FingerLakes1.com Forums
Browse or Create Your Listing
Page 35 of 71 « First<3334353637>Last »
Topic Options
#1339333 - 04/18/12 07:50 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: kyle585]
rj1
Member


Registered: 02/18/12
Posts: 429
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.fingerlakesdailynews.com/news/details.cfm?clientid=16&id=18067

1/7/2012 9:33:38 AM

(Canandaigua, NY) - Canandaigua City Manager Kay James says there are false rumors circulating in the community that Canandaigua Lake has been polluted by hydrofracking. Some people believe that the city is treating hydrofracking waste at its water treatment facility, but James says that's not the case.

James says the city used to accept for treatment groundwater generated by gas-well drilling operations, but it has not done so since the fall of 2009. In April 2011, the Canandaigua City Council adopted a resolution affirming the existing policy of not accepting wastewater at its plant from any gas-well drilling operations.


Kinda hard to pollute Canandaigua lake from the WWTP Kyle unless you can make water run uphill. Knowing you though you probably have a theory on that issue.

Top
#1339349 - 04/18/12 09:58 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Ambient]
Butt
Senior Member


Registered: 03/24/12
Posts: 883
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: Ambient
It's my opinion having watched the FLI from it's startup produce nothing of value. It is my opinion that the FLI should be leading in protecting the lakes by advancing solutions to the challenges. The DEC knows what the problems are with the lakes.
Those opinions give me an advantage in dealing with gasbags like you who post opinions with no substance.


Ambient, the first step in solving a problem is to study the problem and figure what is causeing the problem. A solution would come in the form of a LAW. Do you really want a college making laws ?

Can we stick to FRACKING ?


Edited by Butt Head (04/18/12 10:23 AM)

Top
#1339382 - 04/18/12 12:51 PM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Butt]
Ambient
Member


Registered: 02/07/05
Posts: 147
Loc: Seneca Falls
You're right about staying on topic.... With the FLI, it's always been my hope that actionable recommendations would be forthcoming. Back to Frack....
Top
#1339454 - 04/18/12 06:31 PM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Ambient]
Genevan
Senior Member


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 1641
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: Ambient
those leaving Birkenstock tracks as thy migrate in smelly lines from Ithaca to instruct us rubes. For chrissake


Didn't Christ wear sandals?

Your confused - scientists' are not responsible for "actionable recommendations" to communities. They use the scientific method to assess and report findings. They are not in the business of telling folks what to do. Thats where the democracy and the people's right to organize come in.
_________________________
Statements by this member are personal opinion and are not to be construed as intentional slander.

Top
#1339459 - 04/18/12 07:49 PM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Genevan]
rj1
Member


Registered: 02/18/12
Posts: 429
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: Genevan
Originally Posted By: Ambient
those leaving Birkenstock tracks as thy migrate in smelly lines from Ithaca to instruct us rubes. For chrissake


Didn't Christ wear sandals?

Your confused - scientists' are not responsible for "actionable recommendations" to communities. They use the scientific method to assess and report findings. They are not in the business of telling folks what to do. Thats where the democracy and the people's right to organize come in.


That's bull. What do you think people in FLZW and CCSC are trying to do? Force their opinions on others.

Top
#1339463 - 04/18/12 08:14 PM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: rj1]
Genevan
Senior Member


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 1641
Loc: Geneva
Its called democracy in action. If you don't like it leave the country.
_________________________
Statements by this member are personal opinion and are not to be construed as intentional slander.

Top
#1339468 - 04/18/12 08:59 PM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Genevan]
Ayuveda
Senior Member


Registered: 04/05/10
Posts: 6367
Loc: Imagine
Absolutely.
_________________________
Sometimes, tear gas can make you see better.
-graffiti in Athens


Top
#1339480 - 04/18/12 09:40 PM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Genevan]
rj1
Member


Registered: 02/18/12
Posts: 429
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: Genevan
Its called democracy in action. If you don't like it leave the country.


Obviously it's not working when their numbers are less than 100. You've got a vocal minority of less than 100 trying to force their views on the majority of residents. I don't call that democracy. Fortunately you haven't got your way on to many things.


Edited by rj1 (04/18/12 09:45 PM)

Top
#1339502 - 04/19/12 04:03 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Genevan]
Butt
Senior Member


Registered: 03/24/12
Posts: 883
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: Genevan
Its called democracy in action. If you don't like it leave the country.


