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#1274830 - 05/15/11 11:13 AM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: Alice and Toto]
beeba24
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Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 961
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Alice and Toto
This Fiscal Year (June 1,2010- May 31 2011) Penn Yan anticipates receiving approximately $2.5 Million in property tax revenue plus approximately $1.5 Million from other sources such as PILOT, fees, fines, grants and etc.

Of the approximately $4 million in revenue the village spend approximately $2.2 million for salaries and employee benefits.
Another way to look at it is 88% of each tax payers village property taxes is used to pay the salaries and benefits for our village employees.

The average Penn Yan resident that does not work for the county, village, or the school has not gotten a raise in the last couple of years and even the federal government workers have now had their pay frozen for the next two years.

I think it is time for the village board to look at ways to trim the village payroll and stop giving raises to these employees for at least the next two years.
They're negotiating with the Village now for a raise.

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#1322812 - 02/04/12 07:13 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: Alice and Toto]
crackpot
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Registered: 01/20/12
Posts: 120
Loc: new york
Originally Posted By: Alice and Toto
Originally Posted By: C.I.Brown
All questions asked about the village's finances are referred to the village secretary, Shawna Wilber. The board of trustees haven't a clue where we stand financially. Even with a $90,000 financial software program, nobody can make heads or tails of the monthly reports. Other municipalities and nonprofits invested approximately $600 for quickbooks and have more accurate and easily readable financial reports. I's time that the village realize that there are payroll services and financial services that are far cheaper than the salaries and benefits it pays to take care of the financial needs of the village. Then maybe we can get reports filed on time and have timely and accurate information at our disposal instead of waiting 8 months for year end reports.
Having never seen any report generated by the new financial software, I can not attest to whether or not anyone can understand them or not.

That said C.I. is right when it comes to Quickbooks and outsourcing the village and MUB pay roll functions.

I am sure that the the village could find an accounting firm to do this for under $2,000 a month. Doing this would eliminate the need for one deputy clerk that costs the village about $4,000 a month when you add in benefits.
Bottom line, there's money to be saved!!!

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#1322836 - 02/04/12 09:41 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: crackpot]
CurlySue
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Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 99
Loc: New York,USA
Summer county and village jobs are available to whom ever applies. Quite often they are filled by college students who have respectable resumes and are free June-August. These positions are not always advertised in the newspaper. They are found on Yates County Personnel Dept. positions available.
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#1322850 - 02/05/12 01:27 AM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: CurlySue]
McLovin'
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Registered: 05/02/09
Posts: 1247
Loc: In the land of freedom
Get the curls out of your eyes, CurlySue! It sounds like all you have to do is to apply. I like how you worded the phrase, "respectable resumes." I know from past experience that the 'respectable resumes' means who your parents know.

I would think the Village would try to hire village residents, but, from personal past experience some how high school/college students from out of the Village have been know to 'beat out' qualified py kids.

We have a son of a trustee who, when he is home from college just goes up the the Village Barns and works on the welding projects that they save for him. No application, no work needed ad posted anywhere--and PRESTO, the job appears for him when he is in town.
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The PY Village Board is too LIBERAL with OUR money!

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#1323614 - 02/08/12 02:34 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: Alice and Toto]
PY tax Payer
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Registered: 07/24/11
Posts: 84
Loc: Penn Yan, NY USA
They are paid so much they don't want ppl to see what they make per year, plus vacation, sick time, insurance etc... At my job I get around $50,000 and year and I have worked for 30 years and I heard she started out at $55,000 plus benefits. That is not right that she starts out so high. I bet she makes more than city ppl are paid.
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#1323676 - 02/08/12 06:44 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: PY tax Payer]
crackpot
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Registered: 01/20/12
Posts: 120
Loc: new york
Originally Posted By: PY tax Payer
They are paid so much they don't want ppl to see what they make per year, plus vacation, sick time, insurance etc... At my job I get around $50,000 and year and I have worked for 30 years and I heard she started out at $55,000 plus benefits. That is not right that she starts out so high. I bet she makes more than city ppl are paid.
Well, I guess it's up to us to stand up and bring it to the board, not that they will care. If we don't then nothing will change. Stay at home, complain to everyone you know, do nothing, and nothing will change. Comprise a large group, get vocal at meetings and I promise things will change. Takes intestinal fortitude but it works, believe me.

