Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF

Posted by: oops12

Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:06 PM

Press Release
3/10/09

On 03-10-09 at approx 1:51pm SFPD arrested Jessica M. McMann age 31 of 49 Bridge St Seneca Falls, NY on an arrest warrant for Violation of a Conditional Discharge. McMann is accused of violating her Conditional Discharge after being arrested by the NYSP for DWI on 03-10-09. McMann was arraigned in the Town of Seneca Falls Court and committed to the Seneca Co Correctional Facility in lieu of $2500cash/$5000 ins bond. McMann is to reappear in Town Court on 03-25-09 at 0900 hrs.


Now, I'd say she's one that's keeping the SFPD busy!!!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:23 PM

Didn't she just have an accident back in Jan???
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Didn't she just have an accident back in Jan???

Probably 4 or 5 of them! I remember this girl could take out 10 people on her own at a bar back in the day!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:28 PM

do tell....
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:29 PM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Didn't she just have an accident back in Jan???

Probably 4 or 5 of them! I remember this girl could take out 10 people on her own at a bar back in the day!


I wouldn't go that far.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Didn't she just have an accident back in Jan???

Probably 4 or 5 of them! I remember this girl could take out 10 people on her own at a bar back in the day!


I wouldn't go that far.

alrite .. maybe slice some necks with broken beer bottles!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:31 PM

See, now you're on it.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:32 PM

She's still going strong, has quite the parties at her house on Bridge St...well, did have parties....not anymore since she's in the clinker.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:32 PM

Oh I remember that....what ever happened to that guy she hurt???
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Didn't she just have an accident back in Jan???

Probably 4 or 5 of them! I remember this girl could take out 10 people on her own at a bar back in the day!


I wouldn't go that far.

alrite .. maybe slice some necks with broken beer bottles!
Hence, prision time 1.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Oh I remember that....what ever happened to that guy she hurt???

Thats another can of worms . . .you sure you want to open that one?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:36 PM

sure go for it
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Oh I remember that....what ever happened to that guy she hurt???


He ended up ok. I remember when she was arrested for breaking into a bark in Fayette. She crapped on the bar and had to admitt that in court! She's got some class. I'll never forget that one.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:38 PM

NO WAY...OMG now I HAVE heard it all

you just can't fix crazy.. wow, yikes and holy cow
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:39 PM

I don't know about that just yet.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:43 PM

[quote=Roadtrip2nowhere]NO WAY...OMG now I HAVE heard it all

I thought that myself when I learned she stole her grandparents checks and wrote over $5000 worth of checks.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:45 PM

I have no clue who this is. I feel so left out.
Posted by: seneca_lady

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:46 PM

i dont know her personally but have heard the name over and over again ...
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:46 PM

yes that was really quite sad.
She'll have to answer to that one. She lost custody of her son last week. She's on a pretty fast downward spiral.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Della
I have no clue who this is. I feel so left out.


Don't feel left out. Feel blessed.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:47 PM

I guess so...
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Oh I remember that....what ever happened to that guy she hurt???


He ended up ok. I remember when she was arrested for breaking into a bark in Fayette. She crapped on the bar and had to admitt that in court! She's got some class. I'll never forget that one.

She broke into the bar for the sake of leaving a doo-doo on the bar? Talk about being a crappy tipper!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
yes that was really quite sad.
She'll have to answer to that one. She lost custody of her son last week. She's on a pretty fast downward spiral.


It couldn't have happened to a nicer person.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:49 PM

oh too funny
Posted by: seneca_lady

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:51 PM

the son is probably better off ... its tough raising a son from prison ...
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:53 PM

I doubt she wants to raise either of her children. He hasn't yet.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:54 PM

sadly she wasn't actually raising him while out of prison. She has an 11-12 year old daughter, beautiful little girl that the grandmother is raising.
Booze and drugs are more important to her at the moment \:\(
Posted by: seneca_lady

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:54 PM

so did this arrest come because of the jan accident when she got a dwi ?
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
sadly she wasn't actually raising him while out of prison. She has an 11-12 year old daughter, beautiful little girl that the grandmother is raising.
Booze and drugs are more important to her at the moment \:\(

Are booze and drugs an aphrodisiac for her?
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:57 PM

I don't think she needs any help.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:57 PM

She was in court for stealing checks from her grandparents on Tuesday. The arrest came from ANOTHER case where she damaged property and was supposed to stay out of trouble....the Aggravated DWI arrest violated the agreement and she was arrested right there in court Tuesday
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:58 PM

I don't know how stealing the checks didn't violate the agreement. HUM..
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:58 PM

she didn't get a DWI after the Jan. accident. She was arrested for DWI monday night early Tues. morning
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:58 PM

"She broke into the bar for the sake of leaving a doo-doo on the bar? Talk about being a crappy tipper!" [quote SFisWonderful]



THAT was funny!!!
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:58 PM

I feel so sad for her and her children
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:59 PM

hello oops keep up lol.....the checks came before the the agreement to stay out of trouble. I think she was waiting for the court date at that time \:\)
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 07:59 PM

Me too...nobody sets out to be this way.
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:00 PM

Why, with a history like this, is this person walking around free?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:00 PM

I think a flow chart would help...let me get my pen...
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:01 PM

that is the 64 million dollar question
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:02 PM

you have NO idea what she's done...this barely scratches the surface
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
hello oops keep up lol.....the checks came before the the agreement to stay out of trouble. I think she was waiting for the court date at that time \:\)


I thought the property damage happened first. Where's the flow chart?
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
sadly she wasn't actually raising him while out of prison. She has an 11-12 year old daughter, beautiful little girl that the grandmother is raising.
Booze and drugs are more important to her at the moment \:\(

11-12? I think thats when mommy got her start!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:03 PM

I think so yes you are correct
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:03 PM

patience.... think I'll refresh my coffee....
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: senecamom
patience.... think I'll refresh my coffee....

coffee?? not wine?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:05 PM

you are correct oops but you see the check thing happened before she went to court to make an agreement on the property damage thing so becasue of the time laspe there wasn't an agreement in place so no trouble for the checks .....yet he he he
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:06 PM

does she have her own chair in the court room? where is village court these days?
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:06 PM

I caught on, just after you told me to wake up. It's been a long day ya know.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:07 PM

on Virginia St.
I'm thinking the check forgeries will move her up to a felony....
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:07 PM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
does she have her own chair in the court room? where is village court these days?

The old St. Pats
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:08 PM

oh sorry oops my new friend please forgive me...I do understand it is alot of information to digest!!!
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:08 PM

Maybe she can visit confessions after!
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:08 PM

Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?
Posted by:

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: RedGreen
Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
does she have her own chair in the court room? where is village court these days?

The old St. Pats



That's Town Court.

I believe Village Court is still on State Street, no?
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
oh sorry oops my new friend please forgive me...I do understand it is alot of information to digest!!!


It's all good.
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?

I made 1 post answering a question???
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:10 PM

I wasn't necessarily talking to you RG. I think if you see it says "you all" and you aren't "all" at all! If you know what I mean. It was a general question thrown out to the stone throwers.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:10 PM

Get a grip she only replied to your post she wasn't talking to you.
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Festus!
Originally Posted By: RedGreen
Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
does she have her own chair in the court room? where is village court these days?

The old St. Pats



That's Town Court.

I believe Village Court is still on State Street, no?

No. I`m 100% sure on this one Village court is in the old school.
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Della
Get a grip she only replied to your post she wasn't talking to you.

ok.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?


She's a horrible person.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:13 PM

Doesn't mean her kids asked for this. Just think of how it is/will be for them.
Posted by:

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
I wasn't necessarily talking to you RG. I think if you see it says "you all" and you aren't "all" at all! If you know what I mean. It was a general question thrown out to the stone throwers.



That's right!

Everyone knows that Della is ALL of us, you, them -- whatever.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:13 PM

you know it does sound glee-full but step into my office and let me see if I can make you see the light:
She just stole her grandparents check book and wrote 5000.00 dollars of forged checks
Her grandparents are old AND sick AND have given her everything and she repays them like that??
She planted drugs in her Aunts car
she neglected her son by having underage drinking parties in her home
she lies, steals should I go on???
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:13 PM

I feel sorry for her kids. I truely believe they are better off without her.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
I wasn't necessarily talking to you RG. I think if you see it says "you all" and you aren't "all" at all! If you know what I mean. It was a general question thrown out to the stone throwers.

