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#1222571 --- 10/01/10 05:32 AM New Budget
cRaZeD Offline
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I just heard of some things about the puposed city budget. The only good news is No raises in property taxes. Besides that, No decreases in spending mentioned yet. Nieghborhood initioative going from 175k to 1.5 mill. Reserve fund that we have of aprox 900k will be used to meet shortfalls across the board. Next year we will be Bankrupt. If you cant figure it out this year you wont get it right next year, what are they thinking? Ohh don't forget the 36% increase on sewer bills, didnt they just raise the freakin water and sewer?
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#1222587 --- 10/01/10 07:14 AM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
bluezone Offline
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Originally Posted By: KiDcRaZeD
Nieghborhood initioative going from 175k to 1.5 mill.


reason for the increase?
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#1222597 --- 10/01/10 08:15 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
threeputt Offline
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JoJo?

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#1222601 --- 10/01/10 08:26 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
GLAMorous Offline
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: KiDcRaZeD
Nieghborhood initioative going from 175k to 1.5 mill.


reason for the increase?


http://fltimes.com/articles/2010/09/30/news/doc4ca4c4e5b8866850643412.txt

New approach, same tax rate
City budget process has changed, but result likely to be the same in terms of cost to residents

by DAVID L. SHAW/dshaw@fltimes.com
Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:07 PM CDT


GENEVA — A new city budget process will likely produce the same old tax rate.

The first draft of a 2011 city budget was unveiled at Wednesday’s City Council meeting.

Although the budget is up by some $800,000, the tax rate per $1,000 of assessed value is expected to remain at $18.26, the fifth consecutive year that rate has been proposed.

With city assessments basically the same as this year, most property owners should not see an increase in their city tax bill.

The spending plan was presented by City Manager Mathew Horn, who had city staff involved in the Council-approved process called “budgeting for priorities” for the first time.
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Rather than have department heads submit budget requests to Horn for analysis and adjustment, the new process involved having departments submit requests for proposals for providing administrative, community and public safety services.

“The goal was to find out exactly what it will cost to deliver the services you have asked for,” he told the six Council members present. Absent were Jason Hagerman, Jacqueline Augustine and Stephen O’Malley.

Horn said $400,000 was taken from the general fund reserves to allow the tax rate to remain the same.

The draft budget contains some new initiatives that resulted from the more involved budget process.

They include:

• Revamping City Hall by relocating and retraining staff to deal with customers on a more efficient and timely basis, emphasizing a single point of entry and having multiple staff members able to handle several different customer requests.

• A new software system for financial matters with a customer service component. It would cost some $250,000, spread over several years.

• Saturday office hours for city residents at the Geneva Neighborhood Resource Center on Seneca Street. There also is a community survey planned for 1,200 city households to gauge how the city is providing services and showing areas needing improvement.

• More efforts at providing information to the public through weekly press conferences, weekly radio programs and an overhauled website, social network and the e-blast mass e-mailings.

• Digitizing many records in the city clerk’s office so they are searchable on the website. Also, a public education campaign by the assessor’s office to dispel misinformation about the impact of home improvements on assessments.

• An expanded campaign to revitalize city neighborhoods, working with real estate agencies to market specific neighborhoods. The budget calls for more “curb appeal” projects, a new 50-50 sidewalk replacement program and continued assistance provided by the city’s Neighborhoods Office.

• Streets to be reconstructed in 2011 could be Lewis Street from Exchange to LaFayette and Norwood, Sharon and Cross streets. Other capital projects planned are new catch basins, water system improvements, sewer plant upgrades, cemetery upgrades and a lakefront accessibility project for the disabled.

• Equipment purchases planned are a backhoe, mini-excavator, water meter testing tank and a lawn mower.

• A public information officer for the police department, a neighborhood policing strategy with bicycle and foot patrols. The plan also calls for youth services in partnership with the county and school district. That includes a list of at-risk youth who would be targeted for activities.

• Dispatching services would remain in the city in a combined operation housed in an addition to be built onto the fire department.

The water budget would not include a rate hike in light of new, more accurate meters installed this year. Horn said sewer rates are projected to rise 34 percent, caused by payment on a $15 million sewer plant upgrade in 2008 coming due and the loss of $30,000 in revenue from not treating leachate from the Ontario County Landfill.

A public hearing will be held on the budget at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the start of Council’s regular monthly meeting.

Council members present received a copy of the budget on a tiny computer flash drive, rather than a binder with hundreds of pages.

