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#1001372 - 03/30/09 12:47 PM Stupid Fayette officials
Jelloshot
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WHAT IN THE HELL is the matter with the moronic leaders in Fayette?? Good lord, I thougth my town was dysfunctional!

Seneca Co. SPCA at risk due to local zoning laws
Press Release
3/30/09

Since 2003, the Seneca County SPCA has rescued and sheltered hundreds of dogs, providing them safe homes, and even assisting county officials and local law enforcement investigating animal cruelty cases.

Now, however, the organization’s mission-and the dogs it shelters-may be at risk from town and county zoning officials.

SPCA President Jenny McWhorter has been operating a non-profit dog rescue organization on property she shares with her partner Stephen Webb for nearly six years. Until recently, local zoning officials told her the operation was in compliance with local zoning laws.

But on March 12, they were served with a violation notice by the Seneca County Building Department. That notice alleged that the SPCA was in violation of the Town of Fayette Zoning Code. The building department claims that the not-for-profit shelter is a “commercial kennel” under the new zoning code.

That zoning code was passed last fall. Because McWhorter had operated the shelter for years before that, she believes that the SPCA is grandfathered in (and, therefore, legal) under New York State law.

And, until recently, she thought that local officials agreed.

But in November, 2008, the Chair of the Fayette Planning Board, Ros Parks, told McWhorter that the shelter was in violation of both the new and old zoning law. He also told her that his board would most likely deny the SPCA a permit or variance if they requested one.

That surprised McWhorter. Parks had told her in 2003 that she didn’t need any town permits for the shelter.

“Ros stated to me that we did not need a kennel permit. All that was available was a purebred kennel permit and we both agreed we did not fit those criteria as many of our rescue dogs were mixed breeds,” McWhorter said. “Ros told me that as long as there were no complaints we were fine doing what we were doing here.”

In 2005, the group was told that the town wanted dogs kept at the shelter for more than thirty days to be licensed. McWhorter said she complied.

Other than that request, she heard nothing from the planning board until 2008, shortly after the group was formally designated by New York State as the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty for Animals (SPCA) for Seneca County.

“We have not had any complaints from our neighbors or incidents with our dogs since 2003 to the present time,” McWhorter said. “We take extreme measures to assure we do not bother anyone and keep the dogs waste picked up and disposed of properly daily, every day.”

McWhorter said that the SPCA has contacted former Seneca County Attorney Steven Getman, who has agreed to assist the shelter on a pro bono basis. Getman hopes to show local officials that the SPCA is operating legally.

If zoning officials force the SPCA to move, McWhorter said they will do what they can to comply with the law. However, relocating so would mean a big financial hit for the shelter and compromise its mission.

“It will be costly for us to try at this time to open a separate shelter for the animals off of our property,” McWhorter said. “We operate the non-profit corporation solely on donations and receive no public money.”

“By operating here we can keep our overhead low and continue to provide animal protective services until we become more established and self-supporting.”

“Making the shelter move now could endanger both the SPCA’s goals and the animals it serves.”

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#1001378 - 03/30/09 12:59 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Jelloshot]
flbuldog
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Its been very interesting and educational, all this nonsense.

Its also been very stressful and I will be happy when its over.

I hope the town can move on sometime soon and do something about the trailer eyesores on East Lake Road by the railroad bridge...and other worthy candidates for their attention that need some code enforcement.


Edited by flbuldog (03/30/09 01:23 PM)
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#1001379 - 03/30/09 01:00 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Jelloshot]
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Would you expect anything less from our dysfunctional towns and county government? What a cultural backwash.
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#1001384 - 03/30/09 01:15 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Big Twin]
flbuldog
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I "used to" expect and think better of all the county/town bureaucracy until I started really getting involved.

What a letdown to see it in action.
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#1001402 - 03/30/09 01:47 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: flbuldog]
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This would be a terrible thing for the county. Can anyone give some insight into what the town may be thinking for a reason to not give a variance? I wish Mr. Getman luck in his task ahead.
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#1001421 - 03/30/09 02:31 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Jelloshot]
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Stupid is right! For the first time ever,Seneca County has an SPCA, moving into the modern world. I am very proud of that fact. The fact that there is no county funding supporting it is a travesty.
They should be grandfathered in as others have been. Fayette
should be very ashamed of themselves!
The SPCA is doing a wonderful job with what little they have. Working for animals is a consuming and mostly thankless job. I, for 1, thank you for being there SPCA.