Democracy ? Their ads for their meetings say "by invitation only"
" if you are against the clay mine you are welcome "

No one is allowed to speek at their meetings unless they know in advance what they are going to say ,word for word.

If you have any information that may weaken their case against the clay mine they throw you out of their meetings.

Landfill representatives were thrown out of their meetings and
were not allowed to explain anything.

They holler and heckle, jump up out of their seats at TOWN BOARD meetings if someone says something they don't like.

At a county board meeting one of them refused to answer questions after making a speech.

They LIE and make False Statements in every presentation they give at board meetings.

They make odor complaints in the middle of the night,on holidays.

They trespass on lanffill property.

They harass landfill employee's kids at school.

They dump trash in your yard in the middle of the night if you disagree with them,on anything.

This is not DEMOCRACY it is a LINCH MOB MENTALITY

Today is " PATRIOTS' DAY "



Edited by Butt Head (04/19/12 04:06 AM)

Top
#1339505 - 04/19/12 05:36 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Butt]
kyle585
Senior Member


Registered: 02/18/09
Posts: 7595
Loc: Somewhere out there
Originally Posted By: Butt Head
They harass landfill employee's kids at school.
One of you landfill supporters on here (I am not sure who now) said that these groups were all elderly people! These do not sound like the tactics of elderly people! Especially harassing kids at school!
_________________________
Cayugas: $1 million unpaid property taxes by April in SC.


Top
#1339506 - 04/19/12 05:39 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: rj1]
kyle585
Senior Member


Registered: 02/18/09
Posts: 7595
Loc: Somewhere out there
Originally Posted By: rj1
Originally Posted By: Genevan
Its called democracy in action. If you don't like it leave the country.
Obviously it's not working when their numbers are less than 100. You've got a vocal minority of less than 100 trying to force their views on the majority of residents. I don't call that democracy. Fortunately you haven't got your way on to many things.
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/33522.html

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.

Margaret Mead
US anthropologist & popularizer of anthropology (1901 - 1978)
_________________________
Cayugas: $1 million unpaid property taxes by April in SC.


Top
#1339508 - 04/19/12 06:16 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: kyle585]
rj1
Member


Registered: 02/18/12
Posts: 429
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: rj1
Originally Posted By: Genevan
Its called democracy in action. If you don't like it leave the country.
Obviously it's not working when their numbers are less than 100. You've got a vocal minority of less than 100 trying to force their views on the majority of residents. I don't call that democracy. Fortunately you haven't got your way on to many things.
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/33522.html

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.

Margaret Mead
US anthropologist & popularizer of anthropology (1901 - 1978)


Hasn't worked to well at SM has it.

Top
#1339510 - 04/19/12 06:17 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: rj1]
Genevan
Senior Member


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 1641
Loc: Geneva
OOOOOOOOOPSY...what have we here....bad frack air needs to be controlled....thought it was safe....NOT

By Neela Banerjee, Los Angeles Times

April 18, 2012, 5:48 p.m.

WASHINGTON — TheU.S. Environmental Protection Agencyissued regulations that for the first time will curtail air pollution from natural gas wells that use a controversial production technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.
_________________________
Statements by this member are personal opinion and are not to be construed as intentional slander.

Top
#1339513 - 04/19/12 06:27 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Genevan]
rj1
Member


Registered: 02/18/12
Posts: 429
Loc: ny
Originally Posted By: Genevan
OOOOOOOOOPSY...what have we here....bad frack air needs to be controlled....thought it was safe....NOT

By Neela Banerjee, Los Angeles Times

April 18, 2012, 5:48 p.m.

WASHINGTON — TheU.S. Environmental Protection Agencyissued regulations that for the first time will curtail air pollution from natural gas wells that use a controversial production technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.


Who said that? Nothing wrong with new regs. One less thing for you to cry and whine about.

Top
#1339519 - 04/19/12 07:46 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: rj1]
Butt
Senior Member


Registered: 03/24/12
Posts: 883
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: rj1
Originally Posted By: Genevan
OOOOOOOOOPSY...what have we here....bad frack air needs to be controlled....thought it was safe....NOT

By Neela Banerjee, Los Angeles Times

April 18, 2012, 5:48 p.m.

WASHINGTON — TheU.S. Environmental Protection Agencyissued regulations that for the first time will curtail air pollution from natural gas wells that use a controversial production technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.


Who said that? Nothing wrong with new regs. One less thing for you to cry and whine about.