I think she would appreciate the following! This girl started the BAD GIRLS CLUB!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
you know it does sound glee-full but step into my office and let me see if I can make you see the light:
She just stole her grandparents check book and wrote 5000.00 dollars of forged checks
Her grandparents are old AND sick AND have given her everything and she repays them like that??
She planted drugs in her Aunts car
she neglected her son by having underage drinking parties in her home
she lies, steals should I go on???


Well, you did leave a few things out.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
you know it does sound glee-full but step into my office and let me see if I can make you see the light:
She just stole her grandparents check book and wrote 5000.00 dollars of forged checks
Her grandparents are old AND sick AND have given her everything and she repays them like that??
She planted drugs in her Aunts car
she neglected her son by having underage drinking parties in her home
she lies, steals should I go on???

Where is your LIBERAL side? Doesnt everyone deserve a 300th chance?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:15 PM

she IS the bad girls club!
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
I feel sorry for her kids. I truely believe they are better off without her.


They very well may be but this is going to be very difficult for them forever. I can't see deriving pleasure from that.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:17 PM

I don't get pleasure from that.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:17 PM

I think she used up 300 and is headed for 500. It's really sad. It does look like she's getting beat up on but you know the buck stops when you rob your elderly sick grandparents. really how low does you moral compass have to point to rob old people???
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?


She's a horrible person.


Horrible person? She's a person. Horrible choices, terrible consequences...but no one starts out to be like this. And we all make some bad decisions and do some really stupid things. I'm incredibly grateful that my mistakes aren't held up to such public scrutiny. It's sad, very sad.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
I think she used up 300 and is headed for 500. It's really sad. It does look like she's getting beat up on but you know the buck stops when you rob your elderly sick grandparents. really how low does you moral compass have to point to rob old people???

. . .that you're RELATED to!
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
you know it does sound glee-full but step into my office and let me see if I can make you see the light:
She just stole her grandparents check book and wrote 5000.00 dollars of forged checks
Her grandparents are old AND sick AND have given her everything and she repays them like that??
She planted drugs in her Aunts car
she neglected her son by having underage drinking parties in her home
she lies, steals should I go on???


I fail to see how it helps either her or her children to be publicly scourged like this. And you ARE taking delight in it which is even more sad.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:19 PM

no pleasure at all Della. The little girl has seen more that most adults, and time will only tell if she follows the same path. Thank goodness she has been with her grandmother since Jessica's first prison stint
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:19 PM

There but for the grace of God.
Posted by:

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:19 PM

Apparently she is quite a character. I can't find the FLT article, yet, but she was involved in an MVA in Waterloo a few weeks ago.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?


She's a horrible person.


Horrible person? She's a person. Horrible choices, terrible consequences...but no one starts out to be like this. And we all make some bad decisions and do some really stupid things. I'm incredibly grateful that my mistakes aren't held up to such public scrutiny. It's sad, very sad.


Come on. She's 31 years old. She's been in prison 3 times. She's in jail right now. She is constantly effecting everyone's lives with her horrible actions. She will never stop.
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?


She's a horrible person.


Horrible person? She's a person. Horrible choices, terrible consequences...but no one starts out to be like this. And we all make some bad decisions and do some really stupid things. I'm incredibly grateful that my mistakes aren't held up to such public scrutiny. It's sad, very sad.

Yes. . .you are all going about this wrong! Let's start a fundraiser to help her and the kids out!

We can put jars around the village at local businesses. Maybe a BBQ when the weather gets nice. bikini car washes.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:21 PM

actually no delight...relief that her reign of terror on her family may be over. They're the ones left to pick up the pcs.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Seriously, why are you all so gleeful about this poor woman and her horrible problems?


She's a horrible person.


Horrible person? She's a person. Horrible choices, terrible consequences...but no one starts out to be like this. And we all make some bad decisions and do some really stupid things. I'm incredibly grateful that my mistakes aren't held up to such public scrutiny. It's sad, very sad.

Yes. . .you are all going about this wrong! Let's start a fundraiser to help her and the kids out!

We can put jars around the village at local businesses. Maybe a BBQ when the weather gets nice. bikini car washes.


That's funny!
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:23 PM

I don't think that's at all what I'm implying here. What I think is disgusting is how DELIGHTED you are with it. You feel no compassion for her kids, her family...or even, dare I suggest...HER. I repeat...not a single one of us starts out WANTING to be what she has apparently become, but it happens and we may not ever know WHY and we may abhor her actions but I don't think we should take away her humanity.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no pleasure at all Della. The little girl has seen more that most adults, and time will only tell if she follows the same path. Thank goodness she has been with her grandmother since Jessica's first prison stint


Listen I don't know this woman. From what I've read she deserves punishment my point is the kids don't and I find it very sad that everyone seems so happy. There are many people I dislike but I would rather see them stay out of trouble than to have their kids experience what these kids have and will live with. Every comment you make on the internet will be there forever.
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:24 PM

Thank you Della, I see you understand what I was trying to say...and said it better than I could have.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:27 PM

no one is punishing the kids. where do you get that from? The kids are safe with other families, away from the madness...
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no one is punishing the kids. where do you get that from? The kids are safe with other families, away from the madness...

You don`t think they might read this sometime?
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Thank you Della, I see you understand what I was trying to say...and said it better than I could have.


Drop the donation jar at my house next time you're in town. For Crissakes show a tiny bit of compassion and your excusing her actions.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:29 PM

hum never thought of that thanks for pointing it out. How insensitive of me, I will stop commenting now.
Good evening to all
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:30 PM

Originally Posted By: RedGreen
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no one is punishing the kids. where do you get that from? The kids are safe with other families, away from the madness...

You don`t think they might read this sometime?


They are old enough to hear all about it at school. Sad.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:30 PM

I'm not saying it's not at all possible, probably doubtful.
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Della
Get a grip she only replied to your post she wasn't talking to you.


I heart you Della \:\)
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
I wasn't necessarily talking to you RG. I think if you see it says "you all" and you aren't "all" at all! If you know what I mean. It was a general question thrown out to the stone throwers.


You go girl ;\)
Posted by: Ding Dong

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Della
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no pleasure at all Della. The little girl has seen more that most adults, and time will only tell if she follows the same path. Thank goodness she has been with her grandmother since Jessica's first prison stint


Listen I don't know this woman. From what I've read she deserves punishment my point is the kids don't and I find it very sad that everyone seems so happy. There are many people I dislike but I would rather see them stay out of trouble than to have their kids experience what these kids have and will live with. Every comment you make on the internet will be there forever.



If the kids are old enough to read it here, don't you think they might see it in the police beat?
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Della
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no pleasure at all Della. The little girl has seen more that most adults, and time will only tell if she follows the same path. Thank goodness she has been with her grandmother since Jessica's first prison stint


Listen I don't know this woman. From what I've read she deserves punishment my point is the kids don't and I find it very sad that everyone seems so happy. There are many people I dislike but I would rather see them stay out of trouble than to have their kids experience what these kids have and will live with. Every comment you make on the internet will be there forever.

Well lets change the subject. Whatever happened with the Peterman Apt case?
Posted by: SFisWonderful

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Ding Dong
Originally Posted By: Della
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no pleasure at all Della. The little girl has seen more that most adults, and time will only tell if she follows the same path. Thank goodness she has been with her grandmother since Jessica's first prison stint


Listen I don't know this woman. From what I've read she deserves punishment my point is the kids don't and I find it very sad that everyone seems so happy. There are many people I dislike but I would rather see them stay out of trouble than to have their kids experience what these kids have and will live with. Every comment you make on the internet will be there forever.



If the kids are old enough to read it here, don't you think they might see it in the police beat?

The kids dont know any better. They probably think this is status quo and this is how every family is in America.
Posted by: skeptical

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 08:49 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
I don't think that's at all what I'm implying here. What I think is disgusting is how DELIGHTED you are with it. You feel no compassion for her kids, her family...or even, dare I suggest...HER. I repeat...not a single one of us starts out WANTING to be what she has apparently become, but it happens and we may not ever know WHY and we may abhor her actions but I don't think we should take away her humanity.



Would you feel the same way about a man who beat his wife/girlfriend over and over and over?
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 09:32 PM

I'm just glad in her rampant escapades she didn't kill anyone- it appears she is capable of irreperable damage; beyond the psche' of her kids and family; in fact a danger to society and sometimes retribution involves public humiliation. She appears to have lost the ability to not only not care for herself but is likely detrimental to her children. I take no delight in the facts. jmo


Additionally, I think the justice system has failed her and society....
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
no one is punishing the kids. where do you get that from? The kids are safe with other families, away from the madness...


