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#1328827 - 03/01/12 12:32 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
Ayuveda
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Complete misrepresentation of what I stated.

An 'aside' means just that. It does mean I agree with or dismiss claims made between the organization Rich Tallcot represents and the BIA/tribals on the legal front. My comment was on the nature of genocidal warfare waged against indigenous people by the Euro-invaders.



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#1328902 - 03/01/12 05:15 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
My comment was on the nature of genocidal warfare waged against indigenous people by the Euro-invaders.


did the tribes have 'clean' hands?
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#1328919 - 03/01/12 05:48 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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"Clean hands"?

You're up to those settler elbows in innocent blood.

Be concerned with your own genocidal history.
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#1328932 - 03/01/12 06:16 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
"Clean hands"?

You're up to those settler elbows in innocent blood.

Be concerned with your own genocidal history.
Clean hands
A maxim of equity to the effect that any person, individual or corporate, that wishes to ask or petition a court for judicial action, must be in a position free of fraud or other unfair conduct. "He who comes to equity must come with clean hands".

The only ones guilty of genocide in NY are the Iroquois.

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#1328935 - 03/01/12 06:18 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
"Clean hands"?

You're up to those settler elbows in innocent blood.

Be concerned with your own genocidal history.


Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Deflection... the oldest game in the book
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#1328936 - 03/01/12 06:21 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
"Clean hands"?

You're up to those settler elbows in innocent blood.

Be concerned with your own genocidal history.



and what date did you give the land back?

your hands are covered in 'blood'
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#1328939 - 03/01/12 06:29 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
"Clean hands"?

You're up to those settler elbows in innocent blood.

Be concerned with your own genocidal history.
Clean hands


The only ones guilty of genocide in NY are the Iroquois.


Of course. The target of your legalistic neo-Indian Wars are the Haudenosaunee. No sense in bringing up the big bloody picture right?
Excuse me Rich I'd forgotten.
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#1328943 - 03/01/12 06:34 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Be concerned with your own genocidal history.


and which tribes in NY ?
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#1328948 - 03/01/12 06:39 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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How about tribes of Euro-squatters?
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#1328951 - 03/01/12 06:42 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Be concerned with your own genocidal history.


and which tribes in NY ?


which tribes in NY?
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#1328953 - 03/01/12 06:45 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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Any but yours would be preferable.
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#1328955 - 03/01/12 06:47 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Any but yours would be preferable.


take that as none in NY
the tribes in NYS are US citizens
all laws and taxes apply
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#1328965 - 03/01/12 06:55 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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Of course they do. Euro-American worldview, firepower, religion and legal definitions conspired to insured it.

No Empire lasts forever settler.



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#1328967 - 03/01/12 07:01 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
No Empire lasts forever settler.


tell the tribes that
the US 'owes' them zero
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#1328970 - 03/01/12 07:03 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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Cash or land...hmmm. I'd suggest land.
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#1328971 - 03/01/12 07:04 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Cash or land...hmmm. I'd suggest land.


will they protect it?

when will you give your land back?
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#1328973 - 03/01/12 07:06 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Cash or land...hmmm. I'd suggest land.


but you said they would lose the land
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#1328975 - 03/01/12 07:09 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
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Why wouldn't they?

That thread-bare "when will you give your land back?" line again?
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#1328977 - 03/01/12 07:10 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: bluezone]
Ayuveda
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Ayuveda
Cash or land...hmmm. I'd suggest land.


but you said they would lose the land



where did I say that?
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#1328978 - 03/01/12 07:11 PM Re: Indian Settlement Coming? [Re: Ayuveda]
bluezone
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Originally Posted By: Ayuveda

where did I say that?
Originally Posted By: Ayuveda


No Empire lasts forever settler.
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