It may be hard to believe,but it is called EVOLUTION. Many kinds of technology do not start out being perfect,and as time passes improvements are made. When new and better techiiques are discovered,the Governments in charge will impose new regulations.

Our society did not start out being Perfect and it is by no means perfect now.

Top
#1339521 - 04/19/12 07:52 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: kyle585]
Butt
Senior Member


Registered: 03/24/12
Posts: 883
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Butt Head
They harass landfill employee's kids at school.
One of you landfill supporters on here (I am not sure who now) said that these groups were all elderly people! These do not sound like the tactics of elderly people! Especially harassing kids at school!


It is all over town about a student being pulled from school because of being HARASSED

Top
#1339522 - 04/19/12 08:06 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: rj1]
mikey
Member


Registered: 03/03/12
Posts: 122
Loc: Rochester NY
rj1, butthead and all your other aliases...the support you claim for dirty industries serving corporations are as one sided and biased as those of your opponents. You speak out of both sides of your collective mouth. You too are vocal minority. Most people are simply indifferent until something happens to them or for them...no engagement of the brain.

And as for all the good science you portend to report; it's only good until there is an accident. Zealots on both sides of the issue cloud reality.

Top
#1339523 - 04/19/12 08:12 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: mikey]
Butt
Senior Member


Registered: 03/24/12
Posts: 883
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: mikey
rj1, butthead and all your other aliases...the support you claim for dirty industries serving corporations are as one sided and biased as those of your opponents. You speak out of both sides of your collective mouth. You too are vocal minority. Most people are simply indifferent until something happens to them or for them...no engagement of the brain.

And as for all the good science you portend to report; it's only good until there is an accident. Zealots on both sides of the issue cloud reality.


The only problem with your line of thinking is that,your WONDERFUL LIFE would come to a SCREACHING HALT without this supposed dirty industry !

Top
#1339526 - 04/19/12 08:22 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: Butt]
mikey
Member


Registered: 03/03/12
Posts: 122
Loc: Rochester NY
My life isn't so wonderful. I had to move away from the Finger Lakes for lack of income potential. I miss it.

As for the need of dirty industries..of course we need them! But just how dirty, how invasive at a location or at what cost to the environment. It won't be so cut and dry if something happens, and your claims that nothing will happen are as specious as those who claim something definitely will.

You take caution as a disregard for need of a service, and it is clear from the firing of the former head of the DEC that telling the truth about being unable to manage all that must be managed to protect the state was too telling for the corporate sponsors of political leaders.

Like I say, everyone involved in this kind of discussion is generally polarized to a point of view. Just don't forget you are polarized too. There seems to be sense to both points of view. The answers do not lie at either pole but in some measure of clear judgement, none of which seems to prevail.

Off to work...hope to read somemore discussion of this here this week.

Top
#1339529 - 04/19/12 08:33 AM Re: EPA takes fresh look at ’fracking [Re: mikey]
Butt
Senior Member


Registered: 03/24/12
Posts: 883
Loc: Geneva
Originally Posted By: mikey
My life isn't so wonderful. I had to move away from the Finger Lakes for lack of income potential. I miss it.

As for the need of dirty industries..of course we need them! But just how dirty, how invasive at a location or at what cost to the environment. It won't be so cut and dry if something happens, and your claims that nothing will happen are as specious as those who claim something definitely will.

You take caution as a disregard for need of a service, and it is clear from the firing of the former head of the DEC that telling the truth about being unable to manage all that must be managed to protect the state was too telling for the corporate sponsors of political leaders.

Like I say, everyone involved in this kind of discussion is generally polarized to a point of view. Just don't forget you are polarized too. There seems to be sense to both points of view. The answers do not lie at either pole but in some measure of clear judgement, none of which seems to prevail.

Off to work...hope to read somemore discussion of this here this week.


Again, you fail to realize that the entire PLANET is engaged in the activities you are so dead set against ! There is NO WAY you could support 7 billion people without modern technology and the polution it causes. Which means that until you either reduce the population or perfect the technology you will spend a lot of time and money cleaning up after yourself.

HOPE YOU WALKED TO WORK


Edited by Butt Head (04/19/12 08:36 AM)

Top
Page 35 of 71 « First<3334353637>Last »




Moderator:  FL1 Staff, FL1 Mod, FL1 Tek Deluxe, FL1 Mod 2, FL1 Office, FL1 Mod 3 
Hop to:

Generated in 0.117 seconds in which 0.078 seconds were spent on a total of 13 queries. Zlib compression enabled.