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#1044486 --- 06/28/09 09:59 AM Re: Legislators mount land-trust opposition [Re: BJ Radford]
Rich_Tallcot Offline
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Originally Posted By: BJ Radford
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: BJ Radford

Refer to my last post - this one is only missing the smiley face.
Did they stay in NY or not?

How about that Sullivan question?
If you are asking if the Cayugas stayed in NY after the Sullivan campaign, the answer is yes.
You are correct. There were Cayuga here prior to and following the Sullivan expedition.

Just sticking with the facts.

1775 to 1783 _ American Revolution. The Cayuga sided with the British

1784 _ Grand River Reserve, Brantford, Ontario, Canada was established for the Iroquois tribes as appreciation by Great Britain to their allies. 1,843 Iroquois were settled there by 1785, including 381 Cayuga. In 2001 the population was 21,474.

1789 _ ALL Cayuga territory was sold to NYS by a dissident faction of Cayuga near Buffalo, which extinguished aboriginal title. Of the CEEDED territory, 64,014 acres of the state land was a retrocession, NOT a set aside, to the Cayuga tribe for their use.
1790 _ The State made an identical treaty with a dissident faction of stragglers remaining at Cayuga Lake.

1790 _ TIA passed mandating federal approval of tribal transactions

1792 _ 1790 TIA expired

1793 _ TIA passed with surrounded by settlements exception excluding states. Exception maintained in all successive Trade and Intercourse Acts through 1834 excluding areas surrounded by settlements and dealt with interstate sales, not intrastate sales. In 1834 the exception was removed. 25 USC 177 was a rewrite of the 1834 version.

1794 _ Treaty of Canandaigua recognized the 1789 Cayuga treaty with New York State.

1795 _ The Cayuga dissident faction sold most of their use rights to the state lands.

1799 _ Sullivan Expedition in retaliation of Iroquois terrorist activities and the Wyoming and Cherry Valley Massacres. Two Cayuga members were killed. Yes, the few that had separated from the tribe remained.

1807 _ The Cayuga dissident faction sold the remaining use rights to the state lands.

1812 _ The Cayuga sided with the British again in the War of 1812.

1926 _ The 1926 International Tribunal included all factions of the Cayuga, ruled the 1789, 1790, 1795 and 1807 treaties to be all one contract and ordered the U.S. to pay the real Cayuga tribe in Canada $100,000, which Congress approved and paid.


Edited by Rich_Tallcot (06/28/09 10:04 AM)

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#1044912 --- 06/29/09 08:49 AM Re: Legislators mount land-trust opposition [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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And yet they want more?
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#1045016 --- 06/29/09 02:34 PM Re: Legislators mount land-trust opposition [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: Santa_Cruzer
Originally Posted By: kyle585
As grinch says the Indians are paying them off.

"Indians are paying them off."

Then, of course you've ALREADY notified the attorney generals office of YOUR knowledge that New York State officials are accepting pay-offs from Native Nation(s)? Is that correct Kyle?

What was their response?
The Attorney General's response was that it is his job to defend and protect the Governor.


Did Governor Cuomo not get NY into this web with the illegal compact with the Oneidas? And his son is now the AG.
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#1045618 --- 06/30/09 03:57 PM Schumer: Revise the Land Trust Report [Re: bluezone]
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Schumer wants Cayuga land trust review redone

AUBURN, N.Y. -- U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer wants federal officials to do another study on how the local economy would be affected if 129 acres of upstate New York land are put into trust for the Cayuga Indian Nation.

Schumer is scheduled to join business leaders and local elected leaders Tuesday at a news conference to criticize the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs' preliminary assessment, which found there would be little or no negative impact.

Schumer says the BIA isn't taking into consideration the full economic toll of putting the land into trust, where it is exempt from state and local laws and taxes.

The land is in Cayuga and Seneca counties about 50 miles west of Syracuse. It includes two convenience store-gas stations operated by the Cayugas.

Associated Press, 06.30.09, 03:48 PM EDT

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#1045790 --- 07/01/09 06:32 AM Re: Legislators mount land-trust opposition [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: pixie
I can see the casinos in Siberia now.
Actually, no you can not. Russia had about 1,200 casinos and they caused so much criminal activity, political bribes and social decay that Russia outlawed them and shut them all down.

There are about 1,800 casinos in the U.S.


The US should remove the tribes casino shopping.
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#1047105 --- 07/05/09 04:20 PM Re: Schumer: Revise the Land Trust Report [Re: newsman38]
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Never Forget...........


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