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#1342665 - 05/04/12 11:27 PM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking *DELETED*
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#1342736 - 05/05/12 10:27 AM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking
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Ambient
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Without an act of God, the Japanese would still be cooking with nukes. It's flip analogy. There's an effort to veer away from nukes because of that experience, but the EPA, which everyone is so quick to quote, just approved the building of a new nuke on the Gulf Coast, I believe.
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#1342758 - 05/05/12 01:59 PM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking
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VM Smith
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Without an act of God, the Japanese would still be cooking with nukes. It's flip analogy. There's an effort to veer away from nukes because of that experience, but the EPA, which everyone is so quick to quote, just approved the building of a new nuke on the Gulf Coast, I believe.
Act of God? You're saying that God has it in for the Japanese? What's His problem? They don't look like Jesus, maybe?
One of the strategies the US used to force Japan into war was the oil embargo, directed at a country that has zero oil, by a country that, at the time, was the world's biggest producer. In 1950, FI, the US still produced over half the world's oil, a far cry from the 8% it produced in 2005, FI. That embargo is defined as an act of war.
The Japanese vowed that it would never happen again, so the twice nuclear attacked country bit the bullet and jumped on nuke power with both feet.
There's an effort to veer away from nukes because of that experience, but the EPA, which everyone is so quick to quote, just approved the building of a new nuke on the Gulf Coast, I believe.
I've been quick to say (after pondering it for 40 years, LOL) that government, as a whole, doesn't care much at all about those it rules, and I think it should be clear that the unelected bureaucracies, such as the EPA, will care even less.
The Japanese have switched to being slowly cooked with nukes. The contamination is here now, and will eventually be worldwide. Depending on what happens with what used to be fuel pools, but which are now dry and tottering, and with the crane which could be used to move the fuel rods toppled, the contamination will probably get much worse than it is now; it may well be the bonfire to end all bonfires. Governments are even lying about the extent of the present contamination. Same old same old.
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#1342770 - 05/05/12 06:10 PM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking *DELETED*
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Genevan
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Local prostitution linked to gas drilling industry
Three women arrested in Horseheads after police sting
11:16 PM, Feb. 20, 2012
Written by
Jeff Murray
The natural gas boom apparently has brought an unwelcome corollary business to the area -- prostitution.
Police over the weekend arrested three women at motels in Horseheads and charged them with prostitution following an undercover investigation involving Horseheads police, the Chemung County Sheriff's Office, the state police community narcotics enforcement unit and the Broome County special investigations unit.
Charged were Page Kirshblum, 20, and Angela D. Turner, 24, both of Rochester, who were arrested at the Motel 6, and Nicole A. Kuzmin, 24, of East Islip, N.Y., who was arrested at the Red Carpet Inn.
The emergence of prostitution in this region is probably connected at least in part to the influx of workers as a result of natural gas drilling and exploration, said Horseheads police Sgt. David Murray.
"One of the prostitutes we interviewed said a significant portion of her clientele works for the gas industry," Murray said.
Murray didn't indicate if more arrests are pending, but he said the investigation is continuing.
Prostitution often brings with it related crimes such as the use and sale of drugs, robbery and assault, police said.
Kirshblum, Turner and Kuzmin were arraigned in Village of Horseheads Court and were committed to the Chemung County Jail in lieu of $500 cash bail.
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#1342773 - 05/05/12 06:59 PM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking
[Re: VM Smith]
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Ambient
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Act of God, like in tsunami of unimagined proportions....like the small print in your homeowners ins.... I frankly don't care what we did to the Japanese post WWII. You can only prepare for so much... earthquake zones, diving 747s....etc.. American plants are designed for the real and imagined events that might impact them. What happens of it's two 747s...? Who knows? I do know this: the hysteria and boohooing over Three Mile Island went for naught. No three-headed goats. No sinking reactors to China. And, today, the plant is up and safely running. The singular, unvarnished truth is nukes provide clean, safe inexpensive power. I have the same unreserved hope for natural gas. Clear thinking people feel the same way. Then there's.....the chicken littles who have yet to be correct about anything. That includes the natural gas impacts and Y2K as well.
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#1342782 - 05/05/12 08:51 PM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking
[Re: Ambient]
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VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
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Act of God, like in tsunami of unimagined proportions....like the small print in your homeowners ins.... I frankly don't care what we did to the Japanese post WWII. You can only prepare for so much... earthquake zones, diving 747s...
No doubt. You don't even care that the embargo I mentioned happened prewar, and was one of the prime ways that the USG caused the Japanese war.
Sure it was imagined...Japan is one of the most earthquake-prone countries in the world. They just thought their emergency diesels, on which they'd bet the farm, would never fail to work. Never. Ha! anybody who knows anything about wet engines and generators knows that could never happen!
You say it was an act of God. I'll ask again why God would smite Japan. A hit on the Shinto religion, whose adherents have many "false" gods before them?
I consider it a natural and man-made disaster, not a supernatural one. Of course, I wonder why He allowed it to happen, now that you've brought Him into it.
American plants are designed for the real and imagined events that might impact them.
Fukushima is an American plant, in the sense that it was designed by GE. There are 23 essentially similar reactors in the states.
Three Mile was nothing like Chernobyl, which has killed a million people to date. The total radioactivity in the Fukushima pools is 85 times what was released by Chernobyl.
The singular, unvarnished truth is nukes provide clean, safe inexpensive power. I have the same unreserved hope for natural gas.
Your endorsement of that "unvarnished truth" doesn't exactly inspire confidence in any other endorsement you may make.
You equate anyone worried about drilling into their aquifers, and around their lakes with Y2K freaks? Equate fears about things that have actually happened elsewhere, happening here , with the Y2K, almost entirely imagined phenomena that might possibly, theoretically happen?
Could be, but I think the anti-frackers couldn't be the same people. I think all the Y2K types are in the Occupy movement. 
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#1342837 - 05/06/12 08:48 AM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking
[Re: Genevan]
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Ambient
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Registered: 02/07/05
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Loc: Seneca Falls
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@VM. I don't know what you're drinking, but it's obvious that you are missing vital skills. The "act of God" note refers to things outside the consideration of insurance companies and unnatural event planners. Other than that, you're welcome to your observations, but the Occupiers, Y2kers, and Global Warmists (thanks for the reminder, Geneva!) all are anti-fracking activists as well. And, as I'm sure you know, people are known by the company they keep. That axis of foolishness spread the falsehoods and make up other lies that seek to tear down American energy production. So, you can be against fracking and be sane, but you have to look at who supports your fears and decide if you want to be part of their movement.
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#1342909 - 05/06/12 01:16 PM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking
[Re: Ambient]
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VM Smith
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Registered: 11/28/05
Posts: 34311
Loc: Reality
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M. I don't know what you're drinking, but it's obvious that you are missing vital skills. The "act of God" note refers to things outside the consideration of insurance companies and unnatural event planners.
I know what is meant. You are lacking the vital skill of being able to discern that I think it's a stupid, even when metaphorically used, insurance company, and popular, expression, because I don't see real natural disasters as acts of an imaginary God, but simply as randomly occurring natural events. I've had 1 oz of alcohol in the last 2 months, BTW, not because I keep myself under any certain limit, but simply because I don't drink much.
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#1343013 - 05/07/12 03:51 AM
Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking *DELETED*
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