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#1138644 --- 01/27/10 08:56 AM Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights
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Willet Dairy in Cayuga County targeted by animal rights group
By Debra J. Groom / The Post-Standard
January 26, 2010, 8:20PM
Syracuse, NY -- A group called Mercy for Animals plans a news conference today to show what it calls inhumane treatment of cows and calves on the Willet Dairy in Genoa, Cayuga County. Willet Dairy is the largest farm in Cayuga County. Mercy for Animals said the farm has 7,000 cows.

Mercy for Animals is a Chicago-based animal rights organization that advocates a vegan diet. The organization said one of its members, who filmed the video, worked undercover at Willet Dairy. The group has posted the video on its Web site.

The group maintains farmworkers hit, kicked and used electric prods on cows; cows suffered from open wounds that were not treated; heifers had their tails cut off and their horns burned off without painkillers; cows were injected with hormones so they would produce more milk; and calves were dragged away from their mothers shortly after birth.

ABC “World News” with Diane Sawyer Tuesday night featured a three-minute piece on the treatment of animals on large farms and focused on the Mercy for Animals video the group said was filmed at Willet Dairy. In the piece, ABC’s chief investigative reporter Brian Ross interviewed a person with the National Milk Producers Federation, Nathan Runkle, of Mercy for Animals, and Lyn O’Dell, owner of Willet Dairy.

O’Dell was out of town on vacation Tuesday and couldn’t be reached for comment. In the ABC report, he said he does not tolerate the abuse of animals.

“Our animals are critically important to our well-being, so we work hard to treat them well, to treat them medically when they need to be treated, to ensure their lives are good while they’re here,” O’Dell said. Ross showed him scenes from the Mercy for Animals video, and O’Dell told Ross, “They picked out a few isolated incidents and they’re trying to portray them as something that is malicious on our part, that we don’t do a good job with our animals.”

O’Dell also told Ross he would not hesitate to fire any employee who mistreated one of the farm’s dairy cows.

Also Tuesday night, Diane Adsit, a Cayuga County assistant district attorney, issued the following statement concerning the district attorney’s investigation:

“The Cayuga County District Attorney’s office was presented with a complaint about alleged abuse and neglect of dairy cattle at Willet Dairy Farm.

“Many of the practices shown in edited videotapes presented by Mercy for Animals were of commonly accepted practices used to protect both animals and farmers on large dairy farms such as Willet Farm.

“While shocking to look at, these practices are not necessarily illegal. ...”

“The complaint has been turned over to the SPCA (Finger Lakes SPCA) in Cayuga County which is the agency in Cayuga County designated to investigate animal abuse and neglect complaints. and their investigation is not complete.

“If their investigation develops admissible evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that New York laws have been violated and the SPCA files charges, the Cayuga County District Attorney’s office will prosecute anyone so charged.”

Mercy For Animals states that as a result of its investigation, Assemblywoman Linda B. Rosenthal, D-Manhattan, has introduced a bill that would ban tail docking.

Dan Welch, animal science and farm business management educator for Cayuga County Cooperative Extension, said a majority of dairy farmers treat their cows well because well-cared-for animals stay alive longer and produce more milk.

Concerning some of the practices shown in the video, Welch said many are common practices on dairy farms. He said nearly every farm in New York state removes calves from their mothers to prevent infection and disease for the calves and the mothers after birth. He also said tail docking and removal of horns are done to keep workers and other cows safe.

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#1138652 --- 01/27/10 09:11 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Jelloshot]
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Where is Mike Nozzolio on this outragous abuse of animals.

Why doesn't he intoduce stiffer penalties for animal abuse...

Is he too busy carving up the State of NY that will go nowhere?
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#1138674 --- 01/27/10 10:16 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Z Genius Lusifer]
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This is how its done and has been done for some time. The horns get taken off to protect the other cows and the people that work with them. If done right it should only hurt for a little while. One cow with horns can really screw up another. The tails can be done with a rubberband type thing, cuts the blood off and it falls off later. Why? Ever got hit in the face with a wet cows tail? not a good time, also in a freestall setting tails are docked to prevent others from stepping on them. Then you have a real mess. If this guy is milking 7000 head he must be doing something right. These cows are his income. To abuse these cows would be like cutting your own throat. Calves are taken away from their mothers so that the farmer can control what and when they eat also their health. Not all mother cows are nice when it comes time to tend to a sick calf. After the mother has the calf its her peak milk production time. After a few days shes ready to go. Way too much milk for a calf in dairy cows. If you look into it Im sure this gut has an army of vets, AI breeders,nutrition specialists and a bunch of others Im not even listing. This is a 24/7 job 365 and yes even on Christmas

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#1138681 --- 01/27/10 10:26 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: redcowman]
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If done right it should only hurt for a little while.


WHO KNOWS? the COW?
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#1138690 --- 01/27/10 10:33 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: redcowman]
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I understand that dairy farmers work very hard. I certainly would not want their job. But I saw the ABC news report last night and wondered where in "upstate NY" this farm was. What I saw was disturbing. I am not a vegetarian. I eat meat etc. I'm not a looney PETA card carrying member, but I consider myself a person who has respect for all living creatures and I believe when using animals to make a living one should treat those animals with respect. What I saw was unnecessary.

