Casella for DA

Posted by: gassy one

Casella for DA - 06/18/17 09:02 PM

Met Todd a couple of days ago. Seems like a nice guy with a lot of experience. Time to bring in a outsider instead of running the same old people again & again! Somebody with integrity instead of being in the old boys club or hanging out at the bars around town!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 06/18/17 10:26 PM

An "outsider" he is. Has no history in Yates County that I am aware of. I would hardly call Ms. Gardner a member of the "old boys club".
I think some members of the "old boys club" are still mad at her for winning the D.A. post from their chosen one. If I were a betting man I would say some of them are promoting Casella as a carpetbagger because they still can't let it go.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 06/19/17 06:00 AM

Just what we need a honest person with a family and a excellent court record, someone without baggage that will make the citizens of Yates County proud when he becomes our next District Attorney.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 06/19/17 07:22 AM

I guess I called that right, helpme, one of Cook's biggest anti-Conlon and anti-Gardner fans has jumped right in with his support for someone from another county that he does not know. There is little doubt in my mind that Casella has been recruited to run by some vindictive people.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 06/19/17 08:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I guess I called that right, helpme, one of Cook's biggest anti-Conlon and anti-Gardner fans has jumped right in with his support for someone from another county that he does not know. There is little doubt in my mind that Casella has been recruited to run by some vindictive people.
That's exactly what YC needs Gene! A outsider who has no ties to the community & no favors to pay back! Hopefully a new sheriff will be next on the agenda!
Posted by: Sam the Sham

Re: Casella for DA - 06/19/17 10:09 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
That's exactly what YC needs Gene! A outsider who has no ties to the community & no favors to pay back!


Anyone who gets nominated by a major political party to run for countywide office probably has at least some ties to the community and definitely some favors to pay back. It's naive to think otherwise.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 06/19/17 08:35 PM

Sam, Yates is having a primary for the District attorney position. The current D.A. has been there one term. Yates is overwhelming a republican county. Ms. Gardner, after losing the republican primary by a couple hundred votes managed to win the post running as an independent, knocking the incumbent out four years ago. It is the first time in Yates County history a nominated, endorsed Republican lost a county wide election.
There are some out there who are still unhappy with that and I believe have recruited Mr. Casella, a non Yates resident to run against her. Mr. Casella is currently an ADA in Steuben County. Ms. Gardner owes no one on the Republican committee any favors for sure!!
Posted by: leeoh

Re: Casella for DA - 07/09/17 07:52 PM

He's just what Yates County needs a honest hardworking smart family man who will help the Police protect the public from bad people, maybe that's why all the County's law agencies support him. Gardner had her chance to prove herself but failed big time, one of the many cases that Gardner lost was a accused child molester who went free because she violated his rights. Yates county needs a new honest DA and Matt is that person.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 07/13/17 06:33 AM

Who's matt? I thought his name is Todd
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/13/17 08:01 AM

"You can call me Ray, you can call me Jay, you can call me Johnson any ole day" smile
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 07/13/17 04:36 PM

Matt is his nickname it's short for Matlock the lawyer on television who has never lost a case, Val's nickname is Marcia short for Marcia Clark the prosecutor who's known for losing the OJ trial.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/14/17 07:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
An "outsider" he is. Has no history in Yates County that I am aware of. I would hardly call Ms. Gardner a member of the "old boys club".
I think some members of the "old boys club" are still mad at her for winning the D.A. post from their chosen one. If I were a betting man I would say some of them are promoting Casella as a carpetbagger because they still can't let it go.




I guess I called that right, saw a relative of our current county judge placing a Casella sign on Seneca st.yesterday. It is no mystery some people can't let it go and are seeking revenge by bringing in a resident from another county to run against Ms. Gardner.
Posted by: yipes

Re: Casella for DA - 07/14/17 11:19 AM

So MG I am confused, are you upset that there is someone running from another County that possibly wouldn't have as many personal conflicts or that someone would have the audacity to back another candidate other than the one you seem to have such faith in?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/14/17 04:08 PM

Yipes, correct, you are confused. I am not upset, just pointing out that a relative of our county judge is an active participant in supporting Casella who has no ties or residency to Yates County past or present.

It shows that some of the established republicans still have an axe to grind with Ms.Gardner for defeating their candidate four years ago.

IMHO a prosecutors job is to see that justice is served for all of Yates County residents. Ms. Gardner has saved the county hundreds of thousands of dollars since she took over as District Attorney by keeping her campaign promise of working with less staff. If you remember the county legislature didn't want to reduce staff because the former D.A. stated he needed the extra help. (apparently so he could delegate most of the work to others.)

Once Ms. Gardner was elected the legislature then agreed to eliminate a full time ADA position saving county taxpayers mucho dollars.

Her DWI conviction rate is second in New York State and she has a hundred per cent conviction rate on felony drug arrests.
There is no reason to bring a carpet bagger into Yates County.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 07/14/17 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Yipes, correct, you are confused. I am not upset, just pointing out that a relative of our county judge is an active participant in supporting Casella who has no ties or residency to Yates County past or present.

It shows that some of the established republicans still have an axe to grind with Ms.Gardner for defeating their candidate four years ago.

IMHO a prosecutors job is to see that justice is served for all of Yates County residents. Ms. Gardner has saved the county hundreds of thousands of dollars since she took over as District Attorney by keeping her campaign promise of working with less staff. If you remember the county legislature didn't want to reduce staff because the former D.A. stated he needed the extra help. (apparently so he could delegate most of the work to others.)

Once Ms. Gardner was elected the legislature then agreed to eliminate a full time ADA position saving county taxpayers mucho dollars.

Her DWI conviction rate is second in New York State and she has a hundred per cent conviction rate on felony drug arrests.
There is no reason to bring a carpet bagger into Yates County.
It's time to wipe the whole slate clean in YC Gene.From the PYVB to the mayor to the DA to the sheriff. Lets not forget the YC legislature either! Time to put the old goats out and bring in some new people with new ideas! These old goats have been in to long! Time to break up the good ole boys and get something done!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/15/17 08:29 AM

I respectfully disagree "Gassy". I don't think everyone should be lumped together. You shouldn't "throw out the baby with the bath water"! I believe one should look at individuals records regarding job performance and fiscal responsibility to the taxpayers when evaluating whether one should go or not.
Posted by: leeoh

Re: Casella for DA - 07/15/17 10:44 AM

The Penn Yan police arrested a local man with a brain tumor for DWI who took a Blood test that proved he wasn't intoxicated. Gardner received the results back and kept the results from the court and the man for over four months so the state wouldn't know the man was innocent, therefore her DWI conviction rate wouldn't reflect his false arrest, this innocent man died before Gardner made this fact know, Gardner is not mentality fit to be Yates County District Attorney
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/15/17 12:08 PM

leeoh, its nice to see you are back to save our community with your version of "truth, justice and the American way". Now that you are done exposing the corrupt Village and county over the town house development at the Penn Yan Boat site you are back sharing your version of the truth with us in the District Attorney race.

The Police would have received the "results" back, depending on how long the lab took to send it. They would have arrested the defendant for common law DWI if they did a blood test. Its pretty standard to do a breath test after arrest unless there was an accident that precluded them from doing so. The arresting officer would need probable cause to make the arrest. Neither you or I know the whole story. We all know you have a hate crusade against Ms. Gardner.
Posted by: leeoh

Re: Casella for DA - 07/15/17 01:28 PM

MG maybe as usual you don't know the facts but I do, Val was more concerned about getting her DWI convictions so she sat on the lab test findings for four months. This man went to his grave still charged with DWI because Val sat on the truth that would of proven he was innocent, she did this because she is heartless.
Posted by: Blue_man

Re: Casella for DA - 07/15/17 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: leeoh
The Penn Yan police arrested a local man with a brain tumor for DWI who took a Blood test that proved he wasn't intoxicated. Gardner received the results back and kept the results from the court and the man for over four months so the state wouldn't know the man was innocent, therefore her DWI conviction rate wouldn't reflect his false arrest, this innocent man died before Gardner made this fact know, Gardner is not mentality fit to be Yates County District Attorney


That story makes no sense whatsoever. If he died while the charges were pending the charges would automatically be dismissed. So it would not count as a conviction in any event.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 07/16/17 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I respectfully disagree "Gassy". I don't think everyone should be lumped together. You shouldn't "throw out the baby with the bath water"! I believe one should look at individuals records regarding job performance and fiscal responsibility to the taxpayers when evaluating whether one should go or not.
Gene who on the VB is going to stand up against another trustee? It doesn't happen. Stewart was supposed to be a breath of fresh air when he was first elected but he is just one of the boys now! It's time for new people instead of just recycling the same ones over & over!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/17/17 11:40 AM

Gassy, I went to a meeting a couple months ago and presented a petition signed by just about everyone on Stark ave. and a couple of Clinton st. residents requesting the Village do something about the house at 106 Stark ave that has been posted by the Village as not habitable the last couple of years. The house has been empty with trash strewn all around it for around ten years or so.

The newspaper didn't mention the petition in the paper, maybe they don't like to print negative things happening in the Village.

I know a couple new board members were elected a couple years ago. One of them approached me a few days after I presented the petition and stated they were going to try and address the situation at 106. I would think the two newer members are up to speed on the workings of the Village after a couple of years.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 07/17/17 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Gassy, I went to a meeting a couple months ago and presented a petition signed by just about everyone on Stark ave. and a couple of Clinton st. residents requesting the Village do something about the house at 106 Stark ave that has been posted by the Village as not habitable the last couple of years. The house has been empty with trash strewn all around it for around ten years or so.

The newspaper didn't mention the petition in the paper, maybe they don't like to print negative things happening in the Village.

I know a couple new board members were elected a couple years ago. One of them approached me a few days after I presented the petition and stated they were going to try and address the situation at 106. I would think the two newer members are up to speed on the workings of the Village after a couple of years.
Probably the same thing will happen as has happened with Willie's house on Champlan after the flood. NOTHING!
Posted by: Curmudgeon

Re: Casella for DA - 07/17/17 06:37 PM

.......and so it begins.......
Posted by: yipes

Re: Casella for DA - 07/18/17 02:06 PM

nice job MG, deflecting & misdirecting from the posted topic
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/19/17 11:52 AM

You are still confused "Yipes", I was responding to something "Gassy" brought up. smile
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Casella for DA - 07/19/17 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
The newspaper didn't mention the petition in the paper, maybe they don't like to print negative things happening in the Village.

Have you tried contacting the newspaper regarding the subject?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/19/17 11:45 PM

Their representative was there with her computer documenting the meeting. I was surprised there wasn't some mention of it in her report of the Board meeting. I figure its not my job to tell them what to report on.
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Casella for DA - 07/20/17 02:21 AM


I think you drastically underestimate the influence of public opinion and how news organizations respond to personal inquiry.

If a reporter was sent to cover an event, it's a virtual certainty that they plan on reporting.

Call them.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 07/20/17 09:45 PM

Saw this today Gene!

Todd Casella for Yates County District Attorney
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Yesterday Valerie Gardner completely crossed the line. She sent a private investigator to harass and intimidate my wife while I was at work and she was alone with our one-year old daughter.

I have had to deal with plenty of rough people in my career as a prosecutor, and I am not afraid to deal with anyone. But my family is absolutely off limits!

If someone wants to come at me, they can do so directly and leave my wife and daughter out of it. Now my wife is terrified that we are under surveillance and does not even want to go outside with our daughter anymore.

Valerie Gardner needs to call off her thugs and leave my family alone!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/21/17 08:09 AM

I was able to see it when it was sent to me by a friend, I don't get to see his ads, he blocked me from his page because I offended him by calling him a carpetbagger!

He started his campaign in a nasty and unethical way and has continued to do so. Yates County voters will see thru this BS that he is posting. I doubt in his FOUR years as a lawyer he has handled that many rough people. You notice he doesn't get specific about what intimidation and harassment took place because its BS. Please feel free to post Ms. Gardners response to his outlandish claims!!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 07/21/17 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I was able to see it when it was sent to me by a friend, I don't get to see his ads, he blocked me from his page because I offended him by calling him a carpetbagger!

He started his campaign in a nasty and unethical way and has continued to do so. Yates County voters will see thru this BS that he is posting. I doubt in his FOUR years as a lawyer he has handled that many rough people. You notice he doesn't get specific about what intimidation and harassment took place because its BS. Please feel free to post Ms. Gardners response to his outlandish claims!!
Haven't seen it or I would!
Posted by: Sam the Sham

Re: Casella for DA - 07/22/17 07:37 AM

Reading between the lines, I suspect the "harassment" consisted of sending an investigator out to Casella's residence to confirm it's not actually in Yates County.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 07/22/17 08:23 PM

Reading between the lines it would seem that a legitimate investigation would be something a person would admit to doing. So if that's the case who was it and who hired this person?
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 07/22/17 08:25 PM

Even bad guys know you don't mess with families.
Posted by: Blue_man

Re: Casella for DA - 07/22/17 09:57 PM

"Harassment" is a legal term and it denotes an offense under the Penal Law.

If the PI had really harassed anyone, he'd have been arrested by now.

Dollars to donuts the "harassment" consisted of nothing but the PI going to Steuben County and politely asking Mrs Casella if this was in fact their legal residence.

Sounds like Casella is a snowflake.
Posted by: yipes

Re: Casella for DA - 07/25/17 10:42 AM

Mommy he hit me first
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 07/26/17 08:02 PM

MG watch what happens in the next two weeks to your candidate and her sidekick, you'll be begging Todd for campaign posters to replace Val's you've placed at your apartments. I just love it when a plan comes together, MG you be moving to Florida full time after this election.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 07/27/17 08:18 AM

I can't wait, maybe I will seek you out in the vineyards where you are working to get the inside scoop!
Posted by: dj205

Re: Casella for DA - 07/29/17 10:48 PM

Well, then sign up!
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 07/30/17 07:38 AM

Gentlemen, please get your facts before tossing rocks...Valerie Gardner hired a local PI to check and see the THREE addresses Casella had on his petitions....He listed THREE different residences, NONE of which are in Yates County.....You would think he would cross all his t's and dot all his i's and have a local residence before sending out petitions....You'll notice that three of his party lines have been disqualified...
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/06/17 05:42 PM

Casella signs are starting to appear all over Yates County in lawns of law enforcement officers, when Former Penn Yan Police Chief Hulse retired last week he within one day put one in his lawn, State Police, Yates County Sheriff Department officers and the Penn Yan Police are all endorsing Casella for Yates County District Attorney. They claim that Gardner has shown in the last three and half years that she is a lazy prosecutor who is not fit for the job.
Posted by: yipes

Re: Casella for DA - 08/07/17 07:44 AM

I have noticed that as well, very 'telling' for sure. When do we vote?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/07/17 08:35 AM

Ha Ha, no doubt some are endorsing Casella, It tells me one thing. They didn't pay attention in basic school when they were told it was there job to arrest people, not to worry about how a case was disposed of in court.

I personally know LE officers who are not supporting Casella so your "all" statement is BS. I think it is very "telling" someone would support an out of county resident they don't know.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/07/17 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Ha Ha, no doubt some are endorsing Casella, It tells me one thing. They didn't pay attention in basic school when they were told it was there job to arrest people, not to worry about how a case was disposed of in court.

I personally know LE officers who are not supporting Casella so your "all" statement is BS. I think it is very "telling" someone would support an out of county resident they don't know.
It's easy Gene! If your not happy with 1 or 2 you go to three!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/07/17 05:51 PM

Court hearing today in Rochester was held to decide if Todd Casella will have the two parties lines reinstated that were taken away for him by the Yates County Board of Elections, it appears that Casella will get the 2 party lines back when Judge Ark renders his decisions on Wednesday. Casella took the stand and answered All questions put to him by the high priced lawyer hired by Gardner's supporter who filed the frivolous lawsuit, the high priced lawyer called no witness to testify for Gardner's side. Gardner better start looking for a new job, maybe she can get appointed to Brockman's job that he will losing soon Yates county Public Defender.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/07/17 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Court hearing today in Rochester was held to decide if Todd Casella will have the two parties lines reinstated that were taken away for him by the Yates County Board of Elections, it appears that Casella will get the 2 party lines back when Judge Ark renders his decisions on Wednesday. Casella took the stand and answered All questions put to him by the high priced lawyer hired by Gardner's supporter who filed the frivolous lawsuit, the high priced lawyer called no witness to testify for Gardner's side. Gardner better start looking for a new job, maybe she can get appointed to Brockman's job that he will losing soon Yates county Public Defender.
Not to crash the thread but what happened to the charges against Brockman?
Posted by: McLovin'

Re: Casella for DA - 08/08/17 06:47 AM

How can anyone believe helpme? I'm not a Gardner fan, but what helpme reported has no credence at all. I guess we will see tomorrow if he is doing his usual BS. Too bad helpme didn't give details, just what he hopes happens. You might call it FAKE NEWS. I wonder why Daines or Brechko didn't testify.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 08/08/17 12:13 PM

I am still waiting to hear who the private investigator was in this case. Any one know? Surely Gene must know, please tell us.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 08/08/17 12:17 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Ha Ha, no doubt some are endorsing Casella, It tells me one thing. They didn't pay attention in basic school when they were told it was there job to arrest people, not to worry about how a case was disposed of in court.

I personally know LE officers who are not supporting Casella so your "all" statement is BS. I think it is very "telling" someone would support an out of county resident they don't know.
It's easy Gene! If your not happy with 1 or 2 you go to three!


Isn't it a good thing for law enforcement to want to follow a case from start to finish? Doesn't that show they care about what happens? I know that Donald trump doesn't live in Penn van and I don't know him, but I sure voted for him.
Posted by: Blue_man

Re: Casella vs Gardner - 08/08/17 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic

Isn't it a good thing for law enforcement to want to follow a case from start to finish? Doesn't that show they care about what happens?


I think the bigger issue that Gene was touching upon is that (to paraphrase "law and order") we are are supposed to have "two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders"

Once the case goes to the District Attorney, the DA is not the lawyer for the police, but for the People of the State of New York. They're job is to help ensure a fair prosecution, not just convict. Too many police seem to think the DA's are their to represent them and to get a conviction on the police cases even when one isn't warranted.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella vs Gardner - 08/08/17 05:21 PM

Well stated "Blue Man". As a police investigator or officer I always took ownership of my cases and presented the best possible information so it would be easy for a prosecutor to look at and decide how to proceed.

If a prosecutor had a question about the circumstances they would call me. If I had a case that I had very strong feelings about I would let the D.A. know, but that didn't happen very often. The point that was taught in basic school was not to get involved worrying about the disposition of your arrest. If you put together a good case it would usually get pled out.

If you send the prosecutor a lousy case, especially if the defense knows, it probably won't go anywhere.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella vs Gardner - 08/08/17 05:23 PM

"Cynic", your reference to Trump regarding a national election is not comparing apples to apples regarding a local election. smile
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella vs Gardner - 08/08/17 09:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
"Cynic", your reference to Trump regarding a national election is not comparing apples to apples regarding a local election. smile
Sure does Gene.Instead of rehashing the same people over & over again bring in a outsider with new views and thoughts!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella vs Gardner - 08/09/17 07:27 AM

gassy, I believe his post was reference to a prior comment why someone would vote for someone they don't know who doesn't live in the county. A national election is a bit different than a local one.

In this case we are not dealing with the "same people over and over again" Ms. Gardner came in and uprooted someone the establishment put in the position. She has been there one term. I wouldn't refer to her as " a same person over and over again"
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/14/17 05:57 PM

Well once again I'm right, last week Gardner had 2 felony drug cases throw out of County Court and now today we learn she lost 2 election law lawsuits. Tomorrow like last week she will have at least 2 more felony drug cases dismissed because she screwed them up, these dismissals most likely will cost Yates County taxpayers $$$.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/14/17 06:00 PM

McMuff You just proved you are foolish.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/14/17 09:20 PM

CASELLA WINS NYS SUPREME COURT CASE AGAINST GARDNER, WILL REMAIN ON BALLOT IN YATES D.A. RACE

(Rochester, NY) Today the New York State Supreme Court ruled in favor of Todd Casella and against Valerie Gardner’s attempts to remove him from the ballot in this year’s election for Yates County District Attorney. The ruling means that Casella will be on the ballot for the September 12th Republican Primary Election, and on the ballot on the Independence and Reform lines for the November 7th General Election.

“It’s pretty simple: The voters of Yates County deserve a choice,” said Casella in reaction to the ruling. “Valerie Gardner has gone to great lengths to try to remove me from the ballot. You have to wonder why she’s trying everything she can to avoid facing the voters on Election Day. This is not only a great victory for me, but a great victory for the democratic process and the People of Yates County.”

While the challenges were filed at the Board of Elections and Supreme Court by Gardner’s close associate, Penelope Marchionda, Gardner was the driving force behind them. She personally appeared in Supreme Court with Marchionda and listed the expense of filing the Supreme Court Index Number on her latest Campaign Financial Disclosure Report. The Private Investigator who harassed Casella’s wife and one-year old daughter also appeared in court with Gardner.

“Before deciding to run for D.A., I asked myself one question: Is justice being done for the people?” he added. “Unfortunately, the answer was ‘No’. That’s why I’m running for District Attorney to bring my dedication and passion for justice to the office, and am respectfully asking the people of Yates County for their vote.”

“It was a privilege and honor to talk directly with voters as we collected nearly 1,000 signatures for my petitions,” said Mr. Casella. “It’s abundantly clear that they’re ready for new leadership that is committed to the principals of justice in the District Attorney’s Office. People are ready for a change and I’m prepared to take on that challenge.”

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom. He is a zealous courtroom advocate and principled prosecutor who has earned the endorsement of the New York State Police in his candidacy for Yates County District Attorney.

The Republican Primary Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 and the General Election will be held on Tuesday, November 7, 2017
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/14/17 09:54 PM

helpme, I am sure the paper will cover dismissal of any felony
drug cases in great detail, you will excuse me if I wait for the details from the paper.

I see Gassy has reprinted Casella's new release he provided for the media regarding the court case. He forgot to mention in the article he used three different addresses in his filings with the Board of Elections which caused his paperwork to be challenged. I am glad a challenge was filed against someone who doesn't live, work or have any connection to Yates County who listed three different addresses!!!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 05:29 AM

MG is it true you contacted Casella to offer your support, and you then claimed you asked Gardner to return your 10$ campaign donation so you could give it to him?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 06:48 AM

I heard he only takes large donations from rich folks outside of Yates County. Besides, I wouldn't know what address to mail a donation to, he has listed multiple addresses. smile
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
helpme, I am sure the paper will cover dismissal of any felony
drug cases in great detail, you will excuse me if I wait for the details from the paper.

