t remember their history, carried things like bubonic plague. I mean, these are true vermin."

The law (Wildlife Protection Act of 2010.pdf) specifically says that wildlife “shall include any free-roaming wild animal, but shall not include: (A) Domestic animals; (B) Commensal rodents; (C) Invertebrates; and (D) Fish." Commensal rats include the House mouse (Mus musculus), the Norway rat (Rattus norvegicus), and the Roof rat (Rattus rattus).

In an e-mail to CNSNews.com, Brian Gottstein, communications director for Attorney General Cuccinelli, said, "While certain commensal rodents are exempted from the law, the rice rat and the deer mouse are species that wildlife control experts note are within the District that are NOT defined as commensal rodents, so they would appear not to be exempt from the law."

Gene Harrington, governmental affairs director for the National Pest Management Association said, "I suspect once the Occupy DC protesters eventually leave there will be an overly aggressive squirrel population that has gotten too used to being fed by humans. Under the Wildlife Protection Act, the only legal method pest and wildlife management professionals can use to manage these squirrels will be to live-trap them. Since the squirrels will associate humans with food there is really no place to relocate them where they would not eventually become a nuisance."


Ahahahahahahahaha... do you mean that DC pest control started capturing politicians and releasing them in Virginia?

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#1318913 --- 01/19/12 01:05 AM Re: The Day After [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
if you don't relocate them about 25 miles away, according to experts, rodents will find their way back. Well, an easy way to solve that problem is to cross a river



Someone forgot to tell the rat experts rats are excellent swimmers.


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#1318920 --- 01/19/12 01:50 AM Re: The Day After [Re: Ross Falk]
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Originally Posted By: Ross Falk
Government Rents Port-A-Potties For Occupy Congress Protests, Taxpayers Stuck With The Bill…




well that stinks!
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