If I may cut in here a bit. Jessica got her upbringing from her mother which now has Jessica's kids. Just how do you think these kids are going to turn out now? Either way, if mom raises them (or not) or Grandma raises them, I feel their outcome is going to be the same. I read in another post here that the justice system has failed her. I do hope you're kidding. This girl has had more chances in her life for her wrong doings than a thousand people have had. I think that is why she continues to do what she does. Someone always gives her breaks or bails her out somehow.
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Originally Posted By: Della
Get a grip she only replied to your post she wasn't talking to you.


I heart you Della \:\)


Can I watch?
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/12/09 10:32 PM

Thats the failure- too many breaks and never forced to pay the consequence. So the justice system failed her and society.
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/13/09 06:03 AM

Originally Posted By: handyman
Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Originally Posted By: Della
Get a grip she only replied to your post she wasn't talking to you.


I heart you Della \:\)


Can I watch?


Sorry HandyManny..NO!
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/13/09 10:25 AM

Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/13/09 10:30 AM

I know right? She is no fun.
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/13/09 10:32 AM

I'm SOOOOOOOOOO left out
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/13/09 10:32 AM

Well if it were up to me...
Posted by: VM Smith

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/13/09 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Della
Well if it were up to me...


Can I watch?
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/13/09 11:00 AM

Sparky said no.
Posted by: VM Smith

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/13/09 11:05 AM

Can I just watch you?
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/14/09 04:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Della
Sparky said no.


I guess we should talk about this,yes?
Posted by: Badge420

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/14/09 07:05 AM

i have nevr been proder of a few of you than i am right now






but for the grace of God go i
Posted by: Snow Lion

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/14/09 07:12 AM

Is there a father to these children around somewhere?
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/14/09 07:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Snow Lion
Is there a father to these children around somewhere?


It sure doesn't seem like there is,does it \:\(
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 07:29 AM

I do realize after it was pointed out that the kids may someday read things about their mother, but as someone posted, it's in Police Beat also...guess there are two ways of thinking about it.

It also amazes me how people read things and take it the wrong way and get so bent! Take a breath! We all feel for the children but as someone who has witnessed first hand what this woman is capable of, yes there is relief (not joy or glee) that she is someplace; for the moment anyway where she cannot reek more havoc on her family.

Walk a mile you know.......since you handyman have actual knowledge of J and know what she is capable of then you can understand the path of destruction she's able to create. She's like the 900 pound gorilla in the room nobody wants to acknowledge. That's pretty much the way the family operates, shove money and gifts at people and that's love, and it's always someone else's fault, that way "we" don't have to admit there is a problem.

To tell you the truth, in a sick way it's not all Jessica's fault, her grandparents have a huge responsibility in all this. She was never as a child held accountable for ANYTHING, they are classic enablers. Poster people for dysfunctional!

As for fathers of these children: The father of the young boy has stepped up to the plate and has taken custody.....good for him! As for the 11-12 year old young girls dad, well he's not around much but I guess he tries.

In a perfect world I would like to see J dry out have some quality time in rehab, parenting classes, a REAL JOB....not money for all living expenses from her Grandparents...and a chance for a normal life. She's almost 32, let's suck it up and move on to bigger and better things! IMHO
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 07:47 AM

The police beat item is one thing...the repeating of a laundry list of this woman's sins is entirely another. Even if there weren't children involved...it's the glee (and it WAS glee) with which people approached this that sickened me. It's not an occasion for joy, for pete's sake; the woman is clearly trouble and troubled.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 07:49 AM

with all due respect review MY posts no glee
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 07:50 AM

I do agree there were posts with that intent
Posted by: Lori

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 09:00 AM

Border City Fireman alert. I was just about run over by a guy in a Black 1500 pick up this morning. A gentleman in a blue pick up came sailing by(speeding) with his red light on then this guy in a black 1500 pickup decides to put his emergency light on - and not a blue or red light. These guys were in such a hurry the fire truck wasn't even out of the garage. They went sailing by the Fire station to get there first. The fire truck still had not made it out of the station by the time I got to the overpass. The cars in front of these two were going 45(heaven forbid the speed limit). I think they should get rid of the volunteer fire dept's and go to a county wide paid dept., Where only marked fire truck vehicles respond, as Auburn does. These volunteer guys are going to kill someone someday. Also, buy a blue light for your truck if you want someone to yeild for you. Tailgaiting isn't going to get you past someone. Unfortunately I think a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch as they say, or at least the perception we get from these stupid antics.
Posted by: Lori

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 09:06 AM

I did try to get his plate number. I was going to call 911 to have him picked up. I got only 2 numbers though. I am sure they could have gotten him with just that. Especially knowing where he was going, or pretending to go. He may have been one of these guys that follow fires/accidents for all I know. It also occurred to me that he was heading in that direction well before the call came in for the fire, and the guy in the red light truck came by. Could he have knowledge of the origin of the fire if it is suspicious? Makes me wonder. It could have been a MVA, I don't know but the jerk needs a driving lesson.
Posted by: Animal Lover

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 09:17 AM

You are posting in the wrong thread.
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/14/09 09:48 AM

Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
Originally Posted By: Della
Sparky said no.


I guess we should talk about this,yes?



Discuss it over and get back to me ok?
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in - 03/14/09 09:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Snow Lion
Is there a father to these children around somewhere?



probably a couple of them somewhere around
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 10:01 AM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
The police beat item is one thing...the repeating of a laundry list of this woman's sins is entirely another. Even if there weren't children involved...it's the glee (and it WAS glee) with which people approached this that sickened me. It's not an occasion for joy, for pete's sake; the woman is clearly trouble and troubled.


I'm not sure if it's joy that anyone is getting from some elses misfortune but this person thats being discussed has been in trouble all of her life, given breaks, continued to get into trouble, went away for a bit to hopefully get straightened out and now she's back doing the same things. As someone said earlier, she's always been pampered and never really had any responsibilty of her own. When she attempts to do so, she reverts back to the only thing she knows. Foot loose and fancy free.
Posted by: shylynn

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 12:32 PM

I hope she is okay and wish her only the best.Came to my previous job,one day,very tipsy ,in the middle of the afternoon a few yrs ago.She said she had a high paying union job and was getting a degree.I dont feel she is stupid and still has a chance to change her life for the better if she chooses.We all do,in some way,but just arent all exposed.
Posted by: handyman

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 12:38 PM

I've never known her to have a union job but who knows? I wish the best for her too. I wish the best for everyone. I never like to see anybody down and out but sometimes, it takes hitting rock bottom to get back to the top.
Posted by: seneca_lady

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 02:28 PM

i feel sorry for the children of course....i DO NOT feel sorry for her... in life we make choices ... i would much rather stay drunk all day, steal checks, wreck families , and do all the other stuff she has done... BUT do i NO.... i go to work everyday ,go to my extra job, stay home with my child ..
have i gone down the wrong roads before ? ABSOLUTLY... did i pay for my mistakes OH YES... did i continuie the bad behavior ... HELL NO...i learned from my mistakes .... and that made me the person i am today ... jessica is not learning from her mistakes...fortunatly they stopped her before she killed someone...she has done this stuff because she has no fear of anything .... in my eyes she is a menace to society... hopefully it is not genetic and her children still can be productive in society ...
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/14/09 03:48 PM

She did have a union apprentice position painting, BUT that lasted about 3 months tops, she just quit showing up for work. Too bad as it was a pretty good gig. As for school, ah...sadly...not even close to going back to school. I think she gets these great ideas in her head and then gets them mixed up with what is truly reality. She doesn't tell the truth very often, even when she doesn't need to lie she does \:\(
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/17/09 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: seneca_lady
i feel sorry for the children of course....i DO NOT feel sorry for her... in life we make choices ... i would much rather stay drunk all day, steal checks, wreck families , and do all the other stuff she has done... BUT do i NO.... i go to work everyday ,go to my extra job, stay home with my child ..
have i gone down the wrong roads before ? ABSOLUTLY... did i pay for my mistakes OH YES... did i continuie the bad behavior ... HELL NO...i learned from my mistakes .... and that made me the person i am today ... jessica is not learning from her mistakes...fortunatly they stopped her before she killed someone...she has done this stuff because she has no fear of anything .... in my eyes she is a menace to society... hopefully it is not genetic and her children still can be productive in society ...