I see Gassy has reprinted Casella's new release he provided for the media regarding the court case. He forgot to mention in the article he used three different addresses in his filings with the Board of Elections which caused his paperwork to be challenged. I am glad a challenge was filed against someone who doesn't live, work or have any connection to Yates County who listed three different addresses!!!
Change is good Gene! Outsiders are good especially when it breaks up all the little groups & clubs that are running the county!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 10:57 AM

Your perception of this one is wrong. Ms. Gardner is not part of "a little group or club running the county".

If you looked at the big picture you would realize the "groups" running the county are trying to bring an outsider in. You don't think this guy just picked Yates County out of the blue do you?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Your perception of this one is wrong. Ms. Gardner is not part of "a little group or club running the county".

If you looked at the big picture you would realize the "groups" running the county are trying to bring an outsider in. You don't think this guy just picked Yates County out of the blue do you?
You see who filed the lawsuit for her didn't you? That tells me enough already!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 09:45 PM

I don't know what to say other than she was a classmate of mine in high school. I don't think she or her family consist of a "group".

Everyone has a reason to support someone, or dislike them. I think if you would ask Ms. Gardner she would tell you that she appreciates support from all voters in Yates County.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/15/17 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I don't know what to say other than she was a classmate of mine in high school. I don't think she or her family consist of a "group".

Everyone has a reason to support someone, or dislike them. I think if you would ask Ms. Gardner she would tell you that she appreciates support from all voters in Yates County.
Sure they do! Look at all the problem there was when JR. was mayor,then all the problem at the water treatment plant! How many citizens do you think could get away with the crap he did! The only reason he did was because of his name! You should know that firsthand Gene!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/16/17 07:22 AM

I understand what your saying, so because you are unhappy with those things you automatically have decided if she supports Ms. Gardner, that you will not? That is not fair to Ms. Gardner. You should be comparing Ms. Gardner to who is running against her, not who is supporting her.

Ms. Gardner had no input in any of those situations you speak of. smile
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/16/17 08:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I understand what your saying, so because you are unhappy with those things you automatically have decided if she supports Ms. Gardner, that you will not? That is not fair to Ms. Gardner. You should be comparing Ms. Gardner to who is running against her, not who is supporting her.

Ms. Gardner had no input in any of those situations you speak of. smile
It all goes back to my point of groups or clubs in the county and who you hang around with!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/16/17 02:41 PM

I doubt Ms. Gardner runs in the same social circle as Penne. I support Ms. Gardner but our social connection is exchanging hellos and chatting briefly when I occasionally run into her.

Have a great day!!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/16/17 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Well once again I'm right, last week Gardner had 2 felony drug cases throw out of County Court and now today we learn she lost 2 election law lawsuits. Tomorrow like last week she will have at least 2 more felony drug cases dismissed because she screwed them up, these dismissals most likely will cost Yates County taxpayers $$$.



once again you are wrong helpme, the Chronicle-Distress had a very detailed explanation as too why the Prosecution and Defense joined together to request the cases be dismissed. In one case a key witness for the prosecution changed her story. The D.A. is quoted saying she could not put her on the stand knowing she had contradicted her original statement.

The other involved someone who was charged with three felony drug charges, was convicted of them and had served time. Apparently there was a fourth charge LE waited almost a year before arresting him. Defendant has been paroled out of jail. bottom line if he had been charged in a timely fashion all of the charges would have been disposed of together.

A prosecutors sole function is to see that Justice is done. It appears that is what happened in those two cases. Your spin is misleading again!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/16/17 03:22 PM

Nice try MG Gardner jump on board when she knew she screwed-up the 3 cases because she failed to have a speedy trial for one of the defendants and her snitch to turned out to be a liar like her, it's all over for Gardner now that Casella has won BOTH election lawsuits.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/17/17 07:39 AM

Once again you spin the facts to fit your own narrative. FYI, the police investigate and arrest people on drug cases, quite often using a confidential informant (snitch to some people). The D.A. doesn't own a "snitch", the snitch is found and used by law enforcement. The D.A. is bound by ethical standards to do what is right. If the "snitch" changed her story the D.A. is duty bound to report that to the court.

The newspaper report makes sense, you do not.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 08:09 AM

Gardner and her supporter have lost both election law lawsuits, and then Gardner had 3 felony court cases dismissed because she doesn't understand the law. The former defendants are now going to sue the village of Penn Yan and Yates County, Gardner has disgraced the Yates County District Attorney office and now Yates County taxpayers will have to pay for her foolish mistakes.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 02:04 PM

You are still spewing BS, the court cases you speak to were dismissed jointly at the request of the D.A. and the defense because the D.A. was bound by ethical standards. Are you friends with the defendants? I doubt there will be any lawsuit, if a key witness of the police changes their story the D.A. cannot put them on the stand to testify to their original statement.

Look up the definition of "Ethics", it is something your candidate and you don't seem to understand.

He started his campaign with deceit and lies by attacking Ms. Gardner. Apparently his experience and record are lacking. He is following a typical lawyers path. He can't attack her record of saving the county alot of money or her conviction rate so he is trying to attack her credibility. While you are at it lookup the term "Carpetbagger", it fits Mr. Casella.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 04:01 PM

One Defendant's attorney made a motion to dismiss charges for Gardner's failure to provide a speedy trial, the other 2 cases Gardner's informant wasn't questioned by Val before she had the defendants arrested, that was a big mistake which resulted in forced dropped charges against the defendants which most likely will result in expensive lawsuits. Let me see "Ethics" is that when one is being paid to perform Chief of Police duties but instead is selling real estate at taxpayers expense?
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 08:27 PM

Let me see "Ethics" is that when one is being paid to perform Chief of Police duties but instead is selling real estate at taxpayers expense?

Who did this? Isn't that a crime, I remember reading a while back that 2 deputies in a genesee county got arrested for being paid at one place and doing work for another?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
You are still spewing BS, the court cases you speak to were dismissed jointly at the request of the D.A. and the defense because the D.A. was bound by ethical standards. Are you friends with the defendants? I doubt there will be any lawsuit, if a key witness of the police changes their story the D.A. cannot put them on the stand to testify to their original statement.

Look up the definition of "Ethics", it is something your candidate and you don't seem to understand.

He started his campaign with deceit and lies by attacking Ms. Gardner. Apparently his experience and record are lacking. He is following a typical lawyers path. He can't attack her record of saving the county alot of money or her conviction rate so he is trying to attack her credibility. While you are at it lookup the term "Carpetbagger", it fits Mr. Casella.
Come on Gene you weren't noted for being ethical in your jobs at the YCS or PD!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 11:02 PM

helpme, keep spinning, If it was a drug case the defendant was most likely indicted by a grand jury before being arrested. The informant would have testified prior to the arrest at Grand Jury, no testimony, no indictment.

If it was a rare case of a drug arrest without a grand jury then the police would have made the arrest prior to the D.A. being involved and a sworn statement would have been taken from the informant.

The paper was very clear that it was joint motion to dismiss on the one defendant because the defendant was not charged for almost a year after a criminal complaint was filed by police and the subject had pled to three other sale charges during the time in question.

You have a history on here of showing a strong dislike for Ms. Gardner going back several years. It doesn't matter what the truth is to you, you will spin things they way you want.

You can try and attack me all you want, Go ask to see my personnel file at the Police Department and Sheriff's department. There is not one disciplinary issue in either file. I will be glad to grant you permission if you have the moxie to do a FOIL request.

I have been a licensed Real Estate Agent/Broker since the mid-eighties. There was no law prohibiting me from engaging in that profession when I was off duty and there was never a complaint that I did while on duty. Nice try though!! smile
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/19/17 11:22 PM

Gardner has had more cases dismissed in her 3 years and 8 months as District Attorney than all the other District Attorneys combined in the last 36 years, former Judge Falvey supports Casella just like "ALL the STATE POLICE along with all County and Local Police". MG you and that private eye both of you 2 former cops are the only ones that don't, both of you were asked to retire I guess that says it all.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/20/17 07:16 AM

More BS. Didn't anyone tell you never to use the work "All". I personally know some active law enforcement that don't support the carpetbagger. More BS.

Those in LE who complain didn't pay attention in basic school when they were told their job was to arrest people, not to worry about how cases are disposed of.

No one asked me to retire, I think the public asked the former D.A. to retire from his job after a term with zero convictions on the cases he took to trial and dumping most of his work on his 3 assistants. Ms. Gardner kept her campaign promise to be more efficient and has saved the county $300,000 since taking office by eliminating one position.

I think that herbicide they are spraying in the vineyards is affecting your judgment. smile
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/20/17 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
helpme, keep spinning, If it was a drug case the defendant was most likely indicted by a grand jury before being arrested. The informant would have testified prior to the arrest at Grand Jury, no testimony, no indictment.

If it was a rare case of a drug arrest without a grand jury then the police would have made the arrest prior to the D.A. being involved and a sworn statement would have been taken from the informant.

The paper was very clear that it was joint motion to dismiss on the one defendant because the defendant was not charged for almost a year after a criminal complaint was filed by police and the subject had pled to three other sale charges during the time in question.

You have a history on here of showing a strong dislike for Ms. Gardner going back several years. It doesn't matter what the truth is to you, you will spin things they way you want.

You can try and attack me all you want, Go ask to see my personnel file at the Police Department and Sheriff's department. There is not one disciplinary issue in either file. I will be glad to grant you permission if you have the moxie to do a FOIL request.

I have been a licensed Real Estate Agent/Broker since the mid-eighties. There was no law prohibiting me from engaging in that profession when I was off duty and there was never a complaint that I did while on duty. Nice try though!! smile
Just because you have no write ups doesn't make you ethical Gene!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/20/17 10:11 PM

Just because 'helpme" or you say I was unethical doesn't mean I was either. I am satisfied I treated people I dealt with fairly over my 36 years. Doesn't matter to me what you think.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/21/17 05:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Just because 'helpme" or you say I was unethical doesn't mean I was either. I am satisfied I treated people I dealt with fairly over my 36 years. Doesn't matter to me what you think.
I'm sure you are satisfied, please tell the public why you didn't attend former Chief Hulse's retirement party.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/21/17 08:16 AM

Didn't know he had one. Its been eight years, Must be I didn't make the guest list. He is a good person, I wish him well in his new career.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

Re: Casella for DA - 08/21/17 10:26 AM

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"... He is following a typical lawyers path..."

Too bad that 97.8% of lawyers make it bad for the rest of us. Apology accepted.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/21/17 10:46 AM

smile great to hear from you Curmudgeon! BTW that was a quote from a lawyer, can't remember his name many years ago. "If you can't attack the evidence, attack the character of the witness"

I quit doing lawyer jokes when my daughter became one!!!
Posted by: Triumph the Dog

Re: Casella for DA - 08/22/17 12:52 PM

Quote:
I quit doing lawyer jokes when my daughter became one!!!
Yer daughter became a lawyer joke?

I keed. I keed. wink
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/22/17 04:37 PM

guilty as charged, I didn't phrase that properly! English composition was never a strong point for me. She is no Joke! smile Three years as a Prosecutor at the Bronx D.A.'s office before taking a job with the NYC law department defending against Federal Civil rights law suits.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/23/17 05:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I guess I called that right, helpme, one of Cook's biggest anti-Conlon and anti-Gardner fans has jumped right in with his support for someone from another county that he does not know. There is little doubt in my mind that Casella has been recruited to run by some vindictive people.
Today the fourth department will hear a appeal filed by one of Gardner's misguided supporters, this is a desperate attempted to overturn a ruling from Judge Ark to prevent the voters of Yates County from having a choice in electing a District Attorney this fall. Gardner who's court case dismissal record is the worst for any Yates County District Attorney has cause her supporters to dwindle down to few " you owe me supporters", Gardner knows that her tenure as Yates County District Attorney is coming to a end if Casella remains on the ballot. Gardner to date has not accepted a invitation from SCOPE to debate Casella, I wonder what Gardner is afraid of her record?
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 07:44 AM

Why would anyone accept an invitation to debate a candidate who might still be thrown off the ballot?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 05:57 PM

Another fractured fairy tale from "helpme" I am sure Ms. Gardner will be glad to debate at a candidate forum prior to the election. That is if the fourth department upholds Judge Ark's decision. I am guessing they will base their decision on prior case law, but one never knows.

I applaud Ms. Gardner's supporters for questioning an unknown person from another county who listed three different addresses on his paperwork when he decided to run. I am sure her record will stand up well compared to Mr, Casella's three years as an attorney out of a fourth tier law school known for "grade fixing".
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 09:15 PM

Funny thing, I was sitting having lunch at a py hotspot and overheard an interesting banter,going back and forth about this issue. The funny part, aside from the nonsense argument was one of the group said that if,gene is,backing her I'm voting for him. I guess more people read these stupid forums than we think. Keep pushing the agenda, your only helping the opposition.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Another fractured fairy tale from "helpme" I am sure Ms. Gardner will be glad to debate at a candidate forum prior to the election. That is if the fourth department upholds Judge Ark's decision. I am guessing they will base their decision on prior case law, but one never knows.

I applaud Ms. Gardner's supporters for questioning an unknown person from another county who listed three different addresses on his paperwork when he decided to run. I am sure her record will stand up well compared to Mr, Casella's three years as an attorney out of a fourth tier law school known for "grade fixing".
Getting kinda personal aren't you Gene! So what's you vested interest in this anyway Gene? You gotta be getting something out of this! For you to support someone that Marchionda supports isn't like you! I'll vote for Casella! Can't vote for anybody supported by Marchionda. I think there are a lot of people who feel that way! That shows me Gardner lacks good judgement!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 10:07 PM

Just stating the facts, The law school he attended is ranked a Tier four law school, is known as the place to go if you can't get in any other school.

The person getting personal was Casella, he came out of the gate personally attacking Ms. Gardner with unethical untrue statements.

As for my "supporting someone that Marchionda supports isn't like you", that is a non-starter. I am supporting the logical, experienced and only Yates County resident who has saved the taxpayers alot of money, as she promised she would.


Not interested in throwing $180,000 to an inexperienced assistant D.A. who has no ties to our county.

Lastly, which "hotspot" are you hanging at, Dunkin Donuts or McDonalds? smile
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Just stating the facts, The law school he attended is ranked a Tier four law school, is known as the place to go if you can't get in any other school.

The person getting personal was Casella, he came out of the gate personally attacking Ms. Gardner with unethical untrue statements.

As for my "supporting someone that Marchionda supports isn't like you", that is a non-starter. I am supporting the logical, experienced and only Yates County resident who has saved the taxpayers alot of money, as she promised she would.


Not interested in throwing $180,000 to an inexperienced assistant D.A. who has no ties to our county.

Lastly, which "hotspot" are you hanging at, Dunkin Donuts or McDonalds? smile
Probably doesn't matter Gene! You are far from the top of best liked people in PY! LOL!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella v Gardner - 08/23/17 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Just stating the facts, The law school he attended is ranked a Tier four law school, is known as the place to go if you can't get in any other school.

The person getting personal was Casella, he came out of the gate personally attacking Ms. Gardner with unethical untrue statements.

As for my "supporting someone that Marchionda supports isn't like you", that is a non-starter. I am supporting the logical, experienced and only Yates County resident who has saved the taxpayers alot of money, as she promised she would.


Not interested in throwing $180,000 to an inexperienced assistant D.A. who has no ties to our county.

Lastly, which "hotspot" are you hanging at, Dunkin Donuts or McDonalds? smile
180k is a lot for a bar dancer Gene! LOL!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/24/17 04:53 AM

Update the fourth Department ruled against Casella being on the Republican ballot for the primary election but he remains on the ballot for the Independence and Reform lines for the November 7th general election, so all said and done he won 2 out of three now and on to win the general election on November 7. This latest ruling means nothing because come November 7th Casella will receive the majority of votes from all the parties including the County's Republicans who are embarrassed by Gardner's conduct in and out of court. The same people in Gardner's camp now are the same people who 8 years ago tried to get Edward Brockman elect as District Attorney, I believe that says it all about the them and their candidates.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/24/17 07:20 AM

Yeah, that was a big win for him helpme. I am not sure he has the other two lines locked up yet.

They did not rule on the other two lines because the Yates County attorney didn't appeal the ruling overturning the Board Of Elections decision? Or did he get his address correct on the other two?

Seems though the court based their decision on well founded case law, not their opinion.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/25/17 03:07 PM

MG Wrong again wrong case law that decision will be overturned and Val will have a big bill for nothing , will you be at the pig roast tomorrow?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/25/17 04:38 PM

Trying to go to a pig roast benefit for someone really in need on Sunday. Not tomorrow.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 06:01 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I guess I called that right, helpme, one of Cook's biggest anti-Conlon and anti-Gardner fans has jumped right in with his support for someone from another county that he does not know. There is little doubt in my mind that Casella has been recruited to run by some vindictive people.
Today the fourth department will hear a appeal filed by one of Gardner's misguided supporters, this is a desperate attempted to overturn a ruling from Judge Ark to prevent the voters of Yates County from having a choice in electing a District Attorney this fall. Gardner who's court case dismissal record is the worst for any Yates County District Attorney has cause her supporters to dwindle down to few " you owe me supporters", Gardner knows that her tenure as Yates County District Attorney is coming to a end if Casella remains on the ballot. Gardner to date has not accepted a invitation from SCOPE to debate Casella, I wonder what Gardner is afraid of her record?
Wednesday the parties will ask the Court of Appeals for permission to appeal at 8am, if approved they will be heard in the afternoon, Casella will win.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 08:34 AM

I am glad you are thinking positive. Let's see, Ms. Gardner was at the "SCOPE" forum. You referred to it as a debate that "she would not accept". Another Spin, throwing out partial inaccurate information.

Did you go? I heard she did a great job providing information on her record. Did Casella try and continue to mislead people by saying its all Gardner's fault that he listed three different addresses on his petitions? Its amazing that he would think people should just ignore that, after all everyone knows him and should ignore the fact that he has continued to mislead voters. Just because his last name is on alot of garbage containers around the area doesn't mean people know him!!
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 10:00 AM

Yes Mean Gene DA Gardner did a great job at the Scope event Saturday. On Wednesday Casella stands a good chance of being bounced off all party lines. I heard at the coffee shop where Gassy hangs out that a Special Counsel was mentioned on Casella filing a false instrument.Casella is paying a Public Relations firm called BrightSide Communications from Binghampton and his Buffalo lawyer. Helpme/Bobby Hawley gets his info from BJoy, so it's usually twisted spin. We need to let the system play out,
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 10:25 AM

Casella misled the Finger Lakes times when he claimed to accept the Unanimous decision by the 4 Judges last week. When he realized his bacon was still on the hook for his multiple Notary blunders he reversed his statement. I don't want him charged but he's playing with fire, too many false statements on the record. This is what happens when you're inexperienced. Can't imagine Casella as a DA when he doesn't understand the Election Law. Lawyers aren't required to take the test for a Notary, they get it automatically. His blunders are not just embarrassing they have legal consequences. Casella should realize A Good Retreat Is Better Than A Bad Stand. Not worth losing his law license over this mess he created.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 10:36 AM

Having just bought a house in Penn Yan a few months ago I'm very concerned about this DA race. Why would anyone want to replace an Experienced, Honest, Intelligent, Fair, DA who's been saving us money. I understand PY has a few difficult folks who may be on the wrong side of the law and want a rookie DA. I want law and order for my tax dollars, not a crony from out of town with zero experience.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 10:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Helpme2
Yes Mean Gene DA Gardner did a great job at the Scope event Saturday. On Wednesday Casella stands a good chance of being bounced off all party lines. I heard at the coffee shop where Gassy hangs out that a Special Counsel was mentioned on Casella filing a false instrument.Casella is paying a Public Relations firm called BrightSide Communications from Binghampton and his Buffalo lawyer. Helpme/Bobby Hawley gets his info from BJoy, so it's usually twisted spin. We need to let the system play out,
Sorry no coffee shop for me. Just taking to people on the street unlike people like you who have their nose in the air so high it could be a weather vane!LOL!
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 11:15 AM

Wow Gassy, there's that many people walking around the streets of PY? Last week you said restaurant? I actually live in PY, not sure about you. You make a lot of personal attacks, no facts to support them. As a new resident I just want PY residents to respect each other. You're name calling is unnecessary, please try to be respectful. Support your allegations with facts, hiding behind a keyboard with a name like Gassy one tells me you're not a Classy One..PY deserves better, thank you.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Helpme2
Wow Gassy, there's that many people walking around the streets of PY? Last week you said restaurant? I actually live in PY, not sure about you. You make a lot of personal attacks, no facts to support them. As a new resident I just want PY residents to respect each other. You're name calling is unnecessary, please try to be respectful. Support your allegations with facts, hiding behind a keyboard with a name like Gassy one tells me you're not a Classy One..PY deserves better, thank you.

You need to get your facts straight! I never said anything about a restaurant! You have the wrong person! I've lived here my whole life so I obviously have more FACTS than you!
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 03:48 PM

Okay Gassy, sorry if I called you out for being disrespectful to people who can't defend themselves. For a lifelong resident of PY as you claim you seem very angry. As a new resident I find the people here very nice, beautiful area. By chance are you downstream from Cherry St? Might explain your gassy issues. Take care my friend.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 05:12 PM

MG the debate hasn't taken place yet, but Gardner has now agreed to a debate thought it won't help her.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 06:07 PM

Well Robert , let's make sure Casella is still a candidate in a few days, At the Scope event Saturday I heard he might be a write in only candidate. Seems like a nice man, little nervous acting Saturday.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I guess I called that right, helpme, one of Cook's biggest anti-Conlon and anti-Gardner fans has jumped right in with his support for someone from another county that he does not know. There is little doubt in my mind that Casella has been recruited to run by some vindictive people.
Today the fourth department will hear a appeal filed by one of Gardner's misguided supporters, this is a desperate attempted to overturn a ruling from Judge Ark to prevent the voters of Yates County from having a choice in electing a District Attorney this fall. Gardner who's court case dismissal record is the worst for any Yates County District Attorney has cause her supporters to dwindle down to few " you owe me supporters", Gardner knows that her tenure as Yates County District Attorney is coming to a end if Casella remains on the ballot. Gardner to date has not accepted a invitation from SCOPE to debate Casella, I wonder what Gardner is afraid of her record?
Wednesday the parties will ask the Court of Appeals for permission to appeal at 8am, if approved they will be heard in the afternoon, Casella will win.
MG. Casella is looking to buy a house in Penn Yan close to the Court House where he will be working as Yates County's next District Attorney, do you know of any listing near by?
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 08:39 PM

Is that one on Champlin Ave or Benham still for sale? Hopefully someone fills out the paperwork for him. Long commute to Bath.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/28/17 10:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Helpme2
Okay Gassy, sorry if I called you out for being disrespectful to people who can't defend themselves. For a lifelong resident of PY as you claim you seem very angry. As a new resident I find the people here very nice, beautiful area. By chance are you downstream from Cherry St? Might explain your gassy issues. Take care my friend.
I've seen a lot of shenanigans over the years when it comes to YC or PY politics! By the way I think Willie's house on Champlan is still in violation of code enforcement from years ago when the flood hit! Might get a deal! LOL!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 05:12 AM

Todd Casella is a good honest "family" man who will be Yates County's next District Attorney, all law enforcement agencies in the county "respect and support" him. Yates County residents will be blessed when he becomes our next morality fit District attorney, God bless him and his family.
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 05:49 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Todd Casella is a good honest "family" man who will be Yates County's next District Attorney, all law enforcement agencies in the county "respect and support" him. Yates County residents will be blessed when he becomes our next morality fit District attorney, God bless him and his family.