At one point a cow was tied to a post in a very uncomfortable position. It's neck was extended back so far it looked like it might break if it twisted the wrong way. In that position it was easiest for it to just let it's body drop and lay down. Oh, BTW, it was tied up because it was going to get it's tail cut off. What does the guy do to the cow? He pulls it up by the tail once again arching it's neck. They showed him pulling out these huge cutters and getting ready to cut the tail off and then they cut the video so people at home didn't have to witness it. The commentator said it wasn't giving any medication for pain etc. Maybe there are not many nerves in the cows tail but why not give the cow some novacain or something?

I think we as a society need to really think about these things. We are over populating the earth, consuming way beyond reasonable means, therefore creating huge dairy farms, chicken farms, pig farms etc. The place was disgusting with the cows walking through their crap. Apparently they never even go outside. I have always known these places exist but it made me reconsider consuming dairy products. I can almost understand why people do become vegans.


Edited by Animal Lover (01/27/10 10:34 AM)

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#1138705 --- 01/27/10 11:11 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Animal Lover]
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Animal Lover, the problem is, I could take a camera to the annual dog show at Sampson and make a video that would have you sick to your stomach. It is all in the edit.

Having worked on a dairy farm as a kid, it was a LOT of work and the animals were treated quite well, but I had a lot of fun. (And, yes, the cows had a very large pasture that they wandered all day long.)

More importantly, why is some politician from Manhattan (who probably wouldn't know a cow if it ran over her) introducing legislation regarding farm animals? (Answer: publicity)
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#1138707 --- 01/27/10 11:13 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Animal Lover]
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I did not get a chance to watch the show sorry to say. I would NOT cut a cows tail off that way. Thats just wrong. When raising dairy calves I used the rubberband and it was done when very young. And LUSI, I do not burn off my cows horns. If you guys get a chance I think its the end of next month there is a farm show in Syracuse at the fairgrounds. You should see the new things that they come out with. A happy cow produces more milk. From the sounds of it theres a hired hand that needs to find a different job, real quick. Im not super farmer or anything but I do have a wall full of banners, ribbons and trophies from our cows. I have learned one thing over the years. Once a cow or bull has been abused you will never get back the respect, they get nuts. We have cows out here that you cant move they just stand there and if you go out there with a brush they come running and you get knocked around like a pinball and just because your done brushing them does not mean that they are done getting brushed. They even make waterbed for dairy cows now. Really!!!

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#1138715 --- 01/27/10 11:35 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: redcowman]
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Hey, I am sitting here eating a hamburger reading this. I just want more humane treatment for these animals before they are harvested.
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#1138723 --- 01/27/10 11:45 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Greymane]
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Originally Posted By: Greymane
Having worked on a dairy farm as a kid, it was a LOT of work and the animals were treated quite well, but I had a lot of fun. (And, yes, the cows had a very large pasture that they wandered all day long.)
I suspect that was a lot of years when you were a kid? The large farms are a whole different than when you were a kid. That is the problem that no one sees until it hits the fan in a report like this.
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#1138725 --- 01/27/10 11:46 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Greymane]
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Originally Posted By: Greymane
More importantly, why is some politician from Manhattan (who probably wouldn't know a cow if it ran over her) introducing legislation regarding farm animals? (Answer: publicity)
Answer: because all the local politicans are afraid of losing votes if they sponsored such legislation.
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#1138726 --- 01/27/10 11:48 AM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: kyle585]
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Kudo's to Mercy for Animals.

Thanks to the person who gave me the Farm's phone number.


I called to try to ask questions and they hung up on me.
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#1138733 --- 01/27/10 12:02 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Greymane]
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Originally Posted By: Greymane
Having worked on a dairy farm as a kid, it was a LOT of work and the animals were treated quite well, but I had a lot of fun. (And, yes, the cows had a very large pasture that they wandered all day long.)

How big a pasture do you need for 60,000 cows?

http://www.mythinglinks.org/FactoryFarms_WalmartManureDoc.html

Dairy CAFO proposal by den Dulk in Ionia, MI --

The Wal-Marts of Manure?

Timothy C. den Dulk owns and manages dairy farms in California, New Mexico, Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana that milk approximately 30,000 cows. He also raises dairy heifers in Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska and South Dakota which, when combined with his milking cows, total to a herd size of almost 60,000 cows. Additionally, Mr. den Dulk farms row crops on approximately 20,000 acres in the above mentioned states as well as grapes, walnuts, peaches and almonds in California.
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#1138736 --- 01/27/10 12:13 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: kyle585]
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Considering it is spread over 10 states, I imagine they have quite a bit of pasture.

It was a long time ago, but I see the owners everytime I go home (neighbors to our farm).
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#1138738 --- 01/27/10 12:13 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: kyle585]
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If your lucky 1cow to 2 acres. Midwest is anywheres from 1 to 3 to 1 to 18 acres depending on the soil and how they take care of it. Ive worked on large dairy farms and hauled alot of those pigs south of Waterloo. Bottom line is there is no money in dead or injured animals. It may not be right that it comes down to money but, it does.