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#1329613 - 03/03/12 06:53 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: Yank3]
j3668py
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Registered: 11/10/10
Posts: 471
Loc: new york
Originally Posted By: Yank3
Originally Posted By: McLovin'
Originally Posted By: tubby

What's up with this site? It doesn't give anywhere near all of PY employees. Where's the MUB ( Electric, Water and Sewer) workers? It has Willie's salary, but no other Trustees' . It has a part time summer worker (Hamm), but no others. We see Brockman's salary, but not Shawna's, Bodine's or Osgood's.

Should all public employees' salary be public? How does this site get the figures? I don't get it.

Yes they should and regarding Osgood & Bodine, it's apparently been pre-decided that Bodine is the heir apparent. No advertising, no interviews and there's also been a new guy hired to take bodine's place that has been on the job for months "learning". This practice is BS. Maybe the Bodine promotion is legal if it's an appointed position but if it's a tested position then again, the village has already determined the successful candidate without seeking applications, tests being taken, etc. as in the marchionda water plant job
I heard the xmayor is going to be the next street supervisor, with a very large salary.

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#1330181 - 03/05/12 09:15 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: j3668py]
Outsidelookingin
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Registered: 09/13/11
Posts: 198
Loc: NY
The Village could save a significant amount of money if it stopped Article 78’s from the local vermin!
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#1330182 - 03/05/12 09:19 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: Outsidelookingin]
outlet
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Registered: 03/04/12
Posts: 125
Loc: penn yan ny
Originally Posted By: Outsidelookingin
The Village could save a significant amount of money if it stopped Article 78’s from the local vermin!
yada, yada, yada. Tell the village idots to do what's right, yada, yada, yada.

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#1330189 - 03/05/12 09:37 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: outlet]
Outsidelookingin
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Registered: 09/13/11
Posts: 198
Loc: NY

I have been telling YOU all along, you just don't listen!
"Outlet" bring back good memories?

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#1330192 - 03/05/12 11:02 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: Outsidelookingin]
outlet
Member


Registered: 03/04/12
Posts: 125
Loc: penn yan ny
Originally Posted By: Outsidelookingin

I have been telling YOU all along, you just don't listen!
"Outlet" bring back good memories?
I've been doing the right thing, holding them accountable for their illegal actions so I guess I've been listening. I guess this means you must be proud of me so thank you.

Love,
Outlet

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#1334064 - 03/21/12 06:11 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed *DELETED* [Re: outlet]
laxman
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Registered: 08/25/08
Posts: 96
Loc: new york
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#1334456 - 03/23/12 08:36 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed *DELETED* [Re: Outsidelookingin]
outlet
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Registered: 03/04/12
Posts: 125
Loc: penn yan ny
Originally Posted By: Outsidelookingin
The Village could save a significant amount of money if it stopped Article 78’s from the local vermin!
Read the "Open's meetings Law", follow it and it will save the village thousands of dollars in legal fee's.

It's not brain surgery, it's written in the law which the village has chosen not to follow for years to their expense!!!

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#1334591 - 03/24/12 01:01 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: beeba24]
outlet
Member


Registered: 03/04/12
Posts: 125
Loc: penn yan ny
Originally Posted By: beeba24
Originally Posted By: Alice and Toto
This Fiscal Year (June 1,2010- May 31 2011) Penn Yan anticipates receiving approximately $2.5 Million in property tax revenue plus approximately $1.5 Million from other sources such as PILOT, fees, fines, grants and etc.

Of the approximately $4 million in revenue the village spend approximately $2.2 million for salaries and employee benefits.
Another way to look at it is 88% of each tax payers village property taxes is used to pay the salaries and benefits for our village employees.

The average Penn Yan resident that does not work for the county, village, or the school has not gotten a raise in the last couple of years and even the federal government workers have now had their pay frozen for the next two years.

I think it is time for the village board to look at ways to trim the village payroll and stop giving raises to these employees for at least the next two years.
They're negotiating with the Village now for a raise.
Guess who wants a bigger raise than anyone else will get this year?


Edited by outlet (03/24/12 01:03 PM)

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#1334949 - 03/26/12 09:17 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: outlet]
j3668py
Member


Registered: 11/10/10
Posts: 471
Loc: new york
Originally Posted By: outlet
Originally Posted By: beeba24
Originally Posted By: Alice and Toto
This Fiscal Year (June 1,2010- May 31 2011) Penn Yan anticipates receiving approximately $2.5 Million in property tax revenue plus approximately $1.5 Million from other sources such as PILOT, fees, fines, grants and etc.