That's what this is really about, isn't it? Some people don't like women in positions of power, right?
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 06:30 AM

Sure sounds that way HB, He has an issue with Women in authority or power. He seems obsessed with her. Has nothing to do who's best for the job. My wife went to school with His sisters. Something off there dealing with women she said. Good one Gassy, Casella could live on Champlin Ave, lol
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 06:57 AM

I just saw a big dirty old Casella Garbage truck headed down a street in PY. Satisfaction Guaranteed or Double Your Garbage Back. Does that violate the Election law driving a Garbage truck around town campaigning.? Looked like Helpme behind the wheel.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Helpme2
I just saw a big dirty old Casella Garbage truck headed down a street in PY. Satisfaction Guaranteed or Double Your Garbage Back. Does that violate the Election law driving a Garbage truck around town campaigning.? Looked like Helpme behind the wheel.
OH BOY! LOL!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Todd Casella is a good honest "family" man who will be Yates County's next District Attorney, all law enforcement agencies in the county "respect and support" him. Yates County residents will be blessed when he becomes our next morality fit District attorney, God bless him and his family.
Yes a good family man who is honest,fair and smart and that scares the hell out Gardner and her sidekick. I just love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 04:22 PM

I was wondering how you knew Mr. Casella was "honest, fair and smart"? Have you not noticed he wasn't "smart" enough to use one address as his residence instead of three?

Or that he wasn't "smart" enough to get into a decent law school, instead went to a last resort tier four law school in NY City that has a history of selling grades.

Was he "honest" when he announced he was the only "true republican" seeking the nomination from the republican party when he in fact was a registered democrat in Queens NY for three years, then a "no designated party" registrant for one year before enrolling as a republican to get his current job in Steuben county?

Maybe he is fair, one out of three isn't bad.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 04:22 PM

Just read in the FL Times that Casella paid 7,500 dollars for a Public Relations firm to help him smear the DA. I hope Helpme made a few bucks hauling his garbage. If Casella knew the history of his little helper he might think twice. Why is Helpme so intimidated by Strong women?
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 04:29 PM

I think I should call Casella and tell him the history of Helpme. Maybe call his PR Firm and let them know. I doubt a Respectable DA Candidate would want such a character posting for him on Social Media. Watch how fast Helpme puts up a Gardner sign.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 05:29 PM

Well he's smart enough to be in the lead and he has 2 party lines and after tomorrow he will have 3, yes MG he's smart, honest and a great "Family Man" so VOTE for Casella.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 06:10 PM

Get your Facts straight Helpme, did you read the FL Times article? Did you understand it? The Appeals Court may not even hear the case. Did you catch that? You're really doing a disservice to Casella by spewing your nonsense. I hope to talk to him and let him know the history of Helpme. You really need to check yourself.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I was wondering how you knew Mr. Casella was "honest, fair and smart"? Have you not noticed he wasn't "smart" enough to use one address as his residence instead of three?

Or that he wasn't "smart" enough to get into a decent law school, instead went to a last resort tier four law school in NY City that has a history of selling grades.

Was he "honest" when he announced he was the only "true republican" seeking the nomination from the republican party when he in fact was a registered democrat in Queens NY for three years, then a "no designated party" registrant for one year before enrolling as a republican to get his current job in Steuben county?

Maybe he is fair, one out of three isn't bad.
I think your knock on Casella because he didn't go to a top tier law school is a little overboard Not everybody can afford the luxuries your daughter has! As far as the addresses his explanation sounds reasonable to me! I just wonder what your vested interest in this is? For somebody who lives here less than half a year you sure have a lot of interest in Gardner!
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/29/17 10:54 PM

Hey Gassy, Good questions, If you look at Touro College it's not just a poorly rated rated law school that accepts anybody that can afford a pricey tuition. The school was busted for grade changing , fraud , etc. If you want you can find those facts online. I know the NY city papers were all over it. Casella started at Queens College, same as a community college only run by NYC. He went to Touro on Long Island and bought / earned his law degree. Fraud was a big issue when he attended, who knows?.... His Address issue was a clear blunder that even the Board of Elections flagged. Many people have different addresses, but you only have one Domicile. Casella was liviving at Sherber or what ever st when he decided to run for DA. He blundered and used Pultney St on his petions, then swore as a Notary that this was a fact. As a new notary, rookie lawyer he botched it. He had time to fix it, chose not to. He accused DA Gardner of being part of the botched signatures that got one of her supporters charged and convicted. So he cast the first stone of attack at a sitting DA. Did he think his 7,500 $ Public Relations firm would bury her for her supporters mistake? The DA took this issue and let the Supreme Court see it. Casella may seem like a hapless well meaning lawyer, but he mislead Yates County from day 1. If he were running for Dog Catcher it would slide maybe. 4 Supreme Court judges ruled his address explanation nonsense didn't float. The Notary issue and his 2 remaining petions are pending. Albany my refuse to hear those appeals. I think at the level of Judge or DA you want exactness , not sloppy blunders. That DA will be deciding prosecution of individuals charged with a crime. I prefer a meticulous individual , not some careless BS artist that Helpme supports. Why does Helpme hate strong Women? Lol, take care Gassy,
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 03:02 AM

Casella has proven himself as a top notch prosecutor and he will becomes Yates County's next District Attorney. Gardner has had more cases dismissed that any other District Attorney in Yates County history, instead of admitting her mistakes she always blames others for her misdeeds the sign of a weak person. When she loses this election who will she blame her sidekick? Casella is experienced, honest and dedicated and he also has a recent photo on his campaign posters not one from 20 years ago like what's her name, Vote Casella because he's the best person for the job.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 07:08 AM

Of course he has a recent photo, if he had one from twenty years ago it would be his elementary school picture!
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 09:28 AM

Helpme really has issues with strong women. He can't go one day without trying to mock or belittle DA Gardner. He is clearly obsessed. I'm sure Casella if he's that respectable would not approve of his little vineyard worker smearing women in his cause for elected office. Helpme has proven he's not very good with understanding facts, maybe he could have his son or someone explain to him that Casella botched this case, no one else to blame.Treating women poorly is an another issue that needs to be addressed, sick behavior. Maybe it's all the pesticides, or insecticides he's exposed to. I wish him well, and to get some help.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 12:15 PM

The Court of Appeals denied Gardner's appeal to throw Casella off his two party lines, Therefore that means Gardner is history so voters please get to know Yates County's next District Attorney Todd Casella he's a good honest family man. Gardner should do the right thing and resolve as many of her active cases before Mr. Casella takes office, now more police agencies will endorse him and the donations will start flow in. Why did the State Police 6,000 strong endorse Casella and not Gardner?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 02:42 PM

You forgot to mention they denied Casella's appeal to be placed back on the Republican. (third line) You know the only line he was going to run on because he was the only "true republican" in the primary.

Its probably good they didn't grant his appeal to be heard. He would then have to make sure his story didn't change again about his addresses.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 03:24 PM

Exactly MG, Casella swings & misses, Remains off Republican Ticket. I don't expect Helpme to understand or report honestly the facts. The Appeals Court in Albany sided with the 4 Judges in Rochester who Unaminously bounced Casella off the Republican line. The court allowed Casella to remain on the undercard that the Yates County Board of Elections had found Notary errors on, so they can't be to thrilled with Casella.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 03:56 PM

Last week Casella said in a press release "While I strongly disagree with the courts decision I will abide by the ruling" Then Casella promptly files an appeal that he has now lost again today 8/30/17. Sorry Casella but your out of Appeals, you won't have to change your story again. No need to tell us "How DIsappointed you are with the Court Ruling " You have to abide with the Courts Decision Now. You can live at anyone of your 3 addresses that you want. The vineyard boy will continue to drag you down with his daily attacks on Women in power. Anyway, it's the voters turn now.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
The Court of Appeals denied Gardner's appeal to throw Casella off his two party lines, Therefore that means Gardner is history so voters please get to know Yates County's next District Attorney Todd Casella he's a good honest family man. Gardner should do the right thing and resolve as many of her active cases before Mr. Casella takes office, now more police agencies will endorse him and the donations will start to flow in. Why did the State Police 6,000 strong endorse Casella and not Gardner?
I just love it when a plan comes together, I'm so happy for the Casella family they are good people,
Posted by: Triumph the Dog

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 06:06 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
I just love it when a plan comes together...


Hees plan was to lose at the Court of Appeals? Who planz like dat? Wile E Coyote?
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/30/17 09:10 PM

Exactly Triumph, I'm guessing the Casella family feels the same despair tonight as they felt last week when 4 Judges kicked him off the Republican Party line for using multiple addresses. Helpme just repeats the same nonsense over & over about a plan coming together. A plan to get kicked off the Republican Party line is brilliant, lmao. Vineyard boy is a real asset to Casella.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 03:06 AM

Gardner and her sidekick are blaming each other for failing to contest Casella's residents on all his parties petitions, a screw-up that cost Gardner over 30,000$ in wasted legal fees and would of knocked Casella out of the race. How foolish for one to make such a preventable error that will now cost her the election, for all it took was a sentence in the objection to the board of elections that stated "I contest the address Casella stated on all petitions" if she had she would of been the only one running. Lack of common knowledge of the law and laziness has now cost her the election and now the blame game has divided her camp, her sidekick who got blamed for her lost last year for not campaigning hard enough is pointing his finger at the one who filed the objections for the screw-up. Gardner has only herself to blame she is the only so called lawyer in her camp and her sidekick is I believe this month a fast food cook, it's the beginning of the end of Yates County's worst District Attorney and it's about time because the citizens of Yates County have suffered enough and deserve better and his name is Todd Casella.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 07:48 AM

You better get some sleep, you stayed up till 3:10AM to post this diatribe? I'm glad you have this venue to vent on so you don't take it out physically on people. Maybe take you or your daughters dog for a walk, you will feel better!
Posted by: Triumph the Dog

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
You better get some sleep, you stayed up till 3:10AM to post this diatribe?


Hot tearz of sadness vill keep anyvun up at night
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 02:06 PM

Sad to see a crack up over a local election.The stress of picking grapes can be overwhelming. To sit up at 3am to rant incoherently about some twisted logic is a bad sign for those around him. Casella may have cut him off after reading his abusive rants towards Women. It's possible Casella losing the appeal he claimed he wouldn't file tipped Helpme over into rage. I talked to his son that said his dad was acting crazy lately, but he laughed it off. Hang in there Helpme, we're here for ya little buddy.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 02:44 PM

I tried to call Casella to let him know that one his supporters was showing signs of EDP or Emotionally Disturbed Person, he was not available. As a friend, neighbor and resident of PY we need to help those in need. Warning signs must be heeded, Mental Health is no joke. I would ask anyone who has access to Casella or his expensive Public Relations firm Bright Side Communication to report that we have, 'man down' as they say on TV. They pumped this poor soul into a frenzy. Please help helpme in this crisis.
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Helpme2
I tried to call Casella to let him know that one his supporters was showing signs of EDP or Emotionally Disturbed Person, he was not available.

Are you sure you called the correct address? I hear he has at least three.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 08/31/17 03:34 PM

Great point HB, he's hard to track down. Maybe I'll call the Steuben DA office tomorrow, and at least leave a message. My wife who works in the Medical field read his 3am rant, she said that's a bad sign. She mentioned Ted Kaczyski ( The Unabomber) started out writing rants. But she added Ted was highly educated, something helpme is not. She said his anger over such a minor issue that he's not a candidate in is unhealthy, he could escalate she mentioned. She went to school with his sisters, she's thinking of reaching out to them. I told her no, he would turn his rage to her, she's a Strong Women , something that triggers helpme as we've seen time & time again.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/01/17 09:47 PM

I was reading one of Gardners press releases when she said crime is down 30% in YC since she took office! Does anybody actually believe that? With all the drug arrests and overdoses I find that highly unlikely!
Posted by: McLovin'

Re: Casella for DA - 09/07/17 09:52 AM

We now have to wait for November to vote for Todd. Not a problem.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/07/17 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
I was reading one of Gardners press releases when she said crime is down 30% in YC since she took office! Does anybody actually believe that? With all the drug arrests and overdoses I find that highly unlikely!




Gassy, I imagine she is using the crime report information that is submitted to New York State by Police agencies who make arrests each year. You could easily provide facts for your statement rather than throwing a question out there. So far the only one I have seen who has been lying and making false and unethical statements is Mr. Casella. He came out of the gate doing that and has not stopped.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/07/17 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: gassy one
I was reading one of Gardners press releases when she said crime is down 30% in YC since she took office! Does anybody actually believe that? With all the drug arrests and overdoses I find that highly unlikely!




Gassy, I imagine she is using the crime report information that is submitted to New York State by Police agencies who make arrests each year. You could easily provide facts for your statement rather than throwing a question out there. So far the only one I have seen who has been lying and making false and unethical statements is Mr. Casella. He came out of the gate doing that and has not stopped.
I don't have the time you do Gene to research it! To me it's just common sense the crime rate hasn't declined 30% with all the drug arrests! I still don't understand your motivation for backing Gardner since you are not a NY resident anymore and can't vote here! Knowing you there has to be something in this for you or you wouldn't back a Marchionda backed candidate!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/07/17 11:30 PM

There you go again gassy, based on your logic, or lack thereof I should be deciding who to support based on what other people are doing. If you can't look at the issues presented by the candidates and make a decision you are approaching this with a twisted motivation.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/08/17 12:08 AM

Gassy, you caught me, If Ms. Gardner wins she will appoint me as an Assistant D.A. so I can practice law without a license. You wouldn't believe all the money I will make. smile

You need to go back and refresh your recollection as to why I am supporting her. It is clearly articulated in numerous posts.

Let me save you the trouble: Mr. Casella is an inexperienced lawyer about three years out of a tier four law school that earned a reputation for selling grades. He doesn't live in Yates County and has no connection to Yates County. He couldn't figure out what address to put on his petitions and complains that Ms. Gardner pulled a dirty trick on him to get him off the ballot, even though he also filed objections to her petitions. Problem is hers were done correctly, his were not.

He was recruited by some disgruntled old time republicans who are still upset for the first time in Yates County history she beat a republican running as an independent four years ago.

He started his campaign stating he was the only "true republican running". His registration history shows he was a registered democrat when he lived in queens for over three years, then registered as "no party" for one year before registering republican three years ago to get his job in Steuben county.

She has won the felony trials she prosecuted in county court, she kept her campaign promise to cut staff, saving the taxpayers 300,000. Her conviction rate is outstanding.

She has been registered republican in Yates County for over twenty years, has practiced law here many years and actually lives in Yates County where she supports the community in many areas.

Bottom line, she has many positives to support. I am not interested in seeing my tax dollars support a Carpetbagger who is looking to triple his salary by making unethical and untrue statements from day one of his campaign.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/08/17 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Gassy, you caught me, If Ms. Gardner wins she will appoint me as an Assistant D.A. so I can practice law without a license. You wouldn't believe all the money I will make. smile

You need to go back and refresh your recollection as to why I am supporting her. It is clearly articulated in numerous posts.

Let me save you the trouble: Mr. Casella is an inexperienced lawyer about three years out of a tier four law school that earned a reputation for selling grades. He doesn't live in Yates County and has no connection to Yates County. He couldn't figure out what address to put on his petitions and complains that Ms. Gardner pulled a dirty trick on him to get him off the ballot, even though he also filed objections to her petitions. Problem is hers were done correctly, his were not.

He was recruited by some disgruntled old time republicans who are still upset for the first time in Yates County history she beat a republican running as an independent four years ago.

He started his campaign stating he was the only "true republican running". His registration history shows he was a registered democrat when he lived in queens for over three years, then registered as "no party" for one year before registering republican three years ago to get his job in Steuben county.

She has won the felony trials she prosecuted in county court, she kept her campaign promise to cut staff, saving the taxpayers 300,000. Her conviction rate is outstanding.

She has been registered republican in Yates County for over twenty years, has practiced law here many years and actually lives in Yates County where she supports the community in many areas.

Bottom line, she has many positives to support. I am not interested in seeing my tax dollars support a Carpetbagger who is looking to triple his salary by making unethical and untrue statements from day one of his campaign.
Gene didn't you choose to be a resident of Florida to avoid paying NYS taxes? You call Casella a carpet bagger when you are one yourself!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/08/17 10:22 PM

Gassy, I bought a home in Florida and took advantage of their "Homestead" program to get a break on my property taxes in Florida.

I had to give up my "STAR" exemption in NY to get that break.
I file a non-resident NY State income tax return each year because of the rental property I maintain in NY. I actually have to pay a fraction of one percent more in income tax because of my out of state status.

My state pension is not taxable in NY no matter where I claim residency. I don't like New York State's "SAFE" act or the fact that they require you to pay for a vehicle inspection every year, even for a brand new vehicle.

A "Carpetbagger" would be someone who moves from one jurisdiction to another so they are eligible to run for office or take a job. Nice try though!!! smile
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/09/17 11:53 AM

Hence the dealer plate. Makes sense.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/09/17 01:18 PM

My son's truck, his dealer plate. Authorized New York State dealer for many years. Let me know if you want a good used vehicle. He will fly to the auction and fix you up! smile
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/09/17 02:49 PM

How does that plate apply to you driving on it?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/09/17 09:43 PM

Or a legal Florida resident who is trying to influence an election they have no vested interest in!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/09/17 09:53 PM

I am a legally licensed driver. he can put his dealer plates on any vehicle in his book of registry.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/09/17 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Or a legal Florida resident who is trying to influence an election they have no vested interest in!



Gassy, I am flattered that you think I can "Influence an election". I might have more of a vested interest than you do seeing how I pay taxes on five places in Yates County.
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/14/17 04:28 PM

What is incomprehensible to me is how anyone could vote for a man who has only 3 years of legal experience to be the next DA. That is the dictionary definition of wet behind the ears. This is a most serious position and I do not want any inexperienced attorney to be my DA. Ask any attorney with at least a decade in the job how much he/she knew after just 3 years. Damn little. That's like asking a grape picker to become attorney general. And that is beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/14/17 07:23 PM

Digest this then. How bad of a job is the current DA doing that citizens are looking for an alternative? Attorneys in the area must know. Law enforcement in the area must know. Courts in the area must know. These are the things that make me scratch my head. Politics aside.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/14/17 09:53 PM

Digest this, Casella didn't just decide on his own to run in Yates County. He was recruited by a bunch of old school republicans who are still mad that their chosen one was defeated in the last District Attorney election. First time in Yates County history a republican lost a county wide race. Speaks volumes for the poor job the prior D.A. was doing.

He now has the job he coveted for the next ten years thanks to the good fortune of having two opponents. The majority of the voters in the last election didn't vote for our current judge.

His relatives and cohorts are now seeking revenge using the same PR firm and game plan the he used in the judge's race. The only difference is Casella is playing attack dog because he has no record to run on. He has been acting in an unethical manner from the onset.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/15/17 05:42 AM

Way to take the bait and show your true colors, Gene and show that your true motives are animosity for Cook. cry cry

How bad of a job is the current DA doing that citizens are looking for an alternative? Attorneys in the area must know. Law enforcement in the area must know. Courts in the area must know. Citizens just need to ask around. shocked
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/15/17 01:40 PM

No bait here chehead, I have made it abundantly clear in the past that I did not support him when he was D.A. His record of never winning a felony trial while D.A. spoke for itself. The fact that he dumped village court on his assistants and cut his appearances in Jerusalem town court showed he was not a very active D.A.

That is ancient history now, what I posted about Casella being "recruited" is not hard to figure out, Yates County is not very large. Its hard to hide the obvious.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/15/17 08:02 PM

Why is Gardner so afraid to let the voters decide the election? If she is doing such a fantastic job as you portray she should have nothing to worry about! LOL! Putting the Marchionda factor in this election is just a big negative for Gardner!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 08:38 AM

Gassy, you seemed to be obsessed with the "Marchionda's, last I knew they didn't have anything to do with the Criminal Justice system and how it operates.

I don't think Ms. Gardner is "afraid" to let the voters decide the election. She did the exact same thing that Casella did after the petitions were filed. They examined each others petitions to see if they were done properly. His objections went no where. Her review found fatal flaws in his petitions. Its routine political action taken by all candidates.

I would be upset if someone didn't check out an unknown candidate running for such a position. I remember years ago a well known ADA in Penn Yan was being urged by some in local Law Enforcement to run for District Attorney. Before that opportunity occurred it was discovered he stole money from an escrow account he had control over. He was arrested and pled guilty. to quote Forrest Gump, "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get". smile
Posted by: Timbo

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
What is incomprehensible to me is how anyone could vote for a man who has only 3 years of legal experience to be the next DA. That is the dictionary definition of wet behind the ears. This is a most serious position and I do not want any inexperienced attorney to be my DA. Ask any attorney with at least a decade in the job how much he/she knew after just 3 years. Damn little. That's like asking a grape picker to become attorney general. And that is beyond ridiculous.