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#1001445 - 03/30/09 03:35 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: iriss]
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Where is the SCPA kennel located? I thought it was at the Beverly shelter on E. River Street in the Village of Waterloo? Please correct me if I am wrong.
Where ever it is, I think the politicians should stop their cranial-rectal inversion and fix the law to make it practical.
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#1001482 - 03/30/09 06:21 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Grey Rider]
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Very disappointing behavior indeed on behalf of Fayette. A big thank you to Steve Getman for his expertise, us common folk can't quite fathom how these town and county officials work ;\) . Especially when things seem to be arbitrarily enforced. It's very disappointing to have the officials of the town and county say one thing to your face, and then a whole different thing in their meetings, especially when their meetings are taped.
The SPCA is located on MacDougall Rd, Beverly's is on River road, the two are separate entities.
As for a variance, my understanding is since there was no old code, and the SPCA is not a commercial kennel, a variance is not needed. They should be grandfathered in, especially since the track record of neighbor complaints has been nil.
Maybe some other nice town will step up and offer the SPCA some support.
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#1001495 - 03/30/09 07:17 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: angelaboveme]

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I know that part of the village of Waterloo is in the Town of Fayette. Is Beverly Shelter in Waterloo or Fayette?
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#1001497 - 03/30/09 07:35 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: ]
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They are in both towns Festus, is my understanding.

I'm guessing that BAS has enough land, 25 plus acres, so are not in jeopardy from Fayette's new land use ordinances that determine how many animals you can have on one property.
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#1001498 - 03/30/09 07:38 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Festus!
I know that part of the village of Waterloo is in the Town of Fayette. Is Beverly Shelter in Waterloo or Fayette?


The answer is BOTH.

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#1001501 - 03/30/09 08:02 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Grey Rider]
flbuldog
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Originally Posted By: Grey Rider
Where is the SCPA kennel located? I thought it was at the Beverly shelter on E. River Street in the Village of Waterloo? Please correct me if I am wrong.
Where ever it is, I think the politicians should stop their cranial-rectal inversion and fix the law to make it practical.


According to a recent statement made by a town official in a public committee meeting who has never been here:

"The SPCA is in that dump that used to be the Old MacDougall Post Office and I would not give them any county funding" .

I would have not believed it if I didn't hear it with my own ears.

I happened to be sitting behind the person who said it.

I'd like to think it would not have been said that way if he knew I was present but probably would not have mattered.

Its not easy to prepare for Better Homes and Gardens when every dollar that comes in goes back into the animal care, supplies and vet bills.





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#1001508 - 03/30/09 08:13 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: flbuldog]
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Bet he is lucky that he didn't get slapped in the back of the head with that remark. I would have been tempted to tap him on the shoulder and introduce myself.
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#1001509 - 03/30/09 08:15 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: flbuldog]

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Originally Posted By: flbuldog
They are in both towns Festus, is my understanding.

I'm guessing that BAS has enough land, 25 plus acres, so are not in jeopardy from Fayette's new land use ordinances that determine how many animals you can have on one property.


Thanks, that's what I was worried about. I know where the Fayette line is on Washington Street, but I wasn't sure about the area where BAS is located.

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#1001511 - 03/30/09 08:21 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: SilverFox]
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Originally Posted By: SilverFox
Bet he is lucky that he didn't get slapped in the back of the head with that remark. I would have been tempted to tap him on the shoulder and introduce myself.



It would have been more than a "tap" if I was able to move \:\/
would have needed bail money.

I was froze in shock. Didn't know whether to cry or laugh.

Someone leaned over and informed him I was sitting behind him.
The red coloring creeping up his neck and head was a small pleasure though I'm sure he was not as uncomfortable as I was.
Very unpleasant moment. I would rather light my hair on fire than ever take a penny of county money after all the shenanigans.


Edited by flbuldog (03/30/09 08:21 PM)
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#1001529 - 03/30/09 09:07 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: flbuldog]
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#1001531 - 03/30/09 09:10 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: flbuldog]
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What is wrong with people, its for the animals that people have 'tossed' away or can't control...
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#1001534 - 03/30/09 09:15 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Jelloshot]
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"The building department claims that the not-for-profit shelter is a “commercial kennel” under the new zoning code".

Doesn't that imply the "sale" of an item for profit?

"she heard nothing from the planning board until 2008, shortly after the group was formally designated by New York State as the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty for Animals (SPCA) for Seneca County".

So it's back to money. Now they're official, their hands are out. There is no money in common sense.

I guess there isn't anybody or anything else in Seneca County that deserves attention right now.
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#1001535 - 03/30/09 09:17 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: reilley]
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This is very sad, I hope it all works out for the SPCA, Mr Getman will do his best, I am sure.
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#1001536 - 03/30/09 09:20 PM Re: Stupid Fayette officials [Re: Buddy]
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Buddy, I was wondering where you've been lately. Glad you're back around, you make me laugh.
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