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#1236867 - 11/30/10 01:39 PM
Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
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Alice and Toto
Senior Member
Registered: 03/25/10
Posts: 634
Loc: not in Kansas
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This Fiscal Year (June 1,2010- May 31 2011) Penn Yan anticipates receiving approximately $2.5 Million in property tax revenue plus approximately $1.5 Million from other sources such as PILOT, fees, fines, grants and etc.
Of the approximately $4 million in revenue the village spend approximately $2.2 million for salaries and employee benefits.
Another way to look at it is 88% of each tax payers village property taxes is used to pay the salaries and benefits for our village employees.
The average Penn Yan resident that does not work for the county, village, or the school has not gotten a raise in the last couple of years and even the federal government workers have now had their pay frozen for the next two years.
I think it is time for the village board to look at ways to trim the village payroll and stop giving raises to these employees for at least the next two years.
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#1236868 - 11/30/10 01:52 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: Alice and Toto]
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C.I.Brown
Member
Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
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I have said all along that the Village has way too many employees and way too many benefits. Every time someone sniffles about retiring, someone is put immediately in place even though the retirement is far far off in the distant future. The employees should be contributing more to their health insurance benefit and there should be no stipend if an employee chooses not to take the insurance. I understand that employees who choose not to take the village's policy gets a $1000 reward. The police get even more, although they have a union fighting for them. There are way too many women working at village hall, it's like there are 10 deputy clerks. They all get clothing allowances. They build up compensated absences and health buyouts. The problem we have is that like any municipality we give these jobs to friends, relatives, and kids of our best friends. In simple language, you don't cut any positions because it would hurt someone's feelings. Apparently, the taxpayers don't have feelings that matter. Raises are too fast and furious, even though the average taxpayer doesn't keep up with the pay hikes that our employees receive. The village tax is my most expensive tax.
Edited by C.I.Brown (11/30/10 01:55 PM)
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#1236871 - 11/30/10 02:18 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: C.I.Brown]
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tubby
Senior Member
Registered: 03/12/08
Posts: 1114
Loc: N.Y.
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http://www.seethroughny.net
Edited by tubby (11/30/10 02:19 PM)
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#1236891 - 11/30/10 03:25 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: tubby]
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C.I.Brown
Member
Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
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One of the games that the village can play is to divide up salaries between their general fund supported by village taxpayers and MUB funds, or the municipal budgets of water, sewer, electric. They claim that if they pass on the costs to the rate payers, then the base is much larger and you won't notice the increases. Included in the ratepayer's base are the Towns that purchase water from Penn yan. Thus, all those who buy water, sewer and elecrtic from Penn Yan are paying for those outrageous salaries and benefits. Village residents are both taxpayers and ratepayers.
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#1236980 - 12/01/10 06:36 AM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: McLovin']
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Yank3
Member
Registered: 07/30/10
Posts: 140
Loc: The Stadium
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What's up with this site? It doesn't give anywhere near all of PY employees. Where's the MUB ( Electric, Water and Sewer) workers? It has Willie's salary, but no other Trustees' . It has a part time summer worker (Hamm), but no others. We see Brockman's salary, but not Shawna's, Bodine's or Osgood's. Should all public employees' salary be public? How does this site get the figures? I don't get it.
Yes they should and regarding Osgood & Bodine, it's apparently been pre-decided that Bodine is the heir apparent. No advertising, no interviews and there's also been a new guy hired to take bodine's place that has been on the job for months "learning". This practice is BS. Maybe the Bodine promotion is legal if it's an appointed position but if it's a tested position then again, the village has already determined the successful candidate without seeking applications, tests being taken, etc. as in the marchionda water plant job
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#1236995 - 12/01/10 07:19 AM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: Yank3]
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beeba24
Senior Member
Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 961
Loc: NY
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What's up with this site? It doesn't give anywhere near all of PY employees. Where's the MUB ( Electric, Water and Sewer) workers? It has Willie's salary, but no other Trustees' . It has a part time summer worker (Hamm), but no others. We see Brockman's salary, but not Shawna's, Bodine's or Osgood's. Should all public employees' salary be public? How does this site get the figures? I don't get it. Yes they should and regarding Osgood & Bodine, it's apparently been pre-decided that Bodine is the heir apparent. No advertising, no interviews and there's also been a new guy hired to take bodine's place that has been on the job for months "learning". This practice is BS. Maybe the Bodine promotion is legal if it's an appointed position but if it's a tested position then again, the village has already determined the successful candidate without seeking applications, tests being taken, etc. as in the marchionda water plant job
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#1237033 - 12/01/10 10:32 AM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: McLovin']
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C.I.Brown
Member
Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
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What's up with this site? It doesn't give anywhere near all of PY employees. Where's the MUB ( Electric, Water and Sewer) workers? It has Willie's salary, but no other Trustees' . It has a part time summer worker (Hamm), but no others. We see Brockman's salary, but not Shawna's, Bodine's or Osgood's. Should all public employees' salary be public? How does this site get the figures? I don't get it.