Partly because DAs are often paid squat. Try finding experienced attorneys that want to work for such crappy wages.
Posted by: Blue_man

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 10:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Enigma3
What is incomprehensible to me is how anyone could vote for a man who has only 3 years of legal experience to be the next DA. That is the dictionary definition of wet behind the ears. This is a most serious position and I do not want any inexperienced attorney to be my DA. Ask any attorney with at least a decade in the job how much he/she knew after just 3 years. Damn little. That's like asking a grape picker to become attorney general. And that is beyond ridiculous.

Partly because DAs are often paid squat. Try finding experienced attorneys that want to work for such crappy wages.


Full time District Attorneys are paid appropriately $180,000.00 per year under NYS law. Same salary as county judges.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 10:52 AM

Yates County DA made $188,180 in 2017 according to SeeThroughNY website. Full time ADA made $69,092 and part-time ADA made $37,912. I don't think $188k is squat in this county.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 11:00 AM

As a taxpayer and a voter, if I hear from people that an elected official is not doing a good job, I try to gather facts for myself and make a decision on who to cast my vote for. Gene seems to be upset with the former DA for not handling cases in Penn Yan court. I think it is a valid point. The Penn Yan court would likely have the most volume being that Penn Yan in the most populated area in the county. That makes sense to me. Who handles the Penn Yan court now? Does the DA? Does the full time ADA? Does the part time ADA?
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 11:02 AM

I will go back to my cave now.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 09:59 PM

why the cave cheehead? I saw Ms. Gardner while working the football game this evening. BTW, great second half PY!!

I asked her about Village court. She turned the duties of Village court over to her ADA last year during the campaign for county judge. As you well know Judge Conlon is the presiding Village Justice and was also running for county judge. Ms. Gardner shifted things around so no one would perceive there were any issues at Village court with Justice Conlon.

She did handle Village court for over two years after first being elected. I suspect as she became more familiar with the demands of her new job that she has adjusted accordingly.

The prior D.A. did not do Village court on a regular basis, cut his appearances in T/Jerusalem court from four times a month to once a month and didn't win a felony jury trial his whole term. He also had one more Assistant D.A. than Ms. Gardner currently has. He insisted that he needed three ADA's when he was in charge.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 09:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Gassy, you seemed to be obsessed with the "Marchionda's, last I knew they didn't have anything to do with the Criminal Justice system and how it operates.

I don't think Ms. Gardner is "afraid" to let the voters decide the election. She did the exact same thing that Casella did after the petitions were filed. They examined each others petitions to see if they were done properly. His objections went no where. Her review found fatal flaws in his petitions. Its routine political action taken by all candidates.

I would be upset if someone didn't check out an unknown candidate running for such a position. I remember years ago a well known ADA in Penn Yan was being urged by some in local Law Enforcement to run for District Attorney. Before that opportunity occurred it was discovered he stole money from an escrow account he had control over. He was arrested and pled guilty. to quote Forrest Gump, "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get". smile
Not obsessed at all Gene! Your character is judged by the people you hang around with!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 10:03 PM

I see, I support Ms. Gardner but don't "hang around with her". I have never socialized with her other than occasional hellos and chatting. If politicians started doing background checks on those who supported them they wouldn't be in office long!!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I see, I support Ms. Gardner but don't "hang around with her". I have never socialized with her other than occasional hellos and chatting. If politicians started doing background checks on those who supported them they wouldn't be in office long!!
That's funny! You sticking up for the Marchionda's! Kind of hypocritical isn't it Gene! LOL!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/16/17 10:34 PM

I am sticking up for Ms. Gardner.

You seemed obsessed with the Marchionda's. If someone in that family has wronged you I can understand your being upset about it.

your angst toward Ms. Gardner because the "Marchionda's" have chosen to support her seems misplaced.
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/18/17 12:42 PM

It is my understanding that this desire to find another candidate to run against Ms Gardner is over a dispute between the Yates Co Sheriff's office and DA Gardner. Ms Gardner has declined to take some cases to trial from the Sheriff's department due to insufficient evidence. Not strong enough to take to trial. The Sheriff's people think the cases are trial worthy. Accusations are made on both sides and it escalates into a pissing match. The Sheriff's deputies then come out in support for the candidate wearing training wheels, the State Police follow due to one constant complainer and the Village PD stays neutral. In the meantime DA Gardner carries on while her office wins all felony cases brought to trial. So, is there a problem here? Or is this all a plot to take down a very good DA over tension between the Sheriff's office and the DA? Not much to see here. Time to move along. It will all work out in the end. And we won't have to worry about the competence of a 3rd year attorney still wearing training wheels.
Posted by: Helpme2

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 09:17 AM

Very well said Enigma 3. Not unusual for law enforcement agencies to dispute with a DA. Maybe Gassy should watch a few episodes of Law & Order, he might figure it out that way. Police arrest someone based on what they believe is sufficient evidence, in some cases it's faulty, or witnesses change their story., etc. A DA has to have the sense and back bone to say either get me more evidence, reduce the charges, or get the County sued by pursuing a case with no legs. The Training Wheel DA who lives somewhere in Steuben County is being sued for Malicious Prosecution. Anybody who attended the event in Potter knows Casella needed an escort to his car to avoid the person trying to serve him. Funny how our slam bang press has done no homework on this character.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 01:11 PM

Now this is getting juicy, let's hear more about this dispute! This is starting to sound like a TV soap opera. If paid professionals are calling each other out in pissing matches that would be good TV. Maybe an episode of to tell the truth?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Helpme2
Very well said Enigma 3. Not unusual for law enforcement agencies to dispute with a DA. Maybe Gassy should watch a few episodes of Law & Order, he might figure it out that way. Police arrest someone based on what they believe is sufficient evidence, in some cases it's faulty, or witnesses change their story., etc. A DA has to have the sense and back bone to say either get me more evidence, reduce the charges, or get the County sued by pursuing a case with no legs. The Training Wheel DA who lives somewhere in Steuben County is being sued for Malicious Prosecution. Anybody who attended the event in Potter knows Casella needed an escort to his car to avoid the person trying to serve him. Funny how our slam bang press has done no homework on this character.







The sole job of a prosecutor is to see that justice is done. Although the prosecutors work with and have a lot of contact with Law Enforcement, they are separate entities. The police arrest on probable cause or warrant. They are trained in basic school not to get hung up on how their arrests get disposed of in court. Some officers have a hard time with that. Residents should be concerned if police unions endorse a particular candidate for District Attorney. It can give the impression a candidate's judgment could be clouded when making a decision in dispostion of certain cases.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 07:13 PM

I'm sure the police academy is much different than when you were there mean gene. How do you have so much expertise and knowledge of what the police are being taught? Did you ever teach at one?
Maybe its just me but I would want a cop that actually gives a crap about my problems and would work hard to fix them. Seems silly right? As far as unions, who better knows how things are working or not working than those who do it for a living. This isn't the old days.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 07:49 PM

I heard thru the grapevine that the Penn Yan Village Police have unofficially endorsed Casella following in the foot steps of their former Chief who just retired, the State Police and the Yates County Sheriff's Department have already endorsed Casella. Spokesmen from each agency all agree that Casella is a smart, honest prosecutor who has a superior court record, and they all stated Gardner's job performance isn't in the best interest of society therefore they can't and won't endorse her.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 08:38 PM

I wonder what is going on with the current DA that people think anyone else would be a better choice. These are the things that make me scratch my head. The current DA seemed to have a lot of support in the last DA race, but took a big hit in the polls in the judge's race. That seemed odd for the sitting DA to lose the race for the bench to the one she beat for DA. Her staff seemed to have turned over some too. I can't seem to wrap my head around it all. I am missing something. I can't figure it out.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
I heard thru the grapevine that the Penn Yan Village Police have unofficially endorsed Casella following in the foot steps of their former Chief who just retired, the State Police and the Yates County Sheriff's Department have already endorsed Casella. Spokesmen from each agency all agree that Casella is a smart, honest prosecutor who has a superior court record, and they all stated Gardner's job performance isn't in the best interest of society therefore they can't and won't endorse her.






You also heard that Casella was going to win his appeal to get back on the primary ballot. Maybe your hearing is going?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/19/17 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
I'm sure the police academy is much different than when you were there mean gene. How do you have so much expertise and knowledge of what the police are being taught? Did you ever teach at one?
Maybe its just me but I would want a cop that actually gives a crap about my problems and would work hard to fix them. Seems silly right? As far as unions, who better knows how things are working or not working than those who do it for a living. This isn't the old days.




The Academy is longer but not a huge change from when I went. They still teach you to do your job and not get hung up on the prosecutors job. I have done some instructing, but not at the Academy. Never volunteered to, kinda hard in a small department to dedicate someone for a block of time. I knew the course content of the Academy when I retired 8 years ago.

You are correct, police are suppose to respond to complaints and address problems if possible, that includes making arrests and referring paperwork to the District Attorney's office. There has been no change that requires police to help the D.A. with disposing of cases.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 06:52 AM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
I wonder what is going on with the current DA that people think anyone else would be a better choice. These are the things that make me scratch my head. The current DA seemed to have a lot of support in the last DA race, but took a big hit in the polls in the judge's race. That seemed odd for the sitting DA to lose the race for the bench to the one she beat for DA. Her staff seemed to have turned over some too. I can't seem to wrap my head around it all. I am missing something. I can't figure it out.
Not a very good bar dancer! LOL!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 09:05 AM

Apparently Casella isn't a very good attorney if he couldn't figure out what his address was. Three different addresses?

If he can't figure out the simple things he surely will have trouble running an office where there are important things to do!

The question is will anyone hold him accountable for falsely filing paperwork with the county? Last I knew that was a felony in the Penal Law. Maybe he could claim ignorance and no intent!
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 10:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene

The question is will anyone hold him accountable for falsely filing paperwork with the county? Last I knew that was a felony in the Penal Law. Maybe he could claim ignorance and no intent!


If you think he did something unethical and you have access to public court filings that show it, why don't you file a grievance with the NYS Attorneys ethics board?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Apparently Casella isn't a very good attorney if he couldn't figure out what his address was. Three different addresses?

If he can't figure out the simple things he surely will have trouble running an office where there are important things to do!

The question is will anyone hold him accountable for falsely filing paperwork with the county? Last I knew that was a felony in the Penal Law. Maybe he could claim ignorance and no intent!
The three addresses is a bunch of crap!He lived at one address when he made out the paperwork but moved to another! Honest mistake! But for some reason Gardner & Marchionda are afraid to let the voters decide the election!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Hot Burrito
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene

The question is will anyone hold him accountable for falsely filing paperwork with the county? Last I knew that was a felony in the Penal Law. Maybe he could claim ignorance and no intent!


If you think he did something unethical and you have access to public court filings that show it, why don't you file a grievance with the NYS Attorneys ethics board?



I did that many years ago, they will take the complaint and assign it to their "Investigator". (who is an attorney) He gives the information he gathers to the ethics board who decides on the merits of the complaint. (all attorneys) Before they make a decision they will check with the attorney about the complaint filed. He will then give the board his attorney reasoning (argument) of why he did what he did. They will then decide there is no conflict or wrong doing. (unless there is clear proof he committed an axe murder) Its called attorney's protecting attorneys!!!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 02:07 PM

Gassy, I see you have attempted to explain away the address issue. Please advise what the reason was for the third address that was used.

You are using Casella's talking points, Ms. Gardner did the same thing that Casella did. Reviewed Petitions to see if they met the legal standard. Casella's objections went nowhere because Ms. Gardners petitions were correct. His were legally fatal. Has nothing to do with being "afraid" of letting the voters decide. They still get to decide.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 04:35 PM

Who was the man who was arrested for Valerie's petitions? People say he is Valerie's neighbor. I have also heard that he was the paralegal at the offIce that Valerie sold her law practice to on Main Street. I know this is a small town but that is very close association. It strikes me as odd that all the associations and it does not involve Valerie. This also makes me scratch my head.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 05:29 PM

cheehead, you are scratching your head because you are throwing out things that are not accurate.

Ms. Gardner did not suggest that Mr. Fletcher hire Mr.Galvin. BTW Mr. Galvin, after investigation was found to have forged six different candidates petitions over three different election years. Ms. Gardner called the State Police to investigate when she was told there was a issue with a petition he passed of hers. It was later discovered by the State Police that there were multiple candidates petitions forged by Mr. Galvin over three election cycles.

He pled guilty to a felony and the State Police Investigation clearly showed that Ms. Gardner had no knowledge that he was forging names on petitions. yet Mr. Casella tried to make this an issue when right away when he announced his run. As I said previously he started his campaign with outright lies and unethical behavior and continues on that track.

I know where Ms. Gardner lives, I also know where Mr. Galvin lives. They are not neighbors unless you consider living in the same Village as being neighbors!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Gassy, I see you have attempted to explain away the address issue. Please advise what the reason was for the third address that was used.

You are using Casella's talking points, Ms. Gardner did the same thing that Casella did. Reviewed Petitions to see if they met the legal standard. Casella's objections went nowhere because Ms. Gardners petitions were correct. His were legally fatal. Has nothing to do with being "afraid" of letting the voters decide. They still get to decide.
It was used for storage! They don't get to decide on the GOP ticket!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 05:36 PM

YATES COUNTY SHERIFF’S UNION ENDORSES TODD CASELLA FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY

(Penn Yan, NY) The Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union has endorsed Todd Casella in this year’s campaign for Yates County District Attorney. The organization represents the Road Patrol and Criminal Investigations Division of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office.

In their letter of endorsement, Yates County COPS President Frank Ryan and Vice President Patrick Manahan said, “After careful consideration, we extend our endorsement to you in your candidacy for the position of District Attorney in Yates County. The position of District Attorney is an important part of the legal system that requires committed, and devoted enforcement of the law as well as compassion for the people we serve. Open and honest communications with all levels of law enforcement are essential to best serving the people of Yates County.”

“I am honored and humbled that the brave men and women of the Yates County Sherriff’s Office voted to endorse me to be the next Yates County District Attorney. No one knows better than them how important it is for a D.A. to have my commitment to justice, my dedication to work with law enforcement, and my passion for this important work,” said Mr. Casella. “It is clear they are ready for a change and I look forward to working closely with them to serve the great People of Yates County if elected.”

This important endorsement follow’s Mr. Casella previous law enforcement backing by the Police Benevolent Association of the New York State Troopers, which represents State Police in Yates County and throughout New York.

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7, 2017. Mr Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Apparently Casella isn't a very good attorney if he couldn't figure out what his address was. Three different addresses?

If he can't figure out the simple things he surely will have trouble running an office where there are important things to do!

The question is will anyone hold him accountable for falsely filing paperwork with the county? Last I knew that was a felony in the Penal Law. Maybe he could claim ignorance and no intent!
The three addresses is a bunch of crap!He lived at one address when he made out the paperwork but moved to another! Honest mistake! But for some reason Gardner & Marchionda are afraid to let the voters decide the election!



Casella never moved during the petition process. He moved from 115 Pultney st. (the residence he claimed on his petitions) in November of 2016. After he found out the address was an issue he tried to move back in, broke his one year lease at the house he was living at and had to wait for tenants in the apartment to leave. He moved back in two days before the hearing to try and cure his fatal defect. The four judges at the Appelate division saw it as a sham and ruled it illegal. (Casella's sworn testimony documents all this)

How would you like to be a defendant and have Casella prosecuting you knowing he will do or say anything to try and win? Worse yet, advising law enforcement on what they need to do and say in a court case. He apparently has a win at all cost mentality.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
YATES COUNTY SHERIFF’S UNION ENDORSES TODD CASELLA FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY

(Penn Yan, NY) The Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union has endorsed Todd Casella in this year’s campaign for Yates County District Attorney. The organization represents the Road Patrol and Criminal Investigations Division of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office.

In their letter of endorsement, Yates County COPS President Frank Ryan and Vice President Patrick Manahan said, “After careful consideration, we extend our endorsement to you in your candidacy for the position of District Attorney in Yates County. The position of District Attorney is an important part of the legal system that requires committed, and devoted enforcement of the law as well as compassion for the people we serve. Open and honest communications with all levels of law enforcement are essential to best serving the people of Yates County.”

“I am honored and humbled that the brave men and women of the Yates County Sherriff’s Office voted to endorse me to be the next Yates County District Attorney. No one knows better than them how important it is for a D.A. to have my commitment to justice, my dedication to work with law enforcement, and my passion for this important work,” said Mr. Casella. “It is clear they are ready for a change and I look forward to working closely with them to serve the great People of Yates County if elected.”

This important endorsement follow’s Mr. Casella previous law enforcement backing by the Police Benevolent Association of the New York State Troopers, which represents State Police in Yates County and throughout New York.

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7, 2017. Mr Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.




Wow! That is a big development. I will have to mull over this.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Apparently Casella isn't a very good attorney if he couldn't figure out what his address was. Three different addresses?

If he can't figure out the simple things he surely will have trouble running an office where there are important things to do!

The question is will anyone hold him accountable for falsely filing paperwork with the county? Last I knew that was a felony in the Penal Law. Maybe he could claim ignorance and no intent!
The three addresses is a bunch of crap!He lived at one address when he made out the paperwork but moved to another! Honest mistake! But for some reason Gardner & Marchionda are afraid to let the voters decide the election!



Casella never moved during the petition process. He moved from 115 Pultney st. (the residence he claimed on his petitions) in November of 2016. After he found out the address was an issue he tried to move back in, broke his one year lease at the house he was living at and had to wait for tenants in the apartment to leave. He moved back in two days before the hearing to try and cure his fatal defect. The four judges at the Appelate division saw it as a sham and ruled it illegal. (Casella's sworn testimony documents all this)

How would you like to be a defendant and have Casella prosecuting you knowing he will do or say anything to try and win? Worse yet, advising law enforcement on what they need to do and say in a court case. He apparently has a win at all cost mentality.


Is that what husband of Valerie's secretary said? That seems to be another odd coincidence but who knows.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 06:48 PM

You seem to be the only one acting odd chee head, the short answer to your question is Casella said it under oath when he testified in court.

I heard Casella had been lobbying the Sheriff's union pretty heavily. They voted not to endorse then later on voted to endorse. LE should be neutral for the position of District Attorney. All this does is gives Joe Q citizen a reason to be concerned that arresting officers are too cozy with the person who reviews their cases to see how and if they should be pursued.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 06:55 PM

Tell us what Casella said in court Gene. I hope it is a first hand account..
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/20/17 07:49 PM

OK so that is two out of the three. Should be interesting to see if the Penn yan police step up and voice their opinion?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/21/17 05:44 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
YATES COUNTY SHERIFF’S UNION ENDORSES TODD CASELLA FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY

(Penn Yan, NY) The Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union has endorsed Todd Casella in this year’s campaign for Yates County District Attorney. The organization represents the Road Patrol and Criminal Investigations Division of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office.

In their letter of endorsement, Yates County COPS President Frank Ryan and Vice President Patrick Manahan said, “After careful consideration, we extend our endorsement to you in your candidacy for the position of District Attorney in Yates County. The position of District Attorney is an important part of the legal system that requires committed, and devoted enforcement of the law as well as compassion for the people we serve. Open and honest communications with all levels of law enforcement are essential to best serving the people of Yates County.”

“I am honored and humbled that the brave men and women of the Yates County Sherriff’s Office voted to endorse me to be the next Yates County District Attorney. No one knows better than them how important it is for a D.A. to have my commitment to justice, my dedication to work with law enforcement, and my passion for this important work,” said Mr. Casella. “It is clear they are ready for a change and I look forward to working closely with them to serve the great People of Yates County if elected.”

This important endorsement follow’s Mr. Casella previous law enforcement backing by the Police Benevolent Association of the New York State Troopers, which represents State Police in Yates County and throughout New York.

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7, 2017. Mr Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.
Well that tells it all not one decent law enforcement officer is backing Gardner in Yates County, Val has had almost 4 years to prove she could handle the job but she has failed and now it's time to go away. Gardner has been a terrible District Attorney who has disgraced the District Attorney's office and let down the citizens of Yates county, Todd Casella is a good honest family man who will bring integrity back to the District Attorney's office.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/21/17 08:58 AM

To quote Albert Einstein: "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters"

Mr. Casella has engaged in unethical behavior from the onset of his campaign. His initial mailing was an all out attack. He should have been promoting his three years experience as a lawyer instead of attacking his opponent and throwing out lies.

Police Unions should remain neutral in elections involving the position of District Attorney. The police enforce the law, its a well founded principal they don't get to decide the punishment once their cases are sent to the District Attorney.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/21/17 09:22 AM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
Tell us what Casella said in court Gene. I hope it is a first hand account..



If you want a first hand account get a transcript of his testimony.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/21/17 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
OK so that is two out of the three. Should be interesting to see if the Penn yan police step up and voice their opinion?



The subject of endorsing candidates for Judge and District Attorney had come up numerous times in past years at the Penn Yan PBA. It was always decided that the Police Union would not get involved in politics regarding those positions.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/21/17 07:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
To quote Albert Einstein: "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters"

Mr. Casella has engaged in unethical behavior from the onset of his campaign. His initial mailing was an all out attack. He should have been promoting his three years experience as a lawyer instead of attacking his opponent and throwing out lies.

Police Unions should remain neutral in elections involving the position of District Attorney. The police enforce the law, its a well founded principal they don't get to decide the punishment once their cases are sent to the District Attorney.
Actually police unions are the best source of information! They deal with the DA on a daily basis! They know what kind of job she is doing?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/22/17 08:11 AM

I am glad you put a question mark at the end of your statement.

Police actually don't deal with the DA on a daily basis. When they write traffic tickets and make misdemeanor arrests they put together a "DA packet" and send it to the DA's office. They generally would not hear from the DA unless there was a question about the paperwork they submitted.

On felony arrests they would have contact if there were a preliminary hearing scheduled or if the case was going to be presented to a Grand Jury.

The police arrest people, its not their function to become involved in disposition of cases. That is up to the DA and defense attorney's in the overwhelming majority of cases.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/22/17 11:40 AM

Gardner's last supporter made a call to Bob Lounsberry talk show this morning claiming Gardner has saved taxpayers money backfired in her face, Bob explained that he attended the Scope party at the firemen's field and he was told by many Scope members that Casella was the one that they were backing because Val was unfit to hold the office of District Attorney.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/22/17 02:47 PM

Sorry helpme, have to take what you say with a grain of salt. I have read an email from one "SCOPE" member who pretends to say he is trying to be unbiased, then goes on in the email with incorrect information that someone fed him or he was intentionally lying. How long is Casella going to try and play the "she is afraid of me card".