I'm soo on the same page. Thankfully, she hasn't hurt anyone else yet.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/17/09 06:53 PM

My luck, they'll have some Sunday school function and I'll just blow through it and get a ticket.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 02:41 PM

Anybody have any info on the girl she beat up? Just heard she hospitalized a 17 year old girl. Burnt her in the eye with a cigarette. I'm wondering if the girl is ok.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 03:51 PM

A 17 year old girl? Nice. What a shame. She still just doesn't get it.
Posted by: Buddy

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 04:22 PM

I don't think she ever will, she needs therapy rather than jail. But for the safety of others she will be back in prison. Sad, she has had so many chances to straighten up.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 04:30 PM

NO THERAPY...that woman is a menace to society! She's had hundreds of chances...heck she was just bailed out of jail last Sunday! And for all of you bleeding hearts....just so you know this poor excuse for a human being deserves EVERYTHING she has coming to her...AND....shame on her Grandfather for bailing her out.....his family begged him not to and now look what she has done!!!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF *DELETED* - 05/09/09 04:48 PM

Post deleted by FL1 Mod 2
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 04:52 PM

Right there with you oops! I know that saying "Those that anger you, control you" but for heaven sakes.....how many times does this woman have to scar someone before the justice system takes notice? I'm mad as hell too!
That poor girl, hopefully she will make a quick recovery. Prayers to her and her family....



oh and by the way:
Violation of CD
Agg. DWI
Indicted for 15 felony counts of forgery
and now this.....anyone DARE feel sorry for her now???? Bring it ON!!!
All this might just add up to a nice tidy sentence...considering she is a already 2x convicted felon....
Posted by:

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy
I don't think she ever will, she needs therapy rather than jail. But for the safety of others she will be back in prison. Sad, she has had so many chances to straighten up.


Let her get her therapy in prison.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 05:42 PM

YEP!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 05:47 PM

Too right!!! JM mantra when she gets into trouble: I will promise to go to rehab! Rehab in the big house...oh yea marry well in there too sweetheart!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/09/09 05:57 PM

Well Ms. Price will have some company when they find Jessica! They hang with the same croud, minors!

They can relate.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Right there with you oops! I know that saying "Those that anger you, control you" but for heaven sakes.....how many times does this woman have to scar someone before the justice system takes notice? I'm mad as hell too!
That poor girl, hopefully she will make a quick recovery. Prayers to her and her family....



oh and by the way:
Violation of CD
Agg. DWI
Indicted for 15 felony counts of forgery
and now this.....anyone DARE feel sorry for her now???? Bring it ON!!!
All this might just add up to a nice tidy sentence...considering she is a already 2x convicted felon....


I don't think anyone felt sorry for her. Just for the kids and I still do. As for bring it on...c'mon it's a message board.
Posted by: HeavenlyPlaces

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Right there with you oops! I know that saying "Those that anger you, control you" but for heaven sakes.....how many times does this woman have to scar someone before the justice system takes notice? I'm mad as hell too!
That poor girl, hopefully she will make a quick recovery. Prayers to her and her family....



oh and by the way:
Violation of CD
Agg. DWI
Indicted for 15 felony counts of forgery
and now this.....anyone DARE feel sorry for her now???? Bring it ON!!!
All this might just add up to a nice tidy sentence...considering she is a already 2x convicted felon....



Honestly, it's not about feeling sorry for her so much as disgust at the DELIGHT so many seem to feel for her downfall. Yeah, what she's done is terrible. Seriously. But it makes YOU so much less a person to take such delight in it.
Posted by: Cinnamon

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 06:05 AM

Delight at having another despicable person off the streets is understandable.
Posted by: The Mask

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 06:48 AM


IMHO She does these things because she has a big problem. She has to hit her own bottom and as sad as it is, prison may be it? At least maybe keep her clean and sober long enough to let her decide if she wants to continue down this path or not?
Posted by: The Mask

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 06:50 AM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Right there with you oops! I know that saying "Those that anger you, control you" but for heaven sakes.....how many times does this woman have to scar someone before the justice system takes notice? I'm mad as hell too!
That poor girl, hopefully she will make a quick recovery. Prayers to her and her family....



oh and by the way:
Violation of CD
Agg. DWI
Indicted for 15 felony counts of forgery
and now this.....anyone DARE feel sorry for her now???? Bring it ON!!!
All this might just add up to a nice tidy sentence...considering she is a already 2x convicted felon....



Honestly, it's not about feeling sorry for her so much as disgust at the DELIGHT so many seem to feel for her downfall. Yeah, what she's done is terrible. Seriously. But it makes YOU so much less a person to take such delight in it.


But for the grace of God go I.
Posted by:

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 06:52 AM

Is it possible this woman, like so many men, is just plain incorrigible?
Posted by: The Mask

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 07:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Festus!
Is it possible this woman, like so many men, is just plain incorrigible?


What did you call me? LOL
Posted by: The Mask

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 07:08 AM

Originally Posted By: The Mask
Originally Posted By: Festus!
Is it possible this woman, like so many men, is just plain incorrigible?


What did you call me? LOL


Never mind. That sounds about right.

in·cor·ri·gi·ble
: incapable of being corrected or amended: as a (1): not reformable : depraved (2): delinquent b: not manageable : unruly c: unalterable
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 08:34 AM

I take no delight in hearing about the way she constantly hurts people. I will however, take much delight, when she's locked back up! I can't write the words I feel for that "women". I feel sorry for her kids too. But they are safer and better off without her.

Incorrigible, yes. There's no sobering her up and seeing if she finds another way. She's been to prison 3 times. She just got out from this last arrest and she hasn't even been out of jail for a week and has contact with the cops twice now.

Her acts aren't always drug related. They're just Jessica related. She has been like this for years and so far a prison sentence hasn't helped her learn. So I hope this next sentence is a doosy. So then she'll be off the streets and they only people she can hurt are already in prison.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 08:36 AM

Are the kids with the grandparents who raised her?
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 08:41 AM

Her daugher is with her mother and her son is with it's father.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 08:42 AM

Ahhh thanks.
Posted by:

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: The Mask
Originally Posted By: The Mask
Originally Posted By: Festus!
Is it possible this woman, like so many men, is just plain incorrigible?


What did you call me? LOL


Never mind. That sounds about right.

in·cor·ri·gi·ble
: incapable of being corrected or amended: as a (1): not reformable : depraved (2): delinquent b: not manageable : unruly c: unalterable



That is NOT you, Maskie-Poo.

You, like myself, and Sky, and Benny (wherever he is), and a few others, are DEMENTED.
Posted by: enda

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 01:02 PM

Word on the teenage grapevine is that the victims name is Jessica and the person who did it is from Clyde. Not the infamous JMcM
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 03:57 PM

Time will tell. Because it happened in Lyons.
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 03:57 PM

Ok ! Well there is a couple of you posters that had and still
have your own personal problems to deal with, yet you feel
the need to bash this person..
I've reed in past post that some of you take personal meds
to keep your life in check,but i will not post those names.
She is one of those who choose to drink,rather than take her meds,and with out meds she was unstable. After all she was next to a bar well know to have drugs and drunks from i'm told.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 04:16 PM

She used to live on Bridge St. That was before she went to jail. Are you talking about the 3rd Ward? Of course, there are drunks there. It's a bar. I've never heard anything bad about that bar as far as it being a hotspot for drugs.

Off her meds?? Ok, that justifies everything then.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Della
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Right there with you oops! I know that saying "Those that anger you, control you" but for heaven sakes.....how many times does this woman have to scar someone before the justice system takes notice? I'm mad as hell too!
That poor girl, hopefully she will make a quick recovery. Prayers to her and her family....



oh and by the way:
Violation of CD
Agg. DWI
Indicted for 15 felony counts of forgery
and now this.....anyone DARE feel sorry for her now???? Bring it ON!!!
All this might just add up to a nice tidy sentence...considering she is a already 2x convicted felon....


I don't think anyone felt sorry for her. Just for the kids and I still do. As for bring it on...c'mon it's a message board.


What I think she meant is.. Some people try to defend or justify her actions. Now, she's off her meds. Come on....
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 04:30 PM

I truly didn't see anyone defending her actions. I reread the whole thing and still can't see anyone other than Convic defending her actions. I just found it to be a bit inflamatory to say that just because a few of us weren't gleeful over the situation.
Posted by: VM Smith

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 04:46 PM

"some of you take personal meds"

WTH does that mean? Is it when someone is not taking another person's meds?
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:05 PM

I try to only take my own.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:17 PM

I try to take my own too. But once and a while I slip!


And I don't even go to that bar.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:19 PM

I need to find someone with good stuff so I can slip. Plus I don't have anything good for myself. Just blood pressure meds which really don't create a buzz.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Convic 68-1563
Ok ! Well there is a couple of you posters that had and still
have your own personal problems to deal with, yet you feel
the need to bash this person..
I've reed in past post that some of you take personal meds
to keep your life in check,but i will not post those names.
She is one of those who choose to drink,rather than take her meds,and with out meds she was unstable. After all she was next to a bar well know to have drugs and drunks from i'm told.


