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#1467689 --- 03/18/15 07:59 PM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
margeS Offline
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Here's another site you should keep your eye on. https://geneva-comprehenisve-plan.squarespace.com/
They are paying these guys big bucks to tell us what we really want. They are the same folks behind the Neighborhood study http://genevanrc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/GENEVA-FINAL-Jan9.pdf
that tells us clearly why some neighborhoods must be saved and others left to rot. It's all a lot of class driven hogwash. Some of their materials verges on the racist. Read their blog here to be shocked http://czb.org/2012/05/.

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#1467696 --- 03/19/15 07:19 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
Spi63 Offline
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When I redid my entire sidewalk a few years ago, I had to pay for it. And I don't have the millions that HWS has!

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#1467700 --- 03/19/15 10:44 AM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
ScubaSteve78 Offline
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Registered: 09/09/09
Posts: 270
Loc: Bottom of Seneca Lake
That survey is a joke, you can vote multiple times and while using any "address" in the city. That's what 200k for the GNRC gets us folks, a survey that doesn't even provide an actual survey. The +/- on it could be 100% mathematically, especially if Hobart kids are taking the survey multiple times a day to skew the numbers at the behest of the college (not saying that is happening). It's a done deal, this "survey" is merely an appeasement tactic. It's nothing more than a knee jerk reaction by the city after the outpouring disapproval of the plan. The road is still closed today. As stated by others this was done on purpose and I feel it will never be open to the public again.

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#1467708 --- 03/19/15 12:33 PM Re: New Budget [Re: ScubaSteve78]
Lucinda Knotts Offline
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Registered: 01/11/11
Posts: 4459
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I think you're on to something there, Steve. What HWS appears to really want is to close off the campus so that city residents won't intrude on their island. Can't even drive through the campus to avoid traffic, cars lining both sides of the road, and jaywalking students on South Main when headed south. The GNRC should make up some special neighborhood signs for them -- it'll be the only "neighborhood" in the city that's essentially a gated community -- city residents keep out. Nothing says "welcome" like a road closed sign!


Edited by Lucinda Knotts (03/19/15 12:37 PM)

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#1468189 --- 03/28/15 11:34 AM Re: New Budget [Re: ScubaSteve78]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
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Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: ScubaSteve78
That survey is a joke, you can vote multiple times and while using any "address" in the city.


the city should have a survey asking the (40%) taxpayers if they would like their taxes to go down by 30% if the benefits assessment district was establish and all tax exempt properties (70%) would pay their fair share


is hws trying to take streets near their campus off the cities books so that if the benefits assessment disctrict ever passes then hws will have to pay less money into the benefits assessment district

the city should repair/replace pulteney street from hamilton to castle street

the street area near hws campus should just have the pot holes repaired
let hws pay for the costs if they want further improvements in that area

if it is hws position that there will be too much traffic once the performing center is open then let them move the building to a better suited located

deny the C of O
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#1471872 --- 06/05/15 08:45 AM Re: New Budget [Re: ScubaSteve78]
bluezone Offline
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Originally Posted By: ScubaSteve78
It's nothing more than a knee jerk reaction by the city after the outpouring disapproval of the plan. The road is still closed today. As stated by others this was done on purpose and I feel it will never be open to the public again.


local newspaper indicated the city street to be opened june 12

time will tell...
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#1474743 --- 08/27/15 09:36 PM New Budget [Re: margeS]
bluezone Offline
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local newspaper states the prelim budget may see a zero increase for taxpayers

possible elimination of events factory and gnrc
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#1474759 --- 08/28/15 08:59 AM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
4sizzle Offline
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Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 269
Loc: here and there
Good news should have been gone a long time ago. We probably would not have to be replenishing the fund balance to the tune of $150,000 per year if that move had not been made.

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#1474764 --- 08/28/15 11:15 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
Downeaster63 Offline
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Registered: 06/11/13
Posts: 28
Loc: Geneva,NY
It doesn't look like it will be eliminated, as further down in the article it mentions the GNRC as taking a bigger role in community building. So is it eliminated or isn't it?

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#1474871 --- 08/28/15 11:17 PM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
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#1475078 --- 09/03/15 08:27 AM Re: New Budget [Re: Downeaster63]
Jeff Peters Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 1004
Loc: Geneva
No, it is not. But the office is being moved to City Hall.

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#1475079 --- 09/03/15 09:07 AM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
Spi63 Offline
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Registered: 08/03/08
Posts: 402
Loc: Geneva, New York ,
Then of course Mr Greco will be bringing up the 911 again right after the election. He really doesn't care about what the taxpayers have invested in the move to where it belongs, the county. He just worries about his buddies at the firehouse. It's not the, I quote, "slower response, or your house fire insurance will go up" because it is BS. What isn't BS is the fact that most of the phones in Geneva aren't wired to use the old 911 call center, because Verizon is the only one that went there. And the $5,000,000.00 price tag to up grade the whole system. People, the latest number I have heard is we are at or very close to the 30% property tax base.....It's time to start making cuts and hard decisions concerning, salaries, insurance, outside contractors, equipment, and of course the "events (lister) coordinator which is one of the most useless jobs considering we are a city of aprox. 11,000 people. That doesn't include the 2,000 students at HWS, which I don't believed should be in our population count. So it goes on and we keep paying...