Has he ever owned up or given a reasonable explanation why he used three different addresses when filing paperwork with the county? Apparently the tale he tried to spin in court didn't work!
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/22/17 04:59 PM

I do hereby declare that helpme and gassy one are both unfit to judge any candidate for county office. These two would ask an elementary school teacher with 3 years of service to become principal of the school! You two spew the irrationality of the absurd. It's like reading a comic book.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/22/17 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I am glad you put a question mark at the end of your statement.

Police actually don't deal with the DA on a daily basis. When they write traffic tickets and make misdemeanor arrests they put together a "DA packet" and send it to the DA's office. They generally would not hear from the DA unless there was a question about the paperwork they submitted.

On felony arrests they would have contact if there were a preliminary hearing scheduled or if the case was going to be presented to a Grand Jury.

The police arrest people, its not their function to become involved in disposition of cases. That is up to the DA and defense attorney's in the overwhelming majority of cases.
The police know if they have a good case Gene who you trying to fool and whether the DA is doing her job correctly or out dancing on bar tops!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/22/17 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
I do hereby declare that helpme and gassy one are both unfit to judge any candidate for county office. These two would ask an elementary school teacher with 3 years of service to become principal of the school! You two spew the irrationality of the absurd. It's like reading a comic book.
In your opinion which don't amount to crap!I would rather take the three year teacher! They don't have as many establishment butts to kiss to get the job!
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 03:16 AM

I am on the fence.

Casella is new and energetic yet not truly experienced. The address stuff was troubling at first to me, but his explanation makes sense to me now. That being said, still a 'rookie' mistake.

From people who see the current DA's in action, I hear some troubling things. Those things concern me as well. Some say, how much worse can it get? That is very troubling to me.

So on the fence I sit hoping for the facts to aid my decision.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 07:20 AM

cheehead, Ms. Gardner is an upgrade from the previous D.A. She entered her first term with no support or assistance from the outgoing D.A. The prior D.A. only tried two felony cases his first term and didn't win either of them. I believe she has tried three felony cases and won them all.

She kept her promise of making the office more efficent by asking the legislature to eliminate a full time ADA position. (Something the outgoing D.A. didn't want to do and the legislature agreed with him at the time)

Once she entered office the position was eliminated and the taxpayers have saved $300,000 so far, with those savings continuing to add up every year.

Her conviction rate is outstanding, (second in the state for DWI convictions) she is a long time resident who is involved in the community. Her opponent has no connection to Yates County. She now has the experience of running that office along with running her own office prior to being elected.

I would like to see you get off that fence before you get hemorroids!! smile
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 10:39 AM

So, the question remains. Why don't those sworn to enforce the law support her, this doesn't make any sense to me.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 10:58 AM

Unfortunately Gene, your Achilles heal seems to always reveal your disdain for Cook. People should be over it, he is the judge.

I am looking at the current DA on her own merits and weighing whether Casella is a better option. When people ask whether it can worse with a new DA; that draws my concern. His lack of experience is also draws my concern.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 12:43 PM

Experience is gained through hard work and perseverance. Willingness to tackle any task at hand. How many years someone has in a job doesn't always reflect that they are good at it.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
Experience is gained through hard work and perseverance. Willingness to tackle any task at hand. How many years someone has in a job doesn't always reflect that they are good at it.
Exactly!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
So, the question remains. Why don't those sworn to enforce the law support her, this doesn't make any sense to me.
She has no support from law enforcement which is a big red flag!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 04:01 PM

Gardner claims she has more than 20 years experience as a prosecutor, than why does Casella have more trials then her over 600 and 40 of those were felony trials in just 3 years? Something isn't adding up and it's Gardner's overall experience.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
Unfortunately Gene, your Achilles heal seems to always reveal your disdain for Cook. People should be over it, he is the judge.

I am looking at the current DA on her own merits and weighing whether Casella is a better option. When people ask whether it can worse with a new DA; that draws my concern. His lack of experience is also draws my concern.




Cheehead, you are not fooling anyone, you have been supporting Casella from the get go. To answer your previous question, you threw out the question of being on the fence. Well, I gave you a comparison to the former DA without mentioning his name. If you are truly trying to figure a benchmark for comparison, the best comparision would be to the previous DA. Its called apples to apples.

I think you and your friends need to "get over it", recruiting Casella by disgruntled Cook friends and family is what you are all about.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Gardner claims she has more than 20 years experience as a prosecutor, than why does Casella have more trials then her over 600 and 40 of those were felony trials in just 3 years? Something isn't adding up and it's Gardner's overall experience.




If you really believe everything he says, be careful he may try and sell you something!!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
Gardner claims she has more than 20 years experience as a prosecutor, than why does Casella have more trials then her over 600 and 40 of those were felony trials in just 3 years? Something isn't adding up and it's Gardner's overall experience.




If you really believe everything he says, be careful he may try and sell you something!!
MG let me correct myself Casella has prosecuted 4,000 cases 600 which were felonies and 40 trials.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: cheesehead
Unfortunately Gene, your Achilles heal seems to always reveal your disdain for Cook. People should be over it, he is the judge.

I am looking at the current DA on her own merits and weighing whether Casella is a better option. When people ask whether it can worse with a new DA; that draws my concern. His lack of experience is also draws my concern.




Cheehead, you are not fooling anyone, you have been supporting Casella from the get go. To answer your previous question, you threw out the question of being on the fence. Well, I gave you a comparison to the former DA without mentioning his name. If you are truly trying to figure a benchmark for comparison, the best comparision would be to the previous DA. Its called apples to apples.

I think you and your friends need to "get over it", recruiting Casella by disgruntled Cook friends and family is what you are all about.


My decision will be made on Election Day. Until then I am open for discussion on the DA race.

Listening to Gene's ego through his rants amuses me.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 08:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
Gardner claims she has more than 20 years experience as a prosecutor, than why does Casella have more trials then her over 600 and 40 of those were felony trials in just 3 years? Something isn't adding up and it's Gardner's overall experience.




If you really believe everything he says, be careful he may try and sell you something!!



helpme, go to the Steuben county website. Do a little reading. Ten ADA's and the DA working there. the DCJS website shows 8133 adult arrests in the last four years in Steuben county. Casella doesn't work any city courts or DWI cases and he is a junior ADA. They have a dedicated ADA doing DWI's and they have a horrible 55% conviction rate on those. He is probably listing all the traffic tickets issued the last four years for his numbers. There is no way he has the felony trial numbers he is claiming.

Casella also had an indictment dismissed for misconduct, went back and got a second indictment and the defendant was promptly acquitted at trial. If he is handling HALF of all the arrests in the county, what are the other 10 prosecutors doing? Ask him to substantiate all the numbers he is claiming, he won't do it because he is not credible.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/23/17 09:37 PM

Gene tell us why she has no support from law enforcement?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 07:12 AM

I can only give you my perception. When she ran last time she didn't have any union "support" from law enforcement. My experience over the years was neither the Deputies union or the Penn Yan PBA has endorsed candidates for the District Attorney position.

I don't believe she asked or expected either union to come out and support her. There are some, myself included who have always felt the public perception of a DA's office and the police functioning as one, instead of separate entities (as they are) would make some feel uncomfortable.

I know your statement of "No support" is inaccurate. A union majority vote doesn't speak for all unless they had 100 percent attendance at their meeting and it was a unanimous vote.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 08:28 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Gene tell us why she has no support from law enforcement?
Law enforcement officers from Steuben County have praised Casella's job performance as one of the County's ADA, they have "joked" about coming to Yates County to campaign for Gardner because they don't want to lose him to Yates County. The also call him "Johnnie on the spot" because he always comes to their aid went needed and it doesn't matter if it's at 230 in the morning. They also claim Casella will tell them why he won't charge or prosecute a defendant if it's a bad arrest or if he believes that defendant is innocent, they respect him for his honestly and that's why Yates County Law Enforcement Agencies endorsed him because he is the real McCoy.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 08:50 AM

helpme, yes I heard Casella solicited some Steuben deputies to help convince Yates to endorse him. I don't doubt he has been "Johnny on the spot" for them. He is a junior D.A. in that office. Anyone new to a job wants to make an impression.

Someone needs to remind him of the following quote he probably forgot about. "The sole job of a prosecutor is to see that justice is done."

Its not to cater to Law enforcement or the public. Police arrest on probable cause. Its the DA's job to review the information presented and decide how to proceed. If that process consists of telling an officer more information or evidence is needed they need to do that.

Every officer needs to sit in county court and listen to a judge charge a jury regarding "Reasonable doubt" before deliberations. It is an awakening experience and a standard a prosecutor knows they have to meet if they take someone to trial. The first time I saw it done I had a greater appreciation of my job expectations as an Investigator.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 09:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
helpme, yes I heard Casella solicited some Steuben deputies to help convince Yates to endorse him. I don't doubt he has been "Johnny on the spot" for them. He is a junior D.A. in that office. Anyone new to a job wants to make an impression.

Someone needs to remind him of the following quote he probably forgot about. "The sole job of a prosecutor is to see that justice is done."

Its not to cater to Law enforcement or the public. Police arrest on probable cause. Its the DA's job to review the information presented and decide how to proceed. If that process consists of telling an officer more information or evidence is needed they need to do that.

Every officer needs to sit in county court and listen to a judge charge a jury regarding "Reasonable doubt" before deliberations. It is an awakening experience and a standard a prosecutor knows they have to meet if they take someone to trial. The first time I saw it done I had a greater appreciation of my job expectations as an Investigator.
Yes MG I agree and Casella has those qualifications and has applied them and that's the reasons why "ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES" have endorsed him.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 11:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Every officer needs to sit in county court and listen to a judge charge a jury regarding "Reasonable doubt" before deliberations. It is an awakening experience and a standard a prosecutor knows they have to meet if they take someone to trial. The first time I saw it done I had a greater appreciation of my job expectations as an Investigator.


This sounds like some good input. Thanks, MG.

I would like to see both candidates in action. Talk is cheap by everyone.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 11:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I can only give you my perception. When she ran last time she didn't have any union "support" from law enforcement. My experience over the years was neither the Deputies union or the Penn Yan PBA has endorsed candidates for the District Attorney position.

I don't believe she asked or expected either union to come out and support her. There are some, myself included who have always felt the public perception of a DA's office and the police functioning as one, instead of separate entities (as they are) would make some feel uncomfortable.

I know your statement of "No support" is inaccurate. A union majority vote doesn't speak for all unless they had 100 percent attendance at their meeting and it was a unanimous vote.



My point is if LE doesn't support her and she wins that's not a very constructive relationship!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 03:44 PM

Exactly a reason LE should not get involved in endorsing a candidate for this position.

I would bet dollars to donuts if you asked every deputy who voted to endorse Casella, if they personally had a case the DA handled where they were upset with the disposition they would be hard pressed to answer.

Her conviction rate is verifiable, outstanding and accurate for all felony cases and DWI cases. Her opponent has thrown out numbers that indicate he handled FIFTY percent of Steuben counties case load the last four years while the other TEN prosecutors split the other fifty percent. absurd!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 04:11 PM

Without the backing of LE she's done before she starts! VOTE CASELLA!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 05:18 PM

Gee I wonder who you support Gassy? I think whoever wins will have the support of the majority of people who vote.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Gee I wonder who you support Gassy? I think whoever wins will have the support of the majority of people who vote.
That's a real tough concept to grasp Gene! LOL!
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 07:46 PM

Hey Gassy,

Isn't it true that Ms. Gardner has a tried and true record?? She has done an outstanding job for the people of Yates County...Why would we want some young unknown to come here...He is not vested in this community..Meanwhile, I see Ms Gardner at many local events supporting the people of this community...She is gold for Yates County...
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 07:50 PM

MG, Gardner claims she has more than 21 years experience as a prosecutor but has gone to trial only 15 times, what she fails to tell the public is that 16 years of those 21 years she was the prosecutor in Juvenile Court where she had less then 300 cases and no trials. The only other prosecutor job she has ever had besides her present one was a part time Yates County ADA position that she was forced to resign because she tried to interfere in a arrest , the only record Gardner has is a bad one.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/24/17 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: French Pastry
Hey Gassy,

Isn't it true that Ms. Gardner has a tried and true record?? She has done an outstanding job for the people of Yates County...Why would we want some young unknown to come here...He is not vested in this community..Meanwhile, I see Ms Gardner at many local events supporting the people of this community...She is gold for Yates County...
In your opinion which you have a right to!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/25/17 07:29 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
MG, Gardner claims she has more than 21 years experience as a prosecutor but has gone to trial only 15 times, what she fails to tell the public is that 16 years of those 21 years she was the prosecutor in Juvenile Court where she had less then 300 cases and no trials. The only other prosecutor job she has ever had besides her present one was a part time Yates County ADA position that she was forced to resign because she tried to interfere in a arrest , the only record Gardner has is a bad one.




helpme, you tried using that BS the first time Ms. Gardner ran for DA. Its a bold face lie. I fact checked you back then. Maybe you should be doing some checking on the former ADA who left Yates and went to Seneca county. That might give you some insight on who might have been involved in nudging the Deputies union to endorse Casella.
Posted by: sarge1m19

Re: Casella for DA - 09/25/17 05:00 PM

No one nudges the deputies union to do anything. The deputies union does what the deputies feel is best. I'd thank you to keep your expert opinion on union matters to yourself unless you have first hand information which you don't because you are not a member.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/25/17 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
MG, Gardner claims she has more than 21 years experience as a prosecutor but has gone to trial only 15 times, what she fails to tell the public is that 16 years of those 21 years she was the prosecutor in Juvenile Court where she had less then 300 cases and no trials. The only other prosecutor job she has ever had besides her present one was a part time Yates County ADA position that she was forced to resign because she tried to interfere in a arrest , the only record Gardner has is a bad one.




helpme, you tried using that BS the first time Ms. Gardner ran for DA. Its a bold face lie. I fact checked you back then. Maybe you should be doing some checking on the former ADA who left Yates and went to Seneca county. That might give you some insight on who might have been involved in nudging the Deputies union to endorse Casella.
MG please detail Gardner's history as a prosecutor year by year for last 21 years.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/25/17 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: sarge1m19
No one nudges the deputies union to do anything. The deputies union does what the deputies feel is best. I'd thank you to keep your expert opinion on union matters to yourself unless you have first hand information which you don't because you are not a member.
I guess he told u.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/25/17 10:49 PM

Originally Posted By: sarge1m19
No one nudges the deputies union to do anything. The deputies union does what the deputies feel is best. I'd thank you to keep your expert opinion on union matters to yourself unless you have first hand information which you don't because you are not a member.



Well you are right, I can't have any "first hand information" because I don't go to your union meetings. smile
Sarge, are you telling me Steuben deputies didn't give you their glowing opinion of how they liked Casella to help you change your mind?
How about the former ADA that left and went to Seneca County? You don't think that situation might have come into play with a union official?
Could there be some latent sexism coming into play here?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 08:11 AM

YCSD is going to be knocking on your door!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 09:54 AM

LE are always welcome at my door!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 02:37 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
MG, Gardner claims she has more than 21 years experience as a prosecutor but has gone to trial only 15 times, what she fails to tell the public is that 16 years of those 21 years she was the prosecutor in Juvenile Court where she had less then 300 cases and no trials. The only other prosecutor job she has ever had besides her present one was a part time Yates County ADA position that she was forced to resign because she tried to interfere in a arrest , the only record Gardner has is a bad one.




helpme, you tried using that BS the first time Ms. Gardner ran for DA. Its a bold face lie. I fact checked you back then. Maybe you should be doing some checking on the former ADA who left Yates and went to Seneca county. That might give you some insight on who might have been involved in nudging the Deputies union to endorse Casella.
MG please detail Gardner's history as a prosecutor year by year for last 21 years.
MG, How about it do you plan on answering the question or don't you want the public to know that Casella has more experience that Gardner?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 05:14 PM

Gee helpme, I don't have a blow by blow of every year. She has tried multiple cases in county court and won them all. The latest this week when the guy pled out just before the trial started. (The previous DA tried two cases during his term and lost them both)

She ran her own private practice along while being in charge of JD intake and prosecutions for many years. Was an ADA before becoming District Attorney. She has been in charge of the DA's
office for over three years. Saved the taxpayers over $300,000, said savings continue to grow every year.

Her office is second in the whole state for DWI conviction rates. The violent crime rate has gone down the past three years in Yates County.

Why don't you call the Steuben County DA and find out what Casella's true case load has been. There is no way he handled fifty percent of all the criminal cases in Steuben county the last three years while the other ten prosecutors split up the other fifty percent. Casella is just what Yates doesn't need, a junior ADA, who has never run a private practice or office and has trouble telling the truth. Bad for the residents of Yates County.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 05:53 PM

New report out by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services report states what counties where violent crime murder, rapes and assault also burglary that went up the most last year, Yates was number 11 out of 24, crimes per capita change +90, crimes committed change +21, population change -128. MG is pushing fake news which he got from Gardner.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 07:25 PM

I was a firm supporter of Valerie's campaign against Cook for DA. Cook seemed to stop campaigning after the primary and she bolstered on. I was not impressed with him as DA and believed what she had to say.

After she took office I started to loose faith in her. She seemed to associate with riff raff and the whole singIng in a band at bars thing was troublesome. She seemed to be treading water professionally. Her staff started leaving. I am not sure who is left in her office.

In the race for judge, Cook was the better choice for judge for me. He seemed more honest and reputable. He got my vote then.

Now for the DA race I am not sure. Her record is one thing and what people actually see and say are different.

Gene may sway my opinion before November. He supports her because he dislikes Cook. I know she reads this stuff. Where is she to sway me not her mouthpiece?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
New report out by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services report states what counties where violent crime murder, rapes and assault also burglary that went up the most last year, Yates was number 11 out of 24, crimes per capita change +90, crimes committed change +21, population change -128. MG is pushing fake news which he got from Gardner.



I quoted "Violent crimes" from the stats DCJS sent me. They only listed one year online. I had to send them an email to get the last three years. As I stated Violent crimes are and have been few in Yates County. I didn't get any numbers from Ms. Gardner. helpme I am still waiting for you to get an answer from your man how it is he handles fifty percent of all the cases in Steuben county by himself. That is the Fake news!!!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/26/17 10:41 PM

cheehead, I supported her because Cooks record as DA was pathetic. When you get to pick and choose what cases you are going to try and still lose them, that is an issue. In his case he chose to try two felony cases in county court and lost them both. I would call it "dislike" for the job he did, not personal dislike.

She has won every case she has tried in county court since being elected. You can't compare job performance without comparing hers to his one term. Its apples to apples.

I think Cook lost four assistants while he was DA. How many has Ms. Gardner lost? The only one I am aware of who left did so to avoid an ethics issue because of a personal relationship. That situation was clear to many.

You really think Ms. Gardner would hop on here and banter with a bunch of anonymous people who can say whatever they want to?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/27/17 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
New report out by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services report states what counties where violent crime murder, rapes and assault also burglary that went up the most last year, Yates was number 11 out of 24, crimes per capita change +90, crimes committed change +21, population change -128. MG is pushing fake news which he got from Gardner.



I quoted "Violent crimes" from the stats DCJS sent me. They only listed one year online. I had to send them an email to get the last three years. As I stated Violent crimes are and have been few in Yates County. I didn't get any numbers from Ms. Gardner. helpme I am still waiting for you to get an answer from your man how it is he handles fifty percent of all the cases in Steuben county by himself. That is the Fake news!!!
MG you sound like Gardner always blaming someone for your screw-ups and lies claiming it wasn't my fault, MG you need to jump ship like the other well known family has who now realize that their ace in the hole is a lost cause. I just love it when a plan comes together, really MG 2 trial wins in 21 years and you're bragging about it how sad.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/27/17 07:01 AM

helpme, I have known you personally for years along with your many rants on here under different names. You have been kicked off this forum multiple times under different names. I don't know Casella so I will have to go with you as being the biggest liar and attack dog on here.

Ms. Gardner has won multiple felony trials, more than two, obtaining convictions on everyone she took to trial. It would be a fair estimate to say that well over 90 percent of cases are settled before trial. The prior DA only took two felony cases to trial and lost them both! Its quality not quantity.

Casella's high priced media group convinced him to go the attack route from the get go. His "record" is a big lie. You have another month to keep attacking before you move onto saving Penn Yan or Yates County from itself.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/27/17 08:03 PM

Wow, it seems as though somebody is getting under mean genes skin. When did this stop being about the da's race. All mud slinging aside, this is page after page of the same nonsense. gene hates cook, Casella is a liar and Gardner dances on bars. Is this really the best we can come up with? And what's with the sexism comments? Who was the ada that left? This is better than the days of our lives! And why would Gardner come on here to say anything...she has a few loyal subjects on here to do it for her.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/27/17 09:50 PM

Your buddy helpme can find out for you, if he doesn't he will just make something up. I have been baited by experts before, nice try cynic.
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/28/17 03:45 PM

Me thinks someone, or two, is quoting a comic book. Anyone who bites on the number of cases Casella has tried in Steuben County is smokin' the good stuff. 600 cases and 40 felony trials in 3 years??? If you get sucked in on that one I know of some great ocean front properties up Prattsburg way you will love. Where do you get this crap story helpme or gassy one? A 5th grader would know those figures are absurd. I call BS!!

And what about the continual lying being spewed here? Gardner's record, as spewed here, is a bold faced lie! The contention that she sings in a bar band is also a bold faced lie. The case load of Casella in Steuben is yet another lie. Mr. Hawley is the one with an ax to grind and he will resort to lie after lie to distort the truth.

One counter point. Remember an actress named Rosalind Russell? She has one of the more famous quotes ever coming from Hollywood. She said "Life is a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death". Life is indeed a banquet and Valerie Gardner, like Rosalind Russell, is not starving to death. She partakes of more of life's banquet than most any other woman I know. She sings karaoke (thus the bar singing slur), rides a motorcycle, and is a certified scuba diver, among other activities. She lives life more fully than most do. When a woman does that she is often criticized for sampling from life's banquet, as Valerie has been.