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#1138750 --- 01/27/10 01:12 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Greymane]
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Originally Posted By: Greymane
More importantly, why is some politician from Manhattan (who probably wouldn't know a cow if it ran over her) introducing legislation regarding farm animals? (Answer: publicity)


Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal has a history of animal rights support.

One doesn't have to grow up with a lawn to love ALL animals.

Oh, and she went to U of R. Does living upstate, even briefly, qualify her to care about farm animals? Or should she stick to apartment-sized animals?

http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=067&sh=bio
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#1138753 --- 01/27/10 01:18 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Greymane]
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Originally Posted By: Greymane
Considering it is spread over 10 states, I imagine they have quite a bit of pasture.

It was a long time ago, but I see the owners everytime I go home (neighbors to our farm).

Yes that is the way it was a long time ago! Now today none of those 60,000 cows will ever see a pasture!

http://www.appvoices.org/index.php?/site...ncerns/issue/25


For 33 years, eight months, and 20 days, Vance Gentry of Shady Valley in Johnson County, Tennessee milked cows at four in the morning and four in the evening. He still wakes up before his alarm even though he sold his herd two years ago, unable to make a living.

Johnson County lies tucked in the Appalachian Mountains in the far northeast corner of Tennessee. It is a county rich in dairy farming, a tradition however that’s been fading as small dairies become unsustainable for local farmers. Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFO) are the new, large dairies that are surfacing all over the nation in rural communities.

Over the past 20 years the number of dairies in Tennessee has dropped from 3,695 to 703. Gentry remembers 11 Grade A dairies in Johnson County alone. Now only one is left. The pressure of high production costs and low milk prices forced Gentry to join the scores of other dairymen that gave up their business after years of struggling to make ends meet. “I was getting the same price for milk I was getting 25 years ago, while the cost of producing milk continued to increase,” he said.

Dairymen buy their equipment, feed, water, etc. at retail prices but sell their milk at mandated wholesale prices leaving little room for earnings. “You’ve got to make a profit and there’s not a lot of incentives to keep you going,” Gentry said. “When it comes down to it, you have to have a bigger operation to maintain a profit.” And that’s exactly what is being built a few miles up the road near the town of Mountain City.

The controversy surrounding a new 690-cow CAFO has polarized the Mountain City community, driving families and churches apart as its residents grapple with the economic and environmental impact this new dairy will have on their town. As the first CAFO in the county, High Mountain Holsteins, in partnership with Maymead Inc, is set to begin milking in June leaving behind a trail of battles. Part of what has stirred opposition to the CAFO is the large number of cows that are kept and fed in a confined area with little access to sunlight, fresh air, and movement. The over 20,000 CAFOs in the U.S. produce 575 million pounds of manure a year, which is stored in lagoons and sprayed on surrounding property. Since 2003, the EPA has set mandatory regulations on CAFOs with additional regulation set by each state.
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#1138762 --- 01/27/10 01:36 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: kyle585]
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apartment-sized animals......hmmm great marketing line....


SALE - This week ONLY all apartment-sized animals........
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#1138767 --- 01/27/10 01:46 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Greymane]
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Originally Posted By: Greymane
Animal Lover, the problem is, I could take a camera to the annual dog show at Sampson and make a video that would have you sick to your stomach. It is all in the edit.

Having worked on a dairy farm as a kid, it was a LOT of work and the animals were treated quite well, but I had a lot of fun. (And, yes, the cows had a very large pasture that they wandered all day long.)

More importantly, why is some politician from Manhattan (who probably wouldn't know a cow if it ran over her) introducing legislation regarding farm animals? (Answer: publicity)


Grey, as others have pointed out you are talking about when you were a kid and the cows went to pasture. This article states:

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Willet Dairy is the largest farm in Cayuga County. Mercy for Animals said the farm has 7,000 cows.


If I'm not mistaken, those 7,000 cows LIVE in barns and NEVER go to pasture. At least that is the way it is at many of these large factory farms. And while they are in those barns they are prodded, tails cut off, slapped and kicked. I saw the video and there was a smaller cow sniffing around being curious and she was slapped as hard as the farmhand could hit her on her head. I didn't see any reason for the cow to be hit on the head the way it was.

And I have been to Sampson dog show many times and I've never seen a dog slapped, kicked or a dog's tail cut off. I know that some breeds have their tails docked but they do it at a very young age. Practices of breeders, such as tail docking, ear docking and cutting their nails very short are things I don't agree with but the treatment of most show dogs could never compare to the way cows are treated in this factory farm. No comparison whatsoever.

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#1138776 --- 01/27/10 02:17 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Animal Lover]
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What goes on at the Sampson Dog Show that is abusive. Please back your statement up.
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#1138784 --- 01/27/10 02:29 PM Re: Dairy Farm in Cayuga targeted by animal rights [Re: Z Genius Lusifer]
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Originally Posted By: Z Genius Lusifer
Where is Mike Nozzolio on this outragous abuse of animals.

Why doesn't he intoduce stiffer penalties for animal abuse...
He is afraid he would lose farmers votes.
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