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#1269408 --- 04/19/11 09:58 AM Re: $895 Million Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Are u stupid or just crazy? Page after page of u talking to yourself, u really need to find a life!

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#1269424 --- 04/19/11 11:26 AM Re: $895 Million Owed NY by Tribes [Re: DeadDave]
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Originally Posted By: DeadDave
Are u stupid or just crazy? Page after page of u talking to yourself, u really need to find a life!


BZ is both.
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#1269551 --- 04/19/11 08:01 PM Re: $895 Million Owed NY by Tribes [Re: twocats]
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BZ is both.


LOL. I wouldn't say that, but I do think BZ has the goal of becoming the poster with the most posts. The other day I noticed that he'd answered his own scrabble post. So, to honor his initiative, I answered myself three times.

Today I noticed that he'd used a word that I'd used 3 turns before. So, in keeping with the spirit of things, I just repeated his word.

At this rate, he'll pass SJ in no time. LMAO
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#1269632 --- 04/20/11 07:36 AM Re: $895 Million Owed NY by Tribes [Re: DeadDave]
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Originally Posted By: DeadDave
Are u stupid
correct

or just crazy?
correct


Page after page of u talking to yourself, u really need to find a life! thanks for reading


give your land back

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#1269633 --- 04/20/11 07:39 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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help him out DD


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Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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Is this simple question too hard for you?




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#1269635 --- 04/20/11 07:41 AM Re: $895 Million Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Stupid yes, crazy no!

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#1280100 --- 06/13/11 08:30 AM Re: $895 Million Owed NY by Tribes [Re: DeadDave]
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why not let everyone get trust land?



Tribes to rally in Washington for fix to land-into-trust ruling
Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Tribal leaders will head to Washington, D.C., later this month to rally for a fix to the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Carcieri v. Salazar.

Tribes that weren't "under federal jurisdiction" in 1934 cannot follow the land-into-trust process, the court said in the February 2009 ruling. A fix ensures that all tribes, regardless of the date of federal recognition, can acquire trust land.

The Senate Indian Affairs Committee has already approved S.676 to fix the decision. But the committee plans to hold another hearing on the issue on June 23.
Similar versions of the fix -- H.R.1291 and H.R.1234 -- have yet to receive a hearing in the House.

To push for passage, tribes will hold a rally at the US Capitol on June 22. The National Congress of American Indians and the United South and Eastern Tribes are organizing the summit
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#1280101 --- 06/13/11 08:31 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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State Sen. Martin Golden, a Brooklyn Republican and a member of the committee on investigations and government operations, said during Tuesday's hearing that the time for negotiating is over. He said he favors a "drop dead" date, to start charging the tax whether the tribes agreed to it or not.

Wagging his finger at Indians in the audience, he said the U.S. victory over the British during the Revolutionary War gave the government the right to tax its citizens, and he suggested that the tribes benefited from state health, education and public works programs and should therefore be required to pay the same taxes.




pay to play
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#1280125 --- 06/13/11 10:10 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Hey Blue"Harold Camping"Zone.... I thought "the end is near" and they are foreclosing on Turning Stone??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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#1280212 --- 06/13/11 04:22 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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Counties submit final arguments over Oneida Nation foreclosure


Briefing is complete from the parties in the Oneida Nation foreclosure case.

Madison County and Oneida County foreclosed on the tribe's land due to non-payment of property taxes.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs was on track to placing the tribe's land into trust but litigation has delayed action.



when one fails to pay their taxes the county aquires it

...simple concept


will you make up the $500 million?
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#1280218 --- 06/13/11 04:50 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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The tribe lost this case as soon as they filed it; it was a losing case because a victory for the OIN would allow tribes all over the nation to purchase real estate anywhere in the country, whether within or without the boundaries of a reservation, and not have to pay property taxes; that is an unacceptable result for the American people as well as for the U.S. Supreme Court. The tribe has learned nothing from its dramatic defeat in the Sherrill case.

Attorney for the counties David Schraver is absolutely correct when he states that the tribe waived its sovereign immunity to attempt to shield itself from an unfavorable ruling. The reality is, however, that besides a losing sovereign immunity defense, there are no other winning lines of defense for the tribe. It is going to lose; it’s just a matter of when, not if."