Gassy one and helpme, don't try to pump up your training wheels boy with distortions and lies. We can see through all of the BS.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/28/17 04:08 PM

He knows that Gardner is on her way out and he can't stand it so he blames Cook and now some former ADA under Gardner, Casella's experience,4,000 cases,600 felonies,40 trials and his many police endorsements have sent him over the deep end. So now he is calling names and getting personal and now I'm sure he will start using his other poster name and say naughty things. Gardner has had 3 trials as DA, that's her record.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 09/28/17 05:49 PM

So that still leaves me with a dilemma. Do I vote for the new guy and give him a chance like I did with Valerie after my dismay with the Cook DA or do I vote for Valerie who I have been disappointed with since she took office? These are the things that keep me up at night. The unknown versus the known.
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/28/17 06:34 PM

What have you been disappointed with cheesehead? The DA's office under Gardner has not lost one felony case brought to trial. She has saved the county taxpayers over $100,000 per year during her tenure. What's not to like? I have not heard ANY law enforcement officer come forward either in person or anonymously to detail their complaints. And I do know that the opposition to Valerie is not as widespread as it is being made out to be.

Casella has committed some terrible mistakes so far. He lied on his petitions giving an address that he did not live at. Does anyone wonder why the Republicans could not get any attorney currently practicing in Yates County to run?? He has a nominating committee. Why did no one on that committee help Casella through the petition process? If someone did, that person is incompetent. Casella's campaign looks like a joke to me. Totally unprofessional.

Also, beware of anyone who supports a candidate that is going to lose an election. As we have seen many times on the national level, that is when the bulls*** begins to get deep and the truth takes a back seat.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/28/17 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
So that still leaves me with a dilemma. Do I vote for the new guy and give him a chance like I did with Valerie after my dismay with the Cook DA or do I vote for Valerie who I have been disappointed with since she took office? These are the things that keep me up at night. The unknown versus the known.
Gardner has disappointed everyone and that's why she hasn't received one endorsement, Casella a is honest dedicated prosecutor and family man who's praised by all and has been endorsed by thousands of police officers.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/28/17 08:01 PM

[quote=Enigma3]What have you been disappointed with cheesehead? The DA's office under Gardner has not lost one felony case brought to trial. She has saved the county taxpayers over $100,000 per year during her tenure. What's not to like? I have not heard ANY law enforcement officer come forward either in person or anonymously to detail their complaints.

So you work in her office?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 07:57 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: cheesehead
So that still leaves me with a dilemma. Do I vote for the new guy and give him a chance like I did with Valerie after my dismay with the Cook DA or do I vote for Valerie who I have been disappointed with since she took office? These are the things that keep me up at night. The unknown versus the known.
Gardner has disappointed everyone and that's why she hasn't received one endorsement, Casella a is honest dedicated prosecutor and family man who's praised by all and has been endorsed by thousands of police officers.




"thousands of police officers", 99 percent of them don't know her or anything about her job performance. If you don't seek an endorsement there is a one hundred per cent chance you won't get one. During my 36 years in LE I don't remember a district attorney or judge running for election who came to the PBA seeking an endorsement. It used to be common knowledge that the local unions always stayed neutral for obvious reasons. I think if you check with the local unions Ms Gardner did not seek an endorsement. The public perception of police and the DA or a judge being tied at the hip is not a good thing.
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 12:42 PM

To eternal cynic: Don't be a troll. No one needs to work in her office to know basic factual information about the DA's office. It is all publicly available. If you don't know that you need to get out more.

I have a big problem with law enforcement backing any candidate for public office. That itself is a big conflict of interest.

And note that helpme/gassy one conveniently ignores the points I make. Ignoring the information won't make it go away. The main point that will come up over and over again is that Casella is a 3 year lawyer. 3 years people. Even Clarence Darrow knew very little about the profession after only 3 years.

4000 cases, 600 felonies and 40 trials. All in 3 years. Yea right. Prove it helpme. Show us the source for these totally bogus numbers. Your desperation comes right thru the computer. Desperate people use desperate measures. Like propaganda and a ridiculous made up story. PROOF OF YOUR NUMBERS Robert. I'm guessing you got your numbers out of a Cracker Jacks box. Your posts are great fodder for the theater of the absurd.
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 01:00 PM

One more point to helpme/gassy one. You are hard wired to resist and attack the "good ol' boys/girls" network in Yates County. You have made that your MO ever since these forums began. Overthrow the entrenched establishment politicians. To me, that is very naive. Wherever you go, any county in the US, any country in the world, you will encounter a "good ol' boys/girls" network. Everywhere. Get rid of one and another one will appear. That is human nature. The problem is that you only want to accept that part of reality you agree with. Which always ends up with a distorted vision of reality. So now we have Valerie Gardner as our DA. Think she is a member of the old boy/girl network in this county? She is clearly not. We now have a small group of good ol' boy/girl entrenched legislators and a group of entrenched good ol' boy/girl law enforcement officers who oppose her. Entrenched, long serving folks sometimes need a change to uproot old entrenched habits. You should be rooting her on for taking on the establishment in this county. I am. And many, many others are too. Not so much because she is anti establishment, but because she's good at what she does.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 07:58 PM

You say she's good at what she does and what does she do nothing is what she does.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 08:13 PM

MG, I think it would be great if you took a ad out in the local paper endorsing Gardner and explaining why you think thousands of Police Officers are wrong for endorsing Casella, even explain your theory that Judge Cook is the one who got Casella to run because he is sore that Gardner defeated him 4 years ago for her present DA position. I'm sure if you do that will ensure Casella will win by a landslide.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
One more point to helpme/gassy one. You are hard wired to resist and attack the "good ol' boys/girls" network in Yates County. You have made that your MO ever since these forums began. Overthrow the entrenched establishment politicians. To me, that is very naive. Wherever you go, any county in the US, any country in the world, you will encounter a "good ol' boys/girls" network. Everywhere. Get rid of one and another one will appear. That is human nature. The problem is that you only want to accept that part of reality you agree with. Which always ends up with a distorted vision of reality. So now we have Valerie Gardner as our DA. Think she is a member of the old boy/girl network in this county? She is clearly not. We now have a small group of good ol' boy/girl entrenched legislators and a group of entrenched good ol' boy/girl law enforcement officers who oppose her. Entrenched, long serving folks sometimes need a change to uproot old entrenched habits. You should be rooting her on for taking on the establishment in this county. I am. And many, many others are too. Not so much because she is anti establishment, but because she's good at what she does.
Dancing on the bar?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 09:07 PM

I think it would be great if you worked on your grammar and punctuation!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/29/17 09:11 PM

Not English class Gene! The point was made!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 09/30/17 08:27 AM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not English class Gene! The point was made!



no, but something close to a coherent message would let people understand his message without having to read it three times!!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 09/30/17 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not English class Gene! The point was made!



no, but something close to a coherent message would let people understand his message without having to read it three times!!
LOL!
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 09/30/17 10:35 AM

Enigma 3 I am not trolling, simply trying to understand how it is that you would have the ability to hear an officer complain in person if you are not there. If you are there then your opinion and insight would carry great weight. I'm looking for factual information on both candidates. So far, the only thing I have read about is genes usual expert opinion and theory on everything and anything, and helpme trying to rile him up. Enigma, you seem to present in a professional manner, much unlike some others who's only goal is to confuse and inflame. Statistics are just numbers manipulated by those who use them for their own benefit. As far as the unions go, ask the members if they were solicited by any or all candidates and then you have a factual answer instead of an opinion.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/01/17 08:16 AM

Why cynic, thank you for acknowledging by "expert" opinion. County Court has done that in the past when I testified. smile

We have a lot of anonymous opinions on here and mine. helpme tries to be anonymous but most of us on here know who he is.

Obviously everyone's posts/views on here reflect the world as they perceive it.

It is what it is!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/01/17 11:54 AM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
I wonder what is going on with the current DA that people think anyone else would be a better choice. These are the things that make me scratch my head. The current DA seemed to have a lot of support in the last DA race, but took a big hit in the polls in the judge's race. That seemed odd for the sitting DA to lose the race for the bench to the one she beat for DA. Her staff seemed to have turned over some too. I can't seem to wrap my head around it all. I am missing something. I can't figure it out.
That's because the voters now realize that they made a mistake when they voted her into office just like the PY Village Board realized they made a mistake when they appointed MG Chief of Police, the PYVB corrected their mistake by offering him $10,000 to retire the voters will get rid of their mistake when we vote Todd Casella our next District Attorney.
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella for DA - 10/01/17 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
MG, I think it would be great if you took a ad out in the local paper endorsing Gardner and explaining why you think thousands of Police Officers ...


Are there more than a few dozen police officers in Yates County and Steuben County combined?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/01/17 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
To eternal cynic: Don't be a troll. No one needs to work in her office to know basic factual information about the DA's office. It is all publicly available. If you don't know that you need to get out more.

I have a big problem with law enforcement backing any candidate for public office. That itself is a big conflict of interest.

And note that helpme/gassy one conveniently ignores the points I make. Ignoring the information won't make it go away. The main point that will come up over and over again is that Casella is a 3 year lawyer. 3 years people. Even Clarence Darrow knew very little about the profession after only 3 years.

4000 cases, 600 felonies and 40 trials. All in 3 years. Yea right. Prove it helpme. Show us the source for these totally bogus numbers. Your desperation comes right thru the computer. Desperate people use desperate measures. Like propaganda and a ridiculous made up story. PROOF OF YOUR NUMBERS Robert. I'm guessing you got your numbers out of a Cracker Jacks box. Your posts are great fodder for the theater of the absurd.
Casella has been a ADA for four and half years he has prosecuted 4,000 cases 160 felonies 40 trials in 13 village and town courts plus County Court where he averages 150 felonies a year, in fact he has had 3 felony trials this year all which he has won and that is as many as Gardner claims she has won in 21 years. Casella prosecutes more cases in one year than Gardner and her 2 ADAs have done in 4 years, need I say more?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/01/17 10:36 PM

If someone told you didn't need to say any more it wouldn't do any good, you are like a broken record.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/02/17 10:24 AM

car.pet.bag.ger noun

1. A political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections.


having the same name that's on all the trash cans around town doesn't count as a local connection.
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 10/02/17 10:46 AM

MG!!! SPOT ON!!! HAHAHAHA Very funny!! I love it!!!
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 10/02/17 04:50 PM

You have not offered ANY proof for your numbers helpme. None. Just the same tired pablum spew. 150 felonies a year. I almost choked with laughter on that one!!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/02/17 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
You have not offered ANY proof for your numbers helpme. None. Just the same tired pablum spew. 150 felonies a year. I almost choked with laughter on that one!!
All public records do your own research, this ain't the welfare line.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/03/17 07:52 AM

helpme the only public records in that regard is a listing on the Steuben District Attorney web site which lists what courts Casella works.

One cannot research each court without a listing of every case that each court handled along with a verification from the judge or clerk on who handled what case and which ones went to trial.

DCJS lists the number of criminal arrests in Steuben County for the past few years. The fact that they list 8000 plus cases over that time period, and your man's "numbers" indicate he handled around fifty percent of those criminal cases is bogus.

There are ten other prosecutors in that office. He would have you believe he handled fifty percent and the other ten split the other fifty percent.

I suspect his fuzzy math is using all the traffic tickets and criminal cases he could come up with in multiple courts and taking credit for "handling" all of them, whether he did anything with them or not. ADA's usually are not involved with routine traffic tickets.

"Liars figure and figures lie"
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 10/03/17 05:20 PM

This just in:

Casella is now reporting that he lives at the Taj Mahal during winter months. He handles over 10,000 felonies in one month while ADA, and is claiming that up to 60,000 law enforcement people from all 50 states have endorsed him. He also drives a Rolls Royce and is good friends with the Rev. Sung Myung Moon.

It would be nice if this conversation came back to reality. But I hope too much. Robert, your spewing, me thinks, is not helping your man. That's what happens when you don't have much of a real story to tell.

So tell us helpme, why didn't any attorney practicing in Yates County decide to run against Valerie? On second thought, don't. You'll just make that up too.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 10/03/17 06:12 PM

Ah, now we are all acting like children. None of you are doing your candidates any favors. Let's try this, if you have nothing new let's avoid repeating the same old nonsense, and don't post it. Let's look for new, verifiable information and present it like adults.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/03/17 07:41 PM

MG you can't find those records on the computer you must foil them, Gardner knows it's all over.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/03/17 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
Ah, now we are all acting like children. None of you are doing your candidates any favors. Let's try this, if you have nothing new let's avoid repeating the same old nonsense, and don't post it. Let's look for new, verifiable information and present it like adults.
I agree Casella will win by a landslide, I just love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/04/17 06:01 AM

MG please tell us about Val's record for the last 4 years, felony trials, cases dismissed, and the real reason why she doesn't prosecute PY court anymore and why she allowed the two guys to pay just a fine who illegality set traps that killed a young girls dog in Seneca County.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/04/17 01:31 PM

Seems though you just told the story, Its called the world according to Bob. I remember reading about that case in the paper. There was a good explanation as to why that case was finalized the way it was. Probably not good enough for you I'm sure!!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/06/17 03:33 PM

MG please post Gardner's record for the last 4 years.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/07/17 10:02 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
MG please post Gardner's record for the last 4 years.
Well folks MG is afraid to post Gardner's court record for the last 46 months, I wonder why?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/08/17 06:38 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: helpme
MG please post Gardner's record for the last 4 years.
Well folks MG is afraid to post Gardner's court record for the last 46 months, I wonder why?
Well I guess I've found what makes MG shut-up the truth, oh I just love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/09/17 04:16 PM

No Bob, I have been visiting my daughter in NYC, didn't have time to read your nonsense. There is a meet the candidates forum this week. I would suggest you ask that question in person. I have previously responded on this thread about our District Attorney's record. Brush up on your reading skills instead of repeating yourself over and over again.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/13/17 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
No Bob, I have been visiting my daughter in NYC, didn't have time to read your nonsense. There is a meet the candidates forum this week. I would suggest you ask that question in person. I have previously responded on this thread about our District Attorney's record. Brush up on your reading skills instead of repeating yourself over and over again.
Gardner has had 8 cases dismissed in the last 2 years and only 3 trials in the last 4 years, a sad record and that's why she will be looking for a new job soon.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/13/17 03:26 PM

The world according to Bob. I am not sure how many trials she had in county court during her first term. I know she won all of them. I seem to remember the D.A. before her only prosecuting two cases in county court during his term and he lost both his trials. Pretty sad when you get to pick and choose which ones you try and you lose them.

The overwhelming majority of cases are pled out, it happens everywhere. The ones that go to trial are usually defendants who feel they are innocent or have nothing to lose in sentencing if they take it to trial.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/14/17 08:20 AM

There you go again talking about Judge Cook get over it MG , it's sad that you can't see that Casella is a good honest family man who will be YCs next elected DA.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/15/17 09:13 AM

Just trying to show you how to make comparisons Bob. Its apples to apples.

Casella is a junior ADA in an office with a boss and nine other ADA's. Here is what I know about him. He had a hard time figuring out what his address was when submitting paperwork under oath. He doesn't live in Yates county or have any connections to Yates County. He announced he was the only "True Republican" running. His voting registration record shows him registered as a Democrat in Queens for several years, than no party affiliation before registering republican the last few years for his job in Steuben county. "Honest", I think not!

He may well be "good family man", what I read and received in the mail when he announced he was running is a lack of ethics and honesty. His site blocked me the first time a questioned him about how he started his campaign.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/15/17 08:20 PM

Gardner has had 8 felonies cases dismissed in the last 2 years, of those 8 dismissals 5 were drug charges 2 other ones were dismissed for failure to take to trial on time a DWI and a welfare fraud case and the 8th one was a sex abuse case that Judge Falvey dismissed because the defendant's rights were violated. Gardner at last weeks debate denied that she had a sex abuse case dismissed but the court records prove she is a liar which everyone already knew. What I would really like to know is whether she has every been married "how many times" and does she have children, ones personal life and how they conduct themselves in public "dancing on bars" tells a lot about a person, how do you like those apples MG?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/16/17 07:57 AM

Bob, I question your numbers and most things you say. First of all if a "Sex abuse defendant's" rights were violated, that would have happened during the investigation and arrest prior to the DA being involved.

You seem desperate now, wanting to attack Ms. Gardner personally. Who she was married to and how many children she has are not important.

Mr. Casella has a malicious prosecution case pending against him in Steuben county. He was involved in prosecuting twenty five different charges against one person over a period of time. One of the grand jury charges was dismissed by a judge because of Casella's improper conduct. Reads like a vendetta to me. Not the kind of person I want to be in charge of the DA's office.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/19/17 05:50 AM

MG why are all Police agencies endorsing Casella and not Gardner? Gardner has been endorsed by only you and some convict, that says a lot.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/19/17 08:13 AM

You seem to be mistaken, The Penn Yan Police Benevolent Association is not endorsing anyone in the election. I believe their union prohibits it as the sensible thing to do.

There is no "agency" endorsing. You are talking about "unions", a deputies union who chose not to endorse anyone on their first try, then voted a second time with a couple less people there to get a majority. You need to be careful when you use the word "ALL".

I believe there may be some latent sexism involved, most cops have big egos. Some of them don't like answering to a woman.

I guess technically you don't qualify as being a "convict" who supports Casella. Retired Sgt. Gettings would say otherwise!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/20/17 05:54 AM

Latest poll have Casella leading by a landslide, I just love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 10/20/17 06:19 AM

Yeah, a landslide in YOUR mind!! There are NO polls!!! Get a life man!!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 05:34 AM

Originally Posted By: French Pastry
Yeah, a landslide in YOUR mind!! There are NO polls!!! Get a life man!!
I want you to remember this "winning isn't everything but losing isn't nothing", it's time for the voters of Yates County to elect a District Attorney who has morals and that person is Todd Casella.
Posted by: Purification

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 08:01 AM

Where are the polls posted?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 08:10 AM

Grapevine Express
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 08:12 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: French Pastry
Yeah, a landslide in YOUR mind!! There are NO polls!!! Get a life man!!
I want you to remember this "winning isn't everything but losing isn't nothing", it's time for the voters of Yates County to elect a District Attorney who has morals and that person is Todd Casella.




What better person than you to decide who has morals and who doesn't. One who tries to twist the truth when testifying under oath would be lacking in morals.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
Originally Posted By: French Pastry
Yeah, a landslide in YOUR mind!! There are NO polls!!! Get a life man!!
I want you to remember this "winning isn't everything but losing isn't nothing", it's time for the voters of Yates County to elect a District Attorney who has morals and that person is Todd Casella.




What better person than you to decide who has morals and who doesn't. One who tries to twist the truth when testifying under oath would be lacking in morals.
MG that's why I'm voting for Casella he knows good cops from bad ones.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 01:12 PM

I think he would be better served knowing the difference between right and wrong and the truth vs. a lie.

Apparently he was out to get someone in Steuben county, A judge there saw it and dismissed a grand jury indictment because of Casella's misconduct. His youthful lack of judgment on continuing to pursue this guy ends with 21 charges dismissed and a malicious prosecution lawsuit filed against him.

We don't need that in Yates County!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I think he would be better served knowing the difference between right and wrong and the truth vs. a lie.

Apparently he was out to get someone in Steuben county, A judge there saw it and dismissed a grand jury indictment because of Casella's misconduct. His youthful lack of judgment on continuing to pursue this guy ends with 21 charges dismissed and a malicious prosecution lawsuit filed against him.

We don't need that in Yates County!
I'm glad you brought that up because the facts of that case are sealed and I doubt that you know the true facts, that being sad I'm sure you'll receive a invitation to explain where you got you sealed information from. There's a reason why 6,000 State Police and all County and Village Police Officers in two counties have endorsed Casella and that's because he's a good honest family man who is best qualified for the job. Jason Cook will be County Judge for the next 25 years and Todd Casella will be the County's Prosecutor for the next 35 years so MG suck it up.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 04:53 PM

Well Bob, let me help you out here. The only people not allowed to disclose info on this "sealed case" are governmental entities. The victim who filed the lawsuit can tell anyone he wants, and he has. On Facebook and a visit to the local media.
Go visit the media, maybe they will share a copy of the lawsuit with you.

The Penn Yan Police Benevolent association has not endorsed anyone, as their bylaws make sense. They don't endorse candidates for office.

Apparently you didn't spend enough time in the law library when you were incarcerated or you would have been aware of the law.

The facts of the arrest are sealed but the ensuing lawsuit is an open book, as it should be.
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Well Bob, let me help you out here. The only people not allowed to disclose info on this "sealed case" are governmental entities. The victim who filed the lawsuit can tell anyone he wants, and he has. On Facebook and a visit to the local media.
Go visit the media, maybe they will share a copy of the lawsuit with you.

The Penn Yan Police Benevolent association has not endorsed anyone, as their bylaws make sense. They don't endorse candidates for office.

Apparently you didn't spend enough time in the law library when you were incarcerated or you would have been aware of the law.

The facts of the arrest are sealed but the ensuing lawsuit is an open book, as it should be.



If the lawsuit is public why not get a copy and post it here so we can read it for ourselves?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 05:22 PM

I would love to, my skill set doesn't help me accomplish that. If you are computer literate enough to do it I might be able to email it to you. Send me a PM with your email.

Or contact the Chronicle Express, I heard they had a copy of it.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 07:22 PM

MG made the same foolish statements about Judge Cook having lawsuits filed against him when he was running against Gardner, Cook is now County Judge and Casella who is endorsed by the PY Police will soon be the next Yates County District Attorney.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/22/17 10:19 PM

Bob, you continue to make things up, Casella's release says "Yates county cops" which is misleading. It should say Yates Deputies union. The Penn Yan Police Benevolent Association are cops in Yates county and last I knew they were not endorsing anyone.

Quit changing the subject and admit you were wrong. I never had any knowledge of the prior DA having a malicious prosecution lawsuit filed against him. If he did it had to be the result of one of the two cases he tried and lost.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/23/17 05:36 AM

MG no matter what lies you pass on they won't help Gardner win because the voters of Yates County now know she is morally unfit for the job. MG jump on the Casella band wagon because it's all over for the on the bar dancing DA.
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 10/23/17 06:03 AM

OH, helpme...you do need it!! I have been to several community events. You know who is there, visible, mixing with the people of Yates County?? Our own very valuable, very successful, Valerie Gardner!! Where is Casella??? I hear crickets!! I haven't seen him at one event in our community!! I actually have seen Valerie in action as a part of a grand jury and I can attest to the fact that she is thorough and professional...someone I want to continue as my D.A.!!!
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 10/23/17 08:30 PM

Originally Posted By: French Pastry
OH, helpme...you do need it!! I have been to several community events. You know who is there, visible, mixing with the people of Yates County?? Our own very valuable, very successful, Valerie Gardner!! Where is Casella??? I hear crickets!! I haven't seen him at one event in our community!! I actually have seen Valerie in action as a part of a grand jury and I can attest to the fact that she is thorough and professional...someone I want to continue as my D.A.!!!