Of the approximately $4 million in revenue the village spend approximately $2.2 million for salaries and employee benefits.
Another way to look at it is 88% of each tax payers village property taxes is used to pay the salaries and benefits for our village employees.

The average Penn Yan resident that does not work for the county, village, or the school has not gotten a raise in the last couple of years and even the federal government workers have now had their pay frozen for the next two years.

I think it is time for the village board to look at ways to trim the village payroll and stop giving raises to these employees for at least the next two years.
They're negotiating with the Village now for a raise.
Guess who wants a bigger raise than anyone else will get this year?
The Village clerk is asking for a $10,000 pay increase, what do you think about this request?


Edited by j3668py (03/26/12 09:18 PM)

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#1334960 - 03/26/12 11:18 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: j3668py]
C.I.Brown
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Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
The village board is threatening to close down Indian Pines Park, but has no problem giving the village secretary a $10,000 salary increase? What does she have on them?
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#1335111 - 03/28/12 10:06 AM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: C.I.Brown]
yatesgirl
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Registered: 08/19/11
Posts: 76
Loc: NYS
Originally Posted By: C.I.Brown
The village board is threatening to close down Indian Pines Park, but has no problem giving the village secretary a $10,000 salary increase? What does she have on them?
I am willing to bet that she will get, but it will probably be broken up into two raises. $5000 this year and $5000 next year.

Why, because she is the mayor's pick for the job of Clerk/Treasurer and he has promised her that she will be paid the same as the previous Clerk/Treasurer.
_________________________

I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.

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#1335126 - 03/28/12 01:03 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: yatesgirl]
C.I.Brown
Member


Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
Originally Posted By: yatesgirl
Originally Posted By: C.I.Brown
The village board is threatening to close down Indian Pines Park, but has no problem giving the village secretary a $10,000 salary increase? What does she have on them?
I am willing to bet that she will get, but it will probably be broken up into two raises. $5000 this year and $5000 next year.

Why, because she is the mayor's pick for the job of Clerk/Treasurer and he has promised her that she will be paid the same as the previous Clerk/Treasurer.



The previous person who had this position also had a CPA's license, could handle all the accounting functions, and did not rely on outside external auditors to do all the work (per last year's audit report). She doesn't deserve the $10,000 increase in salary let alone the $60,000 she is getting now. Apparently the village board has not surveyed its own village and see what the average PY village citizen earns. It certainly is not $70,000+ a year. I suggest cutting a position in village hall to accommodate this increase.


Edited by C.I.Brown (03/28/12 01:04 PM)

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#1335162 - 03/28/12 04:07 PM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: C.I.Brown]
yatesgirl
Member


Registered: 08/19/11
Posts: 76
Loc: NYS
Originally Posted By: C.I.Brown
The previous person who had this position also had a CPA's license, could handle all the accounting functions, and did not rely on outside external auditors to do all the work (per last year's audit report). She doesn't deserve the $10,000 increase in salary let alone the $60,000 she is getting now. Apparently the village board has not surveyed its own village and see what the average PY village citizen earns. It certainly is not $70,000+ a year. I suggest cutting a position in village hall to accommodate this increase.
The previous Clerk/Treasurer probably didn't hid an audit nor lie about it when asked if it existed
_________________________

I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.

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#1335240 - 03/29/12 08:01 AM Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed [Re: yatesgirl]
C.I.Brown
Member


Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
Originally Posted By: yatesgirl
Originally Posted By: C.I.Brown
The village board is threatening to close down Indian Pines Park, but has no problem giving the village secretary a $10,000 salary increase? What does she have on them?
I am willing to bet that she will get, but it will probably be broken up into two raises. $5000 this year and $5000 next year.

Why, because she is the mayor's pick for the job of Clerk/Treasurer and he has promised her that she will be paid the same as the previous Clerk/Treasurer.



So does that mean that she will get a $5,000 increase every year from now until infinity? How can a village of this size sustain that amount of money? She makes more than two incomes in my household. There must be something we can do about her GIMME, GIMME, GIMME attitude and why the village board puts up with it.


Edited by C.I.Brown (03/29/12 08:02 AM)

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