You're right, there are no MUB salaries. You can separate the police and the general fund employees on this website. However, if you are paid out of more than one fund, ie. general and water or sewer funds, then your salary is not listed. Mr. Brockman earns $27318 from the village's general fund. How much is he earning from the other funds? Pretty cushy for a part-time job.
I vote yes, publish salaries and benefits on the front page of the newspaper.
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#1237085 - 12/01/10 01:05 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: C.I.Brown]
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Farquar
Member
Registered: 10/21/10
Posts: 87
Loc: NY
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Our unions get whatever they want from the village. WE pay the bill and the trustees are there to look out for us. The trustees just wring their hands and say oh well and rubberstamp the new outragous contract. Just start hooking contracts to cost of living not just infinite 3% every year no matter what. The salaries and benefits are way out of line for income levels in this area.
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#1237086 - 12/01/10 01:06 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: C.I.Brown]
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SAJSDJ
Junior Member
Registered: 12/01/10
Posts: 5
Loc: Yates
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Has no one in this forum have anything good to say about PY??? I do know that many of the village employees work darn hard for their $ and deserve it. And way to many women working in the village hall? I do believe if ANY of you had a friend or relative or you yourself working one of these jobs your tune would change signifigantly. Sounds like alot of sour grapes here. Was someone you know not hired for one of these jobs?? You say that they do not interview or post jobs, they hire friends, relatives and friends of friends...that is life in a small town either you like it or you don't, it happens all the time for any job around here not just the village ie the school, the hospital even the grocery store! Raises are fast and furious, you are joking right? I bet you wouldn't say that if it was you or one of your family members..I also do not know many of the village employees that own lake property..rediculous
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#1237093 - 12/01/10 01:28 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: SAJSDJ]
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Farquar
Member
Registered: 10/21/10
Posts: 87
Loc: NY
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And we hear from one of our over worked under paid village employees. So just hiring friends and family is just the way it is---AKA GOOD OL BOYS CLUB
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#1237094 - 12/01/10 01:29 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: SAJSDJ]
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Farquar
Member
Registered: 10/21/10
Posts: 87
Loc: NY
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And we hear from one of our over worked under paid village employees. So just hiring friends and family is just the way it is---AKA GOOD OL BOYS CLUB
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#1237095 - 12/01/10 01:36 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: Farquar]
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SAJSDJ
Junior Member
Registered: 12/01/10
Posts: 5
Loc: Yates
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Sorry to report that I am not a village employee now nor have ever been. Just a normal Joe stating an opinion. And yes in any small town that is just the way it is and if you have ever had any children in sports or looked for a job around here and see who gets the starting positions or hired you know that is how it is...I don't even know who the Good Ol Boys Club is nor do I care...
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#1237097 - 12/01/10 01:40 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: SAJSDJ]
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C.I.Brown
Member
Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 440
Loc: PY,NY
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Has no one in this forum have anything good to say about PY??? I do know that many of the village employees work darn hard for their $ and deserve it. And way to many women working in the village hall? I do believe if ANY of you had a friend or relative or you yourself working one of these jobs your tune would change signifigantly. Sounds like alot of sour grapes here. Was someone you know not hired for one of these jobs?? You say that they do not interview or post jobs, they hire friends, relatives and friends of friends...that is life in a small town either you like it or you don't, it happens all the time for any job around here not just the village ie the school, the hospital even the grocery store! Raises are fast and furious, you are joking right? I bet you wouldn't say that if it was you or one of your family members..I also do not know many of the village employees that own lake property..rediculous
As a matter of fact, I do know of someone who would have gone for the water plant operator job if he had known about it. However, the village board can pay clothing allowances to all the women who work in village hall, but they can't seem to afford a want ad for a water plant operator. Oh that's right, their buddy Marchionda was preselected.
If you compare salaries, expenditures, and revenues from other villages of comparable population, it becomes all too clear that our expenses, salaries, and the number of employees are top heavy.
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#1237134 - 12/01/10 04:42 PM
Re: Penn Yan Payroll Needs to be Trimmed
[Re: C.I.Brown]
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Yank3
Member
Registered: 07/30/10
Posts: 140
Loc: The Stadium
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Has no one in this forum have anything good to say about PY??? I do know that many of the village employees work darn hard for their $ and deserve it. And way to many women working in the village hall? I do believe if ANY of you had a friend or relative or you yourself working one of these jobs your tune would change signifigantly. Sounds like alot of sour grapes here. Was someone you know not hired for one of these jobs?? You say that they do not interview or post jobs, they hire friends, relatives and friends of friends...that is life in a small town either you like it or you don't, it happens all the time for any job around here not just the village ie the school, the hospital even the grocery store! Raises are fast and furious, you are joking right? I bet you wouldn't say that if it was you or one of your family members..I also do not know many of the village employees that own lake property..rediculous As a matter of fact, I do know of someone who would have gone for the water plant operator job if he had known about it. However, the village board can pay clothing allowances to all the women who work in village hall, but they can't seem to afford a want ad for a water plant operator. Oh that's right, their buddy Marchionda was preselected. If you compare salaries, expenditures, and revenues from other villages of comparable population, it becomes all too clear that our expenses, salaries, and the number of employees are top heavy.
Yes, CI, crystal clear!
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