Tell us about it please. First hand accounts peek my interest.
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 06:58 AM

OK......I can tell you she crossed all her T's and dotted all her i's during my 4 months on the Grand Jury...As I recall, I believe all cases resulted in indictments...Meaning the evidence presented led to a solid decision on the part of the Grand Jury...I am old enough to have served on three grand juries under three different D.A.s'during my life and Valerie ranks right at the top in terms of doing her job well.....I don't trust the other guy running as he has more dirty laundry than my mother had in a weeks time for our large family......
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 07:20 AM

I'm pretty sure Gardner is no saint with her bar dancing past!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 07:42 AM

gassy, you and helpme are a broken record. jealousy will get you no where. Last I knew singing Kareoke in a bar years ago would not be illegal. They usually don't do Kareoke in church halls.

During my years tending bar before I entered Law Enforcement I have seen many judges and district attorney's drinking in bars, I have even watched a judge get intoxicated. It is interesting seeing one's demeanor change from sober to intoxicated.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 08:54 AM

Where are the facts? Mean gene I find it very interesting that you take issues with union endorsements and what the should call themselves. That's arrogance at any level for you to think your way is the right way. How would you feel if the village police decided to endorse? Where there's a will, there's a way. You can sit and post stuff on this forum every day but you can't figure out how to upload a document? Cmon!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 10:06 AM

Cynic, sorry I am not as computer literate as I would like to be. Maybe someone else will post the malicious prosecution Notice of Claim filed against Casella. Send me a random gmail account and I will forward it to you.

The complaint has been seen and verified by the Chronicle-Express. I have seen it. I have no problem with what "Unions" call themselves. Casella did a news release stating "Yates county Cops" endorsed him. That gives the impression that all have endorsed him when its not true.

As far as "if the Penn Yan Police Union" endorses, I would feel the same way as I would about any union giving an endorsement. It can give certain segments of the public the impression the district Attorney and police are tied at the hip when decisions are made. The District Attorney has to make decisions based on evidence and facts presented independent of any police influence.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
gassy, you and helpme are a broken record. jealousy will get you no where. Last I knew singing Kareoke in a bar years ago would not be illegal. They usually don't do Kareoke in church halls.

During my years tending bar before I entered Law Enforcement I have seen many judges and district attorney's drinking in bars, I have even watched a judge get intoxicated. It is interesting seeing one's demeanor change from sober to intoxicated.


Gene I'm talking on the bar not in the bar!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 12:18 PM

Then you are still jealous!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 12:23 PM

Jealous of her! Nothing to be jealous for! Her conduct only shows bad judgement to me!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 01:50 PM

Because it's not a lawsuit it's a notice of claim which means nothing, check into the mans back ground and you'll know why it's not going anywhere.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 01:54 PM

Casella doesn't bar hop that's why you don't see him he goes door to door, tell me does Gardner look anything like those old pictures on her campaign posters?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 02:41 PM

Bob you have no idea what he does in his personal life other than his public record and campaign rhetoric which consists of the following:

"I am the only true republican in the race"

His voting record shows he was a registered democrat in Queens county for several years, then switched to "no identified party", then switched to Republican a few years ago for his Steuben county job.

His petition filing records which show three different addresses. His attempt to deceive the court when he testified under oath about where he really lived.

The "Notice of Claim" filed against him for Malicious prosecution which states he pursued one individual over a period of time on 21 charges, all dismissed. That fiasco included a judge dismissing a grand jury case because of Casella's misconduct.

I don't know the guy, but those three things, which are all documented in writing makes me think he will say and do anything to get elected.

Add them to the tone of his initial campaign mailing in which all he did was attack Ms. Gardner show his true colors.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 03:23 PM

I don't care what party he belongs to he's a good honest hard working family man who is a excellent prosecutor, this other crap you've been trying to sell is just hogwash. Look at Gardner she talks about being honest yet her campaign posters all display a picture taken in the last decade, inquiring minds want to know if she's running for YC District Attorney or is she doing a toothpaste commercial?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/24/17 08:21 PM

I see Bob, because she used a picture of herself from a few years ago on signs she had left over from the last election she is dishonest? you can't be serious!!

You have decided to just ignore all his dishonesty and have decided he is a good hard working family man?

Man up and tell everyone you had the gall to approach Ms. Gardner when she announced she was running and told her you would support her if she fired one of her assistants you don't like. How bout I buy you a shovel to bury that grudge you are carrying around.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/25/17 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I see Bob, because she used a picture of herself from a few years ago on signs she had left over from the last election she is dishonest? you can't be serious!!

You have decided to just ignore all his dishonesty and have decided he is a good hard working family man?

Man up and tell everyone you had the gall to approach Ms. Gardner when she announced she was running and told her you would support her if she fired one of her assistants you don't like. How bout I buy you a shovel to bury that grudge you are carrying around.
I don't know if you made that story up yourself or you heard that lie from Gardner but it's bogus, I would never vote for Gardner because she's morally unfit for the job.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/25/17 08:31 AM

You can't make this stuff up! During what part of your life did you become an expert on judging peoples fitness for a job?

You have a history of getting into pissing matches with sitting District Attorney's. You and I both know the yellow paint on a former D.A.'s car was courtesy of only one suspect back many years ago when you were tent camping on East Main st. That suspect being a little sloppy with some of the paint ending up on his sneakers.
Posted by: yipes

Re: Casella for DA - 10/25/17 11:29 AM

Speaking of pissing contest, you both reek of urine. How about we try to get something positive out of your rivalry. I will schedule 6 round boxing bout with 16 oz. gloves to be held the Monday night before the election. Prior to the event I will solicit moneys to be awarded to the winner who in turn will be mandated to turn over the money to the charity of the winners choice. Thinking I will commission Bubby Harris to be the referee. Or we can wait for the election to be over with & have nothing to show for it except all this keyboard striking from your stinky posts.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/25/17 12:35 PM

Welcome back to the pissing contest "Yipes", I see your history on here makes you a Casella fan. I have no problem telling it like I see it. Its called an "Opinion". We are all entitled to one of those.

I have no problem standing by or defending what I post. You can take it or leave it. 99 percent of the people on here post without their identity revealed, the site is designed for people who are reluctant to share their identity along with their views.

I don't have that problem.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/25/17 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
You can't make this stuff up! During what part of your life did you become an expert on judging peoples fitness for a job?

You have a history of getting into pissing matches with sitting District Attorney's. You and I both know the yellow paint on a former D.A.'s car was courtesy of only one suspect back many years ago when you were tent camping on East Main st. That suspect being a little sloppy with some of the paint ending up on his sneakers.
MG take a deep breath and relax, Cook is County Judge and Casella will be elected the next DA.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/25/17 10:33 PM

I thought you would at least ask me why I didn't arrest you back in the 80's when the D.A. asked me to!!!

I am relaxed Bob, its pretty easy responding to the things you spew on here!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/26/17 03:53 AM

Casella handles the workload of two ADAs he has already done over 80 cases this week in Court, this guy is amazing no wonder 6,000 State Police and all local and County law enforcement officers in Yates County have endorsed him over a "sitting' District Attorney. With Jason Cook as County Judge and Casella as our next District Attorney citizens of Yates can once again have faith in our legal system.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/26/17 08:17 AM

YAWN There you go using the word "ALL" again. Do you take your pom poms to court and cheer him on Bob?
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 10/28/17 05:24 PM

Looking for the information on this ñotice of claim? First, what is a notice of claim, second who is involved beside Casella. Has this claim been filed before? Also, if there are legitimate felony charges, why no arrest? If the answer is because we can't trust the police to be objective and do their jobs then I think the citizens of Yates county have a bigger problem. Seems like that would end the competition for this election. Mean gene, can you ask your source for all the scoops that you conveniently get, even better give us the name of the source so we can get information directly if we are so interested in doing so. The voters can fairly evaluate the situation before the election when the cats out of the bag.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/28/17 10:28 PM

Cynic, it was filed on September 5th in Steuben County Supreme Court. Just had my son clean up my computer, was bogged down pretty badly. My printer is up and running again. I have a printed copy and the ability to email it or snail mail it to anyone who wants it. "NOTICE OF CLAIM" which has to be filed in a timely manner to preserve one's rights.

I know its hard to believe but I don't know how to copy onto this site.

A response to your "why no arrest", from my non attorney perspective would be if this were brought to the current DA it would be difficult for the State Police or County YCSO to investigate and bring a decision back to her until after this election is over. There would clearly be a potential bias involving all parties until after the election.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/28/17 11:43 PM

What a line of crap if it was filed in Steuben County YCSO wouldn't have the authority to investigate it, I heard Gardner claims your lies have hurt her campaign and wants you to stop running your mouth. With Casella receiving endorsements from the State Police, YCSO and the PYPD do you think anyone cares what you have to say about him?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/29/17 08:23 AM

Well Bob, I will take a chance that I might have a better grasp of the law than you do. IF Casella's brother forged a signature on a petition he collected in Yates County and it was filed with the Yates County Board of Elections, the criminal investigation and complaint would take place in Yates County.

I heard you are being investigated for littering by placing Casella signs in the public right of way in front of the drug stores and plaza in Penn Yan. smile
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/29/17 09:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Well Bob, I will take a chance that I might have a better grasp of the law than you do. IF Casella's brother forged a signature on a petition he collected in Yates County and it was filed with the Yates County Board of Elections, the criminal investigation and complaint would take place in Yates County.

I heard you are being investigated for littering by placing Casella signs in the public right of way in front of the drug stores and plaza in Penn Yan. smile
I don't know where you heard that because it's my understanding that PYPD officers don't talk to you because none of them like you and that's why former Police Chief Hulse didn't invite you to his retirement party.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/29/17 11:23 AM

You obviously have no understanding of my social life or who I talk to. You continue to babble nonsense.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/29/17 08:18 PM

I hate to burst your bubble Gene but you aren't the most popular person in town! Even your brother doesn't have many good things to say about you! LOL!
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 10/29/17 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I hate to burst your bubble Gene but you aren't the most popular person in town! Even your brother doesn't have many good things to say about you! LOL!


That is a blow right in the chilupa! Ha!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 09:54 AM

ha ha, you guys are funny!!! I will ask him when I go over to his house to shoot a game of billiards.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 01:04 PM

Make sure you use the dealer plates to get there.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 02:41 PM

Usually my wife tells me not to take her car.

You have a problem with my driving one of my son's vehicles with his dealer plates? Is that a bad thing for him to be paying the state to be a dealer and generating sales tax when he sells vehicles in New York State?

Its a perk of being his gofer!!! smile
Posted by: Enigma3

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 03:16 PM

Thank God the election is a little over a week away. The amount of disinformation, slurs, outright lies and over the top hyperbole being spewed on this forum by Mr Hawley and his minions is downright deplorable. Bob, I do believe that your constant BS ramblings on Casella are hurting him rather than helping him.
You, Mr Hawley, have cost local governments thousands of dollars over the years to counter your political hysteria. And go ahead, tell us that all your pontificating on behalf of your whacked out agenda and lawsuits are totally legal. They are indeed that. And they also stink like the sewers of Paris. You make John Nicolo look like a saint. But we know better. You are a true social malcontent who has no idea of how to interact with government to move your precious agenda forward. You are just another member of the peanut gallery who enjoys throwing hand grenades at the hard working people who actually give a crap about Yates County. Who work hard every day for the benefit of all of us. We are all thankful that Mr Art Bechofer is no longer funding your worthless lawsuits. Now that said money source has dried up, it looks like the only course left for you is to spew BS. Here's a hint for your future Bob - consider saying something positive about Yates County. Just once. Com'on, you can do it. It doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, saying something nice about someone will lift your spirits.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
Thank God the election is a little over a week away. The amount of disinformation, slurs, outright lies and over the top hyperbole being spewed on this forum by Mr Hawley and his minions is downright deplorable. Bob, I do believe that your constant BS ramblings on Casella are hurting him rather than helping him.
You, Mr Hawley, have cost local governments thousands of dollars over the years to counter your political hysteria. And go ahead, tell us that all your pontificating on behalf of your whacked out agenda and lawsuits are totally legal. They are indeed that. And they also stink like the sewers of Paris. You make John Nicolo look like a saint. But we know better. You are a true social malcontent who has no idea of how to interact with government to move your precious agenda forward. You are just another member of the peanut gallery who enjoys throwing hand grenades at the hard working people who actually give a crap about Yates County. Who work hard every day for the benefit of all of us. We are all thankful that Mr Art Bechofer is no longer funding your worthless lawsuits. Now that said money source has dried up, it looks like the only course left for you is to spew BS. Here's a hint for your future Bob - consider saying something positive about Yates County. Just once. Com'on, you can do it. It doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, saying something nice about someone will lift your spirits.
You sound like someone who can't take losing, I just love it when a plan comes together it makes the world a better place to live.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 06:25 PM

Notice of Claim:
Click here
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 07:17 PM

MG are you serious that's your smoking gun, what a joke that is it means nothing and proves Gardner's claim you have hurt her campaign. Thank you for helping Casella become Yates County's next District attorney.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Usually my wife tells me not to take her car.

You have a problem with my driving one of my son's vehicles with his dealer plates? Is that a bad thing for him to be paying the state to be a dealer and generating sales tax when he sells vehicles in New York State?

Its a perk of being his gofer!!! smile
Dealer plates aren't intended for your personal use Gene! How cheap can you be?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/30/17 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By: helpme
Gardner and her sidekick are blaming each other for failing to contest Casella's residents on all his parties petitions, a screw-up that cost Gardner over 30,000$ in wasted legal fees and would of knocked Casella out of the race. How foolish for one to make such a preventable error that will now cost her the election, for all it took was a sentence in the objection to the board of elections that stated "I contest the address Casella stated on all petitions" if she had she would of been the only one running. Lack of common knowledge of the law and laziness has now cost her the election and now the blame game has divided her camp, her sidekick who got blamed for her lost last year for not campaigning hard enough is pointing his finger at the one who filed the objections for the screw-up. Gardner has only herself to blame she is the only so called lawyer in her camp and her sidekick is I believe this month a fast food cook, it's the beginning of the end of Yates County's worst District Attorney and it's about time because the citizens of Yates County have suffered enough and deserve better and his name is Todd Casella.
Just reported the Penn Yan Village Police have just officially endorsed Casella for Yates County District Attorney, the spokesman for the Village Police stated Gardner has disgraced the office of the District Attorney and this department will not stand by and allow her to continue to put the safety of the public at risk.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/31/17 08:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
Thank God the election is a little over a week away. The amount of disinformation, slurs, outright lies and over the top hyperbole being spewed on this forum by Mr Hawley and his minions is downright deplorable. Bob, I do believe that your constant BS ramblings on Casella are hurting him rather than helping him.
You, Mr Hawley, have cost local governments thousands of dollars over the years to counter your political hysteria. And go ahead, tell us that all your pontificating on behalf of your whacked out agenda and lawsuits are totally legal. They are indeed that. And they also stink like the sewers of Paris. You make John Nicolo look like a saint. But we know better. You are a true social malcontent who has no idea of how to interact with government to move your precious agenda forward. You are just another member of the peanut gallery who enjoys throwing hand grenades at the hard working people who actually give a crap about Yates County. Who work hard every day for the benefit of all of us. We are all thankful that Mr Art Bechofer is no longer funding your worthless lawsuits. Now that said money source has dried up, it looks like the only course left for you is to spew BS. Here's a hint for your future Bob - consider saying something positive about Yates County. Just once. Com'on, you can do it. It doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, saying something nice about someone will lift your spirits.




This just about says it all Bob.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/31/17 09:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Enigma3
Thank God the election is a little over a week away. The amount of disinformation, slurs, outright lies and over the top hyperbole being spewed on this forum by Mr Hawley and his minions is downright deplorable. Bob, I do believe that your constant BS ramblings on Casella are hurting him rather than helping him.
You, Mr Hawley, have cost local governments thousands of dollars over the years to counter your political hysteria. And go ahead, tell us that all your pontificating on behalf of your whacked out agenda and lawsuits are totally legal. They are indeed that. And they also stink like the sewers of Paris. You make John Nicolo look like a saint. But we know better. You are a true social malcontent who has no idea of how to interact with government to move your precious agenda forward. You are just another member of the peanut gallery who enjoys throwing hand grenades at the hard working people who actually give a crap about Yates County. Who work hard every day for the benefit of all of us. We are all thankful that Mr Art Bechofer is no longer funding your worthless lawsuits. Now that said money source has dried up, it looks like the only course left for you is to spew BS. Here's a hint for your future Bob - consider saying something positive about Yates County. Just once. Com'on, you can do it. It doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, saying something nice about someone will lift your spirits.
Actually I'm glad Bob is around exposing all the hanky panky that goes on in this village! Look what Marchionda did to this village when he was the mayor with the good ole boys club! He made PY the laughing stock of the Finger Lakes with all his misdeeds! Do you think we would have ever found out about all of this without him? I think by holding the mayor and trustees feet to the fire and making them do things the right way is the way to go!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 10/31/17 01:50 PM

Its all about perspective Gassy. You have an unhealthy obession about the name "Marchionda".
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/31/17 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Enigma3
Thank God the election is a little over a week away. The amount of disinformation, slurs, outright lies and over the top hyperbole being spewed on this forum by Mr Hawley and his minions is downright deplorable. Bob, I do believe that your constant BS ramblings on Casella are hurting him rather than helping him.
You, Mr Hawley, have cost local governments thousands of dollars over the years to counter your political hysteria. And go ahead, tell us that all your pontificating on behalf of your whacked out agenda and lawsuits are totally legal. They are indeed that. And they also stink like the sewers of Paris. You make John Nicolo look like a saint. But we know better. You are a true social malcontent who has no idea of how to interact with government to move your precious agenda forward. You are just another member of the peanut gallery who enjoys throwing hand grenades at the hard working people who actually give a crap about Yates County. Who work hard every day for the benefit of all of us. We are all thankful that Mr Art Bechofer is no longer funding your worthless lawsuits. Now that said money source has dried up, it looks like the only course left for you is to spew BS. Here's a hint for your future Bob - consider saying something positive about Yates County. Just once. Com'on, you can do it. It doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, saying something nice about someone will lift your spirits.
Actually I'm glad Bob is around exposing all the hanky panky that goes on in this village! Look what Marchionda did to this village when he was the mayor with the good ole boys club! He made PY the laughing stock of the Finger Lakes with all his misdeeds! Do you think we would have ever found out about all of this without him? I think by holding the mayor and trustees feet to the fire and making them do things the right way is the way to go!
You hit the nail right on the head because he's enigma 3 the snake in the grass.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 10/31/17 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Its all about perspective Gassy. You have an unhealthy obession about the name "Marchionda".
MG did you know that the Penn Yan Police union endorsed Casella yesterday? That's right not one Law Enforcement Department or Officer has endorsed Gardner why?
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 10/31/17 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Its all about perspective Gassy. You have an unhealthy obession about the name "Marchionda".
No obsession just stating the facts! I'm surprised you have changed your tune after Dougie trashed you! It must be that buyout money you took to disappear changed your tune!
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 09:08 AM

You made a statement without presenting any underlying "facts".
The Mayor and I disagreed on his approach to handling a police issue. It was well hashed out in the media. The end result showed I correctly interpreted the law.

I delayed my retirement on purpose, The village always watched a dollar pretty close when it came to the PD. I was the only Tier one employee left and knew when I left the Village would save a lot of money by paying less into the retirement system and salary.

I made them a offer they couldn't refuse. I made a lot of good cases in my 36 year career, I left with an unblemished personnel file. I would challenge you to find a District Attorney I presented a case too who was unhappy with my work product. I am all ears regarding your work history.
Posted by: French Pastry

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 10:46 AM

Yes, MG, I would love to hear about his work history also, not to mention his police record!! HAHAHA
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 03:49 PM

MG could you please explain why the New York State Police, the Yates County Sheriff Department and now the Penn Yan Police Union have all endorsed Casella instead of Gardner.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 03:55 PM

ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PENN YAN POLICE ENDORSES CASELLA FOR YATES D.A.

(Penn Yan, NY) The organization representing the men and women of the Penn Yan Police has endorsed challenger Todd Casella in next week’s election for Yates County District Attorney. The New York State Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, Local 3515P, announced the move in a letter this week following a vote by their members.

This endorsement comes on the heels of Casella’s previous law enforcement endorsements from the Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union (representing the members of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office), New York State Troopers Police Benevolent Association, and Steuben County Association of Police Chiefs.

Casella’s opponent, incumbent Valerie Gardner, has not received a single endorsement from a law enforcement or police agency – a telling indication of their dismal view of Gardner’s tenure as D.A.

In their letter of endorsement, Local 3515P President Wayne Marsh and Vice President Jeffrey Stewart said, “After very careful consideration the members of the Local 3515P of the NYS Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, has voted to endorse you for Yates County District Attorney. Our community and our officers have been engaged in (a) fight to keep our people from the grips of dangerous and deadly narcotic addiction. Open communication between Law Enforcement and the District Attorney’s Office is vital in this battle.”

“The breakdown of communication between the D.A.’s Office and law enforcement has been caused by Valerie Gardner and needs to be fixed,” Casella said. “In order for justice to prevail, law enforcement and prosecutors must be able to work together for the benefit of the public.”

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7. Mr. Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.


Crickets....?
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PENN YAN POLICE ENDORSES CASELLA FOR YATES D.A.

(Penn Yan, NY) The organization representing the men and women of the Penn Yan Police has endorsed challenger Todd Casella in next week’s election for Yates County District Attorney. The New York State Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, Local 3515P, announced the move in a letter this week following a vote by their members.

This endorsement comes on the heels of Casella’s previous law enforcement endorsements from the Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union (representing the members of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office), New York State Troopers Police Benevolent Association, and Steuben County Association of Police Chiefs.

Casella’s opponent, incumbent Valerie Gardner, has not received a single endorsement from a law enforcement or police agency – a telling indication of their dismal view of Gardner’s tenure as D.A.

In their letter of endorsement, Local 3515P President Wayne Marsh and Vice President Jeffrey Stewart said, “After very careful consideration the members of the Local 3515P of the NYS Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, has voted to endorse you for Yates County District Attorney. Our community and our officers have been engaged in (a) fight to keep our people from the grips of dangerous and deadly narcotic addiction. Open communication between Law Enforcement and the District Attorney’s Office is vital in this battle.”

