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#1308648 --- 11/21/11 10:34 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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help him out DD


Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Duude
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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#1308650 --- 11/21/11 10:37 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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with the recent cayuga member running into halftowns building and the local authourities coming to the rescue, the "reservation" system serves no purpose
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#1308655 --- 11/21/11 10:50 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
with the recent cayuga member running into halftowns building and the local authourities coming to the rescue, the "reservation" system serves no purpose



How cares the worlds going to end next year!
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#1308656 --- 11/21/11 10:55 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Ross Falk]
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bring our soldiers home
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#1309976 --- 12/01/11 02:35 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Court sides with Sherrill
Supreme Court justices rule 8-1
Oneida Nation must pay tax to city
Wed, Mar 30, 2005
R. PATRICK CORBETT Observer-Dispatch

The Oneida Indian Nation must pay taxes on its property in the city of Sherrill and potentially on all land it has bought outside of its 32-acre reservation in Madison County, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday . In an 8-1 decision, the court ruled that the New York Oneidas cannot disrupt two centuries of local development by refusing to pay local taxes on a gas station and T-shirt factory it owns in Sherrill in Oneida County. New York City lawyer Ira Sacks, who pleaded Sherrill's case pro bono, said, "We were very pleased. The Supreme Court agreed with the principal argument that after 200 years ... the Oneida Indian Nation can't pick and choose places to buy and take it out of local jurisdiction." The justices also remarked on the "distinctly non-Indian character of the area and its inhabitants," because most Oneida Indians moved out of the area about 150 years ago.




halbritter is just a US citizen like us all
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#1312148 --- 12/17/11 11:05 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
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help him out DD


Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Duude
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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Is this simple question too hard for you?




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tell use when you find it


it is the tribe in violation of it
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#1312513 --- 12/19/11 01:45 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Tim Giago: Freedom of the press not really alive in Indian Country

Ray Halbritter, Publisher and CEO of Indian Country Today weekly newspaper announced last week that the newspaper will become a weekly magazine to be called This Week from Indian Country Today. Let me give you a brief history of Indian Country Today as I know it.

The Oneida Nation has owned Indian Country Today going on 13 years. I founded ICT and owned it for 18 years prior to selling the paper to them. ICT was born on the Pine Ridge Reservation in 1981 as The Lakota Times. As the newspaper grew into a national paper a contest was held within the paper looking for a new name to be more expressive of its now national stature. Lakota Times managing editor Avis Little Eagle won the contest by naming the paper Indian Country Today.

ICT was born and raised in Lakota country. Its founder was Lakota, not Oneida, but on its website you will see that Halbritter has completely erased the history of the great and wonderful years when ICT thrived among the Lakota people.

We started the newspaper because we wanted a vehicle that would report on the everyday activities of the people of the Pine Ridge Reservation. We wanted a paper that was not afraid to report the truth. And above all, we wanted a paper that did not censor any writer, whether in a letter or in a column, that we did not agree with. And in the 18 years I owned the Lakota Times/Indian Country Today, we followed that golden rule.

In the 13 years Ray Halbritter has owned Indian Country Today, the newspaper has never published a letter, a column or a news report that was critical of him, the Nation, or the newspaper. And that my friend, is known in the newspaper business as censorship.

As the former editor I began to receive letters shortly after I sold it, letters and emails that continue to come to me even today from Native Americans who were angry that letters and columns they wrote to ICT critical of Halbritter and of the newspaper, were never published.

I am recognized as a fair Indian country columnist, but not a single column of mine has ever appeared in Indian Country Today since December of 1998, the month I sold it to ICT. As the former editor of ICT and now the editor of Native Sun News, I had a philosophy: I didn’t give a hoot whether I liked or despised a Native columnist or letter writer; if their writing was pertinent to the issues of today, I published it. If I got a letter calling me an S.O.B. and my newspaper a good bottom liner for the birdcage, I published it.