Sounds like she made choices. She lived next to a bar. OK no one held a gun to her head and told her to go in. As for drugs if you want them you can find them. ANY bar will have someone with them available. It's wrong to put down an establishment for someones lack of restraint.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:44 PM

Someone has them somewhere.The sad thing is, she uses teenagers to get them for her.

You know what's sad is that many teenagers can get their hands on all kinds of drugs that many adults can't. They buy them alcohol in exchange.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Someone has them somewhere.The sad thing is, she uses teenagers to get them for her.

You know what's sad is that many teenagers can get their hands on all kinds of drugs that many adults can't. They buy them alcohol in exchange.


Honestly I would have no clue where to go to get them. It is sad and scary that my kids could probably find them faster.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:54 PM

That's what I'm talking about.

And we have people like her and Ms. Price helping them out.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 05:55 PM

I know I was agreeing \:\)
Posted by: dont_ask_sf

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 06:58 PM

it was jessica mcmann and another one who has been in the police beat recently>> Rachel VonBergan at a party in Clyde..The girl that was beat up's name is also Jessica and she's friends with my little sister. The one beat up broke up with mcmanns little brother and so her and rachel beat her and put a cigg out in her eye after..She's 100lbs soaking wet.Definatly didnt deserve this for breaking up with someone!
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 07:05 PM

I don't think anyone deserves that no matter their weight. I guess I'm floored I thought people on probation were checked for drugs/alcohol.
Posted by: dont_ask_sf

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 07:06 PM

agreed noone does deserve this
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: dont_ask_sf
it was jessica mcmann and another one who has been in the police beat recently>> Rachel VonBergan at a party in Clyde..The girl that was beat up's name is also Jessica and she's friends with my little sister. The one beat up broke up with mcmanns little brother and so her and rachel beat her and put a cigg out in her eye after..She's 100lbs soaking wet.Definatly didnt deserve this for breaking up with someone!


Rachel was the girl kicked in the head by Aaron Ward who was in the police beat a few weeks ago for this.
Posted by: ibepokenmore

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 09:52 PM

Those Poor Poor children. It is so sad it is sickening. Kids can be so cruel so if they are of school age you know they will be teased. I guess some parents juist don't care what their actions can do to their children.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/10/09 11:23 PM

Yeah, I think she's another one trying to make a scrapbook. I can't count how many times she's been in police beat in the last year. What'she's 19 (another teenager McMann is hanging out with)? She was also arrested for the incident with Aaron as far as I understand. Wasn't she arrested for comtempt of court for violating the order of protection?
Posted by: winner

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/11/09 04:16 PM

Wow oops sounds like you know her life story... That can't be good you've responded to just about every comment. Lucky you.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/11/09 08:26 PM

YES. .... And YES...

I can't deny the fact I can't stand her and I never will.... I think I've been pretty clear about that... I've known her for a long time. Well, since she was 15 :(. Is that long enough? Try to make whatever you want out of it, I'll still feel the same. Twist it around and make me look like that bad guy. OK.. do it if you please.,,I have big shoulders.....

You know her so well, what exactly has she done that's any good? NOTHING.....

I think You're the "Winner" on this one. So what do you have to justify her actions?....

What else do you want to hear? Believe me... I can go on and on....

She's a sick, twisted individual. And I've said it before...

I can see the good in anyone... Even if it's a bad good.

She's good at wrecking lives...

Now, we have a young teeneager with her face all messed up, that's too scared to go to the police... because of why????

I'm glad you're here to support her.....
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/11/09 08:34 PM

I can't even say what's good about her,,, I'd get banned for that.
Posted by: *Sparkey*

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 06:46 AM

Originally Posted By: oops12
I can't even say what's good about her,,, I'd get banned for that.


Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 07:24 AM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Her daugher is with her mother and her son is with it's father.


Well I happen to know her mother and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I wouldn't let her mother care for my dog...let alone my child. That's providing I had a dog. \:D
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 07:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Convic 68-1563
Ok ! Well there is a couple of you posters that had and still
have your own personal problems to deal with, yet you feel
the need to bash this person..
I've reed in past post that some of you take personal meds
to keep your life in check,but i will not post those names.
She is one of those who choose to drink,rather than take her meds,and with out meds she was unstable. After all she was next to a bar well know to have drugs and drunks from i'm told.


If you are referring to Deweys....you should get your facts straight! I know him personally.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 07:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Della
Originally Posted By: Convic 68-1563
Ok ! Well there is a couple of you posters that had and still
have your own personal problems to deal with, yet you feel
the need to bash this person..
I've reed in past post that some of you take personal meds
to keep your life in check,but i will not post those names.
She is one of those who choose to drink,rather than take her meds,and with out meds she was unstable. After all she was next to a bar well know to have drugs and drunks from i'm told.



Sounds like she made choices. She lived next to a bar. OK no one held a gun to her head and told her to go in. As for drugs if you want them you can find them. ANY bar will have someone with them available. It's wrong to put down an establishment for someones lack of restraint.


Actually I frequent Deweys...and I have never seen her in there the whole time she lived next door. She had house guests and drank there...I know that....so whoever said that is....well you know. \:\)
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 08:06 AM

Too bad you weren't there New Years eve Yetta....J treated the entire bar to drinks, compliments of her Grandparents via a forged check she wrote from the checks she stole from them...nice huh????
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 08:54 AM

Actually I was there New Years Eve....she caught my attention so much I must have missed that.
Posted by: winner

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 05:41 PM

Oops you need to calm down I never said I was on her side AT ALL and I DO NOT support her{ I never insinuated that I did support her}. She sounds like a complete loser. So don't get all worked up at me it's not my fault you hate her and have/had to associte with her throughout your life. Believe me it's not worth it, try to relax okay. We all know after reading your posts she's a skum, thiefing, lying, criminal.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/12/09 07:59 PM

Ok, thank you and I'm sorry.

I just can't wait until they catch her (them).

Did I mention that I can't wait??????
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF *DELETED* - 05/31/09 03:05 PM

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Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/31/09 03:14 PM

I don't think anyone wished her well. I believe most positive comments were directed towards the kids. I still stand behind what I said.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/31/09 03:38 PM

WOW...guess you DO know her!
Rumor has it that RV will take the hit for the assult of the 17 year old, JM off scott free again
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/31/09 04:24 PM

Say it ain't so.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/31/09 04:34 PM

Opps, I'm hoping it "aint so" I guess time will tell.
Posted by: Santa_Cruzer

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 05/31/09 04:37 PM

Casting that 'first stone' folks?


Lordy Be!
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF *DELETED* - 06/01/09 06:07 PM

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Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/01/09 06:12 PM

Well I know the mother of the 17yr old hates JM almost as much as I do and I doubt she will let her get away with it unless its out of her hands! I hope the pig rotts in prison where she belongs, they should never have let her out to begin with! If she does get away with any of this she is obviously doin favors for someone!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/01/09 06:40 PM

[quote=Foreal][/quote]
Dear "Foreal" person
JM's is the person she is today because that's what she chose She was taught right from wrong but continues to take the low road at every given chance. Leave her mother out of it.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/01/09 06:42 PM

"They" didn't let her out...the Grandfather keeps bailing her out
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/02/09 04:47 PM

They meaning prison after she smashed a beer bottle over a mans head almost killing him! Not talking about this last time! Read it right next time.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/02/09 09:25 PM

I missed your post. But you may not have been talking about this last time but her record before the beer bottle incident was quite the scroll. And continues......

"They" had to let her out as she did her time and I understand that. The thing that's disturbing is that she continues repeatedly to make these choices. Her 3 prison stints haven't learned her yet. This time she's hurt a young girl, which obviously sickens me. It wasn't an accident. She, at 32 years old, intentionally kicked the crap out of a 17 yr old kid. I don't believe this was in the heat of the moment (like that would make any difference), she.. I mean they... went looking for it.

For her to get away with it, she will continue to hurt others. Not just by fighting, her negligence and irresponsiblity and... well, I can't say it... because the bus is running waiting to pick me up!

I haven't talked to the 17 yr olds mother in a long time but I do believe her hands must be tied!
Posted by: memabeth

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 11:04 AM

I'm not so sure her daughter (that is living with the grandmother)will turn out much better. The grandmother-as much as I know of her- isn't home much-isn't a great influence-and didn't do well raising Jessica-so why do you think she'll do any better with the granddaughter?
R.V. was arrested for the assult on the girl in Lyons-guess she'll take the rap-but I also was informed the injured girl was dropping charges against her
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 01:48 PM

Listen...when you plant a potato...you get a potato....her mother was just as much a piece of crap. Maybe she should have been more of a mother than out at the bar screwing everyone. JMO.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 02:11 PM

I know what you're saying but when's the cut off date for being able to blame your parents for your actions?