See today's Finger Lakes Times for a city budget comparison.
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#1222608 --- 10/01/10 09:03 AM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
DJ c Offline
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The Neighborhood Initiative is another example of a waste of taxpayer money. Whatever Eric, the leader of the program, wants, he gets. We as citizens of this City don't have to pay someone to tell us what neighborhoods are dumps and what neighborhoods set good examples and resemble what the footprint of Geneva is supposed to be. Giving them more money so they can erect signs stating that a particular neighborhood won an award is ridiculous. People state that we should contact our "reps" and tell them how we feel. How many of us believe that they really care what we think? If Jackie or Steve O were my council member, I wouldn't call them for anything. They have their own agendas and it definitely isn't on behalf of their ward members. Council and their committees think they have all the answers for Geneva's rebirth, but Do They?

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#1222610 --- 10/01/10 09:13 AM Re: New Budget [Re: DJ c]
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Registered: 09/30/10
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Interesting!!! And, not to mention the fact that this "Initiative" has focused more on properties that are not as bad as other properties in the area. They should first and foremost be focusing their attention and improvement upon the neighborhoods that are in dire need of attention. Before...they run out of funding. Drive around - you will see the run down areas in the City still exist and look no better than before. It's ridiculous!

Originally Posted By: DJ c
The Neighborhood Initiative is another example of a waste of taxpayer money. Whatever Eric, the leader of the program, wants, he gets. We as citizens of this City don't have to pay someone to tell us what neighborhoods are dumps and what neighborhoods set good examples and resemble what the footprint of Geneva is supposed to be. Giving them more money so they can erect signs stating that a particular neighborhood won an award is ridiculous. People state that we should contact our "reps" and tell them how we feel. How many of us believe that they really care what we think? If Jackie or Steve O were my council member, I wouldn't call them for anything. They have their own agendas and it definitely isn't on behalf of their ward members. Council and their committees think they have all the answers for Geneva's rebirth, but Do They?
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#1222660 --- 10/01/10 11:18 AM Re: New Budget [Re: GLAMorous]
bluezone Offline
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Originally Posted By: GLAMorous
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: KiDcRaZeD
Nieghborhood initioative going from 175k to 1.5 mill.


reason for the increase?



• Saturday office hours for city residents at the Geneva Neighborhood Resource Center on Seneca Street. There also is a community survey planned for 1,200 city households to gauge how the city is providing services and showing areas needing improvement.



• An expanded campaign to revitalize city neighborhoods, working with real estate agencies to market specific neighborhoods. The budget calls for more “curb appeal” projects, a new 50-50 sidewalk replacement program and continued assistance provided by the city’s Neighborhoods Office.



$1.5 million for these 2 items?

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#1222663 --- 10/01/10 11:24 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
FLvino Offline
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Don't worry! Socialism is only expensive for a while. After the money is gone its a quick change into communism.
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: GLAMorous
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: KiDcRaZeD
Nieghborhood initioative going from 175k to 1.5 mill.


reason for the increase?



• Saturday office hours for city residents at the Geneva Neighborhood Resource Center on Seneca Street. There also is a community survey planned for 1,200 city households to gauge how the city is providing services and showing areas needing improvement.



• An expanded campaign to revitalize city neighborhoods, working with real estate agencies to market specific neighborhoods. The budget calls for more “curb appeal” projects, a new 50-50 sidewalk replacement program and continued assistance provided by the city’s Neighborhoods Office.



$1.5 million for these 2 items?

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#1222771 --- 10/01/10 06:12 PM Re: New Budget [Re: GLAMorous]
jojotaxpayer Offline
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Registered: 04/04/08
Posts: 2500
Loc: Ontario County
Quote:

• A public information officer for the police department,{if this is a new hire it's a complete waste, plenty of cops sitting around doing nothing}

a neighborhood policing strategy with bicycle and foot patrols. {Yes, the police could use lots more exercise. Maybe give them a reality check}

• Dispatching services would remain in the city in a combined operation housed in an addition to be built onto the fire department. {They are really clinging to this dispatching, complete waste of money}

Horn said sewer rates are projected to rise 34 percent, caused by payment on a $15 million sewer plant upgrade in 2008 coming due and the loss of $30,000 in revenue from not treating leachate from the Ontario County Landfill.
{There it is, the big revenue maker. Water and Sewer. Makes it look like they aren't raising taxes}


Glad I don't live in the City.

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#1222813 --- 10/01/10 08:42 PM Re: New Budget [Re: jojotaxpayer]
threeputt Offline
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Registered: 12/08/01
Posts: 2800
Loc: Waterloo
Originally Posted By: jojotaxpayer
Quote:

• A public information officer for the police department,{if this is a new hire it's a complete waste, plenty of cops sitting around doing nothing}

a neighborhood policing strategy with bicycle and foot patrols. {Yes, the police could use lots more exercise. Maybe give them a reality check}

• Dispatching services would remain in the city in a combined operation housed in an addition to be built onto the fire department. {They are really clinging to this dispatching, complete waste of money}

Horn said sewer rates are projected to rise 34 percent, caused by payment on a $15 million sewer plant upgrade in 2008 coming due and the loss of $30,000 in revenue from not treating leachate from the Ontario County Landfill.
{There it is, the big revenue maker. Water and Sewer. Makes it look like they aren't raising taxes}


Glad I don't live in the City.


