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#1099884 - 11/06/09 12:06 AM
News and this past week
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MissLadybugg
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Registered: 10/18/09
Posts: 32
Loc: seneca falls ny
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How awful the guy who killed all those ladies ect in cleveland. THEN the mass murder in TX!!and may turn out to be a terrorist! What a world.What a week. YANKEES #1 ...AT LEAST.THEY WERE FABULOUS.
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#1100167 - 11/06/09 12:16 PM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: Yetta Nother]
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angela
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Registered: 01/28/04
Posts: 1087
Loc: usa
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a very sad world indeed.people shooting each other-and it will get worst instead of better.. 
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#1100263 - 11/06/09 05:16 PM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: the Federalist]
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Gio
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Registered: 08/01/03
Posts: 16249
Loc: Cleveland
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No terrorist, just a person who feared deployment, and was being ridiculed for being a muslim. Pull your head out of the PC sand. Someone who worked with him at Ft. Hood said he was a harsh critic of U.S. foreign policy who said Muslims had a right to stand up and fight against the aggressor in Iraq and Afghanistan — i.e., us. He allegedly posted on a message board that he supported suicide bombers as heroes. Now, the AP is reporting that he shouted 'Allahu Akbar' during the attack. What more do you need? A picture of him with his arm around Bin Laden?
What about the two soldiers that were reported to have been arrested with him?
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#1100310 - 11/06/09 07:05 PM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: Gio]
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freespeech
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Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 48
Loc: ny
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Apparently those two were released after they were interrogated. The shooter was supposed to be deployed but couldnt see himself killing fellow Muslims. Why would the government even trust someone with deep roots such as his fighting side by side with other American soldiers? I am baffled.
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#1100554 - 11/07/09 09:47 AM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: the Federalist]
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Al Kida
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Registered: 11/14/06
Posts: 2908
Loc: I would rather not say
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No terrorist, just a person who feared deployment, and was being ridiculed for being a muslim. Pull your head out of the PC sand. Someone who worked with him at Ft. Hood said he was a harsh critic of U.S. foreign policy who said Muslims had a right to stand up and fight against the aggressor in Iraq and Afghanistan — i.e., us. He allegedly posted on a message board that he supported suicide bombers as heroes. Now, the AP is reporting that he shouted 'Allahu Akbar' during the attack. What more do you need? A picture of him with his arm around Bin Laden?
Wow!!!
Yell Allahu Akbar before start shooting and right away peoples think you are terrorist!!!
Is this what it has come too!!!
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#1100585 - 11/07/09 11:01 AM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: Al Kida]
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wickedwhite
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Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 38
Loc: waterloo
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yes yell anything thats not in english while holding a gun and i'll assume u are a terrorist
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#1100586 - 11/07/09 11:02 AM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: VM Smith]
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freespeech
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Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 48
Loc: ny
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VM, I am not talking about this particular guy, but any Muslim soldiers who are sent to fight against their roots in a Muslim country. I have two nephews in Iraq and I hope they dont have a deeply devout Muslim soldier watching their back. Some, not all, can be torn between religion and patriotism. Some, not all! I am not slamming anyones religious freedoms, but sending some one in to fight against their own doesnt seem like such a good idea to me. That is my own opinion of course.
Edited by freespeech (11/07/09 11:02 AM)
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#1100634 - 11/07/09 02:02 PM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: Senecamom]
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Zorn
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 670
Loc: ny
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Because there is a definition of terrorism. Shooting people doesn't automatically constitute terrorism. The US government has an official definition, why don't you look it up and see if this event fits.
Why would you say he is a terrorist? Is anyone who goes on a killing spree a terrorist?
edit: also at people saying how sad the world is... there is a lot of evidence that the rich/poor income gap is the main cause of the many of the US' problems. Many nations who are poorer than we are have much happier people, less crime, etc than we do - but they have a small gap between the rich and the poor. Crime is directly correlated to the income gap. Reduce the income gap and crime goes down. it explains a lot in my opinion.
Edited by Zorn (11/07/09 02:08 PM)
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#1100637 - 11/07/09 02:10 PM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: Senecamom]
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Zorn
Senior Member
Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 670
Loc: ny
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i dont know much about the story because i really dont watch tv, but the point is there is a definition of terrorism. Just becuase a muslim killed people in the US does not mean it was terrorism.
Also remember how many people were killed in the name of Christianity over the last 2000 years before you go after Islam too hard...
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#1100642 - 11/07/09 02:16 PM
Re: News and this past week
[Re: Zorn]
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Senecamom
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 5632
Loc: Ridin' shotgun in a sleigh.......
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Nothing before or since has come close to the terror attacks of 9/11 in terms of lives lost, scope, and impact. And we know that al Qaeda led and inspired operatives still seek to strike our homeland—including with weapons of mass destruction. Which is why globally-fueled terrorism continues to occupy much of our time and attention these days.
And yet, as we were reminded by shootings in Kansas, Arkansas, and the nation’s capital over just 11 days this spring, the threat of domestic terror—Americans attacking Americans based on U.S.-based extremist ideologies—is alive and well.
Today’s domestic terror threats run the gamut, from hate-filled white supremacists…to highly destructive eco-terrorists…to violence-prone anti-government extremists…to radical separatist groups.
One particularly insidious concern that touches all forms of domestic extremism is the lone offender—a single individual driven to hateful attacks based on a particular set of beliefs without a larger group’s knowledge or support.
In some cases, these lone offenders may have tried to join a group but were kicked out for being too radical or simply left the group because they felt it wasn’t extreme or violent enough. We believe most domestic attacks are carried out by lone offenders to promote their own grievances and agendas.
The FBI is the lead domestic terrorism agency in the U.S., working to identify and prevent domestic terrorism acts before they occur and investigate them when they do take place. We’re also the lead federal agency in responding to a domestic terrorism crisis situation, functioning as the on-scene manager for the U.S. government.
During our investigations, we get a great deal of investigative support from our state, local, and federal partners. An example of this collaboration is the recent Nevada Joint Terrorism Task Force case that resulted in the arrest of four members of an anti-government group on federal money laundering, tax evasion, and weapons charges.
Sometimes, cases are prosecuted at the local level because the crime isn’t a violation of federal law. In those instances, we support our partners any way we can—sharing intelligence, offering forensic assistance, conducting behavioral analysis, etc.
As with all forms of extremism, preventing homegrown attacks before they are hatched is our overriding goal.
It’s an especially tall order given the civil liberties we all enjoy as American citizens, including the right to free speech.
Hate and anger are not crimes; neither are hard-line and poisonous ideologies. It’s only when actions by groups or individuals cross the line into threats, the actual use of force or violence, or other law-breaking activities that we can investigate. That goes for lone offenders, whose high degrees of autonomy make them difficult to stop before they strike.
As a result, we’re not shy about applying our full suite of anti-terror tools and capabilities to threats of homegrown terrorism. That includes our time-tested investigative techniques such as the use of surveillance and informants as well as the new intelligence skills and information-sharing channels we’ve cultivated since 9/11.
http://www.fbi.gov/hq.htm
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