From what I understand her mother has changed her ways and is trying to do right by everyone. These are her choices, not her mothers. I'm sure he mother has regrets and guilt and Jessica feeds off it, just like she does her grandparents.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 04:03 PM

Your parents mold you into who you are....there is no cutoff point. You can overcome and adapt....or you can sink into the pit of despair. I agree the responsibilty lies on her...however maybe if she had had a differnt life.....things would not have escalated to this point. It's like saying...."grow up and be the woman I raised you to be....can her mother say that"?
Posted by: enda

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 04:24 PM

Her mom may have been out in the bars at night but she was never one to beat people up or harm anyone. She was a lover not a fighter. And her mom also had her involved in sports and cheering and was on the sidelines cheering her on. And the daughter had grandparents who loved her. I think that sometimes people just have something that is just not right with there brains and JM is one of those people!! I happen to like her mom and give her alot of credit for being there for the daughter's daughter when she had no one else. Ya can't always blame the parents, I no 2 parent family's that I would of never thought of as failure parents who have kids in prison.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 04:31 PM

I know her mother too....sorry.....I don't have the same opinion.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 04:31 PM

....and I see she's back.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 04:39 PM

I consider myself to be a pretty good mother. I'm not perfect by any means. I'm really loving being the parent of a teenager right now. He finds a loophole in everything. And I agree with you Yetta on your parents molding you, but somewhere along the line you find out what's right or wrong. Whether it's from watching other people's mistakes or from making your own.

And I do agree with Enda, she's right Jessica never went without anything. She did model and cheerlead. Maybe her mother did spend alot of time at the bar but she also made sure she had everything she needed and did provide for her.

My kids stay at their friends house and I go out. I've gotten babysitters in the past so I could go out. Just because you're a mother doesn't mean you can't go to the bar sometimes. But I never miss a beat when it comes to being involved in their lives.

Her mother was always chasing her down because she was out of control and always running around or sneaking out. It's not because she just let her go off and do whatever.
Posted by: Old Broad

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Oh I remember that....what ever happened to that guy she hurt???


He ended up ok. I remember when she was arrested for breaking into a bark in Fayette. She crapped on the bar and had to admitt that in court! She's got some class. I'll never forget that one.


Sure she has alot of class, Of course it's all lower, but none the less it's her class.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 08:34 PM

Oh believe me I know all about Jessica's long list of dirty deeds!I completely agree about the young girl that got hurt! Lets just hope when all of this catches up with her- she's gone and out of everyone's hair for good!
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 08:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Old Broad
Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Oh I remember that....what ever happened to that guy she hurt???


He ended up ok. I remember when she was arrested for breaking into a bark in Fayette. She crapped on the bar and had to admitt that in court! She's got some class. I'll never forget that one.


Sure she has alot of class, Of course it's all lower, but none the less it's her class.


LMAO!
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 08:54 PM

Your right there isn't anything wrong with a night out now and then, but when it takes over your life and responsibilities then you've got a real problem! JM's grandparents provided almost everything for her. She quit modeling and cheerleading early on, I wanna say about age 12! I do believe that was the start of her rein of terror! So when she should have been home spending quality time with her teenage daughter, was she? JM is an adult now who obviously has no control, lets just hope they lock her up soon!
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 08:57 PM

It really is too bad because J is a very pretty woman....she is smart and could have actually done something good with her life. It is not her grandparents responsibility to raise her....that is why they are grandparents.....and why did they raise her? Oh that could be because mom couldn't! She might be raising "her" granddaughter.....but that is because no one else is there to do it.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 08:58 PM

The grandparents are elderly.....good God give them a break....they earned it!
Posted by: Buddy

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 09:26 PM

God only knows what J was exposed to by the mother, The mother was not any kind of a mother, I don't excuse the daughter for her problems, she is whacked, she just doesn't learn. Very sad, and J's life is full of victims.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Yetta Nother
It really is too bad because J is a very pretty woman....she is smart and could have actually done something good with her life.


I've always said that about her... what a waste.
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 10:14 PM

Pleeeaaase get over it ! this girl bother you people that
much ? Then you bash the mother as well.
ha hahaha puke.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/03/09 10:20 PM

We would rather bash you.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/04/09 06:00 AM

Getting to be a pretty easy target.

GTH, there convic, I wasn't really bashing her mother.

And if you've read through this entire thread you would've already figured out that YES, she bother's some of us that much! DUH!
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/04/09 04:49 PM

Well she used to be a very pretty girl, not sure when the last time you saw her was but she is looking fairly beat these days! She absolutely could have gone so far with her modeling career, oh well. Now she is just a worthless drunk among many other things!
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/04/09 04:55 PM

Well Convic for FYI, she has inturrupted many people's lives and some of us would actually like to see her get what she deserves. This girl has been getting away with this crap her whole life and its really starting to make some people angry! So get a clue before you post your comments! She is ruining the lives of teenage children now who unfortunately could end up paying for her mistakes if someone doesnt do something about her!
Posted by: Endoftheroad

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/04/09 04:58 PM

She won't be done until someone dies.
Posted by: queenbee

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/05/09 12:39 AM

Lastnight on the scanner Rachel vonBergen was in trouble in Geneva her and another girl were escorted out of a bar for trying to start a fight and the other girl (cook i think) was arrested for dis.con, later Rachel had the cops called on her again for causing a "ruckus" somewhere else. Yeak she is making her role model JM proud I'm sure.
Posted by: BERRY_BLUE

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/05/09 08:28 AM

I don't get on here much. I read alot of what every one has to say. I do Know that JM was in court last week and her case was Postponed again due to a report that was needed from probation. they offered her 9 mos. in jail. She was there with I beleive her Grand parents. if you ask me they looked very confused as to what was going on and the Grandmother could hardly walk. i felt very bad for them. and JM should be ashamed of her self for getting them involved.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/05/09 10:18 AM

It is very sad. I'm sure they are confused. They are in their 80's and she drags them to court with her. Thinking if they appear with her then the charges for the checks will get dismissed.

You know having the people who pressed charges against her on her side she may get away with it. She's trying to get them to say she had their permission to forge the checks.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/05/09 04:19 PM

She deserves more than 9 months for sure! She is such a piece of crap!
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/05/09 04:23 PM

Sad but deffinately true!
Posted by: queenbee

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/05/09 11:18 PM

Sorry it was Kennedy and they both ended up bn arrested.
Posted by: FireFighter18256

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/07/09 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Lori
Border City Fireman alert. I was just about run over by a guy in a Black 1500 pick up this morning. A gentleman in a blue pick up came sailing by(speeding) with his red light on then this guy in a black 1500 pickup decides to put his emergency light on - and not a blue or red light. These guys were in such a hurry the fire truck wasn't even out of the garage. They went sailing by the Fire station to get there first. The fire truck still had not made it out of the station by the time I got to the overpass. The cars in front of these two were going 45(heaven forbid the speed limit). I think they should get rid of the volunteer fire dept's and go to a county wide paid dept., Where only marked fire truck vehicles respond, as Auburn does. These volunteer guys are going to kill someone someday. Also, buy a blue light for your truck if you want someone to yeild for you. Tailgaiting isn't going to get you past someone. Unfortunately I think a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch as they say, or at least the perception we get from these stupid antics.


Was this a black sporty looking truck? with a light in the center of his window?
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 06/07/09 03:47 PM

Honey....wrong thread!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/22/09 03:58 PM

Finally.....Judge Mahoney sentenced this person to 9 months County jail. Thank you Judge Mahoney!
Posted by: X_Oop_A_Poopa_X

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 11:37 AM

Sweetness thanks for the info Road. I have a feelin this is why my old Jeep had a hit and run that was never settled back around feb.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 12:20 PM

Yeah, finally... How long has it been? Doesn't she still have other charges pending in Waterloo? I forgot my flowchart.

Still can't believe she walked on that assault charge.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 12:21 PM

It's people like this who give our county and state employees job security.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Yeah, finally... How long has it been? Doesn't she still have other charges pending in Waterloo? I forgot my flowchart.

Still can't believe she walked on that assault charge.


Yep according to my flow chart: she's facing forgery charges for stealing her Grandparents checkbook and writing over $5000.00 worth of checks AND violation of order of protection AND child endangerment....she was served papers in the morning a few weeks ago and that very afternoon violated the order.....some moxie hey??
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 02:25 PM

My Lord, there's more? I was just thinking about the check thing, which I thought was out of Waterloo court. I'm glad you got your chart handy! \:\) So was the 9 months for the violation of the conditional discharge or for the DWI or both?