“The breakdown of communication between the D.A.’s Office and law enforcement has been caused by Valerie Gardner and needs to be fixed,” Casella said. “In order for justice to prevail, law enforcement and prosecutors must be able to work together for the benefit of the public.”

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7. Mr. Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.


Crickets....?
Well that's the end of Gardner and her sidekicks.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 07:05 PM

No crickets here, Ten members, five voted to endorse. That is fifty percent. Probably should have been six votes for an actual endorsement.

BTW I received that info from one of the officers who supposedly doesn't talk to me anymore. smile

If there really is a communication problem, apparently no one in law enforcement has taken the time to address concerns they might have with the District Attorney.

2 weeks ago in the paper I saw four people going to state prison for selling drugs in Yates County. All prosecuted by Ms. Gardner. She also is very involved in drug court, trying to get users on the right track. I was wondering what more the union feels she should be doing? Longer prison sentences? IF the judge thinks plea offers are too lenient he has control on whether to accept the deal.

I would hope the officers don't think they can arrest their way out of this problem, it can only be solved thru education to reduce the demand.

Perhaps there is some latent sexism involved? Maybe officers don't like having to answer to a woman in a position of authority?
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 08:21 PM

So that is the penn Yan cops, the Yates sheriffs and the troopers not endorsing the sitting da? That is some crazy stuff!
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 11/01/17 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
No crickets here, Ten members, five voted to endorse. That is fifty percent. Probably should have been six votes for an actual endorsement.

BTW I received that info from one of the officers who supposedly doesn't talk to me anymore. smile

If there really is a communication problem, apparently no one in law enforcement has taken the time to address concerns they might have with the District Attorney.

2 weeks ago in the paper I saw four people going to state prison for selling drugs in Yates County. All prosecuted by Ms. Gardner. She also is very involved in drug court, trying to get users on the right track. I was wondering what more the union feels she should be doing? Longer prison sentences? IF the judge thinks plea offers are too lenient he has control on whether to accept the deal.

I would hope the officers don't think they can arrest their way out of this problem, it can only be solved thru education to reduce the demand.

Perhaps there is some latent sexism involved? Maybe officers don't like having to answer to a woman in a position of authority?
The problem with that theory Gene is how are you going to educate the uneducated low life Section 8 people who have overrun PY!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/02/17 06:00 AM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PENN YAN POLICE ENDORSES CASELLA FOR YATES D.A.

(Penn Yan, NY) The organization representing the men and women of the Penn Yan Police has endorsed challenger Todd Casella in next week’s election for Yates County District Attorney. The New York State Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, Local 3515P, announced the move in a letter this week following a vote by their members.

This endorsement comes on the heels of Casella’s previous law enforcement endorsements from the Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union (representing the members of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office), New York State Troopers Police Benevolent Association, and Steuben County Association of Police Chiefs.

Casella’s opponent, incumbent Valerie Gardner, has not received a single endorsement from a law enforcement or police agency – a telling indication of their dismal view of Gardner’s tenure as D.A.

In their letter of endorsement, Local 3515P President Wayne Marsh and Vice President Jeffrey Stewart said, “After very careful consideration the members of the Local 3515P of the NYS Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, has voted to endorse you for Yates County District Attorney. Our community and our officers have been engaged in (a) fight to keep our people from the grips of dangerous and deadly narcotic addiction. Open communication between Law Enforcement and the District Attorney’s Office is vital in this battle.”

“The breakdown of communication between the D.A.’s Office and law enforcement has been caused by Valerie Gardner and needs to be fixed,” Casella said. “In order for justice to prevail, law enforcement and prosecutors must be able to work together for the benefit of the public.”

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7. Mr. Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.


Crickets....?
I heard Gardner is already blaming MG.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/02/17 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: helpme
MG could you please explain why the New York State Police, the Yates County Sheriff Department and now the Penn Yan Police Union have all endorsed Casella instead of Gardner.



OK Bob, you asked and I will give you my perspective on it:

1. The police profession is a male dominated profession, probably more so in Yates County.
2. Police officers tend to have large ego's.

I don't think you will find too many people who will argue with those two statements.

Here is anecdotal recent history of Yates County. The previous District Attorney tried only two cases during his term in County court and lost them both. His DWI conviction rate slipped below what it had been running under the District Attorney before him. (female) The state police union and "retired" state police union endorsed him when Ms. Gardner ran against him. They certainly could not have been endorsing him on his job performance. Ms. Gardner defeated him despite his statewide endorsement by the state police union.

IMHO police officers in general are more comfortable dealing with a male authority. They like to yuk it up about hunting, baseball and football. They will never admit it, but they would rather answer to a male than a female. I call it latent sexism.

The District Attorney should be viewed by the public as independent of police influence when judging how to dispose of cases. The judge has the final say on sentencing.

Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/02/17 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
MG could you please explain why the New York State Police, the Yates County Sheriff Department and now the Penn Yan Police Union have all endorsed Casella instead of Gardner.



OK Bob, you asked and I will give you my perspective on it:

1. The police profession is a male dominated profession, probably more so in Yates County.
2. Police officers tend to have large ego's.

I don't think you will find too many people who will argue with those two statements.

Here is anecdotal recent history of Yates County. The previous District Attorney tried only two cases during his term in County court and lost them both. His DWI conviction rate slipped below what it had been running under the District Attorney before him. (female) The state police union and "retired" state police union endorsed him when Ms. Gardner ran against him. They certainly could not have been endorsing him on his job performance. Ms. Gardner defeated him despite his statewide endorsement by the state police union.

IMHO police officers in general are more comfortable dealing with a male authority. They like to yuk it up about hunting, baseball and football. They will never admit it, but they would rather answer to a male than a female. I call it latent sexism.

The District Attorney should be viewed by the public as independent of police influence when judging how to dispose of cases. The judge has the final say on sentencing.

I knew you couldn't help yourself and would step right into, once again you have tried to dishonored our brave and dedicated law enforcement officers with your lies just like you did with your letter to the editor about Casella. I ask all of you who read this post to google the Chronicle Express website and read Casella's letter to the editor that the paper just posted, Mr. Casella addresses Gene's lies from his letter to the editor one of the lies claimed Casella's brother committed forgery. This is a bold face lie and Geneo knew it and now he will be sued over his false statement bye bye pension, I just love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella for DA - 11/02/17 09:41 PM

http://www.fltimes.com/news/penn-yan-pol...4684a7a015.html
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/02/17 10:57 PM

Bob, I am impressed with your change of heart regarding our police. That stint in Elmira prison you served for hitting a police officer in the head from behind with a chair has made you a changed man!

The "Notice of Claim" is quite clear, of course Mr. Casella will try and spin it. He has been twisting the truth a lot the last few months. The Court made that quite clear in its decision.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/03/17 02:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Bob, I am impressed with your change of heart regarding our police. That stint in Elmira prison you served for hitting a police officer in the head from behind with a chair has made you a changed man!

The "Notice of Claim" is quite clear, of course Mr. Casella will try and spin it. He has been twisting the truth a lot the last few months. The Court made that quite clear in its decision.
Gene once again you have open yourself up to be sued for slander because I've never hit anyone over the head with a chair, I'll enjoy living on the lake in my home but before I move in I'll make sure the former owner didn't leave behind any mind altering drugs. Gene you have been acting awful strange lately are you sure it wasn't you that was hit over the head or is life getting to tuff for you?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/03/17 07:53 AM

OK, maybe it was a stool you used!
I am sure there are a few who remember that incident well. Especially the retired Sergeant who was the victim. That's the great thing in America, (and for lawyers) you can sue anyone one for anything. smile

Last I knew there was no liability for telling the truth. I eagerly await your legal action.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

Re: Casella for DA - 11/03/17 01:03 PM

Yes she did….No she didn’t.
Yes he did….No he didn’t.
Liar, liar, pants on fire……
Yes he is....No he isn’t
Yes she is….No she isn’t.
Am not….Are to.
Is too….Is not.
Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah.
So there….So there back.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/03/17 01:19 PM

Damn, I should have realized when I used the word "Lawyer" you would take notice!!! Glad to see you are still kickin!! smile
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/03/17 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: sarge1m19
No one nudges the deputies union to do anything. The deputies union does what the deputies feel is best. I'd thank you to keep your expert opinion on union matters to yourself unless you have first hand information which you don't because you are not a member.
The State Police and the Penn Yan Police have also endorsed Casella because he is honest,intelligent and a good family man who if the polls are right will be Yates County's next District Attorney.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/04/17 02:33 PM

five UNION members out of ten voted to endorse, Neither the Penn Yan Police Department or the Penn Yan Police Benevolent Association voted to endorse anyone.

Bob, is your imaginary scientific poll based on the number of signs Casella has stuck on the right of ways around the Village and county?

Casella must be intelligent to have made it thru law school, well on second thought listing three different addresses on his petitions doesn't show brilliance. Honesty is questionable. Lets go with he is a good family man.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/04/17 04:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
five UNION members out of ten voted to endorse, Neither the Penn Yan Police Department or the Penn Yan Police Benevolent Association voted to endorse anyone.

Bob, is your imaginary scientific poll based on the number of signs Casella has stuck on the right of ways around the Village and county?

Casella must be intelligent to have made it thru law school, well on second thought listing three different addresses on his petitions doesn't show brilliance. Honesty is questionable. Lets go with he is a good family man.
Gardner's mailing to all addresses in Yates County Thursday that included Yates County buildings violated the State's election laws, that wasn't a smart move by a sitting DA and the photo of a beautify baby and Val that was taken 4 years ago only shows Val can't be honest or face reality "not her baby and not what the child or Val really look like today so let's just forget the question is Val a good mother or wife.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/05/17 08:43 AM

I see you are getting your information direct from Casella's garbage cartel. If what you say is true someone may have made a mistake in a mailing. Yates County is in for a treat if Casella keeps you as a consultant in his future!

That pales in comparsion to filing documents with false information to a public entity and Casella trying to deceive the court when testifying.

Yeah Bob, you should just forget the stupid question you have raised. On Wednesday you can move onto your next mission to save Yates County.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/05/17 08:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
I see you are getting your information direct from Casella's garbage cartel. If what you say is true someone may have made a mistake in a mailing. Yates County is in for a treat if Casella keeps you as a consultant in his future!

That pales in comparsion to filing documents with false information to a public entity and Casella trying to deceive the court when testifying.

Yeah Bob, you should just forget the stupid question you have raised. On Wednesday you can move onto your next mission to save Yates County.


Well Geneo Gardner's camp is blaming you for her defeat, you are her mistake.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/05/17 09:28 AM

When you learn how to correctly spell a four letter word I will consider what you have to say! smile
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/05/17 09:21 PM

Casella in attempt to get the second amendment supporters has announced that if elected he will not prosecute violations of the SAFE act.
When Cuomo finds out he will remove Casella from any ability to handle any SAFE violation arrests in Yates County and appoint someone else to handle them if he is elected.

Ms. Gardner is a second amendment supported with an "A" rating from "SCOPE". She has not made any such announcement so she will be able to handle SAFE violation arrests when re-elected.

She knows enough not to make such a public statement which would cause Cuomo to remove her from handling these cases in a pro-second amendment manner.

Casella's inexperience shows up again. A District Attorney cannot announce they will not enforce a law!
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 05:16 AM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PENN YAN POLICE ENDORSES CASELLA FOR YATES D.A.

(Penn Yan, NY) The organization representing the men and women of the Penn Yan Police has endorsed challenger Todd Casella in next week’s election for Yates County District Attorney. The New York State Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, Local 3515P, announced the move in a letter this week following a vote by their members.

This endorsement comes on the heels of Casella’s previous law enforcement endorsements from the Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union (representing the members of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office), New York State Troopers Police Benevolent Association, and Steuben County Association of Police Chiefs.

Casella’s opponent, incumbent Valerie Gardner, has not received a single endorsement from a law enforcement or police agency – a telling indication of their dismal view of Gardner’s tenure as D.A.

In their letter of endorsement, Local 3515P President Wayne Marsh and Vice President Jeffrey Stewart said, “After very careful consideration the members of the Local 3515P of the NYS Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, has voted to endorse you for Yates County District Attorney. Our community and our officers have been engaged in (a) fight to keep our people from the grips of dangerous and deadly narcotic addiction. Open communication between Law Enforcement and the District Attorney’s Office is vital in this battle.”

“The breakdown of communication between the D.A.’s Office and law enforcement has been caused by Valerie Gardner and needs to be fixed,” Casella said. “In order for justice to prevail, law enforcement and prosecutors must be able to work together for the benefit of the public.”

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7. Mr. Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.


Crickets....?
Tomorrow show Law Enforcement Officers we hear them and we have their backs by voting for the candidate they have endorsed Todd Casella.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 08:21 AM

Last time you had a law enforcement officers back you hit him over the head!

Has nothing to do with "having their backs" The District Attorney serves all the people of the county and should not be seen as being pressured by Law Enforcement on how to dispose of cases.

Cops are taught in basic school not to worry about disposition of cases, its not their job.
Posted by: Sam the Sham

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 09:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Mean Gene
Originally Posted By: helpme
MG could you please explain why the New York State Police, the Yates County Sheriff Department and now the Penn Yan Police Union have all endorsed Casella instead of Gardner.



OK Bob, you asked and I will give you my perspective on it:

1. The police profession is a male dominated profession, probably more so in Yates County.
2. Police officers tend to have large ego's.

I don't think you will find too many people who will argue with those two statements.

Here is anecdotal recent history of Yates County. The previous District Attorney tried only two cases during his term in County court and lost them both. His DWI conviction rate slipped below what it had been running under the District Attorney before him. (female) The state police union and "retired" state police union endorsed him when Ms. Gardner ran against him. They certainly could not have been endorsing him on his job performance. Ms. Gardner defeated him despite his statewide endorsement by the state police union.

IMHO police officers in general are more comfortable dealing with a male authority. They like to yuk it up about hunting, baseball and football. They will never admit it, but they would rather answer to a male than a female. I call it latent sexism.

The District Attorney should be viewed by the public as independent of police influence when judging how to dispose of cases. The judge has the final say on sentencing.



I'm curious. Hasn't Yates County had at least two prior female district attorneys? In your experience what were relations like between them and the police unions?
Posted by: Purification

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 11:52 AM

Good afternoon Sam, I was told yesterday by a distinguished man in blue(who is not supporting Casella)that the people in law enforcement treated Susan L so bad that they would even make her cry in meetings. Mean Gene is correct - They do not like to have to answer to a women.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 12:35 PM

I was told by..... Cmon if your going to spew something so lacking in proof and no definitive way of finding proof, at least identify the one that said it. This is such a sham its not funny. There is a lot at stake and a lot of us dumb voters are looking to find answers before a deciding vote is cast. And on here this is what we got. Either tell us who told you this, or get Susan l. To post about how bad she was treated.
Posted by: Purification

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 01:17 PM

Good Afternoon PY.Eternal, I will ask the distinguished man in blue if its ok to identify his name. You Casella supports want everyone to believe that all law enforcement supports Casella and thats simply is not the case. So let me get this straight - The ada lied on his petitions, the court said he lied and took him off the republican line, and now his supporters are calling the voters dumb. You cant make this up!!
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 02:32 PM

Good afternoon to you as well and welcome aboard. I believe I included myself in the dumb voter comment, nice try spinning it though, tactic learned from others on here no doubt. Please don't construe that I am a Casella or Gardner supporter. I simply am looking for evidence to show one way or the other whom is the better choice, and why. However, I would like to hear it from someone who is impartial, not someone who is clearly in the back pocket of one of the candidates. These are so many assumptions and nonsense thrown out by a few on here that, when questioned on the source of their info, get defensive and start attacking each other. That only makes the candidates look bad. I highly doubt your source will want his or her name put out, but kudos to him or her if they do. What I do find troubling is when people speak of situations as if they know what goes on behind closed doors, or press their opinions as to what's right or wrong.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 05:33 PM

You just did make it up.
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella for DA - 11/06/17 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: py.eternal.cynic
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PENN YAN POLICE ENDORSES CASELLA FOR YATES D.A.

(Penn Yan, NY) The organization representing the men and women of the Penn Yan Police has endorsed challenger Todd Casella in next week’s election for Yates County District Attorney. The New York State Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, Local 3515P, announced the move in a letter this week following a vote by their members.

This endorsement comes on the heels of Casella’s previous law enforcement endorsements from the Yates County COPS Law Enforcement Union (representing the members of the Yates County Sheriff’s Office), New York State Troopers Police Benevolent Association, and Steuben County Association of Police Chiefs.

Casella’s opponent, incumbent Valerie Gardner, has not received a single endorsement from a law enforcement or police agency – a telling indication of their dismal view of Gardner’s tenure as D.A.

In their letter of endorsement, Local 3515P President Wayne Marsh and Vice President Jeffrey Stewart said, “After very careful consideration the members of the Local 3515P of the NYS Law Enforcement Officers Union, Council 82, has voted to endorse you for Yates County District Attorney. Our community and our officers have been engaged in (a) fight to keep our people from the grips of dangerous and deadly narcotic addiction. Open communication between Law Enforcement and the District Attorney’s Office is vital in this battle.”

“The breakdown of communication between the D.A.’s Office and law enforcement has been caused by Valerie Gardner and needs to be fixed,” Casella said. “In order for justice to prevail, law enforcement and prosecutors must be able to work together for the benefit of the public.”

Mr. Casella is an experienced prosecutor who currently serves as an Assistant District Attorney in Steuben County. He has personally handled more than 4,000 cases (including more than 600 felonies) and taken more than 40 cases to trial in the courtroom.

The General Election for Yates County District Attorney will be held on Tuesday, November 7. Mr. Casella is a Republican who will appear on the Independence and Reform Party ballot lines.


Crickets....?
Thank you Officers for standing up and doing what is right, Casella is God sent.
Posted by: Laketrout

Re: Casella for DA - 11/07/17 09:30 AM

Hopefully Gene Mitchell is proven as wrong as he was when Cook destroyed Garner in the County Court race and was elected for a ten year term.

I wonder if Gene will be misusing his dealer plates again to drive to the polls. Such a high ethical standard. Preach about ethics, honesty, and the law. Then directly violate a vehicle and traffic law repeatedly that say dealer plates are not to be used for family members personal benefit at will.

No surprise with who he is back in this race.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/07/17 07:32 PM

Ha Ha, Lake trout, you are late to the party. who did Cook destroy? He is lucky there were two other opponents. The majority of the voters voted for the other two candidates.

If Casella wins this the Republicans will have bit off their nose to spite their face. They can then say their endorsed candidate lost two D.A. races in a row!

There is no question Casella was recruited by some of the disgruntled republicans to beat Ms. Gardner because she ran as an independent and defeated their golden boy.
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/07/17 07:40 PM

Well whoever wins I hope they serve the people of Yates County well.

If Casella wins I hope he remembers this quote "The sole job of a prosecutor is to see that justice is done".

If Ms. Gardner is re-elected I am guessing she will reach out to Law Enforcement to see what they feel is lacking in communication. LE never gave a specific reason why they threw her under the bus. I am betting the majority of them can't say they had a case they feel she did not dispose of properly.
Posted by: Hot Burrito

Re: Casella for DA - 11/07/17 07:42 PM

Can we agree that, whomever wins, his or her supporters quit the board forever?
Posted by: Mean Gene

Re: Casella for DA - 11/07/17 07:48 PM

ha ha, Good one Burrito. There are some people on here who have been kicked off more than once and keep coming back. Everyone knows who I am, they are free to take pot shots at me. I have been verbally assaulted by many over the years, I can take it and will dish it out on occasion. smile
Posted by: newsman38

Casella wins - 11/07/17 09:41 PM

DISTRICT ATTORNEY for Yates County
Yates County: reported: Ballots:
Todd Casella 52%
Posted by: helpme

Re: Casella wins - 11/07/17 09:47 PM

Welcome to Yates County Todd Casella and family.
Posted by: Laketrout

Re: Casella wins - 11/08/17 08:53 AM

It appears Gene's endorsements are now officially the "kiss of death"
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella wins - 11/09/17 08:08 PM

Wow. There were some interestti outcomes in this past election. I wonder if the incumbent ever thinks they may lose. Maybe in the Da race locally but more so in the sheriff’s race in Monroe County. Any thoughts on the Da results? Will he keep any of the current staff?
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella wins - 11/09/17 08:25 PM

What do you think the Deciding factors in out Da race? Was it the women hater theory of Genes? Or was it the lies that Gene thought he was telling? Something had to click with voters. I wonder what it was.
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella wins - 11/10/17 08:22 PM

My guess is he's going to clean house. Maybe mean gene will be his secretary...lol
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella wins - 11/10/17 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
What do you think the Deciding factors in out Da race? Was it the women hater theory of Genes? Or was it the lies that Gene thought he was telling? Something had to click with voters. I wonder what it was.
I think Gene backing Gardner cost her a few hundred votes!
Posted by: Laketrout

Re: Casella wins - 11/11/17 09:31 AM

When when Lindermouth was DA the three police agencies did not endorse her opponent. When Gardner was DA they did. Seems to fly in the face of Gene's woman hater theory. Of course most people that backed Casella were thrilled with Gene's rhetoric. It was invaluable to his victory. Especially his no factual letter to the editor right before the election.

From all Casella's supporters:

THANKYOU GENE
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella wins - 11/11/17 06:38 PM

I'd find it very hard to believe in this day and age that anyone in law enforcement in the small county of Yates would have any issue working with a woman as da. Many years ago there was one (SL) who by all accounts was wonderful. There have also been many women Ada's. That was merely gene throwing as much nonsense out there as he could to muddy the water. I think most people took it for that desperate act that it was, and maybe made the voting decision easier for some. I know it did for me and my friends and family. Yates county is too small for such nonsense.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella wins - 11/12/17 08:59 PM

No comments from Gene! He must be on the third floor at S&S!
Posted by: py.eternal.cynic

Re: Casella wins - 11/13/17 07:19 PM

Crickets again.
Posted by: cheesehead

Re: Casella wins - 11/13/17 08:24 PM

He has better things to do than answer our meaningless questions.
Posted by: Laketrout

Re: Casella wins - 11/14/17 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: cheesehead
He has better things to do than answer our meaningless questions.



Yeah like go into hiding until another one of his cronies runs again. Then he will be happy to give out his "expert" opinions.

More than likely Casella cleans house in that office. There are some good people in that office though and its hard to find good people to come to yates county. Time will tell.
Posted by: gassy one

Re: Casella wins - 11/19/17 06:59 PM

WHERE'S GENE? LOL!