I think most Genevans are glad too.....

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#1222841 --- 10/01/10 10:28 PM Re: New Budget [Re: jojotaxpayer]
wiseguy1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 1993
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: jojotaxpayer
Quote:

• A public information officer for the police department,{if this is a new hire it's a complete waste, plenty of cops sitting around doing nothing}

a neighborhood policing strategy with bicycle and foot patrols. {Yes, the police could use lots more exercise. Maybe give them a reality check}

• Dispatching services would remain in the city in a combined operation housed in an addition to be built onto the fire department. {They are really clinging to this dispatching, complete waste of money}

Horn said sewer rates are projected to rise 34 percent, caused by payment on a $15 million sewer plant upgrade in 2008 coming due and the loss of $30,000 in revenue from not treating leachate from the Ontario County Landfill.
{There it is, the big revenue maker. Water and Sewer. Makes it look like they aren't raising taxes}


Glad I don't live in the City.



You can thank the bright ones from Zero Waste into conning the city council with their BS for the loss of the leachate revenue. In the paper it says $30,000 but on the radio Horn says it is closer to $200,000. Those people don't care as long as they push their agenda on everybody else.

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#1222846 --- 10/01/10 10:51 PM Re: New Budget [Re: wiseguy1]
Qwill Pen Offline
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Registered: 05/17/08
Posts: 821
Loc: New York
Don't let them do the smoke and mirrors trick on us tax payers. They say "no tax rate increase" and while that may be true, they did announce earlier this year that they plan to do a city-wide PROPERTY RE-EVALUATION. So they will raise your assessment hence raising your taxes, but still saying no rate increase.

Lots of tricky ways to do things.

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#1222885 --- 10/02/10 07:05 AM Re: New Budget [Re: Qwill Pen]
Spi63 Offline
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Registered: 08/03/08
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Loc: Geneva, New York ,
Could save $500,000.00 with doing away 911......

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#1222891 --- 10/02/10 07:46 AM Re: New Budget [Re: Spi63]
wiseguy1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Spi63
Could save $500,000.00 with doing away 911......


The problem is the unions control the city and therefore it will never happen.

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#1222892 --- 10/02/10 07:50 AM Re: New Budget [Re: Spi63]
pingu Offline
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Posts: 610
Loc: Right here.
Just more deaftone officials in this town. What part of "reduce taxes" isn't clear? If the jump in the GNRC funding is true then the promise that the program wouldn't cost us taxpayers anything was a big, fat LIE.

Maybe letting Geneva City government go bankrupt will wake some people up.

Can anyone explain the BIG jump in GNRC funding if it is true? If this is what is proposed, I'd like a detailed accounting of what's being done with that money!

I'm starting to sound like jojo....

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#1223125 --- 10/03/10 01:10 PM Re: New Budget [Re: Spi63]
bluezone Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
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Originally Posted By: KiDcRaZeD

Nieghborhood initioative going from 175k to 1.5 mill.



Originally Posted By: Spi63
Could save $500,000.00 with doing away 911......


could save $2 million by doing away with both
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#1223169 --- 10/03/10 03:02 PM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
jojotaxpayer Offline
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Posts: 2500
Loc: Ontario County
Ya! Bluezone for City Manager!

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#1223173 --- 10/03/10 03:46 PM Re: New Budget [Re: wiseguy1]
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Originally Posted By: wiseguy1
Originally Posted By: Spi63
Could save $500,000.00 with doing away 911......


The problem is the unions control the city and therefore it will never happen.


Geneva City Schools reduced staff. Unions can't stop staff reductions. They just have seniority rules when making those reductions.
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#1223176 --- 10/03/10 04:15 PM Re: New Budget [Re: wiseguy1]
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Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: wiseguy1
You can thank the bright ones from Zero Waste into conning the city council with their BS for the loss of the leachate revenue. In the paper it says $30,000 but on the radio Horn says it is closer to $200,000. Those people don't care as long as they push their agenda on everybody else.


Typical trash pusher tactics, lewd language, harassment and threats of tax hikes and doom and gloom. They dont even live here.
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#1223204 --- 10/03/10 06:34 PM Re: New Budget [Re: Genevan]
cRaZeD Offline
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I could be wrong but its my understanding that the salaries for 911 is just over 200/per year. If we get rid of the 911 center we could loose out on grants for equipment. Also if we loose 911 we still have to pay to man a dispatcher to send out the fire calls and the equipment is the same for dispatcher I am told. So how would we save?

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