Nine months will be a walk in the park for her. I mean the six
months she'll end up doing with good time. I need to find out who her lawyer is incase I ever need an attorney.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 05:48 PM

\:D Well finally that piece of trash is where she belongs! Now hopefully they do right on the other charges and send her straight to prison!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 06:20 PM

HAHA, with Swinehart being DA?? She's probably doing him little favors too.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 06:35 PM

IDK about that, he is good friends with a very old enemy of Jessica's so with any luck he will do whats right! Time will tell I guess. She is behind bars now and not out on the street corrupting young children(including her own). Everyone will be better off without her!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Foreal
Everyone will be better off without her!


Isn't that the truth!

Including her grandparents.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 06:48 PM


And her poor brother!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 06:54 PM

I think it's safe to say, her WHOLE family!
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:12 PM


Judge Mahoney... lol. She takes one person with i assume drugs and alcohol problem off the street and lets another off with a fine.. YEP that's justice !
My opinion of course .
Does jessica have a stalker ?
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:14 PM

Doubt it.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:16 PM

She is inconsistant at best I have to agree.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:20 PM

Stalker who the hell would wanna watch her? No stalking here just people who know she is where she deserves to be and its about time she got it. She has disruppted many lives and now for at least a little bit everyone can relaxe knowing she isnt on the street!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:25 PM

That's funny. When you first asked if she had a stalker, I thought you meant like you were available to stalk her. Go right ahead! You'll soon find out that's there's no such thing. There's no one stalking that one. She's pretty much W I D E open.
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:38 PM

Look.. It's old news, that's all.
My piont is the judges don't stick to the laws as they should.
There's a few other people that should be sent away but there still walking the streets.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:45 PM

See oops there is plenty I could correct about this post but I'm not \:\)
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:51 PM

Was wait'n for scottie to do my spelling check Della,
thank you!
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:52 PM

Nothing to thank me for I didn't do it.
Posted by: Foreal

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:57 PM

How would you consider it old news? Unfortunately for those of us who have had or know people who have had to deal with her in the past would not consider this anywhere near old!
Its been a long time coming! I do although agree that the judges should do a better job, Jessica has been walking the streets far to long! And I know there are still alot of people out there who should be where she is, everyone gets what they deserve in the end.
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 07:59 PM

Wow ! the forums are dead tonight.
Must be there all at happy hour .
Posted by: Convic

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 07/23/09 08:04 PM

O.K. ! ! time will take it's course,let's move on.
I'm not defending her,we all know what's what and what was.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 07:51 PM

Update: this person has just been convicted of Grand Larceny and Violation of an order of protection. Will be a guest of the Seneca County Correctional Facility until June 2010.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 08:05 PM

That's it? Well, as disappointed as I am...

It's better than nothing. Who's her lawyer?

I just would like to take note, just incase you know, I ever decided to be a..a...a....umm, whatever she is.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: oops12
That's it? Well, as disappointed as I am...

It's better than nothing. Who's her lawyer?

I just would like to take note, just incase you know, I ever decided to be a..a...a....umm, whatever she is.


. I think the ADA dropped the ball on this one, guess he had bigger fish to fry....message here: steal $5000.00 from your relatives AND break a order of protection = 6 months in jail. Better than nothing I guess
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 08:15 PM

Considering her background....

Where was the DA?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 08:20 PM

Probably tied up with the more important cases I guess
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 08:46 PM

He'll get her next time. We know they'll be a next time and a new DA.
Posted by: Yetta Nother

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/09/09 08:57 PM

Is she pregnant?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 04:57 AM

You know Yetta, that would be her MO wouldn't it. To my knowledge she's not, but she just might surprise everyone! She's lost custody of her 2 yr.old so..............

It just boggles the mind that she's only been sentenced to 6 months..yea she's doing time right now for another crime, and this newest stunt of hers will put her away until June, but as far as I'm concerned there should be a special place for someone who would make the decision to plot and steal and forge $5000.00 in personal checks from her own Grandparents. Seriously how low does your moral compass have to point to do something like that? Really......
Oh well, she'll be out next summer and then she can start the entire process again, maybe she'll pull something that will get her state time....
Posted by: Fud

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Update: this person has just been convicted of Grand Larceny and Violation of an order of protection. Will be a guest of the Seneca County Correctional Facility until June 2010.


Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
I think the ADA dropped the ball on this one, guess he had bigger fish to fry....message here: steal $5000.00 from your relatives AND break a order of protection = 6 months in jail. Better than nothing I guess



Wouldn't "until June 2010" be more than "six momths"?
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Yetta Nother
Is she pregnant?


Dear Lord, I hope not! She already has 2 children she can't take care of.

And I've heard before they only allow you 5 abortions, and I think she's hit the mark.
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 08:59 AM

Originally Posted By: oops12
Originally Posted By: Yetta Nother
Is she pregnant?


Dear Lord, I hope not! She already has 2 children she can't take care of.

And I've heard before they only allow you 5 abortions, and I think she's hit the mark.


Whoa, who is THEY? I don't think anyone can limit the number of procedures, although, medically it certainly must be damaging to the body. I will not choose sides on the issue (of abortion) however.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 09:08 AM

I heard that of a the place in Rochester that does them. But then again, there's always other places you can go and lie about how many times you've had it done.
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 09:15 AM

Originally Posted By: oops12
I heard that of a the place in Rochester that does them. But then again, there's always other places you can go and lie about how many times you've had it done.


What a shame really. But as you say, they can lie about their medical histories, seems rather dangerous.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/10/09 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Fudpucker
Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Update: this person has just been convicted of Grand Larceny and Violation of an order of protection. Will be a guest of the Seneca County Correctional Facility until June 2010.


Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
I think the ADA dropped the ball on this one, guess he had bigger fish to fry....message here: steal $5000.00 from your relatives AND break a order of protection = 6 months in jail. Better than nothing I guess



Wouldn't "until June 2010" be more than "six momths"?


She's in jail for another crime...the sentence ends in Jan. Then the new sentence for the new crime starts...I think they call it running consecutive...
Posted by: Morleysgirl

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/11/09 04:04 AM

I hope she is able to get sober and get some treatment for her obvious addiction problems while she is incarcerated. That being said, I know it will not change the caliber of person she is or give her better decision making tools but it is atleast a start. Maybe someone from AA could visit her and plant the seed of recovery. She could do with some therapy for sure.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 09/11/09 04:33 AM

Possible but not probable....as long as her grandparents are alive and continue to give her everything; she will NEVER have a chance at a normal life. I'm certain she has some mental issues...not an excuse mind you but she truly is a sociopath (sp sorry). She's what like 32-33? been in and out of jail several times, 2 prison terms, lost custody of her 2 year old, could care less about her 12 year old and totally believes it's everyones fault but hers when she gets into trouble. She's never held a real job, been a responsible adult...like I said possible but not probable.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/29/10 09:07 AM

Can't resist... Not bad.. out of jail on the 22nd, and already back in. Couldn't even make it a week!

The Waterloo Police Deparment arrested Jessica M. McMann age 32 of 1717 Burgess Road Waterloo, NY 13165 for 2 counts of Criminal Contempt in the
first degree and Harassment in the second degree. It is alleged that McMann violated a Stay Order of Protection on two separate dates. On the first date, McMann allegedly verbally harassed and threatened the protected party and on the second date McMann was allegedly on the property of the protected party both in violation of a valid of order of protection. McMann was arraigned in the Village of Waterloo Court before Judge Geary where she was committed to the Seneca County Correctional Facility on no bail. She is scheduled to re-appear in the Village of Waterloo Court on March 3, 2010 to answer the charges.
Posted by: Greymane

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/29/10 09:54 AM

When do you cross the line between "repeat offender" and "continuous offender"? \:D
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/29/10 10:05 AM

Gosh, fine line. That's a toughy...
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/29/10 10:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Greymane
When do you cross the line between "repeat offender" and "continuous offender"? \:D


Habitual offender.....mandatory sentencing.....shoe fits?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

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Posted by: Jake's Mom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/30/10 08:02 AM

A Hank Williams Jr. song comes to mind "Family Tradtion"..lol sorry now I won't get that song out of my head the rest of the day. My good God will they ever learn?
Posted by: queenbee

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/30/10 01:25 PM

I heard she had just gotten out and then read her name in the paper, wow maybe they should just leave her behind bars and stop spending money on prosecuting her.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/31/10 05:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Jake's Mom
A Hank Williams Jr. song comes to mind "Family Tradtion"..lol sorry now I won't get that song out of my head the rest of the day. My good God will they ever learn?