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#1475494 --- 09/12/15 04:43 PM Re: New Budget [Re: Spi63]
bluezone Offline
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Originally Posted By: Spi63
Then of course Mr Greco will be bringing up the 911 again right after the election. He really doesn't care about what the taxpayers have invested in the move to where it belongs, the county. He just worries about his buddies at the firehouse.


the state comp office audit is happy that the 911 was moved to the county
will save around $1.4 million over five years

if mr greco would like to cover ALL the costs to keep it in geneva just let him open up his wallet to pay for it from this point forward

also believe he stated there needs to be more senior housing in geneva

if the taxes were not so high the seniors could remain in their homes

image how much lower the taxes would be if the 911 moved to the county many years ago

more seniors could have stayed in their homes

what are the yearly costs for the fire pull boxes on the telephone poles?
time to eliminate them as canandaigua does not have them
everyone has cell phones
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#1475736 --- 09/14/15 02:55 PM Re: New Budget [Re: Jeff Peters]
bluezone Offline
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some one said they saw the televised council meeting
it appears that the visitors center has an 'echo' problem

install drapes on the walls to absorb the sound
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#1475743 --- 09/14/15 03:13 PM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
roundtable Offline
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Registered: 03/30/11
Posts: 112
Loc: new york state
Duh....... its basically a gym with carpeting isnt it? They didnt think about that when it was designed? Oh boy!

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#1476438 --- 10/06/15 09:37 AM Re: New Budget [Re: roundtable]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
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Loc: USA
the tax rate would need to down by 2.33% to meet the tax cap

council has to override the tax cap for a zero tax increase

is there something that the manager/city council is keep from the taxpayers?
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#1476440 --- 10/06/15 09:44 AM Re: New Budget [Re: roundtable]
bluezone Offline
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council is considering eliminating the televised council meetings

will the $100,000 go back to the taxpayers that pay the surcharge on their time warner cable bill for the public access fee
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#1476441 --- 10/06/15 09:53 AM Re: New Budget [Re: roundtable]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
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the new 911 tower is to be placed on a non city building downtown that requires a lease

once the tower is placed on a non city building the lease can be increase and the city (taxpayers) have to pay the increase - is this another outof control fire house lease?

place the new 911 tower on city hall

eliminate the fire pull boxes as the county 911 does not support the system - use the savings to lower the property taxes - how much taxpayer money was used for this system each year?
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#1476754 --- 10/14/15 03:06 PM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
Kells Offline
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Registered: 04/16/15
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I have heard several people say that the visitor center rates are prohibitive and that they wouldn't consider it for events. Does anyone know how they compare to other event spaces in the area? I'd be curious to know how often it's rented vs. how often it's vacant - are those figures published anywhere?

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#1477080 --- 10/21/15 03:24 PM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
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Registered: 12/12/11
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Revised city budget to be presented

GENEVA — Based on suggestions made by City Council last week, City Manager Matt Horn tonight will present a revised 2016 city budget that adds $40,100 in new costs along with $70,000 in new revenue.

Amendments Horn will propose at tonight’s second budget workshop
include:

• Not spending $30,000 to contract with an outside firm to do a salary study and benefits report on city employees. That study may be done internally at a cost of $5,000, saving $25,000.

• Restoring $15,500 to record Council meetings for broadcast on
Finger Lakes Television Channel 12.

• Not hiring two, full-time laborers to deal with unkempt lawns, garbage and debris and unshoveled sidewalks at a projected cost of $55,000. At Council’s suggestion, the Business Improvement District has offered to do that work at a cost of $30,000, saving $25,000.

• Keeping the city’s lawn debris transfer station on Doran Avenue
open from 8 a.m. to noon one weekend a month during the growing and debris season. That will increase the budget by $3,000 in overtime costs.

• Restoration of the Geneva Historical Society’s allocation for a
mobile phone tour program, increasing the budget by $1,600.

• Restoration of single and two family rental structure inspections, a program discontinued in 2011. Councilors wanted this program reinstated.

Horn said this will add 1,300 units of housing units to the inspection schedule. Horn recommended that the additional
workload not be handled by existing staff. He proposed hiring an
additional housing inspector at a cost of $70,000. To pay for it, Horn proposed adding new inspection fees. He suggested a
tiered rate structure that calls for no fee for the first inspection, a $75 fee for a second inspection and $150 for a
third or subsequent inspection. He said that would generate $70,000 to offset the new inspector.

• Horn said Council supports reinvigorating the equipment amortization or reserve fund. He said staff should do an inventory of all existing major equipment, anticipated replacement dates, anticipated replacement costs and amortization schedules.

“This should guide Council in development of future budgets,’’ Horn said. The net effect of the amendments is that savings exceed new costs by $29,900.

Horn said Council will discuss the amendments and could suggest more changes tonight.
A third budget session could be conducted next Wednesday, the night Council plans to vote on adoption of a final budget.

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