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#1240783 --- 12/18/10 09:50 PM “American Redneck Society.”
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American Redneck Society formed to advocate for rural Americans


You might be a redneck if…you create a dues-paying society and a scholarship fund?

And that's what a Virginia man did last week, launching the “American Redneck Society.”

“I really felt that American Rednecks are an under-served, but large population that could benefit from a formal membership organization structure,” said American Redneck Society Executive Director Rob Clayton.

A $20 membership fee will get you access to retail discounts across the country, and a portion of the funds are set aside for an educational fund for “rural youth.”

"What does it mean to be a Redneck?" the group’s website asks.

Well, with apologies to comedian Jeff Foxworthy, apparently, you might be a redneck if…

You’re a fan of Nascar.

You’re a gun owner.

You like country music.

You can fix just about anything with duct tape.

You think “duct” tape should actually be “duck” tape.

Yee-haw! \:\)
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#1240795 --- 12/19/10 12:40 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Harleybobb]
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Originally Posted By: Harleybobb

Well, with apologies to comedian Jeff Foxworthy, apparently, you might be a redneck if…

You’re a fan of Nascar.

You’re a gun owner.

You like country music.

You can fix just about anything with duct tape.

You think “duct” tape should actually be “duck” tape.

Yee-haw! \:\)



I thought those things made you a Republican
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#1241110 --- 12/20/10 10:37 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: sands]
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Only if your duck tape is used to hold together your 100' yacht...
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#1241122 --- 12/20/10 11:03 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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It's funny that an anti-union group would name themselves after the West Virginia coal miners who fought to the death for union rights.
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#1241127 --- 12/20/10 11:23 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
Only if your duck tape is used to hold together your 100' yacht...


and if you dock it in another state to avoid paying taxes, that makes you a Democrat.
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#1241130 --- 12/20/10 11:28 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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"The term Redneck came from the red bandannas that the union members wore to identify themselves during the Battle of Blair Mountain. During the five day battle about 3000 well armed coal mine hired guns fought 10,000 to 15,000 poorly armed union coal miners. It was the largest battle on American soil post Civil War. This took place in the 1920s and made national and international news because the US Military had to be brought in to stop the fighting. Once upon a time being a redneck actually was a title of pride."

Gadzooks! I had to Google it! Well, there are only two kinds of people: those who like to Google, and those aren't interested in learning anything new...
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#1241131 --- 12/20/10 11:35 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: sands]
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Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: VM Smith
Only if your duck tape is used to hold together your 100' yacht...


and if you dock it in another state to avoid paying taxes, that makes you a Democrat.


There's a case in point. If you liked Googling as much as Festus and I do, you'd know that Kerry's yacht is a 76 footer. Or, as the repubs like to say, "a nice little boat".

http://www.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view.bg?articleid=1269698
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#1241132 --- 12/20/10 11:41 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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Before then it was used to describe poor white farmers. They got the name because of their sunburned necks from bending over in the fields working crops.
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#1241135 --- 12/21/10 12:03 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: sands]
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I knew that, but hadn't heard of the labor strife connection. I was just yanking your chain about Googling, BTW; you usually have your facts straight, and since no one is born knowing anything, I figure you make liberal use of Google.

I just used "liberal" in a sentence about Sands...do I win a yacht? How about a "get out of jail free" card?
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#1241136 --- 12/21/10 12:12 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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The word redneck is first cited in Scotland, where it referred to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, otherwise known as Covenanters - largely lowland Presbyterians.

The Covenanters in the mid 1600's signed documents that stated Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church. To signify their desire, many Covenanters signed the documents in their own blood, would spill their blood to keep this from happening and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia - hence the term Redneck.

These Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) during the 17th Century and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America across the 18th Century. One etymological theory holds that since many Scotch-Irish who settled in what would become the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

http://bsornot.whipnet.net/redneck/redneck.culture.html
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#1241138 --- 12/21/10 12:54 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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Originally Posted By: Festus
The word redneck is first cited in Scotland, where it referred to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, otherwise known as Covenanters - largely lowland Presbyterians.

The Covenanters in the mid 1600's signed documents that stated Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church. To signify their desire, many Covenanters signed the documents in their own blood, would spill their blood to keep this from happening and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia - hence the term Redneck.

These Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) during the 17th Century and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America across the 18th Century. One etymological theory holds that since many Scotch-Irish who settled in what would become the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

http://bsornot.whipnet.net/redneck/redneck.culture.html


rolling eyes! man you are one big knucklehead. last I looked we don't live in the scottish highlands...goofball.
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#1241152 --- 12/21/10 02:22 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Harleybobb]
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Originally Posted By: Harleybobb
Originally Posted By: Festus


These Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) during the 17th Century and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America across the 18th Century. One etymological theory holds that since many Scotch-Irish who settled in what would become the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

http://bsornot.whipnet.net/redneck/redneck.culture.html


rolling eyes! man you are one big knucklehead. last I looked we don't live in the scottish highlands...goofball.



Maybe you'd understand if your reading comprehension was better than a second grade level.
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#1241153 --- 12/21/10 02:24 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Harleybobb]
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Originally Posted By: Harleybobb

rolling eyes! man you are one big knucklehead. last I looked we don't live in the scottish highlands...goofball.