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#1280279 --- 06/14/11 03:01 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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when one fails to pay their taxes the county aquires it

...simple concept



If it is soooooooo simple.... they WHY haven't they done it yet???? They won your "blessed" Sherrill ruling over 6 YEARS ago!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I know I'll be having fun at the "foreclosed" Casino on July 26th when I go to see KISS at the event center there BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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#1280280 --- 06/14/11 03:07 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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will you make up the $500 million?


If you took away the $110 per family per month food benefit increase that your *beloved* Paterson gave his *peeps* as soon as he took office ..... THERE alone is your $500 million!

Better yet...force them all to get JOBS and you will save $52 BILLION a year just on Medicaid ALONE... not to mention the income tax the state would receive!

But you like the fools in Albany would rather give to the welfare rats and try to make up for it by taxing the Indians \:\/
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#1280300 --- 06/14/11 07:38 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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Originally Posted By: s2hphoto.com
If it is soooooooo simple.... they WHY haven't they done it yet????


cuz the tribe uses your money to fight every action in court


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After a 3 year battle with the City of Syracuse they have FINALLY demolished the entire vacant house behind me! I won a small victory last May when the took down the enclosed porch, but today in just a short 1 hour 15 minutes they finished the job!


without the media the house would still sit


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#1280301 --- 06/14/11 07:40 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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Originally Posted By: s2hphoto.com

I know I'll be having fun at the "foreclosed" Casino on July 26th when I go to see KISS at the event center there BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Family: Upstate NY soldier killed in Afghanistan

Associated Press - June 6, 2011 12:35 PM ET

COHOCTON, N.Y. (AP) - Relatives of an upstate New York soldier say she was 1 of 4 U.S. Army members killed when a roadside bomb hit their vehicle in Afghanistan.

Spec. Devin Snyder's family in Cohocton tells the Evening Telegram of Hornell that the 20-year-old was killed Saturday.

The Army has said four soldiers were killed that day in an explosion in the east of the country, but the Department of Defense hasn't released their names or details of how they died.

Snyder joined the Army after graduating from Wayland-Cohocton Central School, in rural northern Steuben County.

Her survivors include her parents and three siblings, including two who serve in the military
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#1280302 --- 06/14/11 07:42 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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If you took away the...



do you see them claiming a 'sovereign nation'?
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#1280349 --- 06/14/11 10:05 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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without the media the house would still sit


This has absolutely nothing to do with the natives... but OK....

They must of thought my plight was newsworthy to have it the top story of the 6:00 p.m. news.

However UCE's picket must not of been newsworthy considering R News never covered it like they said they were BWAHAHAHAHAHA
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#1280363 --- 06/14/11 11:39 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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I know I'll be having fun at the "foreclosed" Casino on July 26th when I go to see KISS at the event center there BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Family: Upstate NY soldier killed in Afghanistan

Associated Press - June 6, 2011 12:35 PM ET

COHOCTON, N.Y. (AP) - Relatives of an upstate New York soldier say she was 1 of 4 U.S. Army members killed when a roadside bomb hit their vehicle in Afghanistan.

Spec. Devin Snyder's family in Cohocton tells the Evening Telegram of Hornell that the 20-year-old was killed Saturday.

The Army has said four soldiers were killed that day in an explosion in the east of the country, but the Department of Defense hasn't released their names or details of how they died.

Snyder joined the Army after graduating from Wayland-Cohocton Central School, in rural northern Steuben County.

Her survivors include her parents and three siblings, including two who serve in the military


YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! If we weren't spending BILLIONS fighting these sensless wars, and putting our men and women in harms way, the U.S. and NYS wouldn't be in the financial pickle we are in and we wouldn't need the Indians tax $$ to pay the bills!!!!
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#1280668 --- 06/16/11 07:45 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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Originally Posted By: s2hphoto.com
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without the media the house would still sit


This has absolutely nothing to do with the natives... but OK....



you wanted the laws enforced
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#1280669 --- 06/16/11 07:47 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: s2hphoto.com]
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Originally Posted By: s2hphoto.com
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! If we weren't spending BILLIONS fighting these sensless wars, and putting our men and women in harms way, ...


and who pays for it?
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