Ssd sad nasty business:this is her brother.




17-year-old arrested in Waterloo dometic dispute

FingerLakes1.com
1/31/10

On January 29, 2010 at 10:45 PM, the Waterloo Police Department arrested a 17 year old male from Waterloo for Endangering the Welfare of a Child and
Criminal Mischief 4th degree following a Domestic Dispute. The 17 year old allegedly broke a telephone in the presents of a 13-year-old child while in their home. The 17 year old then allegedly damaged dishes inside the residence and kicked out a front grill to a car that belonged to a family member. Following a short foot chase through the back yards of the
17 year old’s residence he was taken into custody by the Waterloo Police.

The 17 year old was arraigned in Waterloo Village Court and was sent to the Seneca County Jail on $2,000 cash bail $4,000 bail bond. An order of
protection was issued for the 13 year old and the owner of the car
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/31/10 07:23 AM

Originally Posted By: queenbee
I heard she had just gotten out and then read her name in the paper, wow maybe they should just leave her behind bars and stop spending money on prosecuting her.


Frontal lobotomy?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/31/10 07:30 AM

Seriously, medication and in patient rehab....she will NEVER have a normal life until those two things happen. Maddening, frustrating, but at the same time actually pretty sad for her kids and her family members who have delt with this insanity for YEARS!!!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/31/10 08:04 AM

It is sad. Sorry, she won't ever change. Medication and rehab seriously? It's not going to help. The law just doesn't apply to her. She has no regard for it or anyone for that matter. In her eyes she does no wrong and she's always the victim and it's always someone else's fault.
Posted by: enda

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 01/31/10 08:21 AM

well her brother will never learn either! He's in jail also for a domestic. I have always felt sorry for him but he sure makes it hard. He should of gotten some serious counceling esp. since his dad passed. Being Jeff's only heir this kid could of had the world by the you know what, but he sadly has thrown it all away. What good is it going to do him when he is spending his life behind bars?? His dad must be rolling in his grave. He loved this kid more than anything in the world, he was his whole life!
Posted by: Unique

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 04:33 PM

I worked with Jessica - remember her being pregnant while in jail. My that was a long time ago and she is still making headlines!
Posted by: gunga

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:32 PM

Jakes' mom:
Family Tradition! Man that's classic. The apples falling from their rotting trees...
Soooooooooooooooo very true.
Let's go some of you unemployed regular posters - WorkForce Development is calling your names> If you can type all day on this forum you can go out and get a JOB>
Sad thing is with many of these "clans" is their fear that their kids will get out of the shadows long enough to see what a wonderful world this is and when they do the scum lose they their meal tickets>
Takes a working village to raise productive kids...
Kids see the standards around them end up in trenches just like ma and pa kettle.
Flame away>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Tonight's dinner selection will be grilled rib eyes, dill potato salad, and fresh greens with a tasty gal for desert.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
Originally Posted By: Jake's Mom
A Hank Williams Jr. song comes to mind "Family Tradtion"..lol sorry now I won't get that song out of my head the rest of the day. My good God will they ever learn?



Ssd sad nasty business:this is her brother.




17-year-old arrested in Waterloo dometic dispute

FingerLakes1.com
1/31/10

On January 29, 2010 at 10:45 PM, the Waterloo Police Department arrested a 17 year old male from Waterloo for Endangering the Welfare of a Child and
Criminal Mischief 4th degree following a Domestic Dispute. The 17 year old allegedly broke a telephone in the presents of a 13-year-old child while in their home. The 17 year old then allegedly damaged dishes inside the residence and kicked out a front grill to a car that belonged to a family member. Following a short foot chase through the back yards of the
17 year old’s residence he was taken into custody by the Waterloo Police.

The 17 year old was arraigned in Waterloo Village Court and was sent to the Seneca County Jail on $2,000 cash bail $4,000 bail bond. An order of
protection was issued for the 13 year old and the owner of the car


I'm sorry I know this is off topic but where do they get these reporters?
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:38 PM

Hi Della....the story was in FL1 Seneca County section
Posted by: gunga

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:40 PM

The reporters come from the many rocks they live under.
Likes snakes you should be cautious not disturb them as they like to slither around all day and can bite if you reach into the wrong hole.
I suggest a schedule for posting that will encourage folks to get out and contribute. Even snakes have a purpose if used in an effective manner.
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:41 PM

I know but someone must have written it. Scroll down my problem was with the presents instead of presence.
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:42 PM

it's still in the Seneca county section if you want to look
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 05:44 PM

not sure who wrote it sorry...hey off topic again but how's that no smoking thing working ouot for you....wishing you the best!!!
Posted by: Della

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 06:15 PM

It's going great thanks!! My dentist will be happy!
Posted by: Roadtrip2nowhere

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 02/01/10 06:19 PM

lol I bet and if I was your hygienist I would be too LOL!!!
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/08/10 07:52 PM

Oh no,,, say it isn't so...

WATERLOO — Jessica
M. McMann, 32, of 56
Herbert St., Geneva, was
arrested Thursday for
first-degree criminal contempt.
State Police at Waterloo
charged McMann with
having contact with a person
in the village of
Waterloo Jan. 22 for whom
there is a stay away order
of protection in place.
She was arraigned and
sent to the Seneca County
Correctional Facility without
bail to answer the
charge March 17 in
Waterloo village court.




Would that be ANOTHER felony?

I think the toilet must be clogged!
Posted by: queenbee

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/08/10 10:26 PM

I was wondering who would post that first.LOL Saw it in the paper on Sunday. She have a one way ticket to Bedford yet? Wow.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 07:47 AM

I guess that will all depend on the new DA and how much "info" she can give him!
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 07:55 AM

Seriously. This thread keeps re-appearing because she keeps getting arrested.
When do you say when and just stick her butt in prison a while? I don't think that's the true answer here she needs mental work but maybe she can get it in prison. I feel for her kids.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 08:06 AM

One has to have some kind of mental problem to have utter disregard for the law. She's gotten away with so much that she doesn't seem the law applies to her. I don't see prison ever helping this women, but atleast she'll be off the streets and not a danger to her family or society.
Posted by: RedGreen

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 08:11 AM

Before I moved she was my next door neighbor for a period on Bridge Street. I saw the lifestyle, I saw the way things happenened in her household.
She doesn't give a sh^T except living in the moment.
Posted by: Senecamom

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 08:12 AM

Amazing. She keeps breaking the same laws over and over....is their over crowding or overflow problem with our jails? Why oh why is she continually on the street? How many times in the last 12 months has she been arrested? Those poor kids.
Posted by: oops12

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 08:19 AM

I feel sorry for her kids too. It's sad to say but they are sooo much better off without her considering what she exposes them too when she's out. How and why any family court judge would allow visitation is beyond me.

You need a flowchart to count the amount of arrests she's had. Not just the past year but I'm curious how many times in her entire life she's been arrested?? Good thing criminal records are computerized now, she'd have a whole filing cabinet for her record.
Posted by: Old Broad

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
NO WAY...OMG now I HAVE heard it all

you just can't fix crazy.. wow, yikes and holy cow


As Silver would say,"You can't fix stupid" That girl just did not know when she had it made. But then on the other hand she just needed a warm bed and 3 square.
Posted by: Old Broad

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Roadtrip2nowhere
She was in court for stealing checks from her grandparents on Tuesday. The arrest came from ANOTHER case where she damaged property and was supposed to stay out of trouble....the Aggravated DWI arrest violated the agreement and she was arrested right there in court Tuesday


Why was she even out of prison?????
Posted by: Old Broad

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/09/10 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: HeavenlyPlaces
I don't think that's at all what I'm implying here. What I think is disgusting is how DELIGHTED you are with it. You feel no compassion for her kids, her family...or even, dare I suggest...HER. I repeat...not a single one of us starts out WANTING to be what she has apparently become, but it happens and we may not ever know WHY and we may abhor her actions but I don't think we should take away her humanity.


She is an adult, unless 31 yrs is not considered an adult, she did in fact make bad choices, but after the first time she was in court, she could have changed her life style. But did she? no she did not and she is the only one that can do that. The children did not ask for this, but they to are being punised.Shame on their mother. But from what I have been reading, she has no shame. So the children are better off without her and yes they love her and they always will. She does not deserve their love.
Posted by: ibepokenmore

Re: Violation of a Conditional Discharge arrest in SF - 03/11/10 02:13 PM

A M E N to old broad.