There you go with that name calling, Harley. ;\)

Festus is merely pointing out where one possibility of the term "red neck" came from. Or, do you assume that our American culture appeared out of thin air?
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#1241167 --- 12/21/10 03:18 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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My ggg grandfather, Samuel Oliver, came from County Selkirk, bringing my Presbyterianism, and, I now learn, my red neck, LOL.
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#1241177 --- 12/21/10 04:04 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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more butter will help that red neck.

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#1241182 --- 12/21/10 05:03 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Code Red]
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I've got a Kitty that likes butter, too...
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#1241209 --- 12/21/10 01:22 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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Originally Posted By: Festus
Originally Posted By: Harleybobb
Originally Posted By: Festus


These Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) during the 17th Century and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America across the 18th Century. One etymological theory holds that since many Scotch-Irish who settled in what would become the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

http://bsornot.whipnet.net/redneck/redneck.culture.html


rolling eyes! man you are one big knucklehead. last I looked we don't live in the scottish highlands...goofball.



Maybe you'd understand if your reading comprehension was better than a second grade level.
and speaking of reading comprehension this thread is about the american redneck society NOT the scottish highlands redneck society! if you want to chat about scottish redneck history start a thread.
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#1241233 --- 12/21/10 04:21 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Harleybobb]
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Originally Posted By: Harleybobb
Originally Posted By: Festus
Originally Posted By: Harleybobb
Originally Posted By: Festus


These Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) during the 17th Century and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America across the 18th Century. One etymological theory holds that since many Scotch-Irish who settled in what would become the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.

http://bsornot.whipnet.net/redneck/redneck.culture.html


rolling eyes! man you are one big knucklehead. last I looked we don't live in the scottish highlands...goofball.



Maybe you'd understand if your reading comprehension was better than a second grade level.
and speaking of reading comprehension this thread is about the american redneck society NOT the scottish highlands redneck society! if you want to chat about scottish redneck history start a thread.


I stand corrected.

Your reading comprehension is far below that of a second-grader.
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#1241235 --- 12/21/10 04:33 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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The following is for VM Smith's reading pleasure.

Scottish Hillbillies and Rednecks




By Todd J. Wilkinson, FSA Scot.

Many words commonly used in America today such as Hillbillies and Rednecks have their origins in our Scottish roots. While the following three terms are associated today with the American South and southern culture, their origins are distinctly Scottish and Ulster-Scottish (Scots-Irish), and date to the mass immigration of Scottish Lowland and Ulster Presbyterians to America during the 1700’s.

HILLBILLY (Hillbillies)

The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled “Scots-Irish”) settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690.


Supporters of King William were known as “Orangemen” and "Billy Boys" and their North American counterparts were soon referred to as "hillbillies". It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, "Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!" and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, "Marching Through Georgia".

Stories abound of American National Guard units from Southern states being met upon disembarking in Britain during the First and Second World Wars with the tune, much to their displeasure! One of these stories comes from Colonel Ward Schrantz, a noted historian, Carthage Missouri native, and veteran of the Mexican Border Campaign, as well as the First and Second World Wars, documented a story where the US Army's 30th Division, made up of National Guard units from Georgia, North and South Carolina and Tennessee arrived in the United Kingdom…”a waiting British band broke into welcoming American music, and the soldiery, even the 118th Field Artillery and the 105 Medical Battalion from Georgia, broke into laughter.

The excellence of intent and the ignorance of the origins of the American music being equally obvious. The welcoming tune was “Marching Through Georgia.”

REDNECKS

The origins of this term Redneck are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or "Covenanters", largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church.

Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term "Red neck", (rednecks) which became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red clerical collar -- is this symbolic of the "rednecks"?

Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the South) were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when an author noted that "red-neck" was a "name bestowed upon the Presbyterians." It makes you wonder if the originators of the ever-present "redneck" joke are aware of the term’s origins - Rednecks?

*Another term for Presbyterians in Ireland was a "Blackmouth". Members of the Church of Ireland (Anglicans) used this as a slur, referring to the fact that one could tell a Presbyterian by the black stains around his mouth from eating blackberries while at secret, illegal Presbyterian Church Services in the countryside.

CRACKER

Another Ulster-Scot term, a "cracker" was a person who talked and boasted, and "craic" (Crack) is a term still used in Scotland and Ireland to describe "talking", chat or conversation in a social sense ("Let’s go down to the pub and have a craic"; "what's the craic"). The term, first used to describe a southerner of Ulster-Scottish background, later became a nickname for any white southerner, especially those who were uneducated.

And while not an exclusively Southern term, but rather referring in general to all Americans, the origins of this word are related to the other three.


http://www.scotshistoryonline.co.uk/rednecks/rednecks.html
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#1241245 --- 12/21/10 05:22 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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Ahahahahahaha... another googled response.
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#1241247 --- 12/21/10 06:00 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: Festus]
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Good read; thanks. Here's one by Joe Bageant, one of my favorite essayists. He is a redneck, and often writes about them. He calls them rednecks, mutt-people, cannon fodder for the Empire, Scots-Irish, etc.:

http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2006/01/revenge_of_the_.html
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#1241290 --- 12/21/10 10:41 PM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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Thanks for link VM Smith interesting read
Listening to interview now>>>>
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200711/r197169_751517.mp3

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#1241330 --- 12/22/10 02:57 AM Re: “American Redneck Society.” [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
I just used "liberal" in a sentence about Sands...do I win a yacht? How about a "get out of jail free" card?



I was thinking more like a half used roll of camo duct tape.
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