Native American readers are not stupid and they recognize censorship when they don’t see it. According to a former ICT employee, Halbritter and staff trashed 18 years of the Lakota Times and the early Indian Country Today rather than keep them as archival referrals. The first 18 years of a truly great Indian newspaper went to the dumpster.
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#1312517 --- 12/19/11 01:59 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Oh no! Native businessmen and media moguls are doing the same thing as White businessmen and media moguls!

Didn't Rupert Murdoch establish the norm?

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#1312520 --- 12/19/11 02:08 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
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On my dad's side of the family, Mikmaq, an Algonquin tribe
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#1312522 --- 12/19/11 02:18 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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What does that have to do with anything? My mom is German/Irish. Does that mean I can't comment on anything European?

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#1312523 --- 12/19/11 02:21 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
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Oh no! Native businessmen and media moguls are doing the same thing as White businessmen and media moguls!

Didn't Rupert Murdoch establish the norm?
Please don't encourage bluezone.

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#1312660 --- 12/20/11 07:37 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: MeRightYouWrong]
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Didn't Rupert Murdoch establish the norm?


and rupert is a pseudo 'leader' for what psuedo 'nation'?
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#1312668 --- 12/20/11 07:53 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: MeRightYouWrong

Didn't Rupert Murdoch establish the norm?


and rupert is a pseudo 'leader' for what psuedo 'nation'?


Senecas, Oneidas, Cayugas, and Onondagas have one hell of a "pseudo nation" considering they can still sell gas, cigs, and gambling tax free to ANYONE \:\/
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#1312677 --- 12/20/11 08:10 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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ain't no federal reservation in NYS
write obama a letter
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#1313062 --- 12/21/11 11:56 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27

Senecas, Oneidas, Cayugas, and Onondagas have one hell of a "pseudo nation" considering they can still sell gas, cigs, and gambling tax free to ANYONE \:\/


and some of OUR troops are returning home safely
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#1313064 --- 12/21/11 11:58 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Senecas, Oneidas, Cayugas, and Onondagas have one hell of a "pseudo nation" considering they can still sell gas, cigs, and gambling tax free to ANYONE \:\/


hope they set some money aside to defend themselves from N korea or Iran
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#1313373 --- 12/23/11 01:18 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27

Senecas, Oneidas, Cayugas, and Onondagas have one hell of a "pseudo nation" considering they can still sell gas, cigs, and gambling tax free to ANYONE \:\/


and some of OUR troops are returning home safely


Estimates from the Veterans Administration and the Census Bureau suggest that in the 1990s there were 160,000 living Indian veterans. This represented nearly 10 percent of all living Indians—a proportion triple that of the Non-Native population—and confirms once again that Native Americans play an important role in the U.S. military.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O126-NativeAmericansintheMltry.html
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#1313465 --- 12/23/11 10:57 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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there are no jobs on the reservation
they fought as US citizens
(thanks for proving my point)

where are the tribes military?
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#1313471 --- 12/23/11 11:36 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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there are no jobs on the reservation
they fought as US citizens
(thanks for proving my point)

where are the tribes military?


Are you that clueless. So you mean to tell me Turning Stone, Alleghany, and Seneca Niagara casinos operate without employees. So here in Syracuse the Onongaga Nation School, The Smoke Shop, The cig plant, Onondaga Nation Medical Center and the multi-million dollar Lacrosse/Hockey complex operate without employees? So the 100's of smoke shops/gas stations in Erie and Niagara County operate with out employees?? How does skydancer and Lakeside operate with noone to unload trucks, no one to stock, and no one to ring out customers????

If what you say is true (which it never is) How can Turning Stone big one of the biggest EMPLOYERS in Oneida County if there are no jobs??
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#1313505 --- 12/23/11 01:54 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27

If what you say is true (which it never is) How can Turning Stone big one of the biggest EMPLOYERS in Oneida County if there are no jobs??


turnings stone is not on a reservation

how many are tribal members?

you are aware that many reservations have unemployment